Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-04-03 Thread Jason Kridner
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 On 3/27/2014 3:26 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for testing the beta images!

 In this last last week window I've rolled in many of your changes.

 So please continue to use the bug tracker:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 I haven't been able to get the elinux bug tracker to let me post
 anything, so forgive me for posting a few comments here.  These are from
 the 3/19 image, so I apologize if any have been addressed, and they
 mostly fall under personal preference rather than actual bugs.

 * I like to add console=tty0 so startup kernel messages go to both the
 serial console and to the HDMI screen, if connected.  While less
 information is displayed with systemd than previously, if the kernel
 hangs for some reason at boot this could avoid the need for a serial
 cable which a lot of people won't have.

 I think i'm going to enable this too..

 * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
 application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
 on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.

 Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

 * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
 horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
 see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
 ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
 professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color scheme.

 I stole it from the Angstrom image. We just got to be careful, as it's
 only 16bit, so some colors combos look odd.

If we need a new source image, you can go to
http://beagleboard.org/media and check out the images there.

The high-res logo is
http://beagle.s3.amazonaws.com/logo/beagle_logo_FNL_2_cmyk.eps.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if someone took the vector image of
http://beagleboard.org/static/uploads/BorisTux_w_Logo.png and combined
it with the Debian logo in some way to make a nice scalable backdrop
that looks like Debian. I also think the black background looks nice.


 I'm working through the process of trying to install MachineKit /
 LinuxCNC via packages (including the kernel and Xenomai user-mode), and
 will switch to the new image for further testing.

 Keep up the great work!


 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-04-03 Thread Jason Kridner
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:49 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Charles, Ok will give it a shot after this weekend. Actually though, if I
 had jus ta stock image of a beagle, perhaps the one taken from beagle.org, I
 could do the rest from scratch myself. The text coloring on that image may
 not mesh well with a light blue or dark grey background. But that is pretty
 easy to test, so I'll check it out.

As mentioned elsewhere on this thread, there are source images at
http://beagleboard.org/media, including vector images.



 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 On 3/28/2014 5:12 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
  On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
  char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
  application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get
  to
  on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19
  image.
 
  Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?
 
  I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
  terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
  if that would help.

 I found the config file under .config.  It looks easy enough to make a
 diff to add the terminal button, I'll try to verify it works properly
 from a fresh install and send it along.

 Another feature I forgot to mention:
 You might want to disable the password request when running sudo, since
 the system is automatically logging folks in.  To do this, you drop a
 file in /etc/sudoers.d and remove the user from the admin list.  Details:


 https://github.com/cdsteinkuehler/omap-image-builder/blob/MachineKit/machinekit/scripts/110.etc.shr#L12

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-31 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 On 3/27/2014 3:26 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for testing the beta images!

 In this last last week window I've rolled in many of your changes.

 So please continue to use the bug tracker:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 I haven't been able to get the elinux bug tracker to let me post
 anything, so forgive me for posting a few comments here.  These are from
 the 3/19 image, so I apologize if any have been addressed, and they
 mostly fall under personal preference rather than actual bugs.

 * I like to add console=tty0 so startup kernel messages go to both the
 serial console and to the HDMI screen, if connected.  While less
 information is displayed with systemd than previously, if the kernel
 hangs for some reason at boot this could avoid the need for a serial
 cable which a lot of people won't have.

I just pushed this..

 * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
 application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
 on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.

This got interesting, the file we need to modify:

/home/debian/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel

Is actually generated on first bootup, so we can't patch it prior.


 * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
 horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
 see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
 ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
 professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color scheme.

 I'm working through the process of trying to install MachineKit /
 LinuxCNC via packages (including the kernel and Xenomai user-mode), and
 will switch to the new image for further testing.

 Keep up the great work!

Regards,

-- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-31 Thread Robert Nelson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 On 3/28/2014 5:12 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
 application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
 on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.

 Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

 I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
 terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
 if that would help.

 I found the config file under .config.  It looks easy enough to make a
 diff to add the terminal button, I'll try to verify it works properly
 from a fresh install and send it along.

 Another feature I forgot to mention:
 You might want to disable the password request when running sudo, since
 the system is automatically logging folks in.  To do this, you drop a
 file in /etc/sudoers.d and remove the user from the admin list.  Details:

 https://github.com/cdsteinkuehler/omap-image-builder/blob/MachineKit/machinekit/scripts/110.etc.shr#L12

Thanks Charles,

Just pushed this too..

Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-31 Thread Robert Nelson
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:49 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Charles, Ok will give it a shot after this weekend. Actually though, if I
 had jus ta stock image of a beagle, perhaps the one taken from beagle.org, I
 could do the rest from scratch myself. The text coloring on that image may
 not mesh well with a light blue or dark grey background. But that is pretty
 easy to test, so I'll check it out.

Hi William,

For reference, the current images are stored in git here:

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/tree/master/images

They were corrupted in angstrom's git repo, so i took the original
from an older Angstrom image.

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-31 Thread William Hermans
Ok, I have one such modification. Now I just need to figure out how to
upload to the group lol ( I use my email client for view posts . ..).


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:49 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Charles, Ok will give it a shot after this weekend. Actually though, if I
  had jus ta stock image of a beagle, perhaps the one taken from
 beagle.org, I
  could do the rest from scratch myself. The text coloring on that image
 may
  not mesh well with a light blue or dark grey background. But that is
 pretty
  easy to test, so I'll check it out.

 Hi William,

 For reference, the current images are stored in git here:

 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/tree/master/images

 They were corrupted in angstrom's git repo, so i took the original
 from an older Angstrom image.

 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-31 Thread William Hermans
Seems that the color replacement tool isnt very clean around the letters. I
should have checked this before posting the image . . . But in this case,
I'll have to get more creative in what I do here ( color masking ) which
will take me a while longer. I do not have the time right at this very
moment
 but will try later this evening,

Also I had an idea of making an OpenROV like background . . . form the
beagleboard.org top animated ad box . . . Thoughts ?


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:38 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK here we go. Dark(ish) grey. I will make some other colored backgrounds.

 Charles, or Robert, do either of you know if the Debian background
 supports transparency ? That way I could just make a transparent beagle
 image, and the user could choose whatever color they prefer . ..

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-29 Thread William Hermans
Charles, Ok will give it a shot after this weekend. Actually though, if I
had jus ta stock image of a beagle, perhaps the one taken from beagle.org,
I could do the rest from scratch myself. The text coloring on that image
may not mesh well with a light blue or dark grey background. But that is
pretty easy to test, so I'll check it out.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Charles Steinkuehler 
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 On 3/28/2014 5:12 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
  On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
  char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
  application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get
 to
  on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19
 image.
 
  Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?
 
  I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
  terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
  if that would help.

 I found the config file under .config.  It looks easy enough to make a
 diff to add the terminal button, I'll try to verify it works properly
 from a fresh install and send it along.

 Another feature I forgot to mention:
 You might want to disable the password request when running sudo, since
 the system is automatically logging folks in.  To do this, you drop a
 file in /etc/sudoers.d and remove the user from the admin list.  Details:


 https://github.com/cdsteinkuehler/omap-image-builder/blob/MachineKit/machinekit/scripts/110.etc.shr#L12

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/27/2014 3:26 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for testing the beta images!
 
 In this last last week window I've rolled in many of your changes.
 
 So please continue to use the bug tracker:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

I haven't been able to get the elinux bug tracker to let me post
anything, so forgive me for posting a few comments here.  These are from
the 3/19 image, so I apologize if any have been addressed, and they
mostly fall under personal preference rather than actual bugs.

* I like to add console=tty0 so startup kernel messages go to both the
serial console and to the HDMI screen, if connected.  While less
information is displayed with systemd than previously, if the kernel
hangs for some reason at boot this could avoid the need for a serial
cable which a lot of people won't have.

* Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.

* I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color scheme.

I'm working through the process of trying to install MachineKit /
LinuxCNC via packages (including the kernel and Xenomai user-mode), and
will switch to the new image for further testing.

Keep up the great work!

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 On 3/27/2014 3:26 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for testing the beta images!

 In this last last week window I've rolled in many of your changes.

 So please continue to use the bug tracker:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 I haven't been able to get the elinux bug tracker to let me post
 anything, so forgive me for posting a few comments here.  These are from
 the 3/19 image, so I apologize if any have been addressed, and they
 mostly fall under personal preference rather than actual bugs.

 * I like to add console=tty0 so startup kernel messages go to both the
 serial console and to the HDMI screen, if connected.  While less
 information is displayed with systemd than previously, if the kernel
 hangs for some reason at boot this could avoid the need for a serial
 cable which a lot of people won't have.

I think i'm going to enable this too..

 * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
 application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
 on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.

Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

 * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
 horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
 see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
 ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
 professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color scheme.

I stole it from the Angstrom image. We just got to be careful, as it's
only 16bit, so some colors combos look odd.

 I'm working through the process of trying to install MachineKit /
 LinuxCNC via packages (including the kernel and Xenomai user-mode), and
 will switch to the new image for further testing.

 Keep up the great work!


Regards,

-- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
 * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
 application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
 on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19 image.
 
 Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
if that would help.

 * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
 horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
 see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
 ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
 professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color scheme.
 
 I stole it from the Angstrom image. We just got to be careful, as it's
 only 16bit, so some colors combos look odd.

I just switched to the first background color that seemed OK, a light
blue, IIRC.  But that means I lost the beagle.  :(

Anyone here good with graphics?

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-28 Thread William Hermans
Charles,

I am not bad with photoshop, really depends on what exactly what needs
being done, but I am quite advanced with some things.

As a side note I rather like a black background, But I have not seen the
background image you speak of yet. For writing code though my personal
preferences are black or very dark background, with light colored text. We
all have our own preferences though . .


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Charles Steinkuehler 
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
  char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
  application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get to
  on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19
 image.
 
  Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

 I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
 terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
 if that would help.

  * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
  horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much rather
  see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
  ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
  professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color
 scheme.
 
  I stole it from the Angstrom image. We just got to be careful, as it's
  only 16bit, so some colors combos look odd.

 I just switched to the first background color that seemed OK, a light
 blue, IIRC.  But that means I lost the beagle.  :(

 Anyone here good with graphics?

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Re: [beagleboard] Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta + fixes) image you want to test (2014-03-27)

2014-03-28 Thread William Hermans
Er, sorry. If you post a screen shot of the beagle background image, and
give me a short explanation of what you'd like to see I will give it a shot.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:22 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Charles,

 I am not bad with photoshop, really depends on what exactly what needs
 being done, but I am quite advanced with some things.

 As a side note I rather like a black background, But I have not seen the
 background image you speak of yet. For writing code though my personal
 preferences are black or very dark background, with light colored text. We
 all have our own preferences though . .


 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Charles Steinkuehler 
 char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 On 3/28/2014 5:04 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Charles Steinkuehler
  char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:
  * Given the target audience, I would add a terminal short-cut on the
  application launch bar next to the web browser.  It's not hard to get
 to
  on the menu, but that's one of the first changes I made to the 3/19
 image.
 
  Sounds like a nice addon, do you have an example i can pull in?

 I just right-clicked the application launcher section and added the
 terminal program.  I can crawl around and try to find the modified file
 if that would help.

  * I'm not sure who made the black desktop background, but I find it
  horrid (just the black part...the beagle is cute!) and would much
 rather
  see something lighter.  I'm not aware of any other GUI environment that
  ships with a black background as default, and out of all the
  professional programmers I know, only one uses this sort of color
 scheme.
 
  I stole it from the Angstrom image. We just got to be careful, as it's
  only 16bit, so some colors combos look odd.

 I just switched to the first background color that seemed OK, a light
 blue, IIRC.  But that means I lost the beagle.  :(

 Anyone here good with graphics?

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 char...@steinkuehler.net

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