RE: Good Citizen Requirements
You can find the requirements at the following website: www.akc.org/love/cgc/testprocedures.cfm Nancy Melone Mars, PA
RE: OFA translations
I will illustrate with the OFA elbow number of one of my dogs: BMD-EL2763M24-PI Here s what it means: BMD = the breed EL = Elbow 2763 = means that he is the 2763rd Berner to receive an OFA elbow certification number M = male 24 = the dog's age in months when the radiograph was taken PI = permanently identified (he is permanently identified by both a DNA profile and a microchip) If you search the OFA database for my dog's entry, you will note that his information is in green letters. That means that I have agreed to release all findings on him that are reported in green. If you want to know how elbows and hips are graded (what it means to get hips with grade E or G or F, etc., go to the web pages noted below. www.offa.org/ofaed.html For information on how elbows are graded. www.offa.org/hdgrade.html For Information how hips are graded. It's wonderful when your puppy's dam and sire have excellent hip ratings and certified elbow ratings, but you need to remember that the mode of inheritance for hip and elbow dysplasia is polygenic (i.e., coming from more than one ("poly") gene pair. These traits are more complex than the typical dominant or recessive genetic trait. The additive interaction of the genes can cause variable results and the gene can be easily passed on to other generations without being identified). As such, you would also like to know the ratings of the brothers and sisters of the dam and sire to get a better picture of your puppy's risk for inherited disease. There is a very good (easy to read) article at the AKC Canine Health Fund site on examining broader pedigrees at the following web address: www.akcchf.org/news/press/sundrypress/Hovan%20article%20-%20Golden%20Paw%20' 02.pdf (Collecting and Utilizing Phenotypic Data to minimize Disease: A Breeder's Practical Guide). While it is written for a breeder, PPOs can also find it useful. The author states that we do not have genetic tests for many diseases and so we need to use phenotypic data (what you can see as on x-rays of hips) to make informed breeding (or puppy buying) decisions. Nancy Melone, Ph.D. Mars, PA
Re: Puppy Training Questions
Hi Kim, Do you clicker train? The best way to prevent jumping up is to turn your back on the dog (ie. ignore her!) while she jumps, and teach her an alternate acceptable behaviour like sit, which you reward her immensly for (food, praise). If you are consistant with this, it will take no time at all to extinguish the bad behaviour and teach the good. If you touch her at all while she's jumping, you are giving her what she wants, attention (no matter how negative) and it will take forever for her to learn not to do it. So just ignore her and show her what you really want from her. Leslie Joanisse Fortune & Faith - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:51 AM Subject: Puppy Training Questions > Hello, > > I hope you Berner experts out there have some advice for me on a couple of > puppy training questions. We have a new little girl Willow, 12 weeks old > next week, and she is really terrible about jumping up and nipping > excessively, especially when she gets overly excited and during walks. I > know much of this is "normal puppy behavior", but she has torn some of my > clothing with her teeth when I'm walking her, and it's becoming a real > problem. > > For the jumping I have tried two techniques-1) holding her up by the front > paws so she is on her hind legs for several seconds, which the Monks of New > Skete say puppies hate. Willow doesn't seem to be bothered by this position > at all. 2) I have tried blocking her jumps with my knee or hand while saying > "off", but again, this doesn't seem to discourage her. Anyone have another > idea? > > For the nipping/biting, other than the obvious giving her an appropriate chew > toy, I have tried the following; 1) Closing my hand around her snout gently > and telling her "no", 2) folding her lips around her teeth and closing her > mouth on them, so she sort of bites herself, again saying no 3) Pressing her > tongue down with my thumb, or putting my finger in the back of her throat, > which sometimes causes her to gag, again saying no and 4) Spraying my legs > and the objects I want her not to chew with the Bitter Apple, Nature's > Miracle puppy training aid, and Chew Stop. I actually had to spray Chew Stop > in her mouth last nightshe backed off a bit, but resumed the mouthing > shortly afterward. The bitter taste aids don't seem to bother her at all. > > A long time ago with my cat, I was told to spray water in the pet's face if > he nipped or jumped. I haven't tried this with Willow yet, but it worked > well with the kitten to prevent him from attacking my legs. I'm hoping > somebody out there might have another technique that I haven't yet tried for > these behaviors. Our first berner seemed to "get it" faster than this one, > and after repeated correction he stopped jumping and nipping. Willow isn't > getting it as quickly. Of course I'll keep up the trainingbut if anyone > has another suggestion, I'd love to hear from you. > > Thanks. > > Kim Touzeau > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: SAVING ON DRYERS/BOOSTER BATHs/SHAMPOO
Carol: Just a reminder to shop around for the booster bath -- the price ranges quite a bit (up to $40). I have one. With 3 Berners, I returned my investment in less than 5 baths! I have it in my garage and hook it up to my utility sink, run the hose directly to the floor drain. I give baths all year in there. I use a 4.0 HP Metro Commander dryer (AFTD3). Shop around for price -- ranges from $129 to $149. I was looking for a good value and found this to be a good product for a reasonable price (I paid $129 and got an additional $10 discount on a promotion). You can pay more for fancier dryers, but I didn't want to. If you are not already doing it, save by buying your shampoo by the gallon through PetsEdge (or a supplier of your favorite brand). About once a year, the catalogs have sales for 4-gallon carton purchases of shampoo. Several members of our club go together. We split the cartons (each of us takes a gallon or two) and as a result, get an even better discount than we would by buying a single gallon. Look for concentrated shampoos that you can dilute. I use All Systems, runs around $27 (1:1 dilution) -- smells like Breck, so my Berner girls are "Breck girls"!! Hm, wonder what that makes my Berner boy? Nancy Melone Mt Tops Hannah Anna, CD, TDI, CGC Ch Lionhearts Caruso v Pioneer, CGC Elmira's Fleur de Lys (just looks cute, right now) Mars, PA
Re: Good Citizen
Hello All What are the attributes necessary to pass the Good Citizen Test? I think my pup is ready. Esta Dalsass
Hip replacement
Hi, If anyone has done a total hip replacement on both hips for their BMD, would you please contact me privately? Thanks much. Sincerely, Dawn F. Letry Crystal Creek Bernese Mountain Dogs and one Norwich!! Double Oak, TEXAS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Breeding
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Re: nice question--how to make your dog throw up!
Lucky Aeryn just got to be on the receiving end of the hydrogen peroxide. I got home from work tonight and 'Ryn was outside in the dog pen -- didn't even rush to the gate to greet me. Hmmm, what's she doing? I guess when my Dad put out the bag of kitchen garbage he set it on top of instead of in the garbage can. I got home in time to find the darling girl polishing off the last of the garbage. Included in said garbage where chicken wing bones, a big sheet of aluminum foil with salmon skin stuck to it, tea bags, kleenex, paper towels etc. etc. Well there were only a few tiny pieces of the aluminum foil left, some scraps of the plastic bag, and 1 tea bag. I couldn't imagine letting her try and pass all that heavy duty foil, let alone the chicken bones, so out came the dreaded H2O2. Poor girly, I always hate doing that to her -- the disgusted look on her face! But up it all came, along with a couple of things I didn't know about (seems she'd been helping to clean up a couple piles of dog poop .. YUCK!!!) All's well that ends well, the garbage is now appropriately disposed of, Aeryn has forgiven me, and was quite adament that she did indeed feel like having her supper! sue(Aeryn with Devyn & Rowyn -- good thing the boys were inside at the time or i would have been cleaning up barf from 3 instead of 1!
re: survey
1 --- Do you live in a) city 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? berner - at the foot of the bed or in the bathroom mixed breed - on the bed or near the bed rottweiler - on the bed 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? berner - when he was a puppy, he had a green plush squeaky bone. after its squeaker died, he never had a favourite toy again. mixed breed - plush squeaky ball rottweiler - currently the police car or the lamb that baas, but she believes in frequent switches 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) berner - his presence. he's always been there for me for 11 years now. mixed breed - eternal youth. not bad for an 8 year old dog that was only supposed to make it to 4 to 6 years. rottweiler - eternal optimism & the very cute stubby tail wag. 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) we switched to a station wagon when we had 2 berners & then to a mini van with 3 dogs. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) berner - int ac ucdx alpenrose charles dickens asca cd akc cdx cgc ndd mixed breed - shire bark a lounger cgc hic rottweiler - neu-rodes wild thing asca/ckc cd cgc tt hic a) conformation - berner b) obedience trials - berners & rottweiler c) drafting trials - berners & soon the rottie (we can do the fastest maneuver course you've seen!) d) agility - berner & rottie - some classes, seminars, & 1 trial e) therapy work - all dogs we have owned f) tracking - some classes, haven't really worked hard at it yet g) training classes - all dogs & they've all ended up being my demo dogs when i've taught h) digging to China - only digger was a rescue we were fostering. i) blood donors - all dogs we have owned 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. berner - we he was a year old &, we thought, safe to leave by himself in the house, he shredded all of the newspapers saved for recycle & my stationery set. for awhile after that, almost every note i sent out had teeth marks. lisa baldwin (dickens, bark & zel) seattle, wa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Laying down to eat
My Java lies down on the bed and awaits room service (me) to deliver...yup, he sure eats lying down! Vilma Briggs (Kistner) Mt. Gilead, OH U-UD Mocha Java Slurp, UDX, HIC, TT Ch. Brighteye Expresso Bean, UD, NDD, TT U-CDX Our Little Buddy, UD, NA, TT Thirdtym's A Charm, CGC and now Brew/Bruin
Fw: Fun Survey
Sorry... ---Original Message--- From: Karen Alexander Date: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:51:22 PM To: Berner L Subject: Fun Survey Have fun! 1 --- Do you live in d) on Planet Berner 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Clover is my 7 year old baby has always slept in the bed with me. Hazel who is almost a year and a half, sleeps in the bath tub. Cindy is four months old and sleeps in the crate until older. 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Clover chews on a sterilized bone. Hazel used to enjoy any toy I gave her. When Cindy arrived, the puppy became her most favorite toy. Cindy has enjoyed all of Hazel's toys but her favorite is one I bought just for her and its a wool sheep with a squeaker in it, her sleepy sheep. 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is Clover - her patience with me over the years Hazel - the way she wakes me up in the morning by jumping into the bed and putting her face on mine Cindy - her smiling eyes and friendliness 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) Yes - I had Clover with me in a Honda Civic when I was in an auto accident. She was unhurt but I ended up having three surgeries. I traded it for a Honda Odessey and have never regretted it. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) a) conformation - Clover is a Champion. e) therapy work - Clover went to my father's nursing home and she has been trained to be my service dog. g) training classes - Hazel has been to obedience and we are working toward her CGC. h) digging to China - Hazel had slanted eyes in another life she is passing on her skills to Cindy. 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. Clover - it was so bad I had to send her back to the breeder for a few months Hazel - she is a crazy girl, full of herself on a daily basis and most of the time she does just the opposite of what I want her to do Cindy - so far she is still learning her boundaries and is a good puppy but is unfortunately closely watching Hazel's every behavior Karen Alexander Florida USA
fibromatous epulis
Hello All, Does anyone have experience of the treatment for a fibromatous epulis? tvm Wendy & Boris Boris Beard Ottawa, Canada http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
Adriamycin and Carboplatin
Moses was treated with Adriamycin and Cisplatin for his first three chemos for bone cancer and Adriamycin and Carboplatin for his fourth. Stat blood work and urinalysis were done before each chemo treatment. Fourth urine test revealed lower specific gravity that they like to see which is why carboplatin was used as it is friendlier, so to speak, to the kidneys, even though the "system" is extensively "flushed" when the Cisplatin is used. Moses was only "off his feed" after the second chemo and only for one day when he did not want to eat, was depressed, and just wanted to rest. Lisa Allen _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: revolution
Hello Sherri! I apologize for somewhat late answer: today I have caught up reading the archives and I cannot resist answering because I find it very useful and stimulating. :-) That wording of their material is important...the Pfizer website states: "With monthly dosing, Revolution (selamectin) controls American dog tick (D.variabilis) infestations in dogs and puppies as young as six weeks." There are two problems with this statement... First, what does "control...infestations" mean? Being careful interpreting the words, this is what I see: if it doesn't kill ticks then the only way to control them is by repelling them. The marketing is geared towards people who may not think that repellant properties is enough, they want ticks dead if they do get onto the dog. I personally think that killing attached ticks is only half of the deal - you still have to find and remove the dead tick lest it starts festering. Moreover, if the tick bites into the dog, wouldn't that transmit the Lyme if the tick is a carrier? I agree with you that the statements they make are problematic. That's why I put off Revolution issue till I know more about what other products offer (sarcoptic mange protection?!) and how things stack up. The tick variety specificity - it could have been an unexpectedly useful side effect (reminds me of a tale about one electronic chip specifications saying "it shouldn't have worked, but it does") Gulnara I am much more decisive about my antihistamines... sigh _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Berkely NJ Dog Show Info
The shows are both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday Berners show at 10:00 a.m. in Ring #5. There is an entry of 14 Berners, 4 dogs, 7 bitches, 2 dog specials and 1 bitch special. On Sunday Berners show at 10:00 a.m. in Ring #4, following 7 Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs and 7 Newfoundlands. There is an entry of 13 Berners, 3 dogs, 7 bitches, 2 dog specials, and 1 bitch special. Obedience Competition starts at 9:00 a.m. each day. This show is outdoors and will be held rain or shine. Admission is $2.00 for adults and .50 for children. It is requested that your pets/unentered dogs remain at home. LOCATION: Robert J. Miller Airpark DIRECTIONS: >From the North.Garden State Parkway to exit 77. At the end of the ramp turn left and go to the traffic light. Turn right at the light and follow dog show signs to the show site. Approximately 4 miles. You will go through one more traffic light after you have turned right. Show site will be on your left. >From the South. Garden State Parkway to exit 77. At the end of the ramp turn left and proceed to the show site, which will be approximately 4.5 miles, on your left. After your left off the ramp you will go straight through 2 traffic lights. If you want to see Ocean Counties best dog park, it is located right across from the airport terminal, very, very close to the Show Site. Admittance into the dog park is by permit only, but. a very nice facility that is enjoyed by many county residents and a few of us on the "l" Hope to see lots of you at ringside. Barb Wagner down the Jersey Shore __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Histio Roll Call - New Pics added!
Hi All, Just added in a beautiful new pic of Hootie to his page. And gorgeous pic of Oscar with his adoring fan club! Thankfully no new additions to this Tribute Page this week! http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm Hmmm! This new Site has sadly grown so very fast. In the last few weeks since I started these pages, I have made seven new Tribute pages. Histio strikes so fast and is fatal! First, a reminder to you folks out there who were gonna send me pics to complete and fill the missing pages! Second, biggest ever Berner Hugs to you all who have recently lost your pals to Histio! Third!!! Just a few weeks left on the Fundraiser, get your Raffle Tickets now and help find the answer! Find details for the Raffle of those wonderful paintings by Willem Wijnberg and how you can help, scroll down on Histio Roll Call, url above. See all those wonderfuil dogs so sadly lost to Histio, read their individual pages, and please contribute. You have nothing to lose! And you might even win a special Willem painting! All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Re: Return of The Fun Survery!!
My husband, Dan, and I live with 8 month old Nicco. 1 --- Do you live in a) city b) suburbs c) country d) on Planet Berner B - Outside city limits but lots of country around us...had a bald eagle in tree out back last week!!! 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Snuggles on the bed at bedtime then moves to his padded dogbed on the floor at the foot of our bed. More snuggles on the bed in the morning! Nicco spent his first 3-4 months in crate next to our bed. He was a very good boy and went in the crate on his own and never made a peep...he was, and is, quite the sleepyhead in the morning and would rather stay on the bed and get snuggles than motivate himself to go out to pee. Ask him if he wants to go out to go pee and he just does a long stretch and goes belly up with a big berner grin! 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Nicco's favorite "toys" are our three cats. He has never outgrown the urge to chase those cats and sometimes comes away with a mouthful of Maine Coon fluff. I have to blame these bad manners on Nicco's breeder who does not seem to be a "cat person". Libby, you raise wonderful, loving, confident, outgoing puppies but they have no respect for felines! 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) His beautiful head, his love of people, his length!!! This boy is so long he cannot even lick his butt! 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) Yes, we have a van bought for our first berner Travis and now enjoyed by Nicco who is a good traveler. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) Has had obedience 101. Needs obedience 102. 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. At 3.5 months Nicco got carried away giving my husband kisses and pierced Dan's earlobe...on the way to our first obedience class. Dan's ear bled for the first half hour of class :( Cindy Reid and Maine's Lake Country Nicco in Corning, NY
Re: DRYERS
My favorite is the Circuiteer II dryer. I found KV Vet had the best price, about $330. I ordered one for a friend in Canada, after telling her how powerful and wonderful mine was. When hers arrived, she telephone to tell me she thought she had just blown one of her dogs all the way to Arkansas! This dryer has two speeds and needs a 20 amp electrical outlet to run both motors, at least it did here. I had to wire an outlet for it outside on the back porch. http://www.kvvet.com/KVVet/productr.asp?pf%5Fid=81275&gift=False&Gift=false&; HSLB=False&mscssid=1D91CAA7CEDA4B3EA74F44E8AD7CC1B8 Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fun Survey
1 --- Do you live in a) city b) suburbs c) country d) on Planet Berner B) Suburbs--technically a small/medium city west of Chicago. 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Floor at the foot of the stairs to "guard" her biped sisters who sleep upstairs. Sometimes the living room couch. She is welcome in bed with me and does so when it thunders. 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Our two year old lab, Shadow! 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) Physically--her tail, it is a "gay tail" but she is proud of it and flaunts it wherever she goes and gives me the "talk to the tail" move often! She also poses very regally with her paws crossed in her "Princess Pretty Paws" pose. Personality--she's all berner, need I say more? 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) Nope. For the kids. Went from one kid, one dog in a Mazda 626 to two kids, two dogs in a Montana van. We take the back seats out and put up a dividing panel and the dogs ride in the back. It has rear a/c so they are comfortable. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) a) conformation b) obedience trials c) drafting trials d) agility e) therapy work f) tracking g) training classes h) digging to China H and Championship Counter Surfing! 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. Stealing 4 juicy delmonico steaks off the dining room table after my husband brought them in from the grill and returned to the kitchen for other food. She had steak, we had eggs and sausage that night! Also she and Shadow conspired to drag a cushion from the extra large chair and play tug-o-war with it in the back yard one morning while I was out. Beth Oberle Heidi the Berner Shadow the Lab St. Charles, IL USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
FW: HTML free digest - almost!
-Original Message- From: Pat Long & Paul Dangel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:11 PM To: 'Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List' Subject: HTML free digest - almost! We just had a digest that got me all excited, I thought it was an HTML free digest, but there was one email that slipped in! We came closer than we've come in a very long time!! So to all of you who have made special efforts to post in plain text, THANK YOU!! I know it's a pain, but it is greatly appreciated!! And trust me - I know who you are! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
puppy training question
One thing that can help with the jumping behavior, is to teach sit, and down. Also, shake hands etc. The more behaviors that the puppy can be told to do, the better. And, if you are sitting, you can't be jumping etc. Also, go down to puppies level. Puppies jump up to gain attention. If you are at the level of the puppy, they do not need to jump up to you. For the biting, continue to offer them a "legal" thing to chew on. When they bite you, simply, calmly say no, and then give them something that they can chew. This will go away with time. You don't find adult dogs biting there owners! So, it is a self limiting behavior, but you may not want him/her to continue to bit for months! Be consistent. No puppy will learn anything overnight. They need A LOT of persistent reinforcement. You have to be patient. You are dealing with "a baby". Don't expect over-night results. And, take LOTS of pictures! They don't stay little long enough :) Kris Clark and Kris Osojnicki and the Bevy of mostly Berners Haley, Mara, Lexi, Cassie & Niko (& Pearle the Border Collie) Chalet & Tiki (both in loving memory) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: fun survey
1 --- Do you live in c) country 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? outside our bedroom door (His choice) 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Whatever Barney has 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is being so Bernerly 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) No 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) a) conformation b) obedience trials (not yet) c) drafting trials (not yet) d) agility e) therapy work (not yet) f) tracking (not yet) g) training classes 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is.chased the neighbor's cat Claudia Brydon in NW PA Barney OA NAJ AD (Aussie) Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog) Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog)
Return of The Fun Survery!!
1 --- Do you live in? >> a) city >> b) suburbs >> c) country >> d) on Planet Berner In the City of Planet Berner. 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Beside one side of my bed, later on the other side of my bed - sometimes in my bed. He wake himself up and also me by laying in the bed when he ask for cuddling. He think it is too warm to sleep all night in the bed, he use to say so. He is free to sleep were he likes to, it is his home as well as mine and ours. 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? He has a lot of dolls. Vincent call all his toys for dolls - he is a real boy! He love all stuffed animals and the last he has got is the one he use to run after to show when friends are coming home. He often have a toy in his mouth. He loved the little bear who sang "Oh Susanna..." and when we sang the song he run after the right animal toy. Just wonder were the Susanna toys are - probably in a bag waiting for surgery? 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) His ears, we use to say our berners has silky ears. His forehead, the forehead of a very great philosopher! Also when he comes to me in the kitchen, sitting on the floor he says - smiling and with the head marks and pointing out " Mummy, I like some of the tidbits I have in my pot!" And also his body: His front legs and his paws, his front legs are like log´s. Also his whole body of kindness when he smiles and say hello from his nose to his tip of the tail. 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog? No, we have no car. We live very central in Stockholm and we can see all with cars driving around in the evenings to find a parkingplace, sometimes they drive around for hours. We use buses and trains and take a cab or get along with our friends in their car. We like to walk. Vincent has decided not to take a driving licence. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog Parties - he like going to birthday parties, the cakes use to be very good. 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. Vincent is not a naughty boy. He used to lay on the table in our kitchen last summer when I was away from home, but naughty behavior - I think just it was a rather cold place? This morning he tried to wee-wee on another dogowners leg when we was out on the big field there our dogs run and play, but naugthy - dogs/males sometimes use to wee-wee like that. Vincent is not a naughty boy - he is kindness personified. LOVE from your mum Vinci!
Re: Laying down to eat
- Original Message - From: "_Adam Conn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've been meaning to ask this for months. Bison, since > day one, has always eaten his meals laying down. Every > now and then, he'll start from the standing position, > but will always finish flat on the floor. He shows no > sign of changing this behavior. > > Any one else have a "roman eater"? Lliira the Pyr girl. Once in a while Nessie the Newfie. -- Eileen Morgan March 30th Clinic Information: http://www.enter.net/~edlehman/USEAAR2.html The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003
Less inclined to think cancer in spine
Today Moses had his second "official" post amputation, chemo (osteosarcoma) check-up by his specialist at Angell Memorial Animal Hospital in Boston. The doctor is less inclined to feel that there is cancer in the spine since Moses has improved and is more readily and easily ambulatory. So, we hope he is in remission. Xrays will be done every three months, with the next scheduled for May. Moses will continue receiving monthly check-ups at Angell for now. I believe that weekly aquapuncture is helping Moses a great deal. One of his nail coverings came off, was chewed off, who knows, so he will take an antibiotic in case of infection. Moses' attitude is wonderful. Minute by minute, I am inspired by his courage and optimistic outlook. While we were in the examining room waiting for Moses' doctor, I became even more aware of the wisdom in the eyes of an old dog as I looked into Moses', such depth, so different from the gaze of a pup, who has yet to discover life's treasures and know its secrets. Lisa Allen _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
becoming a breeder
Dear Lisa, Yes I know how hard it is to become a breeder. I know that my first BMD may have problems and I may not be able to breed her. I am not looking for that quick fix. This is going to be a passionate hobby of mine. I don't want or even think I will become rich off being a breeder (thats why I'm becoming a Real Estate Salesperson). I just want to share the great qualities of the BMD with others. I love dogs and I love the qualities of the Bernese. I believe I can do this breed right. I know I can do this and do this well. This is going to be a long hard road and I am ready to work hard. Sincerely, Kristin _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Happy Birthday JR
JR (which stands for Just Right) is not a Berner however he's lived with Berners since he was 3 years old. JR was born at the SPCA and I adopted him at 6 weeks of age. We have been constant companions ever since!!! JR is a shepherd/retriever cross (or we think anyhow!) and is obedience trained to Utility level. JR has his ASCA CD (Australian Shepherd Club of America) as they allow crossbreds to compete in obedience as long as they are registered with a registering body. JR is registered with the UKC American Mixed Breed Registry. To register your crossbred, you must show proof of spay or neuter. Anyhow I digress, I just wanted to share with everyone that my great boy is 10 years old today!! Kim Morrow Susa Reg'd Saskatoon, SK http://www.bernesedogs.com
Eosinophilic Gastroenteritis to Pancreatic Cancer -- long, with Questions
Hello again from Montreal. When I last posted on Jan. 29, our 7.5 yr. BMC Mick had just been diagnosed with Eosinophilic Gastroenteritis. He responded well to steroids and antacids, but feeding was a big problem -- none of the hypoallergenic diets were working. Mick kept losing weight, and we couldn't get any follow-up from the vet Internist! We went to the University of Montreal Faculty of Veterinary Medecine "companion animal clinic" for a follow-up visit. A "total body X-ray" showed some suspicious shadows in the abdomen and the ultrasound that afternoon identified a mass close to the pancreas; biopsy results the next day showed cancerous cells. I'd never known exactly the meaning of the expression "devastated", as applied to your own state of being until that day. We were more completely devastated when, at surgery on Feb. 17, two tumours were located in the pancreas. Mick underwent a "debulking" of tumour mass and after a day or so of rough going in the ICU, he came home with us, walking into his house with a grin, and then flopping onto the floor for 48 hours of near continuous, contented sleep. He has gained weight (15 lbs. in three weeks) by eating a wide variety of fresh cooked meat protein, along with cheese and bread and the occassional multi--Vit. and has had no vomiting or significant bowel problem since the surgery. He's needed two other procedures to repair a wound hernia left by the Vet. Surgery resident when he closed, but we are glad to have gone ahead with the "medium" choice -- vs. closing right away having done nothing or removing the pancreas and whatever else possible. Pancreatic tumours are rarely caught and treated at an early enough stage. The pathology is carcinoma, with some abnormal secreting cells -- this is not lymphoma or malignant histiocytosis or a sarcoma or even an insulinoma -- and treatment for these is not usually very effective. Since Mick is doing well and the tumour did not show metastasis to the lymph nodes taken, we have decided on a little chemotherapy. Three weeks ago he had a dose of Adriamycin, and last Thursday his second injection, this time with Carboplatin (Paraplat). Does anyone out there have any experience with these drugs and BMD's? The Adriamycin was well tolerated, but the Carboplat seems to have made Mick lethargic, acting as if he is achy (flu-like symptoms), and made him nauseous and anorexic. He also seems to have some rear leg weakness & wobble which developed very soon after the Carboplat. We are watching out for pancreatitis or infection, but we believe these are chemotherapy side-effects at the moment. And now some general comments. Mick's early symptoms were almost exactly the same as "the gulps". (Thanks for this info!) But Mick had never had any such symptoms before, and they worsened over a course of weeks. One of our vets told us that pancreatic tumours are associated with "strange" oral behaviours in some animals, ie. sidewise grating of the teeth in cats! We now think of Mick's gulping, swallowing, etc. as his "cancer symptoms". The eosinophilic gastroenteritis was also likely secondary to the tumour, and was treated effectively with the steroids -- repeat biopsy at the time of surgery was normal. Please consider investigating any such abnormal oral/esophageal/gastric behaviours in your Berner, especially if they arise and worsen in a relatively short period of time. We are still very sad that Mick will not be with us for the time we had hoped. The prognosis is still a matter of weeks to months. But he was out walking in the Spring weather today, looking at the squirrels, listening to the traffic, sniffing everything and everywhere, and going up to strangers and expecting at least a rub and maybe a treat. We love him and he loves us and he will go on ahead of us with dignity. When it is his time. Will keep you posted. Thanks. Fred. Salevsky, Helen Macgregor, and Mick
Re: PPO Needs OFA translations!!!
> > After receiving the pedigree of a potential soon-to-be Berner pup, I need > help deciphering the OFA numbers, etc. OFA 4805G24F, EL1751 This is a female who was evaluated for hips and elbows at age 24 months. She has normal hips that received a rating of "good" which is the middle ground of normal hips. Her elbows are normal. No "gradation" for normal elbows is assigned by OFA. Dogs with affected elbows or hips will not receive a certification number for that particular site (joint) evaluation. Ruth Reynolds
Re: PPO Needs OFA translations!!!
"I need help deciphering the OFA numbers, etc." Hi, You did not sign your post but in answer to your question, yes, you are reading the hip numbers correctly. Elbows do not list a grade, they only get an elbow number if the elbows are both clear. If anyone is interested I wrote a very detailed post to the Berner-L on reading OFA/GDC numbers and it should be in the archieves for the berner-l. Pat?? Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." Bill Cosby
Zeus' Acupuncture-addittional info
Everyone must make decisions that they feel are in the best interest of their dog and their dog's individual situation. This being said, some of you may not recall Zeus' history and I am listing it here so some of you may be better able to understand why I have chosen not to pursue bilateral hip replacements for my sweet, wonderful boy. I became aware of Zeus' orthopedic problems when he was five months old. Started doing x-rays at 6 months, that did not show anything. Next x-rays at 9 months showed severe bilateral elbow dysplasia and mild hip dysplasia. Elbow surgery was done for FCP's and to correct the radial/humoral incongruency which was contributing to the elbow problems. Four weeks of strict crate rest, then extensive rehab. All seemed to be going well. Then clinical signs of hip dysplasia and patella luxation started. X-rays were not great, but he was still having good function and quality of life. Eight months later, suspected torn cruciate turned out to be significant progression of HD. Both hips are severe, "horrible" are the words of the examing vet. Elbows doing OK, but are thickened from arthritis, have very limited range of motion, and some swelling. What Zeus lacks in soundness, he more than makes up for in love and temperament. I am managing him in the manner I feel is in his best interest. No flames please. I had hoped acupuncture would help to increase his quality of life and am exploring options to try it again. Karen J.
PPO Needs OFA translations!!!
I have got to be the happiest PPO on the planet... I close on a house big enough to home my dream dog on Friday, and there are litters that are due around May 1st!!! I'd like to say thanks to Whispering Pines Kennel for answering my questions, allowing me to gush about their beautiful dog, and letting me tag along for a Berner bath at the show in Raleigh last Saturday. After receiving the pedigree of a potential soon-to-be Berner pup, I need help deciphering the OFA numbers, etc. OFA 4805G24F, EL1751 is what is listed for the Dam. I think the first number is the Hip cert. my translation is that she was certified Good at 24 months, and is a female. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have no clue what so ever as to the elbow cert. Can anyone clarify? I know the Sire (and Dam's parents) have Excellent (according to my translation of their OFA numbers; OFA 3870E) hips, but the elbow number I have no idea of how to translate. Thanks in advance for all of your help :)
Re: Fun Survey
1 --- Do you live in In the suburbs of a city on Planet Berner, with the country and forest right outside our doorstep. 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Under my bed, which is enclosed by walls on 2 sides. It was his idea, not mine. When Griffin was around 7 months, he started having trouble getting in and out from under there so I tried to convince him that sleeping beside the bed would be so much better. He was miserable. He wanted his spot. The only solution was to ask a carpenter to fashion new, oak legs for the bed that could accommodate a 55 kg 4-legged furry limbo dancer. 3 --- What is your dog's favourite toy? A stuffed squeaky mallard duck, though the giant stuffed slipper in the form of a tiger's paw is still a favourite. 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) His smile. 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(so) No 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) i) Griffin is a champion pedagogue. He gives his Mom daily lessons on the real meaning of life. 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. Back in the times of B.B. (Before Berners) I enjoyed knitting in my spare time. One particularly challenging project was a beautiful pair of traditional Scandinavian mittens, knitted on 4 needles in several colours of hand spun wool with a black background. Because of the intricate pattern, I decided to take a pause when the first mitten was completed. I remember my feeling of pride and triumph when, 4 years later, I had finally finished the second mitten. Shortly after that, Griffin walked into my life and ate the thumb off the second mitten. Since I no longer have any spare time, there will be no third mitten. Cecilia Ståhl & Griffin in Stockholm, Sweden
Breeding
Hi All, I'm hoping you all can help me with this. I understand the definitions of in-breeding, line-breeding and out-crossing, what I don't know are the pros and cons of each. Any information you can provide would be helpful. Thanks Susan
Re: BNN at the National?
I don't know about BNN at the National, but I do know about BBW. Berner Bay Watch is the daily newsletter at the National Specialty. You can subscribe to BBW and receive a copy of the newsletter by email. You will get to see the news, photos and results from the day before it goes to print. As a subscriber you will have a printable copy in your email box before the folks at the specialty see it. As a subscriber you will get bonus pages that will not go to print. You can subscribe to all issues and bonus pages for $15. To subscribe go to www.PayPal.com and send $15 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will receive a confirmation response and a sample page. If you have any questions send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Whalen 2003 Specialty Reporter Berner Way Watch Newsletter Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike and Terri Whalen and Reno "Int, Am Ch Best Bet's Reno Gambler CGC TT" and Cash, "Ch Best Bet's Cash Advance" Reno's little Brother
Ruth and Volume
Hi Ruth, Just wanted to clarify the issue in case anyone out there thought it was four cups of dry kibble at one meal. By the time my 2 cups of dry kibble are soaked it would be pretty much the same volume as you're feeding:-) Rose
RE: Bloat
Hi Anne, Your quote in your post was not mine:-) It was Ruth Reynolds comment that I highlighted in my post to address an issue related specifically to volume of food fed. The issue of volume can be equally applied to water and anyone who has taken a large draught of cold water will remember the pain in the stomach it can cause, it is all to do with weight and stress on the supporting stomach ligaments than result in torsion. You are right there are many causes of bloat and while the stomach may be empty fermentation in the gut can also result in a distended stomach ie bloat with the risk of torsion. Rose T. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 24, 2003 11:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bloat In a message dated 03/24/2003 9:09:34 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I never feed more than four cups of food to a Berner at one time." >> While discussing bloat and factors that might contribute to the bloat risk, keep in mind that not all cases are directly connected to food in the stomach! Just this summer, a young female drank quite a bit of water as she was warm from an unaccustomed amount of exercise during the day; she was in a new location and very shortly, she demonstrated bloat symptoms. Fortunately, temporary veterinary care and support were immediately available and kept her alive until she was transported several miles to a surgical site where her torsion and volvulus were reduced and a gastropexy performed. It had been many hours since food had been ingested so don't get a false sense of security because your dog has an empty tummy - other factors can contribute to this deadly condition. Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 1/2 yrs.) & Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue Cavalier,2 yrs.) BMDCSEW Tracking Test Chair/Sec. NE ILL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html
Re: Laying down to eat
Dear List, Stevie has laid down to eat ever since he was just a wee pup. We tried to feed him in raised bowls, since we had been told that this was proper for big dogs. (I am glad now that he was a lazy bum and didnt like to eat in this fashion!!!) He will take a bite or two, and when he figures that this is dinner he lays down with the bowl between his legs, if the bowl is a bit too far away, he sticks his chin in it and pulls it towards himself. When he is finished eating and if the bowl is empty, whether he is hungry or not, he stands up, picks up the bowl and brings it to me, or will sit there with is in his mouth. It is stainless steel. Also, with his big stainless steel water bowl, if it is getting low on water he will pick this up as well and deposit at my feet, empty or not!! Likewise with his kitty's stainless steel bowl. I think he has a fetish with stainless steel!! Gotta love him!! Karen and Stevie NB, Canada
Re: survey
1 --- Do you live in>> rural, Lake City, CO>> 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night?>Mahkah, our berner boy, sleeps on a huge dog bed downstairs and Sienna, BARC rescue sleeps upstairs on her dog bed right beside us.> 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Mahkah has a little pink mouse-gift from his human grandmother, which he loves to toss in the air and chase down. Sienna has not quite got the hang of playing yet, but she sometimes mouths Mahkah's pink mouse:)> 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature - the way he yawns and stretches and whines when he thinks he is not getting enough love(which is all the time), Sienna copies him, so now they yawn and stretch in unison.5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s)> We are planning on a 4 wheel drive van with lots of room for dogs, but right now they have to make do with a honda accord and a 1970 scout. 6 --- Your dog participates in everything we do- they do or go with us. > 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is.We left Mahkah in the house, after a long day(many walks, a good hike and dinner), so we could have dinner right next door, he proceeded to gather every shoe in the house and pile them on his bed, and I'm talking every shoe, no damage but what a mess!:) Thanks, that was fun! Lydia McNeese, Mahkah-almost 2 years old and Sienna-5 years old. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
DRYERS
I am going to purchase a BOOSTER BATH in the next couple of weeks, so I can bathe my girls at home. I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion on a dryer. Carol, Holli and Annie Northern California
the survey
1 --- Do you live in a) city b) suburbs c) country d) on Planet Berner city: the inner city of Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Calgary has to be one of the best for off-leash parks in North America 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? In between my husband and I on the bed, usually with the 3 cats snuggled next to him. 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? As many stuffies as he can fit in his mouth at one time 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) The ability to bark on cue when you ask him "Thor, who let the dogs out?" 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) Yes, bought an Impala for air conditioning and room for the dogs, now in the process of buying a mini van since we added a rescue TM and now have 3 big dogs. 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) d) agility: but hated the tunnel. Not even the yummiest treat in the world could convince him to do that one! We gave up! h) digging to China: but not as bad as his Tibetan Mastiff siblings, though. 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. Thor is an angel. The only bad things he did was to steal dad's pizza waiting by the door for lunch. Only the saran wrap reappear outside on the lawn later on. The master is Taku, our TM. She was able to take a whole tupperware container of chili on to my white couch, peel the lid off and eat it without spilling a drop or having exploding butt after. That's talent! Liz Murray Calgary Alberta
Fw: Return of The Fun Survery!!
Questionairre!!! > 1 --- Do you live in > a) city > b) suburbs > c) country > d) on Planet Berner Landed on Planet Berner on March 6,2002 and are patiently awaiting other residents > 2 --- Where does your dog spend the night? Stevie can sleep anywhere he wants to, but he is never more than 3 feet away from me. > 3 --- What is your dog's favorite toy? Stevie's favourite toy without a doubt is his kitty, George, he carries him around by the scruff of his neck and licks him like a mother cat would. > 4 --- Your dog's most remarkable feature is (fill in the blank) I might have answered this question differently 2 months ago, but now, Stevie's most remarkable feature is his determination and heart. Even though this is not a visual feature, it comes through loud and clear. > 5 --- You bought a new car for your dog(s) No, but if I ever win the lottery, Stevie and I want a HUMMER!!Black or Gun Metal Grey please!! He deserves it doesn't he??Plus he knows that it is Mum's favourite ultimate SUV!! > 6 --- Your dog participates in (feel free to list any titles your dog has won) Stevie had just started in Obedience before his accident, and did not complete. But once he is well and healthy we shall continue, and we would really like to try our hand at drafting. The only title that he has won, is the "key to my heart", but that counts for alot > 7 --- The naughtiest thing that your dog has done is. When Stevie was about 7months old, we were out to the barn to play with my horse. Stevie got into the machine shed and decided that the large roll of baler twine was an interesting toy. I was busy in the barn with my big girl, and never had a worry before about what Stevie was up to whenever we were at the farm. When I brought my mare out to go to the arena to ride, everywhere that I cast my eyes were lengths and lengths of bright orange baler twine. Altogether he unrolled approx. 2000' of twine. He had pulled it , chewed it, and pulled it some more. When I finally followed the trail, Stevie was happily sleeping under the tractor on top of a lovely bed of bright orange twine!! We took him to the vet as well as we werent sure as to whether he had consumed any of it!! xrays showed minimum amount in his tummy and it passed with no problems, however he did have a significant amount in between his teeth, very expensive dental floss!!
Zeus' Acupuncture
Hi All, Zeus went for his acupuncture treatment yesterday. Unfortunately he was not very cooperative, it is so painful for anyone to get near his rear end. He "screamed" each time the vet tried to place the needles and was struggling to get up. We tried rescue remedy, and he seemed calmer but still was not cooperative enough to get enough needles in for a full treatment...sigh. The vet also gave us some instruction in pet massage. He loves the calm massage involving the ears and the "snail" massage as long I don't get too close to the hip areas. I also just started using ice packs in the hip area, and he seems to like this. I have also added another holistic supplement for him with Yucca and Boswellia. Deramaxx is a newer pain/anti-inflammatory drug that we are using as well. My other Berner, Titan, seems to understand that Zeus is not feeling well and has been the perfect "brother". It is quite amazing actually. Zeus still is able to play for short periods, seems happy and able to enjoy life. He has a true Berner heart... Enjoying each day and taking it one step at a time. Karen Jacobs in MI with Zeus and Titan
Puppy Training Questions
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Pet therapy - starting young - and other things!!!
Winston was a Therapy Dog and he enjoyed visiting the nursing home and getting so much attention. The residents loved having a big dog visit because he was so gentle and calm and they didn't have to stoop over to pet him. Of course, he'd do the obligatory "Berner Sit on your Shoes" and the "Berner Lean," but he did the lean ever so gently with the residents. Now that Winston is at the Rainbow Bridge, Nick is carrying on the Therapy Dog visits. Nick is three months old today and he is such a sweetie. Thank you Libby, Kesner, for entrusting this wonderful Berner Baby Boy to Bill and me. My husband, Bill, in addition to teaching at the University of Pittsburgh ("Go Panthers!! Playing in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA on Thursday evening!!!,) does consulting at senior care facilities and at in particular at a senior care facility that is about a mile from our home. His stepfather is a resident in the assisted living part of that facility. My relocation department has an affinity program with that facility and others in our area, where we list and sell the homes of people who are coming to live at the facility. The administrator of the facility just loved Winston and sent us such a a caring card and note when Winston crossed the Bridge. She was so thrilled to learn that we had a new Berner puppy and she calls Bill during the days he is not teaching sometimes and asks him to bring Nick to visit. We also take Nick to visit when we go to see Grandpa. It takes about 20 minutes to go from the lobby of the facility to Grandpa's room, which is only about a 50 foot walk. Everyone just loves Nick. Last night when we visited, Nick showed off by doing the nicest straight 'sit' and just stayed there looking up at me. Of course periodically I gave him a piece of his kibble and he just waited and watched for the next piece. They were all impressed. They couldn't believe that he would be just 3 months old today. It was great socialization - he got to interact with a worker with a long beard, several people of different races and ethnic groups, people with canes, wheelchairs and walkers and then we visited in Grandpa's room and he sniffed everything, then laid down and went to sleep. What fun!! Nick is one very socialized Berner. At the Potomac Valley Specialty several weeks ago, he must have met every person in attendance and most of the Berners there, too. He sat at my feet at ringside for the whole show and either watched was was going on in the ring or slept or played with the people around him. He loved all of the attention and was happy to meet people of all ages and sizes. If you wanted to find Nick or Cathy Shipe's darling puppy, Callahan, all you had to do was to look for a crowd of people "oohing and ahing." Aren't Berner puppies the cutest thing in the world? After the show on Saturday, Pat Long and I did Berner photos for several people. When we were done, we did a whole row of Nick, who was just 9 1/2 weeks at that time. He sat and posed for 24 photos and they all turned out very nicely. If you are going to the Specialty in Long Beach next month, be sure to have Pat take photos of your Berners. It is so nice to "capture" those puppies while they are so cute and small. I can't tell you how many people have told us that they were so happy to have had photos taken by Pat because they lost their Berners not long after the photos were done. It's a real bargain, too. Pat charges $50 but only $20 of that goes to cover her expenses and the rest goes to a Berner fund of your choice. You also get a full set of photos plus the negatives!! We try to get the photos back so you get them the day after the photos are taken. I think that we've raised about $10,000 for Berner funds doing these portraits. Pat, is that number accurate? We will be doing the photos from Wednesday through Saturday from about 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Sunday, we get to watch conformation!!! Don't miss out on this opportunity. Joye Neff and Nick (Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Pet Therapy - starting young - and other things!!
Winston was a Therapy Dog and he enjoyed visiting the nursing home and getting so much attention. The residents loved having a big dog visit because he was so gentle and calm and they didn't have to stoop over to pet him. Of course, he'd do the obligatory "Berner Sit on your Shoes" and the "Berner Lean," but he did the lean ever so gently with the residents. Now that Winston is at the Rainbow Bridge, Nick is carrying on the Therapy Dog visits. Nick is three months old today and he is such a sweetie. Thank you Libby, Kesner, for entrusting this wonderful Berner Baby Boy to Bill and me. My husband, Bill, in addition to teaching at the University of Pittsburgh ("Go Panthers!! Playing in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA on Thursday evening!!!,) does consulting at senior care facilities and at in particular at a senior care facility that is about a mile from our home. His stepfather is a resident in the assisted living part of that facility. My relocation department has an affinity program with that facility and others in our area, where we list and sell the homes of people who are coming to live at the facility. The administrator of the facility just loved Winston and sent us such a a caring card and note when Winston crossed the Bridge. She was so thrilled to learn that we had a new Berner puppy and she calls Bill during the days he is not teaching sometimes and asks him to bring Nick to visit. We also take Nick to visit when we go to see Grandpa. It takes about 20 minutes to go from the lobby of the facility to Grandpa's room, which is only about a 50 foot walk. Everyone just loves Nick. Last night when we visited, Nick showed off by doing the nicest straight 'sit' and just stayed there looking up at me. Of course periodically I gave him a piece of his kibble and he just waited and watched for the next piece. They were all impressed. They couldn't believe that he would be just 3 months old today. It was great socialization - he got to interact with a worker with a long beard, several people of different races and ethnic groups, people with canes, wheelchairs and walkers and then we visited in Grandpa's room and he sniffed everything, then laid down and went to sleep. What fun!! Nick is one very socialized Berner. At the Potomac Valley Specialty several weeks ago, he must have met every person in attendance and most of the Berners there, too. He sat at my feet at ringside for the whole show and either watched was was going on in the ring or slept or played with the people around him. He loved all of the attention and was happy to meet people of all ages and sizes. If you wanted to find Nick or Cathy Shipe's darling puppy, Callahan, all you had to do was to look for a crowd of people "oohing and ahing." Aren't Berner puppies the cutest thing in the world? After the show on Saturday, Pat Long and I did Berner photos for several people. When we were done, we did a whole row of Nick, who was just 9 1/2 weeks at that time. He sat and posed for 24 photos and they all turned out very nicely. If you are going to the Specialty in Long Beach next month, be sure to have Pat take photos of your Berners. It is so nice to "capture" those puppies while they are so cute and small. I can't tell you how many people have told us that they were so happy to have had photos taken by Pat because they lost their Berners not long after the photos were done. It's a real bargain, too. Pat charges $50 but only $20 of that goes to cover her expenses and the rest goes to a Berner fund of your choice. You also get a full set of photos plus the negatives!! We try to get the photos back so you get them the day after the photos are taken. I think that we've raised about $10,000 for Berner funds doing these portraits. Pat, is that number accurate? We will be doing the photos from Wednesday through Saturday from about 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Sunday, we get to watch conformation!!! Don't miss out on this opportunity. Joye Neff and Nick (Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Re: Laying down to eat
Adam asked Any one else have a "roman eater"? Yes, Molly frequently eats with the dish between her paws. That's not very convenient in the kitchen, so she will retreat to the dining room rug, knowing that her neurotic mommy will follow with the dish. There the usuall ladylike front legs open for her meal. I've always thought it was because of her bad elbows, that standing with her weight thrust forward as they must when standing to eat from a dish on the floor must be uncomfortable. I tried putting her dish on a stool one day, and she gave me the look that says, "Mommy, have you gone mad?" Martha Hoverson and Molly (Will someone please tell my mommy and daddy I am well now? They won't let me run around like a wild girl, and I really, really want to!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, Maine _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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I wanted to say thank you once again to those who offered support and advice over Kelby's elbow dysplasia. We were going with a non surgery option until I couldn't stand to see her in such pain anymore. She went downhill too rapidly for my liking. We had surgery two weeks ago and her recovery has been incredible. The surgeon is amazed and I think even at this early stage it was the right thing to do for us. She's a different dog and of course she thinks she's all better! The stitches have just come out and now we keep her quiet and wait and see. Thanks again. I'm not necessarily advocating surgery. It was an extremely tough decision but in this case I think the right one. Jess MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Find our more.
RE: BNN at the National?
Andrea, Good question, and I don't know the answer! But I do know that Bob Torstenson spends a good bit of money to do the Berner News Network, and I know he's gotten a few donations in the past - but not nearly enough to cover his costs! His efforts are always tremendously appreciated, and I'd just like to say, THANKS!! Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA -Original Message- From: Andrea Stefanac Anyone know if the Berner News Network will be at the National this year to keep all of us stuck at home informed? I sure hope so! :o)