Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
Bruce Van Allen wrote: 1. BBEdit windows DO split vertically -- if what that means is showing two different areas of the same file, one above the other in the same window, both scrollable, editable, etc. I suspect what the original poster meant was a split running vertically, i.e., the split divides the window into left and right halves, not top and bottom halves, and you can show two separate files side-by-side there or even have two completely distinct tab groups in each pane. You can approximate this in BBEdit by simply having two windows, of course, but it's not quite the same user experience. (On the flip side, while Sublime Text *can* do that, it can't do the equivalent of BBEdit's pane split as simply/easily as BBEdit does. There are tradeoffs everywhere, I suppose.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
Upon your suggestion, I emailed Bare Bones support with my feature request. They responded quite quickly and noted that these features are on their list of future considerations. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 2011-03-03, Michael Bradley, Jr. wrote: Upon your suggestion, I emailed Bare Bones support with my feature request. They responded quite quickly and noted that these features are on their list of future considerations. Excellent. That's the way I've seen several great user ideas incorporated in this application over the years. Thanks. - Bruce _bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 3-Mar-2011, at 15:23, Bruce Van Allen wrote: Excellent. That's the way I've seen several great user ideas incorporated in this application over the years. All of my great ideas end up with This feature has been in BBEdit for 14 years, here's the page number for the manual. -- The difference between science fiction and fantasy in this world is not any of the elaborate rules that you hear. The difference is simply this: Science Fiction has rivets, Fantasy has trees. -Orson Scott Card -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 04/03/2011, at 13:02 , LuKreme wrote: All of my great ideas end up with This feature has been in BBEdit for 14 years, here's the page number for the manual. It would be nice if most vendors could have such a quick response time to feature requests, hey? :) To be honest, most of the features I use in BBEdit from day to day are the same ones I was using back in System 7 days. Typing, deleting, copy and paste. I've started using clippings with a vengeance lately, especially the lovely ones like method and if in the Perl Glossary. And yesterday I used the SFTP browser for the first time ever. No, seriously. But that raises the question in my mind: why isn't TextWrangler available on the App Store? Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 04/03/2011, at 14:06 , Alex Satrapa wrote: But that raises the question in my mind: why isn't TextWrangler available on the App Store? Hrmph… apparently it is, just the Bare Bones web site doesn't have a link to the entry. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 2011-03-03, LuKreme wrote: On 3-Mar-2011, at 15:23, Bruce Van Allen wrote: Excellent. That's the way I've seen several great user ideas incorporated in this application over the years. All of my great ideas end up with This feature has been in BBEdit for 14 years, here's the page number for the manual. Ah, true -- they're usually ahead of us. But think of the distraught souls who proposed features that have NOT been adopted, such as tabbed windows, variable-width columns, and the option to make all ponies visible... - Bruce _bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
I would wager that it hasn't been there hiding in the App Store for 14 years. Don't believe it if anyone tells you so. :) Bucky On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Alex Satrapa wrote: On 04/03/2011, at 14:06 , Alex Satrapa wrote: But that raises the question in my mind: why isn't TextWrangler available on the App Store? Hrmph… apparently it is, just the Bare Bones web site doesn't have a link to the entry. Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Bruce Van Allen b...@cruzio.com wrote: But think of the distraught souls who proposed features that have NOT been adopted, such as tabbed windows… But BBEdit *does* have tabbed windows — the tabs are just arranged vertically in the Document drawer. In my opinion, this works much better than conventional tabs arranged across the top of a window (e.g. Safari's tabs) because you can have a lot more before you run out of space (about 40 are visible without scrolling on my MacBook Air's screen) and the Document drawer is more forgiving of long file names (just make the drawer wider). And if the Document drawer takes up too much space for your tastes, the file popup in the navigation bar works nicely too, especially if you assign a keyboard shortcut to activate it. -Dennis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:51 PM, LuKreme wrote: On 27-Feb-2011, at 02:22, Michael Bradley, Jr. wrote: *1.* Vertical split for document windows. Seconded. I often want to have two documents side-by-side, and when editing long files (like postfix configs) I sometimes even want the same document in a side by side view. As you said, it's more space efficient (though for me, it would be far more useful if I could do a simple split with two documents). Yes, I do this with two windows, but the extra size of the window makes it less than ideal. Add me to the list of those who would like to see vertical splits. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
and once you use keyboard shortcuts to navigate documents, tabs and the drawer are useless! Bo On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:14 PM, toadl...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Bruce Van Allen b...@cruzio.com b...@cruzio.com wrote: But think of the distraught souls who proposed features that have NOT been adopted, such as tabbed windows… But BBEdit *does* have tabbed windows — the tabs are just arranged vertically in the Document drawer. In my opinion, this works much better than conventional tabs arranged across the top of a window (e.g. Safari's tabs) because you can have a lot more before you run out of space (about 40 are visible without scrolling on my MacBook Air's screen) and the Document drawer is more forgiving of long file names (just make the drawer wider). And if the Document drawer takes up too much space for your tastes, the file popup in the navigation bar works nicely too, especially if you assign a keyboard shortcut to activate it. -Dennis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
I sendt an e-mail to Barebones some time back requesting multiple horizontal splits ... I trust they have made a note of it. Would be great if they had an open feature-request system ... On Feb 28, 4:47 pm, Bruce Van Allen b...@cruzio.com wrote: On 2011-02-27, Terje Dahl wrote: Yes, vertical split would be very useful. I agree. Did either you or the OP send this request to Barebones support? [See the bottom of every message on this list: If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. ] Thanks. - Bruce _bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 27-Feb-2011, at 02:22, Michael Bradley, Jr. wrote: *1.* Vertical split for document windows. Seconded. I often want to have two documents side-by-side, and when editing long files (like postfix configs) I sometimes even want the same document in a side by side view. As you said, it's more space efficient (though for me, it would be far more useful if I could do a simple split with two documents). Yes, I do this with two windows, but the extra size of the window makes it less than ideal. -- This wasn't a proper land. The sky was blue, not flaming with all the colours of the aurora. And time was passing. To a creature not born subject to time, it was a sensation not unakin to falling. --Lords and Ladies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
Yes, vertical split would be very useful. I find myself doing alot of the same - looking at one part of a document, while working in another - or arranging documents side-by-side to to look at one thing while working on another. Also, for the same reason, I would love to see the existing horizontal split extended to allow more than one split: Often I find myself looking at two or more different sections of a document, while working in a third (or fourth) section. Now I have to both split and Open in aditional window to do this somewhat efficiantly... On Feb 27, 10:22 am, Michael Bradley, Jr. michaelsbradle...@gmail.com wrote: I've had a BBEdit license since 2000 -- always buy the paid upgrades too, as they're always worth it. About 18 months ago, I became enamored with MacVim and used it on a daily basis. Using it with the NERD Tree plugin makes MacVim a powerful, general purpose project editor. BUT ... I always find myself going back to BBEdit for a growing number of intense tasks and a couple of days ago I finally decided that I'm just generally better off (that is, I'll tend toward greater overall efficiency) using BBEdit 99% of the time. I'll miss some of the keybindings but there are really two features of vim that I'd love to see in BBEdit. *1.* Vertical split for document windows. Vertically splitting a text document and having two views of it side-by-side just feels more natural than splitting horizontally. In some of the complex programs I'm writing this comes up a lot, i.e. when I need to look back at helper functions while I'm composing another function that depends on them, and vice versa. Given the geometry of most computer screens (width greater than height), such arrangements are also more space efficient. *2.* Allowing separate documents to be viewed within the split panes of a document window, i.e. when doing project work. Yes, I know I can open a document in a separate window and then move it off to the side or Arrange windows (relevant to request #1 also), but that's a bit more clumsy. To the BBEdit team: thanks for such a great product that's only improved over the years. I look forward 10 years from now to using BBEdit version 16.4.2 or something like that. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On 2011-02-27, Terje Dahl wrote: Yes, vertical split would be very useful. I agree. Did either you or the OP send this request to Barebones support? [See the bottom of every message on this list: If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. ] Thanks. - Bruce _bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz_ca_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Feature requests: vertical split; opening different documents in a split window
On Feb 27, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Michael Bradley, Jr. wrote: 1. Vertical split for document windows. Vertically splitting a text document and having two views of it side-by-side just feels more natural than splitting horizontally. In some of the complex programs I'm writing this comes up a lot, i.e. when I need to look back at helper functions while I'm composing another function that depends on them, and vice versa. Given the geometry of most computer screens (width greater than height), such arrangements are also more space efficient. Precondition: the document you want to split is open and is the front document in the front window. 1. View - Open in Additional Window 2. Scroll to where you want to be 3 Reposition windows as required 2. Allowing separate documents to be viewed within the split panes of a document window, i.e. when doing project work. Yes, I know I can open a document in a separate window and then move it off to the side or Arrange windows (relevant to request #1 also), but that's a bit more clumsy. The process above can be easily modified to work for different documents. It's not exactly the same as vertical scrolling in the same window but it may get you through to the day vertical scrolling is implemented (assuming it is some day). You might also find Window - Synchro Scrolling to be interesting... Ted Stresen-Reuter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
