[Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-17 Thread Jaime Ventura
Hello.
   I need to backup some directories on windows client used by a 
user AA.
   The problem is that the user AA have some confidential files 
which cant be accessible by bacula.
   I thought I could create a user BB having permissions to access 
specific directories(the ones that should by backed up) and having 
bacula-fd running as  user BB. The problem with this solution is that 
bacula-fd runnig as BB cant  have access to user AA desktop, and so i 
cant get the icon on AA' systray.
How can I solve this?
   As far as i can see, there isn't a bacula monitor for Windows?
   Is there any client side ACL's.
   Thanks for you help
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Re: [Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-17 Thread Jaime Ventura
Hi Bill,
thank you for your reply.
I know that if install the windows client using default options, it 
will run as a service using the system user.
Since bacula-fd is running using the system user, it will be able 
to access every file on the pc, rigth?
I need to limit the bacula-fd to access to just a few files ( the 
ones I need to backup). The thing is, the pc user (AAA in my previous 
email) have personal information on it and he doesn't want bacula to 
able to access it.
So I thought  of running bacula-fd as a BBB user having permissions 
to access only files I need to backup. That way, bacula-fd doesnt have 
access to all files on the system, but just the ones I need to backup.
This should work just fine.
But, having bacula-fd running as BBB user, it wont have permissions 
to put the icon tray on the AAA systemTray when he is logged in.
I could solve this problem if bacula had a bacula-monitor for 
windows, which  it does not.
So, i don't really know how to solve this :(
Once again, thanks



 


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Bill Moran wrote:
 In response to Jaime Ventura [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Hello.
I need to backup some directories on windows client used by a 
 user AA.
The problem is that the user AA have some confidential files 
 which cant be accessible by bacula.
I thought I could create a user BB having permissions to access 
 specific directories(the ones that should by backed up) and having 
 bacula-fd running as  user BB. The problem with this solution is that 
 bacula-fd runnig as BB cant  have access to user AA desktop, and so i 
 cant get the icon on AA' systray.
 How can I solve this?
As far as i can see, there isn't a bacula monitor for Windows?
Is there any client side ACL's.
Thanks for you help
 

 Are you sure?  Have you tried?

 When I installed Bacula on W$ machines, it runs as some meta-user that
 has read rights to the entire system.  Are you doing some sort of
 custom install?  Why not just use the meta-user built into Windows?

   

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Re: [Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-17 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 13:28, Jaime Ventura wrote:
 Hello.
I need to backup some directories on windows client used by a 
 user AA.
The problem is that the user AA have some confidential files 
 which cant be accessible by bacula.
I thought I could create a user BB having permissions to access 
 specific directories(the ones that should by backed up) and having 
 bacula-fd running as  user BB. The problem with this solution is that 
 bacula-fd runnig as BB cant  have access to user AA desktop, and so i 
 cant get the icon on AA' systray.
 How can I solve this?
As far as i can see, there isn't a bacula monitor for Windows?
Is there any client side ACL's.
Thanks for you help

I recently added a section to the Win32 chapter of the online development 
manual (1.39.28) that explain how to do this.  It takes the point of view 
that there should be no completely confidential files, so if this is a 
requirement, you should pay close attention to the suggested changes so that 
they do not comprise any specific security you want.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-17 Thread Jaime Ventura
Kern,
thank you very much for your reply.
I will look at it carefully,
Once again, thanks



 


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Kern Sibbald wrote:
 On Tuesday 14 November 2006 13:28, Jaime Ventura wrote:
   
 Hello.
I need to backup some directories on windows client used by a 
 user AA.
The problem is that the user AA have some confidential files 
 which cant be accessible by bacula.
I thought I could create a user BB having permissions to access 
 specific directories(the ones that should by backed up) and having 
 bacula-fd running as  user BB. The problem with this solution is that 
 bacula-fd runnig as BB cant  have access to user AA desktop, and so i 
 cant get the icon on AA' systray.
 How can I solve this?
As far as i can see, there isn't a bacula monitor for Windows?
Is there any client side ACL's.
Thanks for you help
 

 I recently added a section to the Win32 chapter of the online development 
 manual (1.39.28) that explain how to do this.  It takes the point of view 
 that there should be no completely confidential files, so if this is a 
 requirement, you should pay close attention to the suggested changes so that 
 they do not comprise any specific security you want.

   
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Re: [Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-17 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Jaime Ventura [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Bill,
 thank you for your reply.
 I know that if install the windows client using default options, it 
 will run as a service using the system user.
 Since bacula-fd is running using the system user, it will be able 
 to access every file on the pc, rigth?
 I need to limit the bacula-fd to access to just a few files ( the 
 ones I need to backup). The thing is, the pc user (AAA in my previous 
 email) have personal information on it and he doesn't want bacula to 
 able to access it.
 So I thought  of running bacula-fd as a BBB user having permissions 
 to access only files I need to backup. That way, bacula-fd doesnt have 
 access to all files on the system, but just the ones I need to backup.
 This should work just fine.
 But, having bacula-fd running as BBB user, it wont have permissions 
 to put the icon tray on the AAA systemTray when he is logged in.
 I could solve this problem if bacula had a bacula-monitor for 
 windows, which  it does not.
 So, i don't really know how to solve this :(
 Once again, thanks

I have a feeling that you're on the wrong road for the wrong reasons.

First, you need to clearly establish the status of those files:
1) Are they important data?
2) Are they confidential data?

If the answer to #1 is yes, then you need to back them up.

It sounds to me that the answer to #2 is yes and you're using that as
a reason _not_ to back the data up, which is a _VERY_ bad idea.

I could go on and on about foolish assumptions such as the assumption
that your Windows client is more secure than the Bacula server ...

However, I'll cut to the chase:

1) If the data is just personal, then simply exclude those files from
   the backup fileset using a wildcard if necessary.
2) If the data is confidential, then you're putting the cart before the
   horse by trying to teach bacula not to back it up.  Instead, use some
   sort of file-level encryption, such as one of pgp's tools.  Then, you
   can even back up the encrypted files if it makes sense to do so,
   without sacrificing their confidentiality.

The approach you're taking is like trying to fix a flat tire by changing
the spark plugs.

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Collaborative Fusion Inc.



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[Bacula-users] Preventing windows bacula-fd from accessing some files

2006-11-14 Thread Jaime Ventura











Hello.
   I need to backup some directories on windows client used by a
user AA.
   The problem is that the user AA have some confidential files
which cant be accessible by bacula.
   I thought I could create a user BB having permissions to access
specific directories(the ones that should by backed up) and having
bacula-fd running as  user BB. The problem with this solution is that
bacula-fd runnig as BB cant  have access to user AA desktop, and so i
cant get the icon on AA' systray.
How can I solve this?
   As far as i can see, there isn't a bacula monitor for Windows?
   Is there any client side ACL's.
   Thanks for you help


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