Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-06 Thread Gil Robertson

> >I haven't seen much in the way of responses to my request for advice
> >in using BD techniques or procedures in starting grape cuttings.
> >
> >Monte

Hi! Monte,
I am sorry no one has helped out.
My family has been grape growers (as we call them) for over a hundred
years. But none are yet BD. Our cuttings are taken in the autumn. Three
buds long, with a square cut at the base and an angle at the top, to
tell
which way up to plant them as they will not shoot up side down. Cut
close
to the bud to avoid "dead stick" which will let disease start. They will
be planted with one bud below the ground and two above. We tie them in
bundles, all the same way up and "heel them in", place the bottom bud
below ground level for the winter. Early spring they are planted in
position, taking care as they may have small roots. We take care to use
very sharp, clean secateurs to cut them and dip the secateurs in bleach
every now
and a gain, to avoid fungi.

I would see the BD being used to prepare and care for the soil, more
than
direct use on the cuttings. Personally, I would start at least two years
before planting, with a full BD routine, cover crops and green manure's
to get the soil and soil biota really firing.

Above is the way my family works, but many grower these days store the
cuttings in bundles under water, commonly in the swimming pool and then
plant into a nursery for a year, then plant the advanced vines, having
root pruned and toped them. I do not like this way, but a lot do it.

Gil




Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-05 Thread Allan Balliett

>I haven't seen much in the way of responses to my request for advice 
>in using BD techniques or procedures in starting grape cuttings.  
>
>Monte

Monte -

Myself - - and I'm no viticulturist -  - I dip the root end of the 
cuttings in barrel compost and set them in shaded raised beds. My 
success rate is definitely not 100%, but I have been happy with the 
results.

-Allan




Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-04 Thread MMinchow
In a message dated 2/3/02 2:59:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Just a related question, Monte (et al), the vineyards around here are 
all using grafted vines. What's the philosphy behind grafting or not 
grafting grapes?

-Allan



Allan,

It's my understanding that the two primary reasons for grafting to rootstocks with winegrapes are to protect against Phylloxera and to obtain certain growth characteristics pertaining to vigor and crop loads.

I haven't seen much in the way of responses to my request for advice in using BD techniques or procedures in starting grape cuttings.  

Monte


Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-04 Thread Boyer Patrick

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> Dear bdnow list members,
> 
> I am just beginning to learn more about biodynamics.  I am planning to
> start 3 acres worth of grape plants from cuttings and am wondering if
> there are any BD procedures that would be beneficial in this beginning
> process.  I would greatly appreciate any advise.
> 
> Thank you..Monte
hello  Monte
perhaps I can give you an adress of a bd french "vigneron",friend of
Alex podolinsky...
A+
PB




Re: Grape Cuttings

2002-02-03 Thread SBruno75


In a message dated 2/3/02 4:34:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Vinifera grapes-grafted

Issue is root susceptability to phyloxera & nematodes.  Location also a 
variable. >>

This is  a paranoid chemical view..these [plants] are treated like crap, 
get sick, then treated like junkies... they are susceptible to everything.  
sstorch




Re: Grape Cuttings

2002-02-03 Thread Lmvine1
Allan wrote:
Just a related question, Monte (et al), the vineyards around here are 
all using grafted vines. What's the philosphy behind grafting or not 
grafting grapes?

-Allan

American grapes-self rooted

FA hybrid grapes-self rooted or grafted depends on variety, etc.

Vinifera grapes-grafted

Issue is root susceptability to phyloxera & nematodes.  Location also a variable.

Dan


Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-03 Thread Gil Robertson

Allan Balliett wrote: Just a related question, Monte (et al), the
vineyards around here are all using grafted vines. What's the philosphy
behind grafting or not grafting grapes?

It may be to use a phylloxera (how ever you spell it) resistant root
stock with the desired type on top.

Gil




Re: grape cuttings

2002-02-03 Thread Allan Balliett

>Dear bdnow list members,
>
>I am just beginning to learn more about biodynamics.  I am planning 
>to start 3 acres worth of grape plants from cuttings and am 
>wondering if there are any BD procedures that would be beneficial in 
>this beginning process.  I would greatly appreciate any advise.
>
>Thank you..Monte

Just a related question, Monte (et al), the vineyards around here are 
all using grafted vines. What's the philosphy behind grafting or not 
grafting grapes?

-Allan