Re: Clipping selection with multiple lines - add markdown quote?

[Rich Siegel]

On 22 May 2024, at 11:03, Craig Heilman wrote:

> I’m trying to configure a clipping to add the markdown quote “> “ to the 
> selection whether the selection is a single line or multiple lines.
>
> Examples:
>
> Single line selection
>
> becomes
>
>> Single line selection
>
> Selection line 1
> Selection line 2
> Selection line 3
>
> becomes
>
>> Selection line 1
>> Selection line 2
>> Selection line 3
>
> Is this possible with a clipping or do I need to use something like 
> Prefix/Suffix Lines instead?

Text => Increase Quote Level will probably do what you need.

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.1

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
15.1.

This is a free update for anyone using BBEdit 15 (as well as for anyone using 
any previous BBEdit version in Free Mode), and includes a number of feature 
additions, refinements to existing features, and fixes for reported issues.

Notable in this update:

*   AI chat worksheets gain support for Claude and Ollama;

*   A "Decompose Unicode" text transformation;

*   Various interface refinements;

*   Fixes for reported issues.

A complete digest of the changes since 15.0.3 is available here:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/notes-15.1.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 15 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

<https://www.barebones.com/store/bbedit_upgrades.html> .

BBEdit 15 is also available in the Mac App Store. If you have an active 
subscription, all of BBEdit 15.1's advanced features are active immediately: no 
additional purchase is required.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 <https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/download.html>

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Re: Issue with Language Server Installation - startup

[Rich Siegel]

On 8 May 2024, at 14:57, Brian Bezanson wrote:

> I followed the instructions here: Bare Bones Software | Language Server
> Protocol Support in BBEdit
> <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html> and installed via
> npm the vscode-json-languageserver.
>
> In my terminal I can type `vscode-json-languageserver` and it executes -
> wants an additional command - but the point is that it is in my $PATH and
> can be executed.
>
> However, when I run BBEdit 15.0.3 and look at the log, I see
>
> 
> 2024-05-08 13:22:28.828: Application startup: 15.0.3 (15A102)
> 2024-05-08 13:22:28.828: macOS version 14.4.1 (23E224)
> 2024-05-08 13:22:28.828: A language server was configured, but the server
> executable (vscode-json-languageserver) was not found.

This sounds like an incorrect $PATH: 
<https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html#trouble>.

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Re: Grep Find and Replace Issue

[Rich Siegel]

On 8 May 2024, at 6:01, Marcus Abundis wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I am new to BBEdit (trying it out) and I have a problem in using the
> standard “Find and Replace” window in BBEdit. Only the “Grep” and “Show
> matches” boxes checked in that window (no other boxes checked), and the
> situation unfolds as follows:
>
> TARGET STRING/FIELD: “ 29.12.2023, 10:23, ”
> — Target values, held in varied records, with varied fields for each
> record, all in one .CSV file.
>
> FIND STRING: “ \d\d\.\d\d\.\d\d\d\d, \d\d:\d\d, ”
> — This Find String works exactly as I wish, no problems.
>
> REPLACE STRING: “;\d\d\.\d\d\.\d\d\d\d, \d\d:\d\d, ”
> — This Replace String does NOT work as desired. I want to replace the
> leading “ ” space with a “;” while RETAINING all original digital values.

Chapter 8 of the user manual is an excellent reference to how Grep works (in 
BBEdit and in general), and in particular the section on "Writing Replacement 
Patterns" beginning on page 212 is relevant to your interests.

To summarize: you need to specify in your original pattern which part(s) it you 
want to use in the replacement, by putting parentheses around them. In the 
replacement pattern, you can make reference to those subpatterns to construct 
the replacement text.

The user manual is available via the Help menu.

The Pattern Playground (on the Search menu) is handy for exploring match and 
replace behavior, as well.

Enjoy,

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.1 (15B9) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

 any unexpected behavior changes
immediately to Tech Support (supp...@barebones.com).

*   [477600] Fixed bug in which "Update Site" on a project might
generate incorrect results for site-relative placeholders (such
as `REAL_URL`) when multiple projects were open and the affected
files were present in more than one of the open projects.

*   Fixed misfeature in which PHP superglobal references were
colored as predefined symbols, which prevented double-click
variable selection from working for them.

*   [479230] Fixed crash at startup which would occur with certain
malformations in `~/.zshrc`.

*   Fixed misplacement of the key binding points for the legacy
"Insert" menu commands in the Menus & Shortcuts preferences.
(They're under "Miscellaneous" but were buried under an
irrelevant heading.)

*   Changes to improve performance when iterating large directories
in disk browsers and project window folder listings.

*   Made some performance improvements to the "is a Zip archive" and
"is a tarball" tests.

*   Prompts sent to the chat API are now stored in the history only
*after* the API responds affirmatively. This ensures API behavior
correctness in the wake of errors (timeouts, account limits, or
otherwise) and fixes a problem in which Claude worksheets would
become inoperative after errors.

*   Restored the ability to configure keyboard equivalents for
Insert Time Stamp (short and long) and Insert Page Break that was
lost in rearchitecture with 15.0.

*   Fixed a typo in an error message that might occur while trying
to install the command line tools.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/BBSW-download/BBEdit-15.1_15B9.dmg

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Re: Count characters with regex?

[Rich Siegel]

On 22 Apr 2024, at 13:31, Doug Pinkerton wrote:

> I would like to create a text factory to change each instance of
>
> # This is a level 1 heading
> to
> This is a level 1 heading
> =
>
> And I would like to change each instance of
>
> ## This is a level 2 heading
> to
> This is a level 2 heading
> -

Grep is not really the right tool for this sort of transformation, but it could 
certainly be scripted.

I asked ChatGPT, which said:

===

Unfortunately, PCRE (Perl Compatible Regular Expressions) does not support
variable-length replacement strings based on the length of the matched string.
This is because regular expressions are designed for pattern matching, not for
complex string manipulation.

However, you can achieve this in a programming language that supports regular
expressions and string manipulation. Here's an example in Python:

```python
import re

def replace_headings(text):
def repl(match):
heading = match.group(1)
level = len(match.group(2))
return heading + '\n' + ('=' if level == 1 else '-') * len(heading)

return re.sub(r'^(#{1,2}) (.*)$', repl, text, flags=re.MULTILINE)

text = """
# This is a level 1 heading

## This is a level 2 heading
"""

print(replace_headings(text))
```

This script defines a function `replace_headings` that takes a string of text
and returns a new string with the headings replaced. The `re.sub` function is
used to search for headings and replace them. The replacement function `repl` is
called for each match, and it generates a string of equals or hyphens of the
same length as the heading. The `flags=re.MULTILINE` argument makes the `^` and
`$` anchors match the start and end of each line, not just the start and end of
the whole string.

===

So you could try something like that.

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Re: Run command for Objective-C

[Rich Siegel]

On 15 Apr 2024, at 14:48, 'Derek Yates' via BBEdit Talk wrote:

> The following seems to work:
> [...]

Glad to hear you found a working solution.

You might find BBEdit's support for the Language Server Protocol useful: 
https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html

Additionally, piping the output of the `clang` command through `bbresults` 
might provide a nicer experience for compile errors (if you aren't using 
clangd).

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Re: Trimming lines with a filter

[Rich Siegel]

On 10 Apr 2024, at 10:49, Christopher Finazzo wrote:

> A number of my projects standardize on 80 characters per line. I have tried
> to use Process Lines to simplify this process:
>
> 1) Text > Process Lines Containing...
> 2) Check the Grep checkbox
> 3) Use the following pattern to target all lines with 80 or more characters:
>
> .{{0,79}}
>
> I've done it enough times that it would be useful to have this run as a
> filter so that I don't need to invoke it manually each time.

You could create a text factory with a single "Process Lines Containing" step, 
and then put that in BBEdit's "Text Filters" support folder; seems like that 
would do the job. (You can shorten the path by using "Apply Text Transform" to 
test the operation, then employ the "Save as Text Factory" button.)

Enjoy,

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Re: Search results in split view

[Rich Siegel]

On 9 Apr 2024, at 13:35, Ray Hamel wrote:

> Is it possible to produce the search results when using find all, in the
> same window but in a lower pane (instead of opening the search results in a
> new window)?
>
> Then I can click on each line in the lower results pane, and it would take
> me to the line of the text or code.

Please see this thread: <https://groups.google.com/g/bbedit/c/ZG2NyV46f0s>.

:-),

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.3

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
15.0.3. This is a free update for anyone using BBEdit 15, and includes a number 
of fixes for reported issues, as well as all the new features and refinements 
previously released as part of the BBEdit 15 upgrade.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/notes-15.0.3.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 15 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

<https://www.barebones.com/store/bbedit_upgrades.html> .

If you purchased a BBEdit 14 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after July 1, 2023, you have been sent a free license upgrade, 
to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive this, 
please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 <https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/download.html>

Enjoy,

R.

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Re: "No Editor" appears while closing documents

[Rich Siegel]

On 7 Apr 2024, at 8:36, James Greenwood wrote:

> Until a few months ago, it was a straightforward process to close all
> BBEdit documents and save any unsaved changes. I repeatedly pressed
> Command-W, and if the next document had no unsaved changes then it would
> simply close, and if it had unsaved changes then BBEdit asked me if I
> wanted to save them. Eventually, all the documents would close and BBEdit
> would have zero documents open.
>
> Starting a few months ago, this changed.

This sounds like a good question for Tech Support. :-)

For future reference: it's best to ask immediately when you have a question; 
there's no particular reason to wait months if you think that something is 
misbehaving.

Also: Close All (Command-Option-W, by default) might be worth a look.

R.

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Re: Search Results inline

[Rich Siegel]

On 25 Mar 2024, at 23:53, Ray Hamel wrote:

> Is it possible to have BBEdit display the search results in the same window
> in a lower pane or split pane?  I don't want the results to open into a new
> seperate window.   As I click in the results windows in the lower pane, it
> takes me to the line or row from my Grep or search terms. Use case:
>> Open Find . Enter your search term or grep
>> Click Find All, (opens a new window)

It's not possible to list the results in the original window; but since Search 
Results windows present an editable view (just like the original), there's not 
really a functional difference, only a different presentation from what you 
just described.

You could use "Quick Find" to visualize and navigate through the results 
in-window, as well.

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.2 (15A93) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

*   Fixed bug in which manual path entry in the working copy chooser
(for git and svn) didn't actually update the selected path.

*   If an error occurs while fetching Subversion revisions for the
menu in the navigation bar, avoid bringing up the Subversion log
at that point (which only interrupts the process and misdirects
the comparison if an item gets chosen).

*   Fixed a crash which would occur when certain file system changes
took place while a disk browser was open and displaying items
from the affected directory(ies).

*   Fixed -50 error which would occur when using the "Append to
BBEdit Scratchpad" service and the application was not running,
*and* the "Scratchpad" document was the only document left open
when previously quitting the application.

*   Corrected syntax checker reporting for use of `in` attribute in
HTML5 documents.

*   Fixed crash which would occur when using Ctl-C with Emacs
keyboard emulation *and* the status window enabled.

*   Made a change to prevent misbehavior when enumerating a project
and the same directory appeared multiple times at the top level.

*   AX: VO-M works when focus is in the sidebar, to open the
contextual menu.

*   Fixed error reported when trying to run a text factory
containing a "Normalize Spaces" step.

*   Fixed bug in which Markdown images and links with empty
descriptions (or alt text) weren't colored.

*   Fixed crash which would occur when using the Functions palette
with certain languages, *and* a callout appeared at the very
beginning of the file.

*   Fixed bug in which leaving the path field blank when connecting
in an FTP/SFTP panel would cause BBEdit to attempt to change the
working directory to "/", rather than the default login directory
(whether $HOME or otherwise).

*   Fixed bug in which changing the media type setting in a live
preview window didn't tell the web view, so there was no visible
difference in documents with applicable `@media` CSS directives.

*   Fixed bug in which the commands after "Lorem Ipsum" on the
Edit/Insert menu weren't available in Free Mode.

*   Added a couple of missing entries to the default format profile;
and when pretty printing an HTML5 file, any elements missing from
the profile are treated similarly to ``.

*   Made a change so that "endless" Ruby methods don't confuse the
function scanner.

*   Fixed garbage text that would sometimes occur when using Replace
All via AppleScript on a subset of the document's text.

*   Fixed a memory leak when parsing Markdown documentation returned
by language servers for display in the completion and
parameter/symbol help panels.

*   Fixed bug in which choosing "Other" from the text encoding menu
in the status bar would present the encoding panel twice.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/BBSW-download/BBEdit-15.0.2_15A93.dmg

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Re: Is it possible to reposition the sidebar back to the right side of screen?

[Rich Siegel]

On 12 Mar 2024, at 11:47, NW wrote:

> Hello Rich,
>
> Thank you for your reply. I understand your point about the document list
> and why it was changed. I preferred the original way because (for me) it
> works better on a smaller screen and I have to keep repositioning my
> sight-line as I'm expecting the line numbers and text to start from the
> extreme left of the screen, as with a command line text editor. It is also
> easier to visually "ignore" the document list if it's over to the
> right-hand side so I don't get distracted by it.

You might find it useful to simply hide the sidebar all the time, and use the 
popup menu in the navigation bar to change documents (or "Previous 
Document/Next Document", or select files by name using "Commands" on the Go 
menu).

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Re: Is it possible to reposition the sidebar back to the right side of screen?

[Rich Siegel]

On 12 Mar 2024, at 10:55, NW wrote:

> As per my topic, is it possible to change the sidebar position to the
> right-hand side of the screen, as per earlier versions?

The left-hand document list was introduced in BBEdit 10.0 (July, 2011), and it 
is fixed in the left side of the window. (This is a longstanding practice on 
macOS.)

> Also, is it possible to have the synchro scrolling disabled by default?

If you turn off Synchro Scrolling in the Differences window and then use "Save 
Default Differences Window" from the Window menu, this (and other properties) 
will apply to subsequently created differences window.

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Re: Multiple “Replace All” with a single keystroke?

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On 9 Mar 2024, at 18:58, Charles Meyerson wrote:

> I’m a longtime (decades!) user of and fan of BBedit who, somewhat stupidly,
> has never explored the potential of Text Factories or Text Transformations
> and so must ask an embarrassing question:
>
> I have a series of (6) “*Replace All”* commands I perform daily, in
> sequence in BBedit, and it’s only just now occurred to me that I might
> perform all of these with a single keystroke (or a single click). But the
> interface for doing so perplexes me.

A Text Factory would be an appropriate solution here. You can place the 
finished factory in your Text Filters folder (available via the Folders submenu 
on the BBEdit application menu), at which point it's available under the "Apply 
Text Filter" submenu of the Text menu, and choosing it will process the active 
document.

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Re: shortcut for cutting a line?

[Rich Siegel]

On 6 Mar 2024, at 14:23, Mark C. wrote:

> Over the years I have grown used to using ctrl-k to cut a line of text in
> the Pico editor. Is there an equivalenk shortcut for BBedit? Or is there a
> way I can combine [command-shift-right arrow] + [command x]

Ctl-K works as well, if you have Emacs keyboard emulation turned on in the 
Keyboard preferences. Or "Cut Line" (factory default Cmd-ctl-X) on the Edit 
menu, as well.

> Also, after years of using the free version I finally had work buy me the
> full license.

Thanks for your support. :-)

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Re: Function list shows hashtags in additon to headings

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On 1 Mar 2024, at 16:27, Evan wrote:

> I apologize if I'm using the wrong terminology here. I'm not a programmer,
> and I use BBEdit almost solely as a Markdown text editor, and like to jump
> between Markdown headings using the Functions list at the top right of the
> editor window. When typing in Markdown, I often use hashtags, since I am
> transferring text from BBEdit over to a system where hashtags are used
> extensively. For example, I might enter "#client Spoke to John Doe."
>
> The Functions list shows both hashtags and the Markdown headings. Is there
> a way to require a space after the "#" for the item to show up in the
> functions list, so that only Markdown headings are used?

BBEdit 15 behaves as you describe, at least in my testing. :-) What version are 
you currently running?

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Re: Run command and Python virtual environments

[Rich Siegel]

On 1 Mar 2024, at 9:11, Benjamin Davidson wrote:

> [Update] I can make this work by including the path to my virtual
> environments python installation in the shebang line:
>
> ie:
>
> #!/Users/me/dev/bbedit_test/venv/bin/python
>
> import requests
> ...
>
> But this still leaves me wondering what the setting, "Always use python
> when a virtual environment is active" is supposed to do.

Ordinarily, when using "Run" from the #! menu, BBEdit will figure out whether 
to use `python` or `python3` to run Python scripts which don't have a !# line.

If "Always use “python” when a virtual environment is active" is turned on, 
*and* a Conda virtual environment is selected in the #! menu, then BBEdit will 
always run `python` and will not try to run `python3`.

Ordinarily, a #! line of "#!/usr/bin/env python" is enough, provided that your 
external Unix environment has $PATH set up correctly.

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.2 (15A85) pre-release

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selected path.

*   [477007] If an error occurs while fetching Subversion revisions
for the menu in the navigation bar, avoid bringing up the
Subversion log at that point (which only interrupts the process
and misdirects the comparison if an item gets chosen).

*   [476855] Fixed a crash which would occur when certain file
system changes took place while a disk browser was open and
displaying items from the affected directory(ies).

*   [476564] Fixed -50 error which would occur when using the
"Append to BBEdit Scratchpad" service and the application was not
running, *and* the "Scratchpad" document was the only document
left open when previously quitting the application.

*   [477086] Corrected syntax checker reporting for use of `in`
attribute in HTML5 documents.

*   [477162] Fixed crash which would occur when using Ctl-C with
Emacs keyboard emulation *and* the status window enabled.

*   Made a change to prevent misbehavior when enumerating a project
and the same directory appeared multiple times at the top level.

*   [477212] AX: VO-M works when focus is in the sidebar, to open
the contextual menu.

*   [477230] Fixed error reported when trying to run a text factory
containing a "Normalize Spaces" step.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:

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Re: finding a notebook - and sorry for such a newbie question

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Feb 2024, at 23:17, Johnny Ragadoo wrote:

> I've searched Google and the documentation. I've been using BBEdit for a
> while, and I can't believe I'm not finding this answer myself.
>
> I like to use notebooks for writing copy for Affinity Publisher projects.
>
> Today I created a new notebook and ended up not being able to find it on my
> Mac. I can open it from the recents list, but spotlight, the Finder search,
> and command line mdfind can't find it on my Mac.
>
> The View->Show in Finder is grayed out. I think the notebook must be in
> some internal place, but I'd like to save it as a separate file in a place
> of my choosing.
>
> Any idea how to find where my notebook file ended up?

The conventional Command-click in the title bar should do.

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Re: Bug in Markdown coloring

[Rich Siegel]

On 8 Feb 2024, at 16:12, KevinC wrote:


> I have a language-specific color scheme configured for Markdown. However,
> it looks like the color value specified in it for
> com.barebones.bblm.markdown.Emph is not applied when the emphasis occurs in
> a list environment. Instead, the color value specified for it in the
> globally configured color scheme is use.

This might be a support question, in which case the advice in the footer 
applies.

Are you using one of the factory supplied color schemes; or did you make a 
custom one by hand?

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Re: Solargraph language server broken since BBEdit 15

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On 6 Feb 2024, at 14:57, Esther Weidauer wrote:

> Thank you, adding that advanced configuration JSON solved it. Saved my day
> :)

Fantastic, glad to hear it. :-)

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Re: Solargraph language server broken since BBEdit 15

[Rich Siegel]

On 6 Feb 2024, at 14:41, Esther Weidauer wrote:

> I did some more testing and looked at the logs. It seems completion
> suggestions work, but linting doesn't (but it does in SublimeText). It
> looks like Solargraph doesn't report any "codeActionProvider" capabilities
> when launched from BBEdit:
> [...]
> "clients": {
> "ruby": {
> "enabled": true,
> "command": ["solargraph", "stdio"],
> "selector": "source.ruby | text.html.ruby",
> "initializationOptions": {
> "diagnostics": true
> }
> }
>   },
>
> it has this "diagnostics: true" option and that does exactly what I want,
> but I don't know how that is sent to Solargraph or what the equivalent in
> BBEdit would be

It's a little suprising that Solargraph doesn't enable diagnostics by default, 
and perhaps it's worth the time to file an issue about that.

Meanwhile, the "Advanced Configuration Topics" section of BBEdit's LSP notes 
should get you going in the right direction: 
<https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html#advanced>.

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Re: Solargraph language server broken since BBEdit 15

[Rich Siegel]

On 6 Feb 2024, at 13:56, Esther Weidauer wrote:

> Hi,
>
>> What specific version of BBEdit are you currently running?
>
> I'm running 15.0.1 now but that didn't fix the issue. I also tried the
> latest 14.x version and it seems broken there too so I don't actually know
> what broke it.

Could be some environmental thing, assuming you've been using the same 
Solargraph version all along.

> I tried getting verbose logs but I don't know where I can see those. Does
> BBEdit show those somewhere?

The "Logs" command on the Folders submenu of the BBEdit application menu will 
open the appropriate Finder window. The LSP logs can be found in there.

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Re: Solargraph language server broken since BBEdit 15

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Hello,

On 6 Feb 2024, at 7:21, Esther Weidauer wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> since upgrading to BBEdit 15 the integration with Solargraph (language
> server for Ruby) doesn't seem to work anymore. Other language servers I use
> work fine.
>
> I already followed the steps outlined
> here: https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html#trouble but
> no luck so far.

What specific version of BBEdit are you currently running?

15.0.1 had a change that might help:

*   Made a change to LSP workspace detection so that it never
returns the current user's home directory as a workspace root.
(Most servers can't handle this, and they try to scan the entire
home directory, which in turn trips file access alarms and OS
permissions errors.)

> I'm running Solargraph 0.50 open Ruby 3.2.0, and macOS 14.3
>
> Anyone got an idea?

The LSP logs are usually the first place to look; you can enable verbose 
logging in the language-specific settings for Ruby, and that *may* generate 
additional useful data.

Filing an issue with Solargraph might shake loose some ideas as well.

Good luck,

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.1

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Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
15.0.1. This is a free update for anyone using BBEdit 15, and includes a number 
of fixes for reported issues, as well as all the new features and refinements 
previously released as part of the BBEdit 15 upgrade.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/notes-15.0.1.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 15 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

<https://www.barebones.com/store/bbedit_upgrades.html> .

If you purchased a BBEdit 14 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after July 1, 2023, you have been sent a free license upgrade, 
to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive this, 
please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 <https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/download.html>

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.1 (15A77) pre-release

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and
other operations, BBEdit will not ask the OS to remount unmounted
volumes. This resolves semi-infinite OS stalls when the location
is on an unmounted remote file server.

*   [476112] Fixed bug in which the "Remove Line Breaks" text
factory operation was incorrectly flagged as requiring
configuration, which prevented factories that used it from
running.

*   Fixed bug in the "Text Merge" panel, in which the path button to
the left of the entry field didn't open a file panel as intended.

*   Made a change so that when reopening a project with no documents
open in it, the "No Editor" placeholder is visible rather than
the project settings.

*   Adjusted entitlements in the app store build to improve
discovery of command-line tools installed by Homebrew.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:

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Re: Updates for v14?

[Rich Siegel]

On 20 Jan 2024, at 20:10, Tom Mai wrote:

> Will there be further bugfix-updates for BBEdit 14 – now that v15 is out?

14.6.9 is the final version in the 14 series; all further updates (bug fixes or 
otherwise) will be in the 15 series (until it is superseded by a hypothetical 
16).

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Re: Problem With Zapping Gremlins Settings

[Rich Siegel]

On 17 Jan 2024, at 16:49, Bill Kochman wrote:

> However, when I use the Zap Gremlins function, it is ALSO removing all of the 
> apostrophes from the copied text, which obviously results in words being 
> misspelled. This is particularly true of words which are either contractions 
> or possessive.

If the apostrophes are non-ASCII characters ("curly"), then turning off 
"Non-ASCII Characters" will preserve them (along with any other characters not 
in the ASCII range).

Alternatively you could use "Replace with code" and leave "Use ASCII 
equivalent" turned on.

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0.1 (15A69) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

earance of the close widgets in the
Windows palette when using dark mode.

*   [474884] Worked around WebKit bug on macOS 14 (FB13534686) which
would cause a crash when closing a "Preview in BBEdit" window
while the web inspector was open in the window.

*   [474826] Fixed crash which would occur when the C-family
language scanner was (ab)used with log files.

*   [475044] Fixed regression in which file filters which tested the
Finder lock or a file's visibility status would erroneously
report an error and fail to match eligible files.

*   Corrected out-of-date information in the help book, and added a
section for ChatGPT worksheets.

*   [475243] Fixed bug a bug which prevented the automatic creation
of a new document when making the application active via the Dock
(subject to the preference setting).

*   [475208] Corrected the minimum width of the minimap window, so
that clicking the green zoom button behaves predictably.

*   [475334] Fixed bug in which multi-file "Extract" operations
didn't perform Grep replace pattern substitutions correctly.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/BBSW-download/BBEdit-15.0.1_15A69.dmg

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Re: ChatGPT worksheet contexts

[Rich Siegel]

On 16 Jan 2024, at 11:54, James Reynolds wrote:

>>> There's not currently a mechanism for adding (or specifying, or changing) 
>>> context. If this is important to you, please let us know via email to 
>>> "supp...@barebones.com".
>
> So is the entire worksheet sent, the line the cursor is on, or the selected 
> text?

If there is no selection, the worksheet sends the line containing the insertion 
point. If there is a selection, the selected text is sent.

> Which also makes me think that if you're going to support local AI models you 
> might want to have more preferences than just the url to the API. You might 
> want to run them from a cli tool like llama.cpp or ollama, which would mean 
> you'd need to be able to change the cli flags passed to the tools. This is 
> probably a good reason to not support local AI models or anything via cli 
> since it just means bloat and losing focus.

At that point I think you could usefully employ a Shell Worksheet. :-)

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Re: ChatGPT worksheet contexts

[Rich Siegel]

On 15 Jan 2024, at 17:09, Tim Gray wrote:

> What is the recommended way of including a context while use a ChatGPT 
> worksheet?  Just start of with it as your first line?  Something else?

There's not currently a mechanism for adding (or specifying, or changing) 
context. If this is important to you, please let us know via email to 
"supp...@barebones.com".

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Re: automator actions can't be opened

[Rich Siegel]

On 15 Jan 2024, at 9:14, Johnny Ragadoo wrote:

> First, insert standard gushing about BBEdit. It is cool in the extreme.
>
> Automator doesn't show any BBEdit actions. I found a Barebones
> download BBEditAutomatorActionsInstaller-14.1.pkg
> at https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/automator.html .
>
> When I tried to open the .pkg file in macOS 12.7.2 Monterey I got an error
> stating “BBEditAutomatorActionsInstaller-14.1.pkg” can’t be opened because
> Apple cannot check it for malicious software.

Right-click on the package and choose "Open", and then confirm that you wish to 
do so. Thereafter you should be able to install the actions.

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Re: Can't get CharGPT to work on v15

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Jan 2024, at 8:44, Arthur Werry wrote:

>> Control-Enter works for me.
>
> I looked high and low for how to initiate a ChatGPT inquiry ... where in
> the help files does it say to use Control-Enter?

Page 397 of the user manual (via the Help menu) describes "Working with 
ChatGPT".

The "Enter" key (on full sized keyboards that have one) is conventional, but 
Control-Return is the factory default keyboard equivalent and works as well. 
"Control-Enter" doesn't do anything by default.

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Re: Document revisions question

[Rich Siegel]

On 10 Jan 2024, at 15:31, Tim Gray wrote:

> Am I interpret that as snapshot type file system things and not backup copies 
> in my BBEdit Backups folder that are automatically saved?

Yes, that is correct.

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Re: Document revisions question

[Rich Siegel]

On 10 Jan 2024, at 15:23, Tim Gray wrote:

> The new document revisions menu in the nav bar is great! Where does it pull 
> ‘file system recorded’ versions of the file?

>From the file system. :-)

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[ANN] BBEdit 15.0

[Rich Siegel]

[List mom note: please start new threads for specific questions rather than 
replying to this message. Thanks. :-)]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
15.0. This major upgrade adds nearly two hundred new features, improvements to 
existing features, and minor refinements.

Here are the high points, excerpted from the "What's New in BBEdit 15" page at 
.

*   Minimap

A new Minimap palette shows a high-level overview of the active text
document. This facilitates visualization of the document's overall
structure, as well as navigation within larger documents.

*   Expandable “Cheat Sheets”

Building on the concept of the Grep Cheat Sheet used in its Find
windows, BBEdit 15 introduces the ability to create and use your own
Cheat Sheets, which are functional references for text markup and
editing. Included are cheat sheets for basic Markdown syntax and for
BBEdit's clippings placeholders.

*   ChatGPT Worksheets

BBEdit 15’s joins BBEdit’s unique “worksheet” interface to ChatGPT,
so that you can have conversations with ChatGPT right in BBEdit
itself — no application switching or awkward copy/paste from a web
browser. Each chat worksheet that you create maintains its own
history, so that you can easily refer back to past conversations, or
keep a conversation going across an extended period of time.

*   Project Workspace and Settings Improvements

BBEdit’s unique “Text Factory” feature has been reimagined for
version 15. All available transformations are listed for easy
access, and assembling a factory requires fewer steps. A new “Run
Unix Command” operation improves factory portability by storing the
Unix command in the factory itself.

*   New Interface for Text Factories

BBEdit’s unique “Text Factory” feature has been reimagined for
version 15. All available transformations are listed for easy
access, and assembling a factory requires fewer steps. A new “Run
Unix Command” operation improves factory portability by storing the
Unix command in the factory itself.

...and much more.   

We encourage you to read the complete change notes for BBEdit 15.0: 
. (We spent a lot of 
time writing those notes, so it would be great for someone to read them. Be 
that someone.)

Here are some key details on pricing and upgrades for BBEdit 15:

*   The price for a new single-user license is US$59.99.

*   If you purchased BBEdit 14 *directly from us* on or after July 1,
2023, you are eligible for a free upgrade.

We will be sending email to all eligible registered customers by
Friday, January 19, 2024. Thank you for your patience. :-)

Meanwhile you can certainly use BBEdit 15 in evaluation mode until
your new serial number arrives.

*   BBEdit 14 customers who purchased between the original 14.0 release
date of July 19, 2021 and the free-upgrade cutoff date of June 30, 2023
can upgrade for US$29.99.

*   Registered customers of older BBEdit versions (2.5 through 13.5.7,
inclusive) can upgrade for US$39.99.

*   At this writing, BBEdit 15 is not yet available in the Mac App Store.
We are working with Apple to get it through the review process, and will
make an announcement here as soon as it is available.

*   If you have been using BBEdit in Free Mode, BBEdit 15 will
reset your evaluation period, and you will have a full 30 days in
which to try out all of BBEdit 15's new features. After 30 days,
BBEdit 15 will return to Free Mode.

Useful pages:

*   BBEdit 15 Change Notes:



*   Free upgrade eligibility:

.

*   Paid upgrade eligibility:

.

Enjoy,

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Re: functions list of the current file

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Dec 2023, at 19:43, 'Dmitry Markman' via BBEdit Talk wrote:

> Hi
> how I can get functions list of the current C++ source file?
>
> I wrote simple AppleSctipt
>
> tell application "BBEdit"
> set fl to functions list
> open fl
> end tell
>
> and that script opens floating window, but all properties related to text, 
> content are missings,
> so I can’t get text of the window and get function as a list (text)

The "functions list" application property is simply the scripting accessor for 
the Functions palette itself. I regret there is no access to individual 
functions in a file through the scripting model.

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Re: Backing up the currently open files list

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Dec 2023, at 22:08, 'Dan Nessett' via BBEdit Talk wrote:

> However, if
> I close BBedit by clicking on the Red button in the left-hand top corner,
> it prompts me to save any unsaved files and then when I open BBedit again,
> the previous currently open files list is no longer displayed.

BBEdit is a Mac application, and so you can have multiple windows open; and 
closing a single window does not automatically quit the application. So if you 
have a window with multiple documents in it, and you click the red close 
button, you're telling the application that you want to close all of the 
documents in that window.

> I would like to either: 1) change the behavior of BBedit so that closing it
> using the Red button doesn't cause it to remove all files from the
> currently open files list, or 2) figure out where in the BBedit
> configuration data the list of currently open files are listed, so I can
> save  the list. The second option would allow me to restore the currently
> open files list in case I mistakenly use the Red button to close BBedit.

You can use "Save as Project", which will create a BBEdit project document 
containing all of the files currently open in the window.

R.

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Re: Language Module for Logs

[Rich Siegel]

On 19 Nov 2023, at 14:28, BeeRich33 wrote:

> So I've tried many plist entries and I've not been able to get this going
> for some reason.  I'm not sure if it's the plist structure or the BBEdit
> preferences.  Here is my plist, which is the most simple I have come up
> with:

Likely it's in the wrong place, or it's malformed.

To see if it's in the right place: choose "Language Modules" from the Folders 
submenu of the BBEdit application menu. If your plist file isn't in the Finder 
window that opens, it's in the wrong place.

If it's in the right place, choose "Logs" from the Folders submenu. If there's 
a log file for language module errors, open it up and look inside; the recent 
entries (if any) may contain diagnostic information.

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.9

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.9.

This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 (please check 
your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is required), and 
includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all the new features 
and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.8

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.8. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

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R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.8 (14D93) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since previous 14.6.8 pre-release build:



version 14.6.8 (14D93)  (2023-10-10)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [470216] Restore the pre-14.6 behavior of unconditionally
displaying `U+00AD (SOFT HYPHEN)` characters. While not
technically correct, it's (at the moment) better than the
alternatives currently available.

*   Added default settings to work around the failure of `ruby-lsp`
and `deno` language servers to quit correctly when asked.

*   [470576] Fixed bug in which some project-specific commands were
inappropriately added to the contextual menu for instaprojects.

*   [470563] Fixed bug in which trying to create a new note from the
selection in a text document would report a -50 error if the
default notebook didn't exist (or was in use by another
computer).

*   [470736] Worked around macOS 14 bug (FB13224680) which caused
tick marks to be drawn in the wrong place in scrollbars.

*   Made changes to work around FB13219490, a regression in macOS 14
which adversely affects application performance by incorrectly
reporting which areas of a document window need redrawing.

*   [471167] Fixed bug in which the last item in the Grep cheat
sheet was present in the Find window, but absent everywhere else
(such as the Pattern Playground window).

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

R.

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[IMPORTANT] macOS Sonoma Compatibility

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

Since Apple will be shipping macOS Sonoma this coming Tuesday (9/26), here is 
some important compatibility information for all BBEdit customers:

*   macOS Sonoma *will not run* versions of BBEdit older than 14.6. If you 
attempt to run a version of BBEdit older than 14.6 on macOS Sonoma, the OS will 
advise you of this with an alert; confirming the alert will forcibly exit the 
application.

*   If you are currently using a version of BBEdit older than 14.6, and are 
planning to update to macOS Sonoma, we strongly recommend that you update or 
upgrade (as appropriate) to BBEdit 14.6.7 (the current public release, at this 
writing) before installing the new OS version.

BBEdit 14.6.7 is a free update for all BBEdit 14.x customers, and you can 
obtain it by choosing "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit application menu, or 
by downloading and installing it from the BBEdit updates page on our web site: 
 .

If you are using an older version of BBEdit and are planning to upgrade to 
macOS Sonoma, you will need to update or upgrade your installed version, as 
appropriate:

*   If your 30-day evaluation has previously expired, you will get a new 30-day 
evaluation period after installing BBEdit 14.6.7 from our web site: 
 . This is a fine 
opportunity to try out all of the new features that we introduced since the 
version you've been using.

*   If you have a license for an older version of BBEdit (13.x or older), you 
can download and start using BBEdit 14.6.7 immediately. You'll have 30 days of 
fully functional operation, and can obtain significantly discounted upgrade 
pricing from our web store: 
 .

We have also updated the macOS compatibility page on our web site with this 
information: .

Full compatibility information will be forthcoming as soon as we complete 
testing with the final release version of the OS.

Thanks for reading,

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.8 (14D87) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.6.7 public release:



version 14.6.8 (14D87)  (2023-09-20)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   Fixed a bug in which using "Preview in BBEdit" on a document
which didn't support syntax coloring (such as "Text File" or
"(none)") would generate an empty preview.

*   [464282] Fixed bug in which backspacing over certain zero-width
characters which were displayed as gremlins would not work
correctly, when "Show Invisibles" was turned off.

*   [469384] For SSH connections, suppress any `LocalCommand` config
directives, which will cause a login failure because sftp does
not like things on standard output which are not protocol data.

*   [468514] Changed "a warning" to "an error" at an important point
in the `bbresults(1)` man page.

*   [468613] Fixed bug in which the "Forget Item" button in the
alert presented for a missing item chosen from the "Open Recent"
menu would not always forget. ("Pepperidge Farm remembers...")

*   [470054, 470115] Fixed bug in which a couple of Search menu
commands would behave strangely when applied to an editing window
that was in full-screen mode with the Find window in front of it
(but without focus, due to having clicked in the editing window).

*   Worked around a regression in macOS 14 which prevented the About
window credits from displaying until the mouse passed over the
text area.

*   [470216] Unicode "soft hyphens" do not ordinarily display, but
if you turn on "Show Invisibles", BBEdit will present them using
an em-dash in the all-purpose invisibles color.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



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Re: add # comment to python code

[Rich Siegel]

On 20 Sep 2023, at 23:40, John Mitchell wrote:

> my search string is:  ^\s*print
> my replace string is:  #\0
>
> however it goes over the end of a blank line to connect with a next
> "print..."
> How do I stop the multiline operation?

You can use a (?-s) at the beginning of the pattern.

Or you could use the "Un/Comment" command on the Text menu. :-)

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Re: License code entered automatically?!?

[Rich Siegel]

On 18 Sep 2023, at 14:58, BBEdit Talk wrote:

> I'm just curious about how the hell this works.
>
> I bought an upgrade from ver. 12 on my desktop iMac.
>
> I then downloaded, installed and opened BBEdit 14 on my brand-new MacBook.
>
> When I clicked BBEdit > License, the serial number was already there.

GENIUS!

:-)

If you copied your serial number from the web page or confirmation email, the 
"Enter License" command will pick it up from the clipboard.

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Looking for accessibility testers…

[Rich Siegel]

Good morning all,

We've been laying some groundwork to improve accessibility in BBEdit for 
unannounced future versions.

This consists of changes intended to improve compatibility with various 
accessibility clients, which include the macOS VoiceOver screen reader, the 
"Full Keyboard Access" feature, and third-party tools which use the 
accessibility APIs provided by the OS to control applications.

If you, or a colleague use BBEdit and/or VoiceOver and/or the "Full Keyboard 
Access" provided by macOS on a regular basis, *and* you are willing to use 
pre-release versions of BBEdit, *and* you are willing to report malfunctions or 
unexpected behaviors to us, please send an email to  and 
let us know.

(Please don't reply on the list; this is a private beta, and that includes 
maintaining *your* privacy. :-) )

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Re: Share BBEdit configuration across multiple machines

[Rich Siegel]

On 17 Sep 2023, at 3:49, Diego wrote:

> I was wondering if there was a way that I could share the same BBEdit
> configuration (Preferences, Application Scripts, other scripts, colour
> schemes, etc) across two Macs?

It's not possible to share preferences settings (those are managed by the OS), 
but chapter 2 of the user manual (on the Help menu) has instructions for 
sharing configuration (the application support folder, and its contents) using 
Dropbox or iCloud Drive.

(We don't recommend that you use iCloud Drive; it has proven somewhat 
troublesome. But we can't stop you from trying.)

R.

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Re: How to run BBEdit from Terminal - macOs

[Rich Siegel]

On 31 Aug 2023, at 15:28, Bill Meacham wrote:

> I'm running macOS 10.14.6 (Mojave)
> I'm running BBEdit version 12.6.7 (412120, 64-bit, sandboxed)
>
> How can I run BBEdit from the terminal?  Here is what I tried:
> [...]

The first step is to install the command-line tools, which you can do from the 
BBEdit application menu.

Then you can run `bbedit`, `bbfind`, and `bbdiff`.

Each has a man page that will tell you how the (respective) tool works.

Top tip: running `bbedit` by itself does not launch the application until it is 
finished reading from standard input; use `bbedit -l` if all you want to do is 
start the application.

Enjoy,

R.


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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.7

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.7. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

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Re: All 'F5' edit menu commands greyed out

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Aug 2023, at 7:15, Riccardo Perotti wrote:

> Greetings.
> No matter what language I'm in, the four 'F5' commands in the Edit menu:
>
>- Complete
>- Show Symbol Help
>- Show Parameter Help
>- Expand Emmet Abbreviation
>
> ... are always greyed out.
>
> What's happening?

That is probably a good question for Tech Support; but the last three commands 
in particular require external installations; either language servers for 
BBEdit's LSP support <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/lsp-notes.html> 
or Emmet <https://emmet.io/>.

R.


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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.7 (14D83) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.6.6 public release:



version 14.6.7 (14D83)  (2023-08-10)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [463730] Fixed crash which would occur when processing
plain-text LSP completion documentation when running on macOS 11
or earlier.

*   [464522] Corrected appearance of text in the license panel when
Dark Mode is in effect.

*   [46] Made a change so that the Git branch status navigation
bar item doesn't spend any time updating itself at application
activation if it's not visible (as is the case for any document
not in a Git repository).

*   [464720] Fixed bug in which "Remove Comments" would delete the
last character of the document when performed with no selection
range; this created a problem if the document ended with a
closing `` element not followed by whitespace or a line
break.

*   [464862] Improve legibility of provisional inline input (such as
combining accents) when in dark mode.

*   [464872] Fixed bug in which the live match count in the Find
window did not correctly update after a "Replace" operation
(including "Replace All" and "Replace & Find").

*   [465705] Fixed bug in which clicking on a line in the results
list after "Find All" would beep, in cases where the search text
specified a color.

*   [465108] Quieted errors reported from use of the `allow`
attribute in HTML5 `iframe` elements.

*   [466243] Fixed bug in which Zip archives written out of order
(with files appearing in the archive before their parent
directory) were not read correctly.

*   [467518] Fixed stall which would occur when running certain
script processes from the "Commands" panel (but worked OK when
run directly from the Scripts menu; go figure).

*   [455725] Made a change to invalidate the Open File by Name
directory cache more aggressively in some situations (such as
when switching a Git branch), which will improve the accuracy of
searching in the wake of such events.

*   [467820, 467831] Fixed crash which would occur when opening a
document from a Zip archive while running on certain versions of
macOS.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



If you are using BBEdit via the Mac App Store, this build is also available in 
TestFlight: .

Enjoy,

R.

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Re: Setting a specific language for just a part of a document. Possible?

[Rich Siegel]

On 1 Aug 2023, at 4:48, Valery Kondakoff wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Often I need to edit js-scripts embedded in other documents (usually
> markdown).
> Any chance I can select a specific part of a document and specify the
> language just for this part?

I regret this is not currently possible.

R.

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Re: A few questions about BBEdit and Go's Language Server

[Rich Siegel]

These might all be good questions for Tech Support, particularly if you 
include a Zipped example folder which demonstrates the symptoms.

I would expect the "Complete" command on the Edit menu to be enabled when 
it's appropriate; currently this is done based on whether the character 
before the insertion point is a "completion trigger" according to the 
language server.

R.

On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 2:16:41 PM UTC-4 n...@nuuk.de wrote:

> Hi, 
>
> I'm trying to use BBEdit for Go development with the LSP support. Most of 
> the basic stuff like jumping to definitions worked out of the box.
>
> However I'm missing an essential feature that's possible with VS Code's Go 
> extension: smart suggestions without typing a letter, just based on the 
> position in the source code. I do not mean Copilot like autocompletions. 
> Just e.g. calling a Go function, cursor after the opening bracket and 
> hitting Ctrl-Space in VS Code. Then I get suggestions for completions based 
> on the types of the parameters. Is this possible with BBEdit and Go's LSP 
> support? The Edit -> Complete menu item is greyed out. 
>
> Also: the Show Parameter Help popup closes when I start typing parameters. 
> Is it possible to keep it open while I'm still inside the parentheses? 
>
> When I complete a function call name, it looks like this: 
>
> scrapper.FetchShows(<# 1: #>)
>
> The <# 1: #> is selected. In VS Code I see the parameters automatically 
> when I type the opening parentheses. The current argument is also 
> highlighted in the popup. 
>
> Cheers,
> Nils 
>

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Re: @media types in BBEdit's HTML Preview

[Rich Siegel]

On 9 Jul 2023, at 15:08, Christopher Finazzo wrote:

> Is it possible to set a specific media type in BBEdit's HTML Preview?

Not currently; but probably in some future version.

R.

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Re: LSP does not work

[Rich Siegel]

I have no reason to believe that compile_commands.json is at issue. You may need to turn on additional logging in clangd via the command line options.What if you put the project somewhere on your home directory, rather than in /tmp?R.On Jul 4, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Tom M  wrote:Hello Rich,Thanks for the response.I don't believe that the compile_commands.json file is the (main) issue. I tried generating the file[1] using cmake[2], but even after restarting BBEdit continues to display a gray dot in the editor (and a green circle in the "Installed Languages" list). The same thing happens for Python (jedi-language-server), Go (gopls), and Fortran (fortran-language-server). Again, these all work after installing the proper extensions in VS Code. BBEdit's logs do list errors for Go and Fortran though; see attached files.Thanks,Tom[1] compile_commands.json contents:[{  "directory": "/tmp/a",  "command": "/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/cc    -isysroot /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX12.1.sdk -mmacosx-version-min=11.7 -o CMakeFiles/a.dir/a.c.o -c /tmp/a/a.c",  "file": "/tmp/a/a.c",  "output": "CMakeFiles/a.dir/a.c.o"}][2] version 3.26.4; CMakeLists.txt contents:cmake_minimum_required (VERSION 2.6)project(A)set(CMAKE_EXPORT_COMPILE_COMMANDS ON)add_executable(a a.c)On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:08:14 PM UTC-7 Rich Siegel wrote:You will probably need to do some additional configuration. The LSP notes discuss this a bit.The clangd configuration page describes how to manually configure compile flags and other behaviors using a ".clangd" YAML file at the root level of the directory.A suitably configured `.clangd` file might have a `CompileFlags:` section which specifies include directories and other things that will help make clangd behave more usefully for you.The configuration page is here: <https://clangd.llvm.org/config>.R.On Jun 29, 2023, at 7:42 PM, Tom M <tom...@themorfords.com> wrote:Hello,I have installed the clangd language server and symlinked it to /usr/local/bin[1]. The server is also clearly found and “ready to start” according to Preferences: When I open a C file in BBEdit, the language server does start, as shown by `pgrep clangd` and by the log file[2]. However, it only shows a gray circle:According to the BBEdit LSP documentation, this means that “the server has not (yet) returned any diagnostics information for this file.” The problem is that I’m not sure how to get it to produce any such info. I get the same issue with every other language server that I’ve tried, including Python (jedi-language-server) and Go (gopls). All three language servers “just work” in VS Code.Any help would be much appreciated![1] Using the following commands:brew install llvmfor f in /usr/local/opt/llvm/bin/*; do ln -s "$f" "/usr/local/bin/${f##*/}"; done`which clangd` shows /usr/local/bin/clangd.[2] The contents of “~/Library/Containers/com.barebones.bbedit/Data/Library/Logs/BBEdit/LanguageServerProtocol-ANSI C.txt” (via the BBEdit/Folders/Logs menu) from the most recent invocation are shown below. The latter three lines were added when I quit BBEdit.2023-06-28 23:11:05.536: Application startup: 14.6.6 (14D78), r290142023-06-28 23:11:05.536: macOS version: 11.7.7 (20G1345)2023-06-28 23:11:05.540: Waiting for server startup to complete...2023-06-28 23:11:05.835: ...completed server startup.2023-06-29 09:59:52.994: Stopped language server for ANSI C2023-06-29 09:59:52.994: Cleaning up after normal server shutdown.2023-06-29 10:00:11.010: CLanguageModule.mm:2607: calling _StartLSPServer.



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Re: LSP does not work

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You will probably need to do some additional configuration. The LSP notes discuss this a bit.The clangd configuration page describes how to manually configure compile flags and other behaviors using a ".clangd" YAML file at the root level of the directory.A suitably configured `.clangd` file might have a `CompileFlags:` section which specifies include directories and other things that will help make clangd behave more usefully for you.The configuration page is here: .R.On Jun 29, 2023, at 7:42 PM, Tom M  wrote:Hello,I have installed the clangd language server and symlinked it to /usr/local/bin[1]. The server is also clearly found and “ready to start” according to Preferences: When I open a C file in BBEdit, the language server does start, as shown by `pgrep clangd` and by the log file[2]. However, it only shows a gray circle:According to the BBEdit LSP documentation, this means that “the server has not (yet) returned any diagnostics information for this file.” The problem is that I’m not sure how to get it to produce any such info. I get the same issue with every other language server that I’ve tried, including Python (jedi-language-server) and Go (gopls). All three language servers “just work” in VS Code.Any help would be much appreciated![1] Using the following commands:brew install llvmfor f in /usr/local/opt/llvm/bin/*; do ln -s "$f" "/usr/local/bin/${f##*/}"; done`which clangd` shows /usr/local/bin/clangd.[2] The contents of “~/Library/Containers/com.barebones.bbedit/Data/Library/Logs/BBEdit/LanguageServerProtocol-ANSI C.txt” (via the BBEdit/Folders/Logs menu) from the most recent invocation are shown below. The latter three lines were added when I quit BBEdit.2023-06-28 23:11:05.536: Application startup: 14.6.6 (14D78), r290142023-06-28 23:11:05.536: macOS version: 11.7.7 (20G1345)2023-06-28 23:11:05.540: Waiting for server startup to complete...2023-06-28 23:11:05.835: ...completed server startup.2023-06-29 09:59:52.994: Stopped language server for ANSI C2023-06-29 09:59:52.994: Cleaning up after normal server shutdown.2023-06-29 10:00:11.010: CLanguageModule.mm:2607: calling _StartLSPServer.



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Re: BBEdit Grep: Find column of data in CSV

[Rich Siegel]

If the file is well-formed CSV and the language setting is 
"Comma-Separated Values" (or the file's name ends in ".csv"), you can 
use the "Columns" submenu on the Edit menu to do things. This includes 
putting the insertion point in the fourth column and selecting "Copy 
Column".


Enjoy,

R.

On 20 Jun 2023, at 12:10, Pindar Creative wrote:

Hi, pushing my grep skills to the limit. I need to find everything in 
the
fourth column from the data/csv file below. Text in fourth column 
could be

anything. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks

"First Name","12","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","20","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","16","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","32","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","34","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","18","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","6","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","10","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","4","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","29","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","30","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","39","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","12","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","11","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","37","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","3","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","56","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","3","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","55","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"
"First Name","7","third","fourth","fifth","sixth","etc"

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Re: How to divide subtitles (srt) in two lines

[Rich Siegel]

On 6 Jun 2023, at 3:14, Otto Munters wrote:

> This formula does its job:
> Find: (?=(^.{120,130}))(^\n?.{61})
> Replace: \2\n
>
> I then repeat this formula with different values, from high to low.
> (?=(^.{120,130}))(^\n?.{61})
> (?=(^.{110,120}))(^\n?.{55})
> (?=(^.{100,110}))(^\n?.{50}
> )(?=(^.{90,100}))(^\n?.{45})
> (?=(^.{80,90}))(^\n?.{40})
> (?=(^.{70,80}))(^\n?.{35})
>
> Since there are many different files involved, it would be nice if this
> search and replace command could be done for the whole series at once. Is
> that even possible?

This is exactly the use case for a Text Factory. :-)

R.

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Re: Do Notes sync?

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On 5 Jun 2023, at 9:03, Jack Hodgson wrote:

> If I create a Notebook in a directory on my iCloud drive. Then I open that
> Notebook on two different Macs at the same time.

The application won't let you do that; a notebook can be opened only on one 
computer at a time.

However, changes that you make to the notebook in the shared location will be 
available to any computer which opens the notebook from that location.

If you want actual syncing, we make a product that does that. :-)

<https://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/>

R.

> If I make an edit to it on
> one Mac, will it automatically propagate to the opened Notebook on the
> other Mac?
>
> (I may have tested this scenario before you have a chance to reply.)
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 10:26 AM Rich Siegel  wrote:
>
>> On 3 Jun 2023, at 10:16, Simdude wrote:
>>
>>> This is probably a really basic question on the Notes feature in Bbedit,
>>> but do they sync between devices? I started using and took some notes on
>> my
>>> desktop. When I went to my laptop, I expected to see the same notes but
>> did
>>> not. Perhaps something in my setup?
>>
>> There is no intrinsic syncing in BBEdit. You can create a Notebook in a
>> synced location (Dropbox, OneDrive, etc); or you can place BBEdit's support
>> folder in a synced location and the default notebook will sync. Otherwise,
>> no. :-)
>>
>> R.
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Re: Do Notes sync?

[Rich Siegel]

On 3 Jun 2023, at 10:16, Simdude wrote:

> This is probably a really basic question on the Notes feature in Bbedit,
> but do they sync between devices? I started using and took some notes on my
> desktop. When I went to my laptop, I expected to see the same notes but did
> not. Perhaps something in my setup?

There is no intrinsic syncing in BBEdit. You can create a Notebook in a synced 
location (Dropbox, OneDrive, etc); or you can place BBEdit's support folder in 
a synced location and the default notebook will sync. Otherwise, no. :-)

R.

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Re: Text Factory Equivalent for BBEdit: Text: Remove Line Breaks?

[Rich Siegel]

On 24 May 2023, at 17:06, Mark Mayberry wrote:

> I know this is a DUMB question, but how do you get a Text Factory to work 
> ONLY on the file that is currently open and visible in BBEdit?

Place it in BBEdit's "Text Filters" folder, which you can get to by choosing 
"Text Filters" from the Folder submenu on the BBEdit application menu.

More on this in the user manual, but to summarize: filters run on the selection 
of the active text document, or on the entire document if there is no selection.

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.6

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

For those of you who haven't noticed yet :-), we are pleased to announce the 
release and immediate availability of BBEdit 14.6.6. This is a free and 
recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 (please check your macOS version 
before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is required), and includes a number of 
fixes for reported issues, as well as all the new features and refinements 
previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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Re: Use Keyboard Maestro (KM) to Automate BBEdit Menu Steps

[Rich Siegel]

On 22 May 2023, at 10:04, Mark Mayberry wrote:

> I am attempting to set up create a macro that would automate the process of
> cleaning up a block of text as I import it into BBEdit. I have successfully
> created a macro that selects the Text Menu in BBEdit to (1) Straighten
> Quotes, (2) Strip Trailing Whitespace, and (3) Normalize Line Endings.
> These steps are easy.
> [...]

I don't know anything about Keyboard Maestro, but have you considered using a 
Text Factory for this?

Start with File => New => Text Factory and go from there.

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.5

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.5. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

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Re: Keyboard-shortcuts for the navigation within the Currently Open Documents

[Rich Siegel]

On 5 Apr 2023, at 2:45, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

> are there any keyboard-shortcuts for the navigation within the Currently Open 
> Documents?

The "Previous Document" and "Next Document" commands on the View menu have 
assignable keyboard equivalents.

R.


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Re: gutter setting

[Rich Siegel]

On 31 Mar 2023, at 0:48, Murray Smith wrote:

> I had a look a the manual, and unfortunately with my very limited coding
> skills I couldn't work out how to change the gutter color without changing
> the editors background color; I see that you have said that the gutter is
> derived from the background color (but washed out) - is this a set value or
> do you know if it can be tweaked, and if so any hints on how I might try
> this.

Since the line number/gutter color is derived from the background color, the 
two are related and to change the former perforce requires changing the latter.

What, specifically, are you trying to accomplish?

R.

> Thanks again for your time
>
> Murray
>
> On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 07:28:08 UTC+11 Rich Siegel wrote:
>
>> On 30 Mar 2023, at 16:19, Murray Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I have searched the net for weeks. - does anyone know how to change the
>>> settings for gutter color, font etc in BBedit 14; I'm sure it can be done
>>> since different themes have different gutter color settings - thanks in
>>> advance
>>
>> The user manual (available on the Help menu) contains a discussion of how
>> the text color settings work. You'll find it in the section called "Text
>> Colors Preferences", beginning on page 258.
>>
>> The background of the line bar/gutter bar and other adornments of the text
>> area are derived from the "Background Color" setting. (The background color
>> is applied, and then "washed" to differentiate it from the text view
>> background.)
>>
>> R.
>>
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Re: gutter setting

[Rich Siegel]

On 30 Mar 2023, at 16:19, Murray Smith wrote:

> I have searched the net for weeks. - does anyone know how to change the
> settings for gutter color, font etc in BBedit 14; I'm sure it can be done
> since different themes have different gutter color settings - thanks in
> advance

The user manual (available on the Help menu) contains a discussion of how the 
text color settings work. You'll find it in the section called "Text Colors 
Preferences", beginning on page 258.

The background of the line bar/gutter bar and other adornments of the text area 
are derived from the "Background Color" setting. (The background color is 
applied, and then "washed" to differentiate it from the text view background.)

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Re: Displaying TSV files

[Rich Siegel]

On 17 Mar 2023, at 18:35, Laurel Cooper wrote:

> I work with large, tsv-formatted text files The files are 17 column text
> files with the columns separated by tabs.  I need to be able to see that
> none of the tabs are missing.
> I can see the tab stops by turning on "Show invisibles", but in some lines
> the tabs are basically on top of each other, and in other places, the text
> is on top of them.
> Is there a better way to display these files?

I recommend using BBEdit 14.6.x and a monospaced font; if you're using a 
pre-14.6 version, try updating and see how that works for you.

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Re: Cannot 'see' my Clippings in BBEdit although in Library/App-Support?

[Rich Siegel]

On 13 Mar 2023, at 12:23, Omar KN wrote:

> *Question:
>
> Is this really correct to have "Library b (again!)/App Support” inside 
> BBEdit/Data?

It is.

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Re: Cannot 'see' my Clippings in BBEdit although in Library/App-Support?

[Rich Siegel]

On 13 Mar 2023, at 12:12, Omar KN wrote:

> However, the clippings are in the
> Library/ApplicationSupport/Clippings/Clipping-bucket/there they are.

Choose "Open Clippings Folder" from the Clippings menu, and see if it opens the 
same folder in the Finder.

If not, then your clippings are in the wrong place. :-)

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Re: Dropbox Mac update moves Dropbox folder to ~/Library/CloudStorage, how does this affect BBEdit syncing?

[Rich Siegel]

On 19 Feb 2023, at 15:26, Donald Burr wrote:

> Dropbox has been working on a beta which moves the Dropbox folder from
> $HOME/Dropbox into $HOME/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox, which has been
> causing compatibility issues for some people/apps.Well this has apparently
> gone out of beta and we are now being "encouraged" to upgrade.For now the
> update isn't mandatory, but we are being "gently" encouraged (by way of an
> annoying red notification dot) to upgrade. However I wouldn't be surprised
> if one day that upgrade becomes mandatory. Wondering if BBEdit's
> Application Data folder syncing will play nicely with this change, or
> whether there will be problems.

There is no problem updating Dropbox; BBEdit will manage the location 
correctly. (But make sure that you're running a suitably recent version of 
BBEdit.)

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Re: Find files that don't contain text?

[Rich Siegel]

On 17 Feb 2023, at 11:16, Neil Faiman wrote:

> One of those things that must be easy, but I haven’t been able to figure out 
> how:
>
> Given a set of files (specified in a Multi-File search dialog box), I want to 
> find all the files that do NOT contain a string matching a grep pattern 
> (specifically, a line beginning with the string “DecisionDate:").

The "Exclude Matches" option in the Multi-File Search window will do that for 
you.

Enjoy,

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.4 (14D55) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.6.3 public release:



version 14.6.4 (14D55)  (2023-02-03)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [455820] Fixed crash which would occur on macOS 13.x when trying
to truncate a note's title for display in the navigation bar, and
the title looked enough like an URL to trigger a bug in the OS.

*   [455847, 455908] Fixed regression in which opening the
completion panel (or one of its cousins) would cause a space
switch.

*   [455937] Improved accuracy of the "looks like HTML" test, which
in turn improves correctness of fold generation when processing
incomplete and unqualified snippets of HTML code.

*   [455975] Fixed regression in which Extract would not find all
occurrences of very short patterns which occurred multiple times
on the same line, e.g. "`.`".

*   [455933] Fixed crash which would occur when navigating
differences after having made certain specific edits in one of
the files being compared.

*   [455514] Updated the list of ISO language codes used by the "New
Document" command and HTML syntax checker.

*   [454256] Corrected some omissions from the global attribute list
which were causing incorrect error reports from the HTML5 syntax
checker.

*   [453748] Fixed crash which would occur when closing a document
while its selection (or contents) were being recited by the
speech system, and then subsequently quitting the application
while waiting for speech to finish.

*   [454273] "Open File by Name" will not search files/folders listed in the
"Open Recent" history. If you would prefer that it do so, turn on the
appropriate expert preference:

`defaults write com.barebones.bbedit OFBNIncludesRecentItems -bool YES`

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

R.

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Re: Shell Integration Point to BBEdit File Line

[Rich Siegel]

On 31 Jan 2023, at 6:55, BeeRich33 wrote:

> Is there a way to get *shell integration* to point to a specific line in a
> *BBEdit* file?
>
> I want to use *iTerm2* to display links to files that can be opened in
> *BBEdit* (*.md *files), but I want that click navigation to also go to the
> line.
>
> Can this be done?

I have no idea what "shell integration" is, but page 71 of the user manual 
describes the `x-bbedit:` URL scheme, which provides the means to specify a 
file and line. Perhaps that is fit for purpose.

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.3

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.3. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.2

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.2. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.2 (14D39) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.6.1 public release:



version 14.6.2 (14D39)  (2022-12-06)

Additions
-

*   Added an expert preference to globally shut off font ligature
support, in cases where you don't want BBEdit to ever try to use
ligatures (even when your editing font supports them):

`defaults write com.barebones.bbedit DisableAllFontLigatures -bool YES`

Changes to this setting require application restart to take effect.


Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [452014] Corrected tooltip display in the Multi-File Search
window source list for items that have had their paths elided.

*   [452034] Change the factory default setting of the
`HTMLSyntaxChecker_WarnForIgnoredBlocks` expert preference so
that `#bbpragma ignore_errors` doesn't generate a warning.

*   [451936] When using `cmark-gfm` for Markdown previewing, BBEdit
will request the `table`, `strikethrough`, and `tasklist`
rendering extensions.

*   [451825] If a variable in a persistent include statement isn't
properly delimited, the application will not attempt to perform a
substitution with that variable's value, and will generate a
warning. This is consistent with the documented behavior,
and protects against unexpected outcomes.

*   [451833, 451937] Fixed bug in which the "do not contain" Process
Lines setting was not stored correctly when used in a text
factory, and as a consequence was not honored when the factory
was applied.

*   Made a change to improve drawing performance in the text area.

*   [451815] Improved the appearance of the indicators used for
language server configuration status, as well as for
error/warning status in the navigation bar for documents managed
by a language server. The different states are now distinguished
by shape as well as by color.

*   [452273] Fixed crash which would occur when editing arguments to
command-line arguments in the Markdown renderer preferences and
language server configuration panel.

*   [452284] Avoid expanding folders in the project list when
opening a document under typical conditions, since it's not
really necessary and can be disruptive.

*   Fixed bug in which Git "Show Working Copy Status" for the active
document would only list status for files in the same directory
(or lower) as the source file, as opposed to the entire working
copy as intended.

*   [441816] Put in some armor plating at the site of a crash
reported during computer shutdown.

*   [452482] Fixed bug in which using Next Document/Previous
Document in a notebook with the `SurfNextPreviousInDisplayOrder`
expert preference turned on would navigate the documents in
alphabetical order, rather than in the order shown in the
sidebar.

*   Added `Gemfile` and `Gemfile.lock` as exact-match mappings for
the Ruby language module.

*   Extended the minimum interval before shell worksheets issue a
completion notification.

*   [452490] When using Cmd-down-arrow or Cmd-End to move the
insertion point to the end of the document, make sure the
scrolling honors the overscroll setting (from the Editing
 

Re: Simple question: Forgetting BBEdit savings for documents

[Rich Siegel]

On 29 Nov 2022, at 17:04, David Stein wrote:

> Simple question regarding tabs vs. spaces:
> [...]

Documents remember their own settings if those changes were made individually 
using the Text Options panel.

You can restore them to the (current) global preferences by using "Normalize 
Options", on the Edit menu.

R.

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Re: Grep: Delete everything that doesn't match.

[Rich Siegel]

On 12 Nov 2022, at 16:09, Michael Kocher wrote:

> I'm trying to use a multi-file search and replace using grep. I'm still
> pretty new to grep and BBEdit and could use some help.
>
> I can isolate the text I want to keep using this:
>
> 
> Unfortunately, that's the content I want to keep. Is there a way to find
> everything *except* what that line pulls up and delete it?

The "Extract" button might do the job for you here. (Leave the "Replace" field 
blank.)

R.

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Re: Copy markdown as HTML

[Rich Siegel]

On 7 Nov 2022, at 16:00, Frank Eves wrote:

> Markdown focused applications like iA Writer, Marked2 and Ulysses have an
> Edit Menu item 'Copy as HTML'. I find it handy when creating WordPress
> content. Unfortunately, for my purposes, BBEdit's Edit menu's 'Copy as
> Styled HTML' outputs more complex text. Can someone suggest an easy way to
> copy markdown as basic HTML in BBEdit?

"Copy as Styled HTML" is intended for copying an HTML representation of the 
actual text displayed in the editing area, e.g. for including the 
syntax-colored text as a code example in a web page.

When used with a Markdown document, the "Export as HTML" command on the File 
menu will export the same HTML that is used for previewing.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.1

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.1. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6.1 (14D21) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.6 public release:



version 14.6.1 (14D21)  (10-05-2022)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   Enabled ligatures by default for 
[Monoid](https://github.com/larsenwork/monoid)
and Monoisome.

*   [451411] Fixed the likely source of a submitted crash log.

*   Made a change to work around Radar 100658961, which would
sporadically cause inconsistent enabling of buttons in the Find
window (and probably other things too).

*   The application will honor the value of 
`NSMenuShouldUpdateSettingsTitle`
when running on macOS 13.0 and later, if you're into that sort of thing.

*   [451414, 451428] Restored control of font smoothing based on the
old expert preferences (as well as the `AppleFontSmoothing`
system preference for which there is no GUI in macOS 12.0 and
later).

*   [451415] Corrected display of zero-width and certain
non-breaking space characters. Since the default OS glyph
substitution doesn't display anything terribly useful when "Show
Invisibles" is turned off, these characters will always be
displayed as though "Show Invisibles" is turned on (a gray
vertical bar for zero-width characters, and a red bullet for
alternative spaces).

*   [451425] Fixed regression in which changes to a project's site
settings weren't actually saved into the project.

*   [451403] Start Xcode project discovery on a background thread,
so that if Spotlight is completely broken such that `mds` is hung
and blocking API calls, the application won't hang at startup.

*   [451408] Fixed bug in which clicking on a color swatch in the
Preferences window and then bringing an editing window to the
front would fail to disconnect the Preferences swatch from the
color panel, such that changes in the color panel would affect
*both* the editing window (intentional) *and* the setting in the
Preferences window (undesired).

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.6.

This is a free update for anyone using BBEdit 14 (as well as for anyone using 
11.6.8 or later in Free Mode), and includes a number of feature additions, 
refinements to existing features, and fixes for reported issues.

Notable (among many other things) in this update:

*   Rewritten text rendering to add support for font ligatures; improve 
Unicode compatibility; improve performance; and work around macOS bugs;

*   Quick bookmark creation in the FTP/SFTP connection panel;

*   Quick access to the Notes window from the Dock menu;

*   Performance improvements and fixes for reported issues.

A complete digest of the changes since 14.5.2 is available here:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/notes-14.6.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

<https://www.barebones.com/store/bbedit_upgrades.html> .

BBEdit 14.6 will soon be available in the Mac App Store. If you have an active 
subscription, all of BBEdit's advanced features are active immediately upon 
installing the update: no additional purchase is required.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 <https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/download.html>

Enjoy,

R.
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Re: BBEdit and Grep

[Rich Siegel]

On 30 Sep 2022, at 6:12, Kaveh wrote:

> Finally, this  site I find very useful.

You may find the Pattern Playground on the search menu to be useful, as well. 
:-)

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6 (14D013) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on an update to BBEdit 14 to add some new features and 
refinements, and address a few recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since previous 14.6 pre-release:



version 14.6 (14D013)   (09-28-2022)

Additions
-

+   [DOC] Added "Show Notes" to the Dock menu; this will open the
Notes window.

Changes
---

*   [DOC] When running on macOS 13.0 and later, the "Preferences"
menu command reads "Settings", and the title of the Preferences
window is likewise changed to "Settings" as well. (We don't make
the rules, that's just how it is.) The help book and user manual
are not dynamically mutable, and so they will continue to refer
to "Preferences" for quite some time.

*   [450531] When using Zoom In or Zoom Out for a "Preview in
BBEdit" window when running on macOS 11.0 or later, BBEdit will
ask the web view to magnify the contents, so that (if necessary
and appropriate) the contents will reflow.

*   Made some changes to improve the printing experience: progress
is now provided for printing text documents, and the process is
window-modal so that if you are spooling something long, you can
continue working in other documents meanwhile.

Fixes
-

*   [NFR] [451129] Fixed regression in which the "Title Case" change
case option didn't change the text.

*   [NFR] This build contains a lot of internal changes to sanitize
API usage. There should be no visible difference in performance,
stability, or behavior; but if you see something, say something.

*   Disqualify Java `.hprof` files from consideration as HTML or XML
(or as text files, for that matter).

*   [436523] Fixed bug in which Perl variable coloring extended
further than desired in cases like "`$foo->@{'abc', 'def'};`"

*   Racket files are treated as a special case for the
Lisp/Scheme/Clojure language module, including special treatment
of `#|...|#` block comments and `#;` s-expression comments.

*   [450728] Fixed bug in the Unix Shell Script parser in which
hashes ("`#`") in the middle of a string were treated as comment
delimiters, which generally did not have the desired outcome.

*   Fixed display bug in the "Installed Languages" panel in which
the "Menu" column did not immediately reflect the use of "Show
All" or "Hide All".

*   [450817] Fixed bug in which the soft wrap indentation setting
was not saved with a document's state; consequently it would
reset to the preference default when reopening the document.

*   Fixed crash which could sporadically occur when closing the text
document that the Find window was busy searching, and then
activating the Find window again. (This usually happened only
with very large files, but could conceivably happen any time,
with the correct sequence of operations and timing.)

*   [380538] Fixed bug in which adding an item to the
Language-Specific Settings list in the Language preferences would
not scroll it into view.

*   [421409] Turn off the "Soft Wrap Text" option when presenting
the output of Hex Dump {File, Front Document}, since wrapping is
not useful in that case.

*   [450956] Fixed bug in which backslashes in Go raw strings were
improperly treated as character escapes.

* 

Re: Flipping the panes in search results?

[Rich Siegel]

On 15 Sep 2022, at 10:14, François Schiettecatte wrote:

> Hi
>
> I was wondering if there was a way to flip the results and editor panes in 
> the Search Results window?

There is not, sorry.

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.6 (14D007) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on an update to BBEdit 14 to add some new features and 
refinements, and address a few recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.5.2 public release:



version 14.6 (14D007)   (09-06-2022)

Additions
-

*   [DOC] The bookmark menu in the FTP/SFTP connection panel gets
"Add Bookmark" and "Manage Bookmarks" commands, so you can
perform those operations before connecting, if desired.

*   [DOC] Added settings to the "Editing" preferences to specify
alternative characters for Show Invisibles, for tabs and for line
breaks. The arrows next to the respective edit fields will open
the macOS character panel. There are some restrictions; you can't
use letters and numbers, for example. You *should* use
punctuation, since that is generally more readable. The factory
defaults are "∆" (U+2206, "`INCREMENT`" option-J on US keyboards)
for tabs, and "¬" (U+00AC, "`NOT SIGN`", option-L on US
keyboards) for line breaks.

Changes
---

*   The low-level text rendering in BBEdit's editing engine has been
reworked to improve performance and OS compatibility (including
future macOS releases).

This change also brings improvements to Unicode character rendering
and application stability, and includes workarounds for longstanding
macOS bugs and performance regressions (Radar 34909871, FB5433254,
FB7654002, FB9979006, FB10429697, FB9971063) which manifested as a
constellation of symptoms, including:

*   application hangs at startup (usually displaying "waiting
for macOS…" in the startup progress panel);

*   application stalls when coming to the foreground after more
than a minute of non-use in the background;

*   failure to render character glyphs in the editing area, such
that windows appeared to be blank;

*   failure to display ligatures when supported by the font in use;

*   use of a (system-determined) display font instead of the one 
specified
in the Editor Defaults preferences.

*   slower than expected application startup time;

*   Since (with the new text rendering) Unicode "private use area"
characters are no longer quite so toxic, the `DisplayPrivateAreaGlyphs`
expert preference is now on by default.

*   Made changes so that Open File by Name doesn't completely tie up
the application in cases where building the search cache takes a
very long time. In such situations it'll be the same amount of
time before you get search results, but the application will
remain responsive for other uses in the meantime.

*   When connected to an SFTP server, symlinks in the browser
window's listing will be annotated with the target of the
symlink.

Fixes
-

*   Made changes to reduce the amount of directory rescanning for
the directory caching used in Open File by Name and some other
places.

*   Made a change to conserve memory used by marker data and other
structures.

*   Changing a setting in a project's Site Settings panel will clear
the deployment state, so that you don't have to remember to use
"Re-Deploy Entire Site".

*   [449991] Fixed bug in which completing a macOS system text
replacement (if allowed in the 

[ANN] BBEdit 14.5.2

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.5.2. This is a free and recommended update for anyone using BBEdit 14 
(please check your macOS version before updating, macOS 10.15.7 or later is 
required), and includes a number of fixes for reported issues, as well as all 
the new features and refinements previously released as part of the BBEdit 14.x 
upgrade cycle.

A complete digest of the changes is available here:

 

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 

Mac App Store customers of BBEdit will get the update automatically, and if you 
have an active subscription, all of the new advanced features are immediately 
available to you.

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

 .

If you purchased a BBEdit 13 license directly from us (or using our FastSpring 
web store) on or after January 1, 2021, you have been sent a free license 
upgrade, to the email address you used when purchasing. If you did not receive 
this, please check your spam traps.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 

Enjoy,

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.5.2 (14C213) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a maintenance update to BBEdit 14 to address a few 
recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the 14.1 public release:



version 14.5.2 (14C213) (2022-08-02)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

*   When BBEdit prompts you to unlock a file for which you don't
have write privileges, the alert has a "Don't ask again for this
file", which (if you click "Unlock") will set a preference so
that you don't get prompted again for that file.

Fixes
-

*   Fixed crash which would occur when using a "Copy Path" command
from the contextual menu in the sidebar of a disk browser *and*
one (or more) of the selected items was inside of an archive (Zip
or tar).

*   Fixed regression in which the "Search in ``" command on the Search menu didn't behave as intended
when the Multi-File Search window was already open.

*   Fixed crash which would occur when closing a window after
performing certain (reasonable, but not necessarily conventional)
document selection operations in the sidebar.

*   Addressed some small memory leaks identified by static analysis
tools.

*   Fixed hang which would occur when clicking in the popup menu at
the top of the sidebar in a Disk Browser window.

*   Quieted 100013 (`EACCES`) error report when using "Keep
historical backups" and saving a file which requires privilege
escalation to write.

*   Fixed bug in which diagnostics returned by LSP were not reported
for files located in iCloud Drive.

*   Fixed bug in which creating a note inside of a closed collection
(by using "New Note") didn't twist the collection open and select
the created note.

*   Generate placeholder HTML for cases when the preview HTML
generator (e.g. for Markdown) is missing.

*   Fixed empty "Kind" column in FTP/SFTP lists.

*   Worked around macOS behavior (FB10022175) in which certain
Shortcuts that were pinned to the menu bar did not appear in the
Services menu when they should have.

*fin*

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

R.

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Re: Small feature request

[Rich Siegel]

On 11 Jul 2022, at 14:02, James Reynolds wrote:

> One thing that really confuses me when I have a folder open in BBEdit is that 
> the "Project" sidebar highlights files that aren't currently displayed in the 
> editor. I used to think this was a bug but I've finally realized that the 
> "Currently Open Documents" is the true reflection of what's shown in the 
> editor. It would be nice if the "Project" sidebar removes highlighting a file 
> when that file is no longer shown in the editor. It would also be nice if the 
> "Currently Open Documents" panel could be dragged above the "Projects" panel.

If you would like the "Project" section to highlight the active document, you 
can do this.

Here is an excerpt from the Expert Preferences help 
:

BBEdit will not automatically reveal documents in the project list when 
you select them; View => Reveal in Project List works for this purpose. If you 
want automatic revealing:

defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
AutoRevealSelectedDocumentInProjectList -bool YES

R.

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[ANN] BBEdit 14.5

[Rich Siegel]

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

We are pleased to announce the release and immediate availability of BBEdit 
14.5.

This is a free update for anyone using BBEdit 14 (as well as for anyone using 
11.6.8 or later in Free Mode), and includes a number of feature additions, 
refinements to existing features, and fixes for reported issues.

Notable (among many other things) in this update:

*   Expanded LSP feature support: fix-me, Code Actions, and symbol 
renaming. (Support and behaviors vary by language and server.)

*   Tail Mode for improved log viewing;

*   Updated macOS requirements to 10.15.4 or later;

*   Performance improvements and fixes for reported issues.

A complete digest of the changes since 14.1.2 is available here:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/notes-14.5.html>

If you're already using BBEdit 14 (outside of the Mac App Store), you can 
choose "Check for Updates" from the BBEdit menu, or get the update from the 
BBEdit updates page:

 <https://www.barebones.com/support/bbedit/updates.html>

For those using an older version: if you would like to upgrade your paid BBEdit 
license, you are welcome to do so, starting here:

<https://www.barebones.com/store/bbedit_upgrades.html> .

BBEdit 14 is also available in the Mac App Store. If you have an active 
subscription, all of BBEdit 14.5's advanced features are active immediately: no 
additional purchase is required.

Meanwhile, BBEdit offers a 30-day evaluation period. During that period, all of 
BBEdit’s features are available. When it ends, you can still use BBEdit — with 
no nag screens or unsolicited interruptions, for free, forever.

After the evaluation period, you may re-enable all of BBEdit’s exclusive 
features at any time by purchasing a license (at a discount, if you have a paid 
license for a previous version).

 <https://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/download.html>

Enjoy,

R.
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[ANN] BBEdit 14.5 (14C195) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a update to BBEdit 14 which adds some new features 
and refinements, and addresses a few recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the previous 14.2 beta posted here:



**This version of BBEdit requires macOS 10.15.4 or later.**


**This version of BBEdit requires macOS 10.15.4 or later.**

version 14.5 (14C195)   (2022-06-20)

Additions
-

*   Added a `support folders` property to the `application` object
in the AppleScript interface. This returns a record of user
parameter pairs, keyed by the folder's name (e.g. "Clippings"),
each value being a file URL to the folder. Note that this does
*not* guarantee that any given folder exists.

*   [DOC] [414652] Added alternate (option-key) menu items for the
Tidy "Clean Document", "Reflow Document", and "Check
Accessibility" commands. Using the alternates will run the
commands using the previously selected options (or factory
defaults, if used for the first time).

Changes
---

*   [352415] When opening a worksheet without a saved working
directory, BBEdit will set the working directory in the
worksheet's shell to the directory containing the worksheet (or,
if appropriate, the directory containing the project document in
which the worksheet is embedded).

*   [DOC] Added settings to the "Preview" preferences (previously
"Preview Helpers") to control Markdown conversion to HTML for
previews and export. (These settings have been available for some
time as language-specific Markdown settings; this change makes
them more discoverable.)

*   [DOC] Removed the vertical grid lines from the "Preview Helpers"
browser list.

Fixes
-

*   [NFR] [DOC] Made the prompt in the "Go to Line Number" sheet
match the prompt in the cursor position popover.

*   [NFR] [445936] Fixed regression in which application-modal "do
you want to save changes" dialogs would remain on screen, no
matter what button you clicked.

*   Corrected layout of items in the printing panel addition.

*   Fixed bug in which items in the "Preview Helpers" browser list
were editable. (Editing them accomplished nothing.)

*   [418885] Made "Copy Path" and friends in disk browser windows do
something useful for items inside of Zip archives.

*   Fixed memory leak when using the Tidy commands which brought up sheets.

*   [359618] Made some changes to significantly improve performance
in the HTML parser, which in turn improves performance when
loading extremely large HTML and XML files (and scanning for
functions/folds in such files).

*   [310633, 319872] Made some refinements to the strategy that Open
File by Name uses to figure out where to look for files, so that
it's able to make a better educated guess.

*   [418437] Fixed bug in which making a case-only change to the
name of an open document would fail to update the UI correctly,
and would potentially lead to misbehavior if a document was
subsequently created or opened from the same location with the
old name (e.g. after deleting the renamed file).

*   [446211] Fixed bug in which Text Factory windows with enough
items to scroll would sporadically display the wrong selection in
the popup menu button (even though the backing data was correct
 

[ANN] BBEdit 14.2 (14C187) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

Good afternoon folks,

We're currently working on a update to BBEdit 14 which adds some new features 
and refinements, and addresses a few recently reported issues.

Note that this is a _pre-release_ version. The intent is to fix bugs and 
address areas of improvement based on what our customers have reported. 
However, since the software is at this point not fully tested, there _may_ be 
bugs and regressions.

If this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public release 
versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be offended if you choose 
to do so; you're under no obligation to install and use anything but a public 
release. :-)

Complete change notes to date for all the pre-release builds in this cycle are 
available here:

  

The change notes are organized into additions, changes, and fixes, and are 
annotated where appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can now verify 
that it's been fixed correctly. Please take the time to review the changes 
before using the new build -- it'll be worth your time.

One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE DO NOT 
REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether others have seen 
the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report to  
and we will deal with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.

Here is the list of changes made since the previous 14.2 beta posted here:



**This version of BBEdit requires macOS 10.15.4 or later.**

version 14.2 (14C187)   (2022-06-01)

Additions
-

*   [DOC] Added settings to the "Editing" preferences to specify
alternative characters for Show Invisibles, for tabs and for line
breaks. The arrows next to the respective edit fields will open
the macOS character panel. There are some restrictions; you can't
use letters and numbers, for example, nor can you use whitespace
or line breaks. You *should* use punctuation, since that is
generally more readable. If you try something and it doesn't work,
try something else.

The factory defaults are "`∆`" (`U+2206`, "`INCREMENT`" option-J on US
keyboards) for tabs, and "`¬`" (`U+00AC`, "`NOT SIGN`", option-L on US
keyboards) for line breaks.

*   [DOC] Some Windows editors (including cross-platform editors
that got their start on Windows, not that we're naming names)
allow Cut or Copy to cut/copy the entire line containing the
insertion point, in situations where there is no selection at the
time you choose the command.

In order to make life easier for platform refugees, BBEdit allows
this behavior by turning on the "Cut/Copy entire line for insertion
point" setting in the Editing preferences. It's off by default,
because standard macOS behavior is to only enable Cut or Copy when
there is actually a selection.

Changes
---

*   When using [EditorConfig](https://editorconfig.org/) to determine a 
file's encoding
(if specified), BBEdit will first check [its extended `coding` 
value](https://www.barebones.com/support/technotes/editorconfig.html) if one is 
present,
before checking the standard `charset` value.

*   [445784] If you try to save changes to a file that was opened
from (or moved to) the Trash, BBEdit will alert you so that you
know it's about to happen.

Fixes
-

*   [NFR] [445568] Fixed Grep performance regression caused by the
new UTF support.

*   [NFR] Exposed the `is note` property for documents in the
scripting dictionary.

*   [NFR] [445477] Fixed bug in which the horizontal scrollbar would
appear and disappear while horizontally resizing the text view
with soft wrapping enabled and set to "Window Width".

*   [NFR] [445631] Fixed regression in which a "Preview in BBEdit"
window would open invisibly small unless there was a previously
saved position in effect.

*   [NFR] [445496] Fixed Undo weirdness in the changes to New Line
{Before, After} Paragraph.

*   When syntax checking HTML5 documents, unencoded ampersands are
now allowed, provided they're not "ambiguous" (which is a term
defined by the standard).

*   [445485] Fixed a bug in which hiding items in results lists
(such as warnings) would cause the vertical scrollbar to be
miscalibrated when subsequently expanding and closing top-level
items.

*   Made a change to slightly improve performance when changing
display settings for very large results lists (specifically,
turning on/off the "Errors", "Warnings", and/or 

Re: Cmd-Tab to BBEdit very slow

[Rich Siegel]

On 1 Jun 2022, at 11:43, Nick J wrote:

> When I Cmd-Tab to BBEdit, it takes a couple of seconds for it to show.

It looks like you've posted this question to the list before. Have you tried 
writing to ?

R.

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Re: [ANN] BBEdit 14.2 (14C179) pre-release

[Rich Siegel]

On 25 May 2022, at 12:10, Bruce Van Allen wrote:

> Was there a reason 14.2 doesn’t show up if I use Check for Updates... (I’m 
> pre-release user)?

Yes. It's not currently on the Early Access build train, and this is 
intentional.

R.

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Re: Man Pages for Command-line Tools

[Rich Siegel]

On 24 May 2022, at 18:27, Rod Buchanan wrote:

> Hmmm … that’s in my MANPATH but they’re not there. Running "find 
> /usr/local/share -name bb\*” comes up empty.
>
> Trying to reinstall the tools yields a "The command-line tools are up to 
> date" message.  Can I simply rm the tool symlinks in /usr/local/bin and 
> reinstall the tools?

Certainly. :-)

R.

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Re: Man Pages for Command-line Tools

[Rich Siegel]

On 24 May 2022, at 10:24, Rod Buchanan wrote:

> Can someone tell me where the man pages for the command-line tools are 
> installed?  Looks like I need to update my MANPATH.

They're installed in /usr/local/share/man/man1/, which I think is in the 
default MANPATH.

R.


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