Re: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
I've used 501 in glashouses on tomato plants. The fruit flavours were much
improved.
   Much the same rules apply as those for outdoor plants; look
at leaf form. If it is round and juicy 501 is helpful provided the other
preparations are still active. If the plant has smaller, pointy leaves with
more pronounced serations, preparations from the 500 end of the spectrum are
called for, and or a feed.
Peter.


 What sort of experiences have you (anyone) had with using 501 in a
  greenhouse? I think that Grotzke advised that it is too strong for
  use in a greenhouse. (?) For this reason, I have held off using it.
  First outbreak of aphids makes me think of using it. I think heinz
  mentioned a residual and a generalized effect that henceforth makes
  the house uncomfortable for seedlings.
 
 
  But, what is you life experience?
 
  Thanks
 
  -Allan



Re: Gary Zimmer, Jerry Brunetti on the OZ/NZ Three-Up Tour

2003-03-17 Thread Gil Robertson




You can easily too "organic" and not hold nutriants or moisture. A small
amount of clay may help.

Gil

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
send me your "albrecht" soil testsand quite a bit of interesting
talk can be had, but the report can not tell you much about soil stucture.
 





Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils

2003-03-17 Thread James Hedley
Dear Tony,
thank you very much for your information. I downloaded Rex Harrill's page
and David von Pein.
Now all that I have to do now is to make time to plow through it.
If you have any further information will be most grateful to receive it.
Kindest regards
James


- Original Message -
From: Rambler Flowers LTD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils



 - Original Message -
 From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 . Vitality of the soil seems to not get coverage on
  BDnow.
  Maybe one of the reasons is that until I started to research this
concept
 I
  had never heard of vitality as being measurable parameter of soil. I
write
  this in the hope that some of you who have experience of Reams
techniques
  may be able to enlighten me, or head me in the direction of further
areas
 of
  study of his methods.
 

 I James I have enjoyed studding  and putting into practice the Reams
method
 of testing soils,composts, liquid  sprays, weeds and plant on a weekly
basis
 to be able to grow plants with out weed ,pests and disease. Reams  talks
 about energy within the above and how to get it in balance that will
enhance
 optimum plant growth. I feel with in myself that there is a link between
 energy and vitality.
  As I am not a particularly good at writing about these things I have
posted
 below  information that I have collected about this  subject .This coming
 winter I  hope to study  some of Carey Reams books. A friend is going to
 lend them to me as they are out of print


 Philip Wheeler's book The  Non-Toxic Farming  Handbook is the best book I
 have read .
 Other books are
 Science In Agriculture, Dr Arden BE Andersen
 Mainline Farming for the 21st Century, Dr Dan Skow
 All found at the Acres USA site
 http://www.acresusa.com
  Each of these author have a different slant on the subject.

 A VISIT to this web site will give you a very good  edited background to
 working with the Albrecht Model. http://www.healthyag.com/index2.html
 I will soon be purchasing Mr Jones books his work as been recommended to
me
 by  Cheryl  .His work is very user friendly.
  99

 The Brix man  Rex Harrill
 www.brixpage.com
 www.crossroads.ws/brixbook/BBook.htm (Rex Harrill's booklet)



 Pike Labs  Good background material here
  http://www.pikeagri.com/tissuetest.html


 The Meter Man - David von Pein
 http://www.themeterman.com.au

 This guy can talk for hours on the subject . He recons  soil can be turned
 around in about 3years
 I found him very helpful.

  James  I do have a number of emails from this list on the subject if you
 are interested I could send them  offline

 I hope this is of  assistance
 Best Regards
 Tony Robinson
  New Zealand Down Under






Dr DeMeo's comments on Chemtrails/Chembusters

2003-03-17 Thread Allan Balliett
Dr DeMeo does not have the time to commit to joining BD Now! but is 
open to responding to more questions/comments that appear on BD Now! 
regarding atmospheric manipulation.-Allan

Status:  U
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:51:22 -0800
To: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: James DeMeo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: COMMENTS? Fwd: Re: Cloudbusters
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Hi Allan,

Thanks for forwarding the email item on chemtrails/chembusters, with the
request for a comment.  Here's my short reply.
I had seen Mr. Constable's essays at Rense.com, but not the follow-up
materials you supplied. You maybe know my paper So You Want to Build a
Cloudbuster, circulated since 1986 as a warning to irresponsible
weather-manipulation, so I am glad to learn Constable has added his voice
in this direction.  I've also previously addressed the problem of
chembusters and chemtrail theory, and so have nothing more to add
beyond what I've already written on the matter, at these web pages:
http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

http://www.orgonelab.org/chemtrails.htm

Anyone interested in the facts about my own 30+ years of research on the
subject of Reich's discoveries can review my publications at:
http://www.orgonelab.org/demeopubs.htm

and the various articles in our Pulse of the Planet journal continue to be
available.
http://www.orgonelab.org/xpulse.htm

Attached below is our most recent Newsletter, with additional information.

It is important to keep clear and separate Reich's original discoveries,
that which has been validated by objective measures and controlled
experiments, versus purely speculative claims, without such support.  His
discoveries are very important for our small planet, if we wish for a
better future, and so caution and clarity are demanded from honestly
concerned people.
And for the record, my criticisms of Mr. Croft's ideas and scheme to sell
chembusters like dish-soap were made openly to him, and in the light of
day, with nothing said or done behind the back, or in a concealed manner.
He knows about my criticisms because I made them directly to him and
several of his followers, and later posted the materials to my website so
that I would not have to be repeating myself all the time.  By contrast, I
am informed from persons on his own email group at Yahoo, open criticisms
or discussions of the issues raised in my critique several years ago are
forbidden and censored out, with persons who raise such issues being thrown
off his list.  If there was any objective evidence to support all the
various claims being made, anything substantial which could stand up under
even mild scientific criticism, I would be open to the ideas.  As discussed
in my website paper, that's not the case.
Circulate this to whomever you wish.

Kind regards,

James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, Orgone Biophysical Research Lab
PO Box 1148
Ashland, Oregon 97520
http://www.orgonelab.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OBRL-Newsletter

To: Various Contacts, Students and Professionals with Interests in Wilhelm
Reich's Discoveries, Including Correspondents on Gentle-Childbirth, AIDS
criticism, Living Water (Schauberger), Subtle-Energies and Ether-Physics.
Information of Scientific Interest, from James DeMeo, Ph.D., and the
Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory, Greensprings Center, Ashland, Oregon.
This is the infrequent version of our OBRL-Newsletter (~quarterly).
March 2003

Five topical notices below:

1.  Greensprings Interdisciplinary Seminars 2003: Summer Educational Events
at OBRL
2.  Reminder on availability of our new publication: Heretic's Notebook:
Emotions, Protocells, Ether-Drift and Cosmic Life Energy, with New Research
Supporting Wilhelm Reich
3.  A major new Bibliography on Orgonomy (the science of life-energy
functions in nature), and two new Press Release Articles, now posted to
the OBRL Internet site.
4.  New Life-Energy Field Meter nearing completion.

5.  Information on our more frequent OBRL-News-Bulletin at Yahoo groups.

Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups

**

1.  Announcing: Greensprings Seminars 2003

Summer 2003 Educational Events

Full Details at:
http://www.orgonelab.org/events.htm
* 26-27 July (Saturday-Sunday):
Seminar on Saharasia: Primitive Peaceful Societies and
the Origins of Violence: Evidence from Cross-Cultural
Anthropological and recent Archaeological Findings.
Instructor: James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Subjects: Gentle Childbirth, Mass Psychology of Fascism, Origins of Human
Armoring, Discussions from Dr. DeMeo's book Saharasia: The 4000 BCE
Origins of Child-Abuse, Sex-Repression, Warfare and Social Violence, In the
Deserts of the Old World.
* 2-3 August (Saturday-Sunday):
Bions, Biogenesis and the Reich Blood Test:
Introductory Microscopy Laboratory Seminar
Instructors: Richard Blasband, MD, James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Subjects: Origins of Life, Pleomorphism, 

Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread SBruno75
Thirty Meteres???  Tell them that window cleaners on Manhattan skyscrapers 
were pelted with a substance up on there scaffolding.  When collected and 
analyzed turned out to be wheat chaff...sstorch



Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Allan Balliett
Thirty Meteres???  Tell them that window cleaners on Manhattan skyscrapers
were pelted with a substance up on there scaffolding.  When collected and
analyzed turned out to be wheat chaff...sstorch
I bet it was grist from the great Wall Street mill...



trying to contact...

2003-03-17 Thread Bonnie York
Eve,

Please get in touch with me directly. I have no e-mail address for you, 
so I can't send you the information you were interested in concerning 
my toastntea website.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bonnie



Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Eric Myren
Glad you gentlemen got a giggle! Sooner than not you gents will be 
passing the torch along to people in my age group (early 30's) and we 
will have to deal with this GARBAGE more than you. I just feel that it 
is possible to head them off at the pass. In Canada we were able to 
keep Monsanto's Bovine Growth Hormone out of our milk supply. who 
knows maybe our wheat fields too. There is one thing on our side, the 
Canadian Justice Department is completely aware of the contamination of 
Canola fields, with the Round-Up and Liberty genes (Where the farmers 
had never sown any). For a government dept. to become AWARE it must 
mean something... I have a downloaded copy of this report if anyone 
wants it?

Yah never know unless unless yah all try eh...
Eric
A Peaceful Fanatic
P.S. What is it that the Great Wall Street Mill is always churning 
out?.Phoney Money!

On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 06:06 AM, Allan Balliett wrote:

Thirty Meteres???  Tell them that window cleaners on Manhattan 
skyscrapers
were pelted with a substance up on there scaffolding.  When collected 
and
analyzed turned out to be wheat chaff...sstorch
I bet it was grist from the great Wall Street mill...




Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Alberto Machado
  Allan

Percy Shemeiser was at meeting in USA where I met him , and
also he came do the Social Forum , last month , here in Brasil , his story
is icredible http://www.percyschmeiser.com/ and http://nelsonfarm.net/.

God be with you all , Alberto

-Mensagem original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
nome de Eric Myren
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 17 de marco de 2003 11:57
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assunto: Re: Monsanto's Wheat


Glad you gentlemen got a giggle! Sooner than not you gents will be
passing the torch along to people in my age group (early 30's) and we
will have to deal with this GARBAGE more than you. I just feel that it
is possible to head them off at the pass. In Canada we were able to
keep Monsanto's Bovine Growth Hormone out of our milk supply. who
knows maybe our wheat fields too. There is one thing on our side, the
Canadian Justice Department is completely aware of the contamination of
Canola fields, with the Round-Up and Liberty genes (Where the farmers
had never sown any). For a government dept. to become AWARE it must
mean something... I have a downloaded copy of this report if anyone
wants it?


Yah never know unless unless yah all try eh...
Eric
A Peaceful Fanatic
P.S. What is it that the Great Wall Street Mill is always churning
out?.Phoney Money!

On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 06:06 AM, Allan Balliett wrote:

 Thirty Meteres???  Tell them that window cleaners on Manhattan
 skyscrapers
 were pelted with a substance up on there scaffolding.  When collected
 and
 analyzed turned out to be wheat chaff...sstorch

 I bet it was grist from the great Wall Street mill...





Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Nancy Geffken
The Council of Canadians organized a speaker tour in the western provinces to rally 
support against GM wheat. The tour ran from late Feb. through last week, but no news 
of it here in the east (where we only care about potatoes). Did anyone (Eric?) attend 
any of these meetings?

It seems to me the GM cat is out of the bag, pollution-wise, and people will be forced 
into a further compromised definition of organic (re: acceptable amount of 
contamination).

Nancy G.

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RE: Fred K on the Future of Agrarianism

2003-03-17 Thread Nancy Geffken
Very interesting article by Kirschenmann, but what jumped out at me was this 
inconceivable proposition by S. Blank to rid the country of agriculture! Just when you 
think you've heard it all ...

It's on par with Milton Friedman last week calling for legalization of insider 
trading. 

Nancy G.




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Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Eric Myren
As far as I understand the issue in regards to GM Wheat it is not to 
late. Monsanto is trying to go through the regulatory hoops now. They 
do not have permission from any one, to do any planting of GM Wheat.
The game is over for Canola however. I did not know about the anti GM 
meetings. Although you know we do have to remember that we are saving 
seeds, to be as genetically pure as possible for the future. It is just 
that we have to deal with the here and NOW in regards to this issue. 
Many farmers have lost a lot of money because of the EU's embargo 
against Canola. Believe it or not but there is a general ground swell 
of support  against Monsanto because they rightly so have taken the 
blame for the embargo.

Peace
Eric
On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Nancy Geffken wrote:

The Council of Canadians organized a speaker tour in the western 
provinces to rally support against GM wheat. The tour ran from late 
Feb. through last week, but no news of it here in the east (where we 
only care about potatoes). Did anyone (Eric?) attend any of these 
meetings?

It seems to me the GM cat is out of the bag, pollution-wise, and 
people will be forced into a further compromised definition of organic 
(re: acceptable amount of contamination).

Nancy G.

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Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Diver
Here's a link to a very interesting article from Reuters
news service, published March 17th.

http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNewsstoryID=2392191

And Now for the Weather, Aboriginal Style
Mon March 17, 2003 09:52 AM ET
By Michael Perry

SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) - When the bearded dragon
lizard sits upright and points its head to the sky, it is going to
rain the next day. If a flock of currawongs flies overhead, you
have four hours to get the washing off the line.

If the queen wattle blooms heavily, bull ants abandon their tree
nests for mounds of dirt, or meat ants cover nests with tiny,
heat-reflecting quartz stones, then bushfires are coming.

etc

Excerpts:

Australia's Bureau of Meteorology draws upon
Aboriginal weather knowledge... launches
Indigenous Weather Knowledge...
http://www.bom.gov.au/iwk/

Sydney's six-season Aboriginal calendar is based on the
flowering of various native plants [details provided]

Insightful observations on drought cycles

+

When you go to the Indigenous Weather Knowledge
website and look around, you come across the Yanyuwa's
five season calendar.  I like these circular calendars
showing when things occur at different times of the year,
accompanied by related phenological events.

http://sres.anu.edu.au/people/richard_baker/research/yanyuwa/trop_climate.html

http://sres.anu.edu.au/people/richard_baker/research/yanyuwa/images/figure_02.gif

Regards,
Steve Diver




Re: Monsanto's Wheat

2003-03-17 Thread Lloyd Charles

From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monsanto's Wheat


 The  post I sent about the Saskatchewan Organic directorate was meant
 as information, I came across while on the net. about Monsanto's GM
 Wheat and what one group of farmers are in Canada is doing about the
 problem. Saskatchewan is a huge province, the main crop is wheat and
 many consider it to be the bread basket of the world. These people are
 at the forefront of the fight.

 do what you can locally this must be stopped
 I know I sound like a fanatic

No way - Eric you sound like a farmer thats THINKING, they are thin on the
ground at the moment . I guess as an Aussie grain farmer I should be
temporarily pleased if canada gets gmo wheat except that shortly after we
will also fall into the trap. If your industry goes that way we in Australia
will enjoy a temporary bonus of an increase in price of anywhere from 20 to
50 dollars a ton until they get us contaminated too. This happened with
canola but the party is almost over, commercial gmo release going ahead in
victoria and probably west australia if not this season then next will see
canola prices to aussie farmers retreat by 50 bucks a ton BACK TO the same
A$/C$ relationship that we had before this crap all started. Farmers are not
doing their sums ! In Aus you would have to get at least a 30% yield
increase from GMO canola just to square the books on extra cost of growing
the stuff - we all know thats impossible, but the farmers are treading the
path to destruction like a mob of sheep - following the one in front for no
good reason except that he already made a track.  I see wheat as a more
difficult sell for the companies but I guess they hope they will get enough
out there to
contaminate seed supplies and the courts will do the rest.


Lloyd Charles





Re: GAIA

2003-03-17 Thread SRC
Dear Tim:

--- Spiritual Renaissance Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have thoughts on the Gaia Hypothesis?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Timothy H.
 
 In the 1970s the British scientist James Lovelock formulated the Gaia
 hypothesis, which has attracted many followers. According to this
 theory, named after the Greek goddess of the earth, the planet behaves
 like a single living organism. Lovelock postulated that the earth, like
 many organisms, can regulate its temperature, dispose of its wastes, and
 fight off disease. Although the Gaia hypothesis serves as a convenient
 metaphor for the interconnections among living beings, it does not have
 any particular scientific merit.

Sure.   The Earth _is_ a living organism; a spiritual being (as are all
beings) whose body is the planet.  If the Gaia hypothesis does not have
any scientific merit, that just shows how far into materialistic
superstition modern science has descended.  Willful ignorance sums it up,
in my opinion, since there's more than enough evidence from simple
observation of life's own processes, as we live them.  For instance, since
_we_ are alive, and we are so much part of the Earth and everything else
that is alive upon and within it, the Earth is, ipso facto, alive.

Best Wishes,

Stephen
 


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Re: Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

2003-03-17 Thread Lloyd Charles

 And Now for the Weather, Aboriginal Style
 Mon March 17, 2003 09:52 AM ET
 By Michael Perry

 SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) - When the bearded dragon
 lizard sits upright and points its head to the sky, it is going to
 rain the next day. If a flock of currawongs flies overhead, you
 have four hours to get the washing off the line.

Hi Steve and All
 I would take this stuff with a grain or two of salt - the lizard sits like
that to warm himself - its his favourite posture - sitting on a sloping
rock - as for the currawongs if you dont get the washing in pronto when you
see these guys they will be back soon to poop all over it and steal the
clothespegs! It might rain and it might not.
The northern aboriginal stuff is nothing more or less than you would get
from interviewing any stockman or knockabout bushie with some life
experience in the territory - I guess I am always amused when educated dudes
go out and discover things that most locals take as common knowledge, (and
anything of aboriginal culture has a nice money tag on it these days)
We all watch the ants - these little guys know a thing or two.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles




Re: Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Diver
Lloyd -

Still, I love this stuff and I'm glad to see the
website to learn about Aboriginal knowledge.

50,000 years of sustainable living, that's going back
in time.

Phenology has many uses -- including pest control,
organic farming cycles, and permaculture design -- so
I've collected a lot of material on this topic.

Phenology Web Links: (1) Sequence of Bloom, Floral Calendars,
What's in Bloom; (2) Birds, Bees, Insects  Weeds
http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/phenology.html

Here in the Ozarks, Spring bloom just started
into full-action this last week:

Early daffodils
Creeping phlox
Star magnolia
Periwinkle ground cover
Spring beauty
Crocus

I'd like to find software that makes those circular
calendars with accompanying text, if anybody has ideas.

These circular agricultural calendars help illustrate
when you plant cover crops, till, apply BD preps,
sow, cultivate for weeds, foliar feed, pinch buds,
expect certain pests, harvest period, re-establish
into cover crop, rotation sequence, etc.

Best,
Steve Diver


Lloyd Charles wrote:

  And Now for the Weather, Aboriginal Style
  Mon March 17, 2003 09:52 AM ET
  By Michael Perry
 
  SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) - When the bearded dragon
  lizard sits upright and points its head to the sky, it is going to
  rain the next day. If a flock of currawongs flies overhead, you
  have four hours to get the washing off the line.
 
 Hi Steve and All
  I would take this stuff with a grain or two of salt - the lizard sits like
 that to warm himself - its his favourite posture - sitting on a sloping
 rock - as for the currawongs if you dont get the washing in pronto when you
 see these guys they will be back soon to poop all over it and steal the
 clothespegs! It might rain and it might not.
 The northern aboriginal stuff is nothing more or less than you would get
 from interviewing any stockman or knockabout bushie with some life
 experience in the territory - I guess I am always amused when educated dudes
 go out and discover things that most locals take as common knowledge, (and
 anything of aboriginal culture has a nice money tag on it these days)
 We all watch the ants - these little guys know a thing or two.
 Cheers
 Lloyd Charles



Re: GAIA

2003-03-17 Thread Garuda
While James Lovelock did recant his hypothesis to regain some standing in
the scientific community he then restated it again
GA




- Original Message -
From: Spiritual Renaissance Center [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: BDNOW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: GAIA


 Does anyone have thoughts on the Gaia Hypothesis?

 Thanks.

 Timothy H.

 In the 1970s the British scientist James Lovelock formulated the Gaia
 hypothesis, which has attracted many followers. According to this
 theory, named after the Greek goddess of the earth, the planet behaves
 like a single living organism. Lovelock postulated that the earth, like
 many organisms, can regulate its temperature, dispose of its wastes, and
 fight off disease. Although the Gaia hypothesis serves as a convenient
 metaphor for the interconnections among living beings, it does not have
 any particular scientific merit.




Re: Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

2003-03-17 Thread Domenic . Blefari

Hi Steve,

I am also fascinated by Aboriginal knowledge and wisdom. Thanks for
highlighting the article and web sites. I also agree we must be aware of
the commercialisation component but I think its wonderful that this
information is finally being put together on the Web and made available to
us modern folk.

I have some notes on Aboriginal Astrology that I can send to you if you
wish.

Regards,
Dom




Steve Diver [EMAIL PROTECTED]@envirolink.org on 18/03/2003 08:59:29

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:

Subject:Re: Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

Lloyd -

Still, I love this stuff and I'm glad to see the
website to learn about Aboriginal knowledge.

50,000 years of sustainable living, that's going back
in time.

Phenology has many uses -- including pest control,
organic farming cycles, and permaculture design -- so
I've collected a lot of material on this topic.

Phenology Web Links: (1) Sequence of Bloom, Floral Calendars,
What's in Bloom; (2) Birds, Bees, Insects  Weeds
http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/phenology.html

Here in the Ozarks, Spring bloom just started
into full-action this last week:

Early daffodils
Creeping phlox
Star magnolia
Periwinkle ground cover
Spring beauty
Crocus

I'd like to find software that makes those circular
calendars with accompanying text, if anybody has ideas.

These circular agricultural calendars help illustrate
when you plant cover crops, till, apply BD preps,
sow, cultivate for weeds, foliar feed, pinch buds,
expect certain pests, harvest period, re-establish
into cover crop, rotation sequence, etc.

Best,
Steve Diver


Lloyd Charles wrote:

  And Now for the Weather, Aboriginal Style
  Mon March 17, 2003 09:52 AM ET
  By Michael Perry
 
  SYDNEY, Australia (Reuters) - When the bearded dragon
  lizard sits upright and points its head to the sky, it is going to
  rain the next day. If a flock of currawongs flies overhead, you
  have four hours to get the washing off the line.
 
 Hi Steve and All
  I would take this stuff with a grain or two of salt - the lizard sits
like
 that to warm himself - its his favourite posture - sitting on a sloping
 rock - as for the currawongs if you dont get the washing in pronto when
you
 see these guys they will be back soon to poop all over it and steal the
 clothespegs! It might rain and it might not.
 The northern aboriginal stuff is nothing more or less than you would get
 from interviewing any stockman or knockabout bushie with some life
 experience in the territory - I guess I am always amused when educated
dudes
 go out and discover things that most locals take as common knowledge,
(and
 anything of aboriginal culture has a nice money tag on it these days)
 We all watch the ants - these little guys know a thing or two.
 Cheers
 Lloyd Charles









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Re: GAIA

2003-03-17 Thread Eric Myren
This is just a personal belief and may not be Anthroposophical in 
nature.
The Earth's soul appears to mirror that of our own.

Peace
Eric
On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Garuda wrote:

While James Lovelock did recant his hypothesis to regain some standing 
in
the scientific community he then restated it again
GA



- Original Message -
From: Spiritual Renaissance Center [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: BDNOW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:54 PM
Subject: GAIA

Does anyone have thoughts on the Gaia Hypothesis?

Thanks.

Timothy H.

In the 1970s the British scientist James Lovelock formulated the Gaia
hypothesis, which has attracted many followers. According to this
theory, named after the Greek goddess of the earth, the planet behaves
like a single living organism. Lovelock postulated that the earth, 
like
many organisms, can regulate its temperature, dispose of its wastes, 
and
fight off disease. Although the Gaia hypothesis serves as a convenient
metaphor for the interconnections among living beings, it does not 
have
any particular scientific merit.





Hugh Steve

2003-03-17 Thread shu chan
When is a good time to fax the chembuster plans? I think I got a few pages through to Steve and could not connect to Hugh. We are in and out through the day, working away from the phone, so I need a time, maybe adjusted for MST, we are in NM.
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Re: Hugh Steve #2

2003-03-17 Thread shu chan

shu chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When is a good time to fax the chembuster plans? I think I got a few pages through to Steve and could not connect to Hugh. We are in and out through the day, working away from the phone, so I need a time, maybe adjusted for MST, we are in NM.
Dwayne<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The website that has the plans: http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bp/16/cloudbuster.htm
I checked it out tonight and it is still active. If you can access it, maybe easier or let me know and I will fax them.
Dwayne<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: Phenology and Weather, Aboriginal style

2003-03-17 Thread Lloyd Charles


 50,000 years of sustainable living, that's going back
 in time.

Hi Steve and Dom
I guess I just have a different opinion about what 5 years of
indiscriminate use of the firestick has done to the vegetation of this
continent.
 L Charles.




Re: Hugh Steve

2003-03-17 Thread Hugh Lovel

When  is a good time to fax the chembuster plans? I think I got a few pages through to Steve and could not connect to Hugh. We are in and out through the day, working away from the phone, so I need a time, maybe adjusted for MST, we are in NM.

Dwayne



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Dwayne,

Just about any time suits me.

Hugh
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