Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Resonant Info wrote: Roger, I can relate it to a mathematical law. Sometimes we take the equation that describes some aspect of an observation as the thing in itself. Does the equation or the relation (not the formula, as written of course) have any meaningful existence, any relevance, without its manifestation? It is an interesting question isn't it? I understand what you refer to below simply as potential energy. Is there any gravity, for example, without matter? You could say that without matter there is no gravity and you'd be right. But you could also say the that gravity exists even if there is no matter and that would be correct too. The first statement is about the actual observable world, the second is about the conceptual world, and that is the difference. Hey, I'm no mathematician - I have enough trouble as it is with 2 + 2 = 5 :) I think we humans have a propensity for making things as complicated as we can. Forget the maths - dare I say 'forget the science' also? Go to high ground where you can look down on a wide expanse of woodland or forest. Study it as a whole thing not as individual trees. I am willing to bet you will find (within the totality) arcs of trees which have a twist or a lean towards or away from you. If you have the instruments, draw it all up as a chart or diagram, taking account of the scale you are using and which way is north. Draw lines on the chart from the leaning trees in the direction of the lean. If the lines from the trees in any arc do not meet at a central point I would be very surprised. Let us assume they do meet at a central point. There you would find a natural energy vortex. With dowsing abilities you would be able to determine the direction, polarity and strength of the energies spiralling down into the earth, and calculate the surface distance affected by the vortex - that is, the furthest distance the energies are being drawn from. If you leave the vortex as it is, ultimately the passage of the energies towards it will twist the trees to destruction. Of course it might take the lifetime of the trees to accomplish this. It will also affect boulders - I can show you photos of boulders which have 'channels' cut into them which I believe to have been caused by the passage of energies over thousands of years let alone the lifetime of a tree. If changing the vortex will not harm anything, or if leaving it alone will create a life-threatening situation (as it might if a stone or wooden dwelling is in the line of energies) then (depending on the type of vortex) people who have an ability to do so can reverse the direction of energy flow (making the energies spiral out instead of in), or stop the flow completely, or move the vortex somewhere else. In reality, these are little different to eliminating or moving whirlpools by changing the directional flow of water. It is simply the 'substance' which is different. Read James Lovelock's books on Gaia - our living planet. In at least one he makes reference to any free energy flow of a certain magnitude having the ability to create whirlpools (water) and eddies (winds). All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. Drive down any highway that has constant traffic and study the trees which line its sides - the Kings Highway from Canberra to the coast is an excellent example, particularly between Queanbeyan and Bungendore - the majority of these trees are twisted way beyond recovery, are grotesque in their appearance. The irony - and the saddest thing of all - is that eventually the local authority will come along and fell the trees, citing their 'disease' as the reason, will plant replacements which will gradually emulate their predecessors, and have to go through the whole performance again in a relatively short space of time. If you know the natural energy flows on your own place, you can exercise greater control of what will or will not grow, and where and when. Roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
So I very much support the wish that we who are experimenting with radionics can and will learn from out mistakes. The mistakes are manifold and the learning process is rather slow, though it does seem to be incremental. It is important that we honestly and publicly acknowledge and discuss these mistakes. While it may seem embarassing, it is a sign of egoic maturity when we publically acknowledge our mistakes. You might take a second look at any political figures who do this sort of thing, as it is as much needed as it is rare. Anyway, let us please not fall into such traps as labling radionic preps as not real or invalidating the primary making of preps as unnecessary. Either of these partisan views tends to create divisions. What we need instead is an open forum for sharing what we know--something we can rely upon our governments not to do from time to time and case to case. Regards, Hugh Dear Hugh Thanks for your calming sentiments - I have mostly tried to restrain myself from these kind of debates - radionics vs the other - I find it counterproductive in most cases (negative energy I reckon, or negative use of energy). Occasionally the temptation gets too great and I fall back in the hole again! Ah well - guess we learn a little each time. Hope you are enjoying your trip down under - the country sure is looking heaps better than the last time you were out. Cheers Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Change to Eric and turkeys
Dear Eric, Seems as if Lloyds words have caused you to spit the dummy. We are still on the list to discuss what we do. By the way we in Australia dont pay much credence to being a turkey. All we do in Australia with turkeys is to eat them. Regards James - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics - Original Message - From: Eric Myren To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list is that the school of Spirit I went to as teenager and over the past 19yrs says DO NOT PLAY WITH PLANETARY ENERGIES BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.PEACEERICP.S. Llloyd if any of my words have bothered you maybe their is a reason and maybe you should look to the inside and find out what that reason is :-)Please Eric - read the posts carefully - I write strongly in defence of something that I believe passionately in, have used with careand good intent, and used for the good af all concerned. I put forward a strong defence becausewhat I do has been attacked equally strongly. If I have said some specific thing that offends you I am happy to apologise for that (need to know what it is though). But if you think to make me feel bad by resigning from the list then , no sir, thats a piece of baggage I will not carry, thats your decision alone. I wish you well Lloyd Charles ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Hi Eric, This does not sound like someone who has been to spiritual school for 19 years. James Hedley - Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you are close to anyway On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 03:25 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote: The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list is that the school of Spirit I went to as teenager and over the past 19yrs says DO NOT PLAY WITH PLANETARY ENERGIES BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. PEACE ERIC Well, if we all went along with that notion, we would still be living in caves, beating each other over the head with the femurs of 'wild' animals, and dragging other tribe females off to expand the gene pool! One wonders if Eric has a Vortex in his back garden! roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Change to Eric and turkeys
- Original Message - From: James Hedley To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Change to Eric and turkeys Dear Eric, Seems as if Lloyds words have caused you to spit the dummy. James Gee James did I cause all this havoc? I was tryin' to be good too! ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Change to Eric and turkeys
Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message - From:James Hedley mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Change to Eric and turkeys Dear Eric, Seems as if Lloyds words have caused you to spit the dummy. James Gee James did I cause all this havoc? I was tryin' to be good too! No, Lloyd, I don't think you can blame yourself for this. Unfortunately there are people who use the internet who take delight in causing trouble on email lists and/or newsgroups, like in adopting repeatedly contrary views and confusing other subscribers, or using bad language ditto, as though they are in some sort of competition to see how many people they can get to unsub. There are indications on google that someone unidentified at Shaw Residential Internet (whose ISP addy is shaw.ca) has been 'stirring up' newsgroups since Feb this year . . roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
As an Astrologer of some 25years I suggest the only way to get to know the planetary energies is to get in there and PLAY with them as much as you can. GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protectionwww.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Eric Myren To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:31 AM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics The one last thing I wish to say before I unsubscribe from this list is that the school of Spirit I went to as teenager and over the past 19yrs says DO NOT PLAY WITH PLANETARY ENERGIES BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.PEACEERICP.S. Llloyd if any of my words have bothered you maybe their is a reason and maybe you should look to the inside and find out what that reason is :-)On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 07:22 AM, Lloyd Charles wrote: - Original Message -From: "Eric Myren" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:07 AMSubject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relicsHi EricIf you need to figure why some of us get peeved at the remarksdirected at radionics just take a look at the heading that this thread hasrun under . -- voodoo, holy cards, and third class relics -- hardly acomplimentary way to approach people who are doing their honest best to make" the benefits of the biodynamic preparations available as quickly aspossible to the largest possible areas of the entire earth, for the Earth'shealing." One thing I wanted to say about this is I have a problem with the wayRadionics has been portrayed on BDNOW! The almost religious fever thatpushes these things as being better than biodynamics is wrong.funny! from where I stand most of the religious fervour seems to be directedagainst the use of radionics and homeopathic remedies, by people rooted inthe traditional, - maybe we are all too sensitive? Yes Radionics has its place in theenergy system of the planet but is that instead of Biodynamics? NO! Itmust work in conjunction with it in a vastly different space. The pointI am trying to get across is that the two systems can work quite wellin conjunction with one another as long as both are being used.Dont see many of us actively promoting the idea that this is an either/orsituation, I certainly dont. James doesnt, nor Gil nor even Hugh Lovel ( ifyou pay attention to what he writes and says) find the biggest Vortex on your property or positively flowing dragon lineand blast your preps deeply into the ether."blast your preps" I find it incredible that anyone with the remotestunderstanding of radionics or field broadcasting could write this! .In shortand vulgar language - its a bloody insult - we use the field broadcaster toadminister the preps in a finely balanced and extremely subtle way, itsgentle and in most cases much more finely tuned than any use of the rawpreps.Yet you write this as if we are some uncouth person bashing nature overthe head with a shovel.I dont understand this attitude at all !___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Ye Ha, when you stir the mob on this list you get a bigger reaction than a hot potato under a horse's tail. I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with a large number of groups of people over the years and without doubt the hardest thing to get people to do is to think. Seeing as how, at least to my knowledge, humans are the only material manifestations that can think, than surely it is their role in the scheme of things to work hard at thinking. Hard physical work can be done by a number of different animals, but they can't think. Am I right or wrong? David C - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 21 July 2003 12:25 PM Subject: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Your emails now go into the JUNK folder where they belong. no further correspondence will be entered into. R Eric Myren wrote: The bird has shown its true feathers go snort some white gold and get stuffed you turkey! On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Roger Pye wrote: Eric Myren wrote: Hey Roger the Vortexes are all in your head and if you break the law of gravity you will wind up a babbling insane idiot which you are close to anyway Considering we don't even know each other, you are pretty free with your insults, don't you think? Is that what they taught you at your 'School of Spirit', that if you couldn't come up with a logical argument against something, bile and insult would do in its place? Next time you see a whirlpool in a river or lake, are you going to say Hey Eric the whirlpools are all in your head, what you are seeing isn't energy in the form of water spiralling down, it's a mirage and you're just a bumbling idiot? Ditto a whirly-whirly or whatever you call a wind eddy swirling across the landscape like a mini tornado? Ditto a hurricane or tornado? They are all natural energy vortexes, but their format makes them visible either in themselves or in the manner they affect other natural phenomena such as clouds or water flows or even dust. So the only difference in the vortexes I trace (and, incidentally, so does the person you addressed as 'Sir I respect your opinions and I find your words to be thoughtful and full of insight') is that whilst they are invisible in themselves, being spirals of pure energy, they may be located by their usually destructive effects on surrounding objects such as trees, boulders, buildings, watercourses and the like. Roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow -- Roger Reiki and Seichim Master Energy Healing Dowsing Land Management Consultant Earthcare Environmental Solutions PO Box 2057 Queanbeyan NSW 2620 Australia Ph / Fax: +61 2 6255 3824 Mob: +61 410 469 541 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth-careonline.com ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
D S Chamberlain wrote: Ye Ha, when you stir the mob on this list you get a bigger reaction than a hot potato under a horse's tail. I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with a large number of groups of people over the years and without doubt the hardest thing to get people to do is to think. Seeing as how, at least to my knowledge, humans are the only material manifestations that can think, than surely it is their role in the scheme of things to work hard at thinking. Hard physical work can be done by a number of different animals, but they can't think. Am I right or wrong? David C No, David, I'm not going to get into this, I have enough problems getting people to take a simple concept like making the natural energy inherent in and around themselves work FOR them instead of reinventing the wheel on how many difficult ways they can find to make life work AGAINST them! Roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Ye Ha, when you stir the mob on this list you get a bigger reaction than a hot potato under a horse's tail. I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with a large number of groups of people over the years and without doubt the hardest thing to get people to do is to think. Seeing as how, at least to my knowledge, humans are the only material manifestations that can think, than surely it is their role in the scheme of things to work hard at thinking. Hard physical work can be done by a number of different animals, but they can't think. Am I right or wrong? David C David, I absolutely agree about the thinking. How could anybody disagree - its a motherhood question. But one of the things about work (= action) that I have found, is that it is difficult to maintain detachment when so engaged. What I mean is that doing gets you involved - especially working with other people. Maybe this is what is meant, rather than the hard physical work. But David, have you any thoughts on the original question I put under this subject heading that you could share? There have been many comments but a resounding lack of anything OT. -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Hey, I'm no mathematician - I have enough trouble as it is with 2 + 2 = 5 :) Roger, your arithmetic skill is at least consistent with your thinking on other matters. I think we humans have a propensity for making things as complicated as we can. ...stuff about energies ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Pytrons indeed! -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Pytrons indeed! Ah, methinks we have here a true exponent of Hot Air Dynamics - if you can't counter something cleverly, hit it with ridicule. You should be in the House of Reps :) Roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Um..please expand. Pytrons indeed! Ah, methinks we have here a true exponent of Hot Air Dynamics - if you can't counter something cleverly, hit it with ridicule. You should be in the House of Reps :) I wasn't trying to counter anything Roger and I will leave the cleverness to you. Can U tell us the etymology of Pytrons? -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Resonant Info wrote: Resonant Info wrote: ...All I and my colleagues have done is expand the concept to the basis of those flows - that is, the energies which 'move' water or wind. that will be temperature and gravity? Not necessarily Um..please expand. Pytrons indeed! Ah, methinks we have here a true exponent of Hot Air Dynamics - if you can't counter something cleverly, hit it with ridicule. You should be in the House of Reps :) I wasn't trying to counter anything Roger and I will leave the cleverness to you. Can U tell us the etymology of Pytrons? Sorry, I take that crack back :( I don't know that etymology is the right word. It's just that James and I were snookered when it came to making comparisons of measurements made separately by us using pendulums. There is no official common scale (excepting one in England which for some strange reason requires participants to obtain a 100 gram cube of clear quartz and charge (energise) it to a certain rate. The cube would be very costly.) So we worked out a way of doing it a lot simpler than that. We could have called the process 'hedleytronics' but 'pytronics' is shorter and seems to roll off the tongue easier. That's all. As an example. If using a pendulum I measured my energy first thing in the morning, it would come out in the region of 945 units on my personal scale. James' personal scale rates it at 9.45. (We checked this variation over a range of items and it held true.) The pytronic standard we arrived at divided my scale by 10 and multiplied James' scale by ten, giving us a common measurement of 94.5. The item we use for the standard is a CD permanently energised to 1,000 pytrons. My personal scale is ten times that, James' that divided by ten. It does work for other people too. Roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Eric
Dear Lloyd, Roger, James, Actually, Eric has left the list because he is in the middle of moving from cattle country in Alberta to a more sophisticated mixed farming area in British Columbia. Michael ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Eric
- Original Message - From: mroiboz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:43 AM Subject: Eric Dear Lloyd, Roger, James, Actually, Eric has left the list because he is in the middle of moving from cattle country in Alberta to a more sophisticated mixed farming area in British Columbia. Michael Dear Michael Thats good news - the "I'm leaving the list" bit read like a dummy spit and seemed out of character, hope Eric comes back on when he gets re settled. Cheers Lloyd Charles ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Eric
Dear Lloyd, Roger, James, Actually, Eric has left the list because he is in the middle of moving from cattle country in Alberta to a more sophisticated mixed farming area in British Columbia. Michael Actually, Michael, Eric is off the list because Allan pulled the plug on him. I would have done it sooner if I weren't still stuck in 20-hr workday mode this season. Eric will be the first person that I have any recollection of banning from BD Now!, inspite of the many requests I do receive to have other personalities banned. There's a saying that bullshit should be tolerated because it is a good fertilizer--while it may seem to be disgusting to many in and of itself, something good may grow from it's liberal application. In my humble opinion, Eric, however, was closer to municipal sludge. I have no interest in seeing what his presence may spawn. Like a beekeeper with her Xacto, -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
From: D S Chamberlain Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics I would like to comment on part of what has been alluded to in the previous posts, in particular the assumption that hard physical work is a requirement for humans. I have been involved with a large number of groups of people over the years and without doubt the hardest thing to get people to do is to think. Seeing as how, at least to my knowledge, humans are the only material manifestations that can think, than surely it is their role in the scheme of things to work hard at thinking. Hard physical work can be done by a number of different animals, but they can't think. Am I right or wrong? David C I believe you're right David - sure we need a degree of pyhsical work to anchor us (and to keep fit) but the blind, grinding toil that some on the list would like some others to go through so that their moral high ground be maintained, and stirred preps be the only way of BD, well I dont believe that is necessary or even beneficial. We have YET to hear negatively from a person who has used radionics or field broadcasters in a thinking way, almost all of the negative comment seems to come from those that have little or no working knowledge in this field. They come ranting out in print trying to convince everybody else that there is some awful moral deficiency or laziness in anybody that would do radionics or use homeopathic preps, that these are not 'real', that because there is a 'machine' involved there are 'bad' energies (forget about the tractors and other gear involved in stir and spray),.Against all this we have Steiners active encouragement of the work of Koliskos studying homeopathic use of the preps and his urging to Pfeiffer to get it out there now, as much and as quick as we can, and worry about the experiments later. Most of the radionics people are quite happy to agree that they do other things as well, many do stir and spray preps, composting, and mineral soil balancing in some form. All of these things, (including physically spraying stirred preps) are a part of the whole balanced picture, not the whole deal on their own. Its time for some balance in this argument I think ! Cheers Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Eric
Yes, I think he will. He did ask me to forward bdnow! posts to him. Cheers, Michael - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Eric - Original Message - From: mroiboz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:43 AM Subject: Eric Dear Lloyd, Roger, James, Actually, Eric has left the list because he is in the middle of moving from cattle country in Alberta to a more sophisticated mixed farming area in British Columbia. Michael Dear Michael Thats good news - the "I'm leaving the list" bit read like a dummy spit and seemed out of character, hope Eric comes back on when he gets re settled. Cheers Lloyd Charles ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Hum a little spam may fit L*L Markess Subject: Will Rogers Will Rogers, died in a plane crash with Wylie Post -(as American Sages are want to do) in 1935. Enjoy the following quotes 1. Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco. 2. Never kick a cow chip on a hot day. 3. There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman...neither works. 4. Never miss a good chance to shut up. 5. Always drink upstream from the herd. 6. If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. 7. The quickest way to double your money is to fold it and put it back in your pocket. 8. There are three kinds of men The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence. 9. Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment. 10. If you're riding' ahead of the herd, take a look back every now and then to make sure it's still there. 11. Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier'n puttin' it back. 12. AND FINALLY: After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him... The moral When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Title: Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics Graeme, you make quote of: Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without matter I can't locate the original source of this quote but I believe Steiner was quoting an old saying. And what was the original German when you find it. And secondly from the Ag Course - ...always stay in the realm of the Living, he was referring to our thinking in regard to Agriculture . I wonder what the Salamanders, Undines, Sylphs and Earthlings think of this? Spray the Three Kings recently? Stirin' on. L*L Markess To me that means actual organic, incarnate, manifest, substance. Not pure spirit or pure energy. Not in the dead mineral world. Not in ethers, as such, but in the world where there are actual living things and sh*t and dirt. That is where we must live on Earth and tread a middle road of above and below, a road of ambiguity and uncertainty. This is not to try to ignore the spirit or the energy (or mathematical laws either) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
Turtle Bend wrote: Graeme, you make quote of: Two things that Steiner wrote that I find relevant to this statement - No matter without spirit no spirit without matter I can't locate the original source of this quote but I believe Steiner was quoting an old saying. Funny, I thought I gave you a few clues to this, Markess, namely It is the motto of the Rudolph Steiner Foundation, San Francisco, founded in 1983. Also allegedly from the Hindu Scriptures, refer http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/riddle/riddle1.htm#onelife and how to find the other 38 or so references And what was the original German when you find it. And secondly from the Ag Course - ...always stay in the realm of the Living, he was referring to our thinking in regard to Agriculture . I wonder what the Salamanders, Undines, Sylphs and Earthlings think of this? Spray the Three Kings recently? Stirin' on. L*L Markess roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
D S Chamberlain wrote: I see no difference between the energies I use with Reiki and with BD or radionics, just the tools I use with them are different. And that is something I am forever trying to get across - whether it is the same tree with different names, or the same energies with different names, it is still the same something - only the tools vary. I can and do alleviate distress in living people and animals using Reiki and other natural energy healing. I can and do alleviate distress in land, soils, plants and the spirits of former living people using the same healing energies. The tools I use include mind, intent, crystals, divining rods, pendulums - and healing energy and the spiritual realm. roger ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
