Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread Gil Robertson

Lloyd Charles wrote: Snip HiTom A friend told me this would keep termites out of
a building we were having trouble with. The copper wire needs to be strung a few
inches above ground, on insulators, kept tight, and butt joined (end on joint)
so that it will hum / resonate (like the old time aerial phone wires used to.)
Sounds good and I believe it would work but boy does it take some doing. The
wire is almost impossible to keep tensioned, between the dog laying up against
it, and the constant expansion - contraction in a long length of copper wire - I
gave up.

A couple of points.

The function here is likely to be different to the earlier thread. Termites are
very sound sensitive. So the humming wire may will work. To tension and to keep
tensioned, requires a high tensile wire as used for the old copper phone wires,
not the soft stuff used to wind coils. Find some old abandoned phone wires, or
use high tensile Galv Steel. You may need to play around with the spans of wire,
as this will control the pitch/ frequency. Dowse to find the one that makes
termites feel like going to the next house and that you can still live with. If
the maintenance of the wire is too difficult or dangerous to dog and visitors,
you could build an small electronic device to produce the same frequency for a
few tens of dollars and install in under cover.

>  We have got a trial going on at the moment with a white ant pepper made
> from a tincture and also spraying the active sites with a potentised
> arsenicum album (from a Malcolm Rae Card) this looks very promising. Have
> had some real good results around the house and yard with simple D8 pest
> insect peppers prepared with a small potentiser (this is not that difficult
> to hand prepare either) and applied with a watering can. Definitely NOT
> rocket science but easy and cheap and totally harmless.

Could you keep the list posted on this? The Rae Card for Arsenicum album, is the
homoeopathic, rather than the physical material. It will be interesting to see
what happens.


I have a "slow" compost heap, one that gets kitchen scraps and garden waste, as
distinct from a properly built "hot" compost. Every now and again, it gets put
through the screen and any uncomposted material goes in a new "hot" heap and
this starts again. I found I had a family of Grey/ Fruit Rat (Ratis ratis) found
it offered both accommodation and food. I decided to try a new Radionic Rate (to
me). So I just put a 500 ml of water on the Base 44 instrument and fired up the
rate for "To make unattractive to rats" which 31 34 34 18. I did not even go to
the effort of putting it in a trigger spray, just sloshed it around, on and over
the compound, which is made from four pallets. I also levelled the heap off and
closed their holes. When checking they seem to have left.

Gil




Re: BD 508 as inoculant; stinging nettle

2002-02-27 Thread SBruno75


In a message dated 2/27/02 9:21:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Steve,
did I miss a list of > >beautiful beneficient fungus with the nicest fattest
hyphae< ?
I assume you are speaking of mycorrhizal mycelium are there others?

Also how are you going to keep those fat hyphae in suspension and how do you
keep them from drying out after application? Or is it just spores you are
spraying?

By the By congratulations on the notoriety! >>

There seems to be a particular fuungal variety with larger diameter hyphae 
that the soil food web recognizes as more beneficial than others.  The hyphae 
grow as filaments in an aqueous solution and will spray out nicely.  I am 
developing a compressed air sprayer to apply these remedies so as not to 
damage microbes.  It is alright if they dessicate after soil contact, they 
will go dormant, or encyst or incorpoprate in the soil and revive at the 
appropriate time.  SStorch




re: need help

2002-02-27 Thread Christiane . Jaeger



Wayne,

Where is your property?
If it is in Australia it would be a great shame, if economics would force you to
have the pasture, if it is a native one, cultivated for cropping.  For here in
Australia, native grassland is the most threatened native vegetation habitat and
with it its native specialised fauna, such as the Plain's Wanderer.  Once, dug
in, you'll never get it back and the animals are driven  a bit closer to
extinction.

There are post-emergence tillage equipmetns, such as a "Striegel' that take
pretty good care of emerging weeds without damaging the crop too much, if it is
sown at a slightly higher rate.

Regards,
Christiane Jaeger




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies TestedAt UAI

2002-02-27 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Agri-Synthesis?  short-lived and overpriced? was R e:   Agri-Synthesis? Remedies Tested At   UAI



Whoo!


James wrote:
>As for developing into conscious angels I would rather live in this world
right now and evolve as the rest of mankind develops than to try and be the
first one there. No future in that. We dont have to change the world , just
ourselves.>

Whoola!
And them some.

Thank You
In Love & Light
Markess





OFF:Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread Manfred Palmer

Lloyd :
Thanks for that about the suspended wire. What about using a coiled spring
of appropriate gauge at one end to maintain tautness, yet give enough for
expanding and contracting dogs?.. manfred

- Original Message -
From: "Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Wired! Insect deterrents


>
> Original Message
> From: Thomas Schley  Wired! Insect deterrents
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> > An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper
> > or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters.  The
> > wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the
> > garden rows.  Anyone heard of this?  What is the principle behind it?
> > I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like.
> > Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks?
> > Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like
> > smoking banana peels?
> > -Tom
> >
> HiTom
> A friend told me this would keep termites out of a building we were having
> trouble with. The copper wire needs to be strung a few inches above
ground,
> on insulators, kept tight, and butt joined (end on joint) so that it will
> hum / resonate (like the old time aerial phone wires used to.) Sounds good
> and I believe it would work but boy does it take some doing. The wire is
> almost impossible to keep tensioned, between the dog laying up against it,
> and the constant expansion - contraction in a long length of copper wire -
I
> gave up.
>  We have got a trial going on at the moment with a white ant pepper made
> from a tincture and also spraying the active sites with a potentised
> arsenicum album (from a Malcolm Rae Card) this looks very promising. Have
> had some real good results around the house and yard with simple D8 pest
> insect peppers prepared with a small potentiser (this is not that
difficult
> to hand prepare either) and applied with a watering can. Definitely NOT
> rocket science but easy and cheap and totally harmless.
> Cheers
> Lloyd Charles
>




Re: Peoples essence?

2002-02-27 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Peoples essence?



As a note:

A local shaman noted in a workshop the other day that doing Soul retrieval  of Soul parts stolen by mothers is very common in her practice. This seemingly falls under that heading.

L&L
Markess





Re: BD 508 as inoculant; stinging nettle

2002-02-27 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: BD 508 as inoculant; stinging nettle



Steve,
did I miss a list of > >beautiful beneficient fungus with the nicest fattest hyphae< ?
I assume you are speaking of mycorrhizal mycelium are there others?

Also how are you going to keep those fat hyphae in suspension and how do you keep them from drying out after application? Or is it just spores you are spraying?

By the By congratulations on the notoriety!

In Love & Light
Markess

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:26:57 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BD 508 as inoculant; stinging nettle



In a message dated 2/26/02 9:26:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< >What we are seeing is that equisetum tea used on an agar plate grows the 
most
>beautiful beneficient fungus with the nicest fattest hyphae of any other
>inoculant.  These are the type of things we need to see in our soils to
>suppress the pathogenic fungi...sstorch

What's this 'we,' Steve? Are you running a lab or are you working with 
someone?

AND, that reminds me, what's the news on the Ingham testing of your 
preps that Christy mentioned in her report on the Future of Preps 
conference? >>

The we is Soilfood Web Inc.[swi] testing what I prescribe for the fields.  We 
are simply looking at the bd remedies through swi eyes and correlating to the 
processes involved.
There is some funding for this through a vineyard I am consulting at.  The 
report for the remedies were biologically high but I there has not been a 
written report yet...sstorch








Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread Lloyd Charles


Original Message
From: Thomas Schley  Wired! Insect deterrents


> Hi Folks,
> An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper
> or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters.  The
> wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the
> garden rows.  Anyone heard of this?  What is the principle behind it?
> I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like.
> Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks?
> Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like
> smoking banana peels?
> -Tom
>
HiTom
A friend told me this would keep termites out of a building we were having
trouble with. The copper wire needs to be strung a few inches above ground,
on insulators, kept tight, and butt joined (end on joint) so that it will
hum / resonate (like the old time aerial phone wires used to.) Sounds good
and I believe it would work but boy does it take some doing. The wire is
almost impossible to keep tensioned, between the dog laying up against it,
and the constant expansion - contraction in a long length of copper wire - I
gave up.
 We have got a trial going on at the moment with a white ant pepper made
from a tincture and also spraying the active sites with a potentised
arsenicum album (from a Malcolm Rae Card) this looks very promising. Have
had some real good results around the house and yard with simple D8 pest
insect peppers prepared with a small potentiser (this is not that difficult
to hand prepare either) and applied with a watering can. Definitely NOT
rocket science but easy and cheap and totally harmless.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies TestedAt UAI

2002-02-27 Thread Gil Robertson

Hi! Markess,
Have you done the Base 10 and Base 44 Rates, Please?

Moen Creek wrote:May I suggest that you stabilize whole package with
universal Love & Light with the intent of protection from radiations &
"sickness". in 2 Gang language they are 53-28 & 12-22.

> I bet it'll work well.
>
> Love & Light
> Markess




Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread James and Barbara Hedley

Dear Thomas,
This is a dificult one to answer. I hazard a guess without having a
photograph of the set up to dowse from that the wires are acting as antennae
for Extra Low Frequency [ELF] waves.
Radionic devices can be as complicated as you like, or as simple as running
a piece of wire, or writing a rate on a piece of paper with a witness of
where the emanations are directed to.
I would try to expand on this one but it is getting  late in the night. if
you would like to delve into this further drop me anoteon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and I will see what I can sort out for you.
Sincere regards
James

- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Schley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: Wired! Insect deterrents


> Hi Folks,
> An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper
> or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters.  The
> wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the
> garden rows.  Anyone heard of this?  What is the principle behind it?
> I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like.
> Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks?
> Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like
> smoking banana peels?
> -Tom
>
>
>




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI

2002-02-27 Thread James and Barbara Hedley

Dear Steve,
Yes that what it is. A chart is an abstract object that has no meaning
except that which we put into it.
Regards
James
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e:
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>
> In a message dated 2/26/02 4:30:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Through conscious observation and understanding.
>
> Nothing personal James but as a good example this statement could also
> be "How can any body use Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my
> comphrehension"
>
> Apart from using the BD preps with a good organic practise, BD and
> Steiners whole thrust for agriculture was for us to be able to
> consciously live in our environment and act as conscious participants
>
> The knowledge and skills for developing this insight are available in
> the works of people such as Lievegeod, Kolisko, Haushcka, Bohenmuhl,
> Pelikan and in my own way I have provided the base from which I work in
> this way.
> RS suggested the development of these skills are a necessary part of our
> present evolution process and if we do not take up this challenge to
> walk across this bridge then all we do is repick up the old ways of
> prehistory rather than develop into conscious angels.
> It is yours and each of our choice.
> The really lucky thing is that it IS possible to be conscious of the
> spiritual forces in nature and to grow plants accordingly.
> This is what the Agriculture course is telling us apart from the obvious
> bits on how to make the preps.
> This is the REAl challenge I see put before us by Biodynamics.
> This is also be one of the HUGE differences between the BD buck turners
> and some other BD practioners. The BDAs seem to have a small
> appreciation of this need and difference however they do not seem to
> have or promote the skills necessary to make conscious spiritual
> perception a every day reality. So they sit on high and isolate quietly.
> cheers
> Glen>>
>
> Excellent descriptio nfor a course charted to the future
>
>




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI

2002-02-27 Thread James and Barbara Hedley

I can't see how you can take one statement and say that I may as well have
referred to something else. The statement referred to dowsing the effects of
field broadcasters, not to BD in general. You then go on to espouse your
views on BDA's in general and what RS said. What RS said is only a small
part of the wisdom and knowledge that we must develop in this stage of man's
evolution. What is important is how mankind can acquire that knowledge which
is relevant to him at this time.

Study of the intellectual acuity of the Lievegoods and Kolisko's of this
world this does not help us to become "conscious participants" and "living
in our environment".To live in our envionment with conscious participation
requires us  to live in the unseen spiritual world as well as the physical.
I submit that the insights dowsers acquire from active participation in
trying to understand the phenomenal world are as relevant, if not more
relevant, as those acquired from reading about someone else's insights.

Your statement saying that I may as well have said, "How can any body use
Biodynamics without dowsing skills is beyond my comphrehension" is a point
worthy of discussion. Are you saying that dowsing has no part in
understanding what our BD preps are doing, or as a comparative guide to what
they are likely to do.
As for developing into conscious angels I would rather live in this world
right now and evolve as the rest of mankind develops than to try and be the
first one there. No future in that. We dont have to change the world , just
ourselves.>

James

- Original Message -
From: "Glen Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e:
Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI


> James and Barbara Hedley wrote:
> >
> > How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is
beyond my
> > comprehension
> > Sincere regards
> > James.
>
> Through conscious observation and understanding.

Apart from using the BD preps with a good organic practise, BD and
> Steiners whole thrust for agriculture was for us to be able to
> consciously live in our environment and act as conscious participants
>
> The knowledge and skills for developing this insight are available in
> the works of people such as Lievegeod, Kolisko, Haushcka, Bohenmuhl,
> Pelikan and in my own way I have provided the base from which I work in
> this way.
> RS suggested the development of these skills are a necessary part of our
> present evolution process and if we do not take up this challenge to
> walk across this bridge then all we do is repick up the old ways of
> prehistory rather than develop into conscious angels.
> It is yours and each of our choice.
> The really lucky thing is that it IS possible to be conscious of the
> spiritual forces in nature and to grow plants accordingly.
> This is what the Agriculture course is telling us apart from the obvious
> bits on how to make the preps.
> This is the REAl challenge I see put before us by Biodynamics.
> This is also be one of the HUGE differences between the BD buck turners
> and some other BD practioners. The BDAs seem to have a small
> appreciation of this need and difference however they do not seem to
> have or promote the skills necessary to make conscious spiritual
> perception a every day reality. So they sit on high and isolate quietly.
> cheers
> Glen
>
>
>
> --
> Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams
> See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
>
>




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was R e: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI

2002-02-27 Thread Hugh Lovel

James,

For sure dowsing is a big help.

Best,
Hugh




>Dear Hugh,
>Both Lloyd and I have found that the mixtures of reagents can change from
>day to day, let alone from year to year. As for dowsing it is an easily
>learnt skill as the participants at our dowsing workshops at "Sattwa Park"
>can testify to.
>How any body can use a field broadcaster without dowsing skills is beyond my
>comprehension
>Sincere regards
>James.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 1:01 PM
>Subject: Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re:
>Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI
>
>
>> Dear Glen, et. al.,
>>
>> Your post confirms what Lorraine has found. "Mixes are often specific for
>> the situation, time and weather circumstance."
>>
>> That's why we tailor our broadcaster reagents to each and every farm. And
>> change them at a minimum of every year. So what we have found is the
>> expertise rather than copying of remedies is the important thing. One has
>> to be able to tell (Lorraine does this by dowsing) what potency of each
>> remedy she puts on the reagent vials for our broadcasters. Commonly one
>> farm is quite different from another.
>>
>> Best,
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Hugh, Alan, Gil and Chris
>> >Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I see the value in Hugh and
>> >Alans approaches and will work with them and see what I can do with
>> >them.
>> >Gils comments on 'unknowing messing around' are true to a point however
>> >dowsing and a radionics box could do some wild things. The uniqueness I
>> >see is in the original mixing for a specific task.
>> >This was a question that needed to be asked publically for the community
>> >to consider.
>> >While I have made general mixes of things, with our 'personal clients'
>> >the mixes are most often specific for the situation, time and weather
>> >circumstance. These would be silly to generally copy.
>> >I am sure there is a way forward, just in a different direction to that
>> >already travelled and that imagined to be travelled. Sounds like another
>> >bit of 'life' taking place.
>> >cheers
>> >Glen
>> >
>> >
>> >Chris Shade wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Glen has a good point, and frankly, I was surprised
>> >> that Allan so openly suggested that.
>> >>
>> >> On the flip side, though, most people (who dont'
>> >> already make some of their own preps), won't be in a
>> >> position to make good copies of Glen and Greg's
>> >> potencies.  And if radionic theft is the issue, it
>> >> would have always been the issue with any prep.  You
>> >> just have to figure that your market is those who
>> >> aren't radionics or homeophath jockeys and who need
>> >> some good preps.
>> >>
>> >> Wishing you market protection and good will from your
>> >> community,
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> --- Glen Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > Allan Balliett wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > > A question I have for everyone is "Can't Greg's
>> >> > remedies be readily
>> >> > > propagated infinitely?" Since they are potentized,
>> >> > are they not now
>> >> > > the 'mother' for endless batches of equal remedy?
>> >> > I would think they
>> >> > > are, but I'd appreciate insights from you more
>> >> > experienced
>> >> > > potentizers. Myself, I assume that once you buy a
>> >> > unit from Greg, if
>> >> > > you don't spill it, you need never purchase
>> >> > another, but simply dose
>> >> > > your own units from that point on.
>> >> >
>> >> > This does not necessarily hold to be true. Firstly
>> >> > these are compounds
>> >> > which when further potentised can change their
>> >> > effectiveness and
>> >> > secondly potentising develops in waves and so
>> >> > further potentising can
>> >> > indeed make them less effective. We have definitely
>> >> > found that reducing
>> >> > the desired application rate leads to reduced
>> >> > effect. 'Stealing them'
>> >> > thru a radionics device, without changing the
>> >> > potency should work within
>> >> > that sphere I guess.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is an opportune moment to bring a thought to
>> >> > this discussion. With
>> >> > Greg and my potencies ( and thus our lives work)
>> >> > being 'potentially' so
>> >> > easily stolen from us, what incentive is there for
>> >> > us to continue
>> >> > working on furthering preparation applications. Why
>> >> > would we bother? and
>> >> > how are our overheads and life expenses to be
>> >> > covered by the community
>> >> > benefiting so freely from our work?
>> >> > in anticipation of the solution
>> >> > Glen
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> __
>> >> Do You Yahoo!?
>> >> Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games
>> >> http://sports.yahoo.com
>> >
>> >--
>> >Garuda Biodynamics - for BD Preps, Consultations, Books & Diagrams
>> >See our web site @ http://get.to/garuda
>>
>>




Re: BD 508 equesetum

2002-02-27 Thread Dave Robison

Response to a number of posts

1) I gather my own horsetail from the woods. Of course, at a garden scale, 
I only need a few handfulls, so a quart or so of dried herb is plenty. The 
North American species is not E. arevense, the European species, but it is 
very close. You want the species that have vegetative stalks (spore bearing 
stalks are produced separately in the early spring). Harvest the vegetative 
stalks and dry in about  June.

2) RS talks about horsetail 508 as "pushing back" the etheric when it is 
too tenuously dispersed. As opposed to oak bark 505 that "pulls back" the 
etheric. In both cases, this has an anti-fungus effect if the plant is 
suffering from fungal disease. I don't know what it does for a healthy 
plant, or actually for the fungus. Steve's observations are very interesting.

3) I have always thought of the prep as providing Si, but in fact, it's 
more complicated than that. Applied Biodynamics fall 1997 had the following 
table showing chemical analysis of two preps (wish they had data on more)

Concentration of trace minerals, mg/L or ppm
Element Valerian Horsetail
Ca  307 414
Fe  7.4 0.2
Mg  271 186
Mn  2.1 0.9
P   55  1116
K   2650888
Si  12  177
Na  3   2
S   144 560
Zn  5.6 0.1

Isn't this interesting? 508 has some Si as expected, but it's really high 
in P and S, and has fair amounts of Ca and K. Who would have expected that? 
Meanwhile valerian 507 has lots of K. Ghroman describes horsetail as really 
a Ca plant that has a lot of Si to balance out the Ca. So what horsetail 
provides is far more than merely Si.
Courtney and Kolisko point out that horsetail tea should be fermented for 
maximum activity. It gets pretty smelly when you do that, giving off H2S. 
Now we know why.


==
Dave Robison




"Sharp" Sand for potting mix

2002-02-27 Thread Allan Balliett

I'm going a little nutty right now, trying to learn a jargon so I can 
speak with people who are quite a drive from me and who really don't 
have the time to spoon feed the ignorant.

I'm looking to buy a few yards of 'crushed gravel sand' to use in a 
potting mix formulation recommended by Heinz Grotzke in "Biodynamic 
Greenhouse Management."

So far, I've been offered trap dust and 1/4inch (and lower) stuff 
from a realatively close-by quarry. If I can communicate screen size, 
I think I can buy what I need.

AND, I would assume that it's cool to take basalt instead of granite, eh?

Which is to say that I've found a source for basalt trap dust down 
here. My recollection is that it tests very highly on the Callahan 
scale (paramagnetics), but I'll have to have it tested again.

Thanks

_Allan




Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread Allan Balliett

>Tom:
>Maybe your example relates to the anti-fungal effect of those metals' trace
>elements on/in the soil.
>There is a French Hoe  sold locally which has an embedded copper disc which
>eventually would touch most of a cultivated garden. There has been mention
>made of a plow with the same feature.But , insects.i dunno

Are these still for sale? Please share contact info, if so.
I guess I'm more looking for bronze then copper, but what the hey, eh?

The theory behind this is that gardens were more lavish and more pest 
free  before iron and steel implements and tools were being used. Not 
only is iron supposed to be detrimental to life (would you store your 
preps in an iron pan?) but the bronze stuff was suppose to enhance 
life, when applied a molecule at a time.

Anyone who doubts that 'small doses' of the metals are being left 
within the soil should come and take a look at the spades on our 
Celli after one season's use!

-Allan




Re: Wired! Insect deterrents

2002-02-27 Thread Manfred Palmer

Tom:
Maybe your example relates to the anti-fungal effect of those metals' trace
elements on/in the soil.
There is a French Hoe  sold locally which has an embedded copper disc which
eventually would touch most of a cultivated garden. There has been mention
made of a plow with the same feature.But , insects.i dunno
...manfred
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Schley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: Wired! Insect deterrents


> Hi Folks,
> An acquaintance told me she's heard of people using very thin copper
> or silver wire to ward off insects and maybe other critters.  The
> wire is strung a few inches above the ground and runs up and down the
> garden rows.  Anyone heard of this?  What is the principle behind it?
> I assume it concentrates energy somehow that insects don't like.
> Since it doesn't seem to be very common it must have some drawbacks?
> Or is it just one of those magnificent ideas from the 1960s like
> smoking banana peels?
> -Tom
>




Re: [globalnews] The Seventh Fire: An Ancient Prophecy

2002-02-27 Thread Allan Balliett

>if their is interest I will post it to the list.

Sure, Steve, let it come down. -Allan




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies TestedAt UAI

2002-02-27 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Agri-Synthesis?  short-lived and overpriced? was Re:    Agri-Synthesis? Remedies Tested At   UAI





James you wrote:
>What we have found is that the
peppers need to be succussed after posting or if using diluted peppers they
need to be ran through flow forms to re-energise them after transport as the
radionic potencies sometimes get what I would call "sick" from travelling.<

May I suggest that you stabilize whole package with universal Love & Light with the intent of protection from radiations & "sickness". in 2 Gang language they are 53-28 & 12-22.
I bet it'll work well.

Love & Light
Markess





Re: [globalnews] The Seventh Fire: An Ancient Prophecy

2002-02-27 Thread Steven McFadden



> The Seventh Fire:
> An Ancient Prophecy


Thank you, Jane.  What a way to start this particular day!  I was able to
report on the teachings of the Seven Fires extensively in my book "Profiles
in Wisdom: Native Elders Speak About the Earth."  In the book Grandfather
William Commanda, 89, tells the tale in detail.  He is the Keeper of the
Seven Fires Wampum Belt, and Traditional Chief of, really, all the Algonquin
peoples.

William was here in Santa Fe about 2 weeks ago for a conference with other
elders, and so we got to spend the week together remembering the walk we
made together in 1995-95 -- walking in prayer from the Atlantic to the
Pacific over 8 months to "strike a spark" for the 8th Fire.  An amazing
pilgrimage - still going on in many ways.

Just yesterday I was up at Los Alamos with another band of pilgrims
(including 3 other people who were part of the 95-96 walk).  This time the
walk was carrying a flame - the Hiroshima Peace Flame, ignited 56 years ago
from the embers of the fire that resulted from the nuclear bomb dropped on
Hiroshima). It was an amazing (esoterically and exoterically ) day. The
flame returned to its source - the City of Fire.I will write a complete
report on the day as soon as I have a chance (perhaps over the weekend, or
early next week), and if their is interest I will post it to the list.

Megwiich, Steven

Steven McFadden
Chiron Communications
7 Avenida Vista Grande  #195
Santa Fe, NM 87508   USA
http://www.chiron-communications.com










Re: Need Help!!

2002-02-27 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Need Help!!



Wayne,
my 2 centavos = please pay attention to the advice given, it's very high quality as per usual!

But consider share cropping the forage/grass "as is".
Yes make strong agreements  as to cutting on wet earth but with hay equipment compaction is minimized. Your friend will be amazed at the market for "Organic Grass" bales - small, large & round. And your composting & a zillion other uses for bales will be provided for.
One reason I suggest this is that in my experience & communications with Diva's and the Land is that they love to work. As you know from the Perelandra work we as stewards need to set the agenda & clear concise intents & then co-create with Nature to handle it's part. 'May Nature and/or Nurture support be provided as needed and/or beneficial. This is to continue for whatever length and duration is appropriate. Thank You!'

In Love & Light
Markess








Fw: [globalnews] The Seventh Fire: An Ancient Prophecy

2002-02-27 Thread jsherry

The Seventh Fire:
An Ancient Prophecy
from the Ojibwe Tradition
http://www.omplace.com/articles/Seventh_Fire.html
by Allen Aslan Heart/White Eagle Soaring
Ojibwe/Abenaki artist, teacher, healer, and writer

Over one thousand years ago seven prophets came to my
people while they still lived on the shores of the Atlantic Ocean.
They said it was necessary that the people leave their homeland
and seek a new home in the unknown wilderness of the setting
sun. If they did not, the people and their way of life would be
destroyed and they would be scattered. They were told to follow
the Great River west and look for an island in the shape of a
turtle and the food that grows on water. They were told of the
dangers and difficulties of their journey and of dreams that would
show them the way. They were told of Great Lakes and
Thundering Falls, of the coming of a light-skinned race, how their
culture would be torn apart as some would leave the path of
spirit to follow the way of the mind.

The Seventh Prophet was different from the others. He was
younger and light seemed to shine from his eyes. He said that
there would come a time when the fish could no longer live in the
water and the air would begin to lose its power of life. Then the
water drum would sound once again and the ancient stories
would be returned to the people. Lead by the power of wisdom
and the gentleness of compassion, a new people would rise up
and offer to the light-skinned race the path of spirit.

This new people would offer them a way to live according to the Original
Instructions to love, honor, and respect all beings in the Web of Life, to
walk in balance and harmony on the Good Red Road. If this offer were to be
accepted, a new and final age of unimaginable beauty,
cooperation and love would arrive. If this offer were to be refused,
the destructiveness of the light-skinned race would turn back on
them to destroy them. Only by following the path of spirit will we
find our true potential as human beings.

I first heard of the Prophecy of the Seventh Fire fifteen years ago,
from an Ojibwe teacher and activist. Nice legend, I thought,
although I didn't see how it had anything to do with my life. I
didn't plan to weave dream catchers and tell their stories, either.

But Spirit has a way of grabbing your attention sometimes,
doesn't it? Still, I thought I was just a white man doing "Indian"
things until, at a family reunion, my elders let it slip that maybe I
was doing this "Indian" stuff because Grandma Bertha was
Indian. I was Indian!

The next year I was honored for my teaching and weaving at a powwow at the
Rediscovery Center on the White Earth Indian Reservation in Minnesota! In
the next five years I would market these unique natural dream catchers and
their stories of wisdom to museums shops, art galleries, and retail stores
from Seattle and San Diego to Berlin and Vienna, and teach over 5,000 people
how to weave dream catchers from
San Diego to Slovenia. I taught over 5,000 schoolchildren about
dream catchers, including the children of UN diplomats at the
American International School in Vienna.

One morning in Denver, Colorado, I awakened with these words
ringing through my head: "You are a Dream Dancer. Dance a
new dream for the people."

A year later, visiting my friend Josephine, an elder on the White Earth
Indian Reservation, I found that the Ojibwe have an ancient tradition of the
Dream Dance and Dream Dancers. I had given Josephine a box of my
books about dream catchers that she could sell to raise funds to buy another
set of Ojibwe language audiocassettes for the reservation. Upon returning to
Minneapolis to clear out my storage locker prior to returning to Europe, I
found on the floor a small blue brochure that told of the Seventh Fire. It
told the story of the Red Eagle of Dawn, of the Turtle who had offered his
back upon which to build an island, of the Great Bear of the North who holds
the water in snow and ice so the earth can never again be covered with
water.

Three months earlier Indian people had given me three necklaces to wear: the
Red Eagle of Dawn, the Turtle, and a claw of the Bear. And I had just
returned the stories to the people. Now the stories are on the Internet at
www.the7thfire.com for all the world to see.

I don't remember signing up for this. I thought I was just creating
dream catchers and telling stories. Then I realized that the Seven
Prophets were telling their wisdom through the art and design of
my dream catchers and the stories. The stories point toward a
new paradigm: the path of spirit.

The way of the mind has lead repeatedly to wars, conquest, domination,
exploitation, pollution, and misery. Those who follow this destructive path
operate out of a lust for power, selfishness, and greed. It is not a path of
love, honor, and respect. The air and waters of the Earth are polluted, the
water drum has sounded and the stories have been returned
to the people.

Now is the time of the Seventh Fire. We've hea

Re: Need Help!!

2002-02-27 Thread Lloyd Charles


Original Message From: Wayne and Sharon McEachern
In reply Allan asked
 AND what else is in that broadcaster ??

Hi Wayne - do we assume that you have been putting the BD remedies out in
the broadcaster?? Hopefully before and after the lime treatment. If not it
seems a waste of a good opportunity.

Regarding the sharecropping with friend I would suggest that you get Arden
Andersen's book  "Science in Agriculture"  and both of you read it. Your
scientific friend could easily mess up (probably will) trying to go organic
on old pasture land with its huge weed seed population. The eco farmer
approach may be enough to get him off the hook without doing a lot of damage
to your land. There are some excellent tactics which are non toxic but not
politically correct organically. F'r instance I have seen (done it) weed
control almost as good as toxic herbicides, using a mixture of calcium
nitrate and molasses after seeding  - 2 kg + 4 litres / ha in water. There
are many other things that can be done to get a decent result for both of
you without doing damage to the soil. Believe me you do NOT want this guy
putting atrazine out!
Take care
Lloyd Charles




Re: Need Help!!

2002-02-27 Thread Virginia Salares

for clarification, the pesticide was SEVIN, not SEVEN???
- Original Message -
From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Need Help!!


> >You know how it is when you work scientific -- you have your fields
> >herbicided, then, you no till in what you wish and throw the nitrogen to
it.
> >So, he is wondering how much work he will need to put into the fields
doing
> >things our way -- and what can he expect in the crops.  For instance, the
> >corn -- it will have weeds -- or grasses -- no herbicides.  With little
to no
> >inputs over the years -- and the FB running for little over a year --
might
> >we expect good crops.
>
> wayne - I actually entered into a scenario like this at this time
> last year. My goal was to roll the agro-chemical no-till farmer who
> was leasing this land at the time that it became an enironmental
> preserve into a prosperous biological farmer. Only after a few
> conversations with him did I come to understand how distant his sense
> of the land was and how foreign actually interacting with the
> environment was for him. Even more to the point, he totally lacked
> the inner voice that we organic growers have, the one that keeps you
> in service to principle rather than in service to
> the-normal-american-factory-time-reality. Eventually, he gave up. He
> did give up before I did, but he gave up.
>
> I'm told that Mid-West Bioag and some other ACRES-found consulting
> companies have programs that make sense to chemical farmers. They
> even have ways of letting them use their 'chemical boxes' to let down
> some biological amendments.
>
> I rented a house to a fellow who was totally onboard with me as far
> as keeping the grounds biodynamic. I heard stories about him using
> Seven, but discounted them. Later, I found his chemical stash. He was
> putting shit down for diseases I've never heard of and from companies
> I've never seen before. Another neighbor told me that she always grew
> everything organically. (See 'Organic Horse Manure' says the bag) She
> dosed everything with SEVEN. When I asked her about that she said
> 'Well, you don't expect me to live with BUGS, do you?" My point here
> is that it's really different world's.
>
> By the way, as a spiritual scientist, I guess I'm offended by your
> use  of the word 'scientific agriculture,' eh?
>
> Later
>