>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland
>Sent: 21 May 2007 13:58
>To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>Subject: Re: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed?
>
>They don't show the same for me. Which is odd.
>
>I've done a tracert - and I (through Demon) am apparently 
>connecting to the NYC boxes, which is a little peculiar.

hm, that may be your problem. Could you post your traceroute for
news.bbc.co.uk and newsrss.bbc.co.uk?

In our content production system, the RSS page and the HTML page
templates both order the stories in the same editorially-defined order.

There is sometimes a lag in publishing between our London servers and
our New York servers - New York can be a little behind. If you are
requesting from Demon you should be sent to the London servers, not New
York.

Here's my route from an easynet-hosted box:

$ traceroute newsrss.bbc.co.uk
traceroute to newsrss.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.33), 64 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  fa2-0.pepo.router.flirble.org (194.70.3.1)  1.092 ms  1.271 ms
1.158 ms
 2  fa5-0-103.cr1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.134.0.1)  0.865 ms  0.684 ms
0.574                                     ms
 3  ge0-2-0-0.br1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.0.3)  0.868 ms  0.990 ms
0.868                                     ms
 4  ge0-1-0.er4.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.12.45)  0.721 ms  0.852 ms
1.310                                     ms
 5  ge1-0-0.er3.tclon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.146)  2.496 ms  0.844 ms
0.866 m                                    s
 6  ge0-0-0.er3.thlon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.150)  1.014 ms  1.721 ms
1.601 m                                    s
 7  ip-217-204-60-121.easynet.co.uk (217.204.60.121)  1.014 ms  0.989 ms
1.305                                     ms
 8  bbc-gw0-easynet.prt0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (217.204.61.146)  2.185 ms
1.211 ms  1                                    .634 ms
 9  212.58.238.133 (212.58.238.133)  1.301 ms  1.437 ms  1.754 ms
10  newslb13.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.33)  1.744 ms  1.773 ms  1.575
ms

$ traceroute news.bbc.co.uk
traceroute to newswww.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.20), 64 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  fa2-0.pepo.router.flirble.org (194.70.3.1)  1.153 ms  1.069 ms
0.863 ms
 2  fa5-0-103.cr1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.134.0.1)  0.718 ms  0.555 ms
0.574 ms
 3  ge0-2-0-0.br1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.0.3)  1.015 ms  1.594 ms
1.138 ms
 4  ge0-1-0.er4.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.12.45)  0.719 ms  0.850 ms
1.022 ms
 5  ge1-0-0.er3.tclon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.146)  1.448 ms  1.285 ms
0.739 ms
 6  ge0-0-0.er3.thlon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.150)  1.439 ms  0.851 ms
1.015 ms
 7  ip-217-204-60-225.easynet.co.uk (217.204.60.225)  1.454 ms  1.147 ms
1.303 ms
 8  bbc-gw0-easynet.prt0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (217.204.61.146)  143.265 ms
2.156 ms  5.292 ms
 9  212.58.238.133 (212.58.238.133)  1.815 ms  1.585 ms  2.337 ms
10  newslb11.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.20)  2.188 ms  2.614 ms  1.606
ms


Does iGoogle support RSS simple list extensions
http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/articles/SimpleListExtensionsExplained.asp
x? We should use that to explicitly state the running order.

Kevin.

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