Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-31 Thread Alex Ferm
The C920 is very powerful compared to most web cams. I used one in a 
project recently, but I was not using OpenCV.

On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:25:29 AM UTC-5, Vassilis Mantas wrote:
>
> thanks for the response,
>
> With this particular webcam, you can set the exposure parameter through 
> OpenCV.
> At least that's what i found out googling.
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-29 Thread Peter Baltus
If blur is the main issue for a cheap webcam and you can't adjust the exposure 
time settings manually as with an industrial cam, you could try increasing the 
light level (add a very bright lamp) to encourage the camera to use shorter 
exposure times and therefore reduce the blur of moving objects. Just a 
thought...

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-29 Thread 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard
thanks for the response,

With this particular webcam, you can set the exposure parameter through 
OpenCV.
At least that's what i found out googling.

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-28 Thread Christian Keck

As for the industrial cameras, they are really expensive.


You have to consider the value of goods that are to be check as well as 
the risks that come with undetected failures. Industrial cameras are 
available for prices below 200 Euros, and lenses from major vendors are 
available for 100 Euros.



So webcam seems my only choise right now. High resolution is not a
problem for me, but blurness due to motion is a big one.


The effect of motion blur can be reduced if you emply shorter 
integration times. Industrial cameras offer variable integration times. 
I do not know if the integration time of webcams can be variated. To 
eliminate motion blur you might also operate your illumination in pulse 
mode similar to a flashlight. But this requires synchronisation between 
the camera and the flashlight, which is missing in Webcams.


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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-28 Thread 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard
thank you for the response, 

I need 2-4 photos per second. The rest frames will be discarded. Resolution 
is not a problem as long as the pics are clear (there will be products in 
motion - relatevily slow).
h.264 hardware encryption is vital in order for the BBB to go smoothly and 
the only tested camera with such characteristic is the logitech C920.(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_with_onboard_video_stream_encoding
).

would you agree?

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution for industrial use.

2015-08-28 Thread William Hermans

 *It is strange but Google searching works for me:*
 *http://www.radiumboards.com/HD_Camera_Cape_for_BeagleBone_Black.php
 http://www.radiumboards.com/HD_Camera_Cape_for_BeagleBone_Black.php*


Strange indeed. So strange in fact, I nearly spit soda at my screen ;)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Maxim Podbereznyy lisar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It is strange but Google searching works for me:
 http://www.radiumboards.com/HD_Camera_Cape_for_BeagleBone_Black.php
 27 Авг 2015 г. 18:46 пользователь katarti84 via BeagleBoard 
 beagleboard@googlegroups.com написал:

 Ok, i work over a project about color sorting into food industry with
 less cost.

 I have decided to use Beaglebone Black.
 In order to do the color sorting i will use OpenCV.
 The problem that occurs is the hardware part - the camera.

 As far as google can tell me my only option is a webcam - via usb. (lot
 of options for R-Pi though)
 The program will only take snapshots.
 Than means the time it takes for a snapshot has to be minimum and same,
 every time.

 Could you suggest the best and affordable option?


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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution for industrial use.

2015-08-28 Thread 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard
try with openCV.

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-28 Thread ybeagle3
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 08:10:17 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard wrote:
 Ok, i work over a color sorting project in food industry with minimum cost.
 I have decided to use BeagleboneBlack and OpenCV.
 The problem occured is the camera...
 
 As far as i know (google) my only option is a usb webcam. (far more choises
 for RaPi).
 The camera will be used only for snapshots, so it shoud provide the minimum
 and always the same response time.
 
 I dont know if a webcam could fill these needs.
 Please, suggest an affordable webcam (50E is max) or other solutions.

What kind of resolution do you need and what kind of frame rate do you expect 
to be able to process with OpenCV on the BBB? There are a lot of camera 
options but without knowing the expectations, it is hard to suggest anything.

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution for industrial use.

2015-08-28 Thread Maxim Podbereznyy
It is strange but Google searching works for me:
http://www.radiumboards.com/HD_Camera_Cape_for_BeagleBone_Black.php
27 Авг 2015 г. 18:46 пользователь katarti84 via BeagleBoard 
beagleboard@googlegroups.com написал:

 Ok, i work over a project about color sorting into food industry with less
 cost.

 I have decided to use Beaglebone Black.
 In order to do the color sorting i will use OpenCV.
 The problem that occurs is the hardware part - the camera.

 As far as google can tell me my only option is a webcam - via usb. (lot of
 options for R-Pi though)
 The program will only take snapshots.
 Than means the time it takes for a snapshot has to be minimum and same,
 every time.

 Could you suggest the best and affordable option?


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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-27 Thread Christian Keck

Hello,


Ok, i work over a color sorting project in food industry with minimum
cost. I have decided to use BeagleboneBlack and OpenCV. The problem
occured is the camera...

As far as i know (google) my only option is a usb webcam. (far more
choises for RaPi). The camera will be used only for snapshots, so it
shoud provide the minimum and always the same response time.

I dont know if a webcam could fill these needs. Please, suggest an
affordable webcam (50E is max) or other solutions.


A camera cape together with a quality lens would provide you with much 
better images than a webcam.


You might use an industrial camera connected to the BeagleBoneBlack. 
Such a camera together with a quality lens would even be more robust. 
Some camera manufacturers (IDS Imaging, for instance) offer Raspberry 
Linux drivers for their cameras and might be able to provide you with 
drivers for Linux on BeagleBone, if you ask them.


Christian

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-27 Thread Marcus Diogo
I got problems using opencv
if you got too use  fswebcam
The web if full of samples
https://www.google.com/search?q=web+can+rpiie=utf-8oe=utf-8#q=+fswebcam+beaglebone+

http://www.cedtnsit.in/connectx/pdf/camera.pdf


2015-08-27 13:16 GMT-03:00 Christian Keck c.k...@tu-braunschweig.de:

 Hello,

 Ok, i work over a color sorting project in food industry with minimum
 cost. I have decided to use BeagleboneBlack and OpenCV. The problem
 occured is the camera...

 As far as i know (google) my only option is a usb webcam. (far more
 choises for RaPi). The camera will be used only for snapshots, so it
 shoud provide the minimum and always the same response time.

 I dont know if a webcam could fill these needs. Please, suggest an
 affordable webcam (50E is max) or other solutions.


 A camera cape together with a quality lens would provide you with much
 better images than a webcam.

 You might use an industrial camera connected to the BeagleBoneBlack. Such
 a camera together with a quality lens would even be more robust. Some
 camera manufacturers (IDS Imaging, for instance) offer Raspberry Linux
 drivers for their cameras and might be able to provide you with drivers for
 Linux on BeagleBone, if you ask them.

 Christian

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-27 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:37 PM, 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard
beagleboard@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Christian,
 thank you for your time.

 As for the industrial cameras, they are really expensive.
 Camera cape remains a risk as there no available published test projects and
 i doudt opencv compatibility.
 I guess typical camera modules are out of questions.

Correct, as the am335x used on the bbb, doesn't have your typical
camera interface...  So usb is really the only option, unless you do
something custom with the pru...

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Re: [beagleboard] Camera solution

2015-08-27 Thread 'Vassilis Mantas' via BeagleBoard
Christian,
thank you for your time.

As for the industrial cameras, they are really expensive.
Camera cape remains a risk as there no available published test projects 
and i doudt opencv compatibility.
I guess typical camera modules are out of questions. (i really dont know 
there compatibility with BBB anyway)
So webcam seems my only choise right now. High resolution is not a problem 
for me, but blurness due to motion is a big one.

Do you have any suggestions?

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