RE: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Tom, I'm sorry, I didn't realize! The 2005 people just got the information about the Specialty? Or have they had longer than 2 years? Didn't they realize a year ago or more that they were doing this? Wasn't that 3 years, or is my math really rusty? Couldn't we have used a site that we had used before? Do we really need to have someplace different all the time? We've had some lovely sites in the past, why is there a feeling that we can't ever use the same site again? Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA -Original Message- >Generally it's easy to arrange a specialty four years in advance (which >the BMDCA doesn't do). It is possible to do one three years out, and >difficult to arrange one that is two years away. Do the math -- 2005 is >two years away.
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Thanks for the explanation. While I'm sure my presence won't be missed I think it's too bad that as usual the BMDCA has shown that the show is more important than the dog Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:14:38 -0400 Tom Jaskiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Why > >would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area > of the > >country that this is the only place to have a show? > > > The short answer is yes. > > It is amazingly difficult to find a good specialty show site in the > east > (and probably everywhere else, too). The major issues are the hotel > > rooms for a large number of people and dogs, the dog show space, and > the > banquet/meeting room space for specialty events. > > Then there are the conflicts with all breed shows. Any show within > 250 > miles of the specialty has to give you permission to hold your show > and > forgo classes for your breed. Every site and date in the east has > such > a conflict to resolve -- and they usually come in twos (a Saturday > and > Sunday show). Sometimes you can't get permission. > > Generally it's easy to arrange a specialty four years in advance > (which > the BMDCA doesn't do). It is possible to do one three years out, > and > difficult to arrange one that is two years away. Do the math -- > 2005 is > two years away. > > --Tom Jaskiewicz From New Hampshire, where the bitches > are > (& Gita & Kepler)strong, the dogs are good looking, and > all > [EMAIL PROTECTED]the puppies are above average. > > > >
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Thank you, Tom sara >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Why >>would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the >>country that this is the only place to have a show? >> >The short answer is yes. > >It is amazingly difficult to find a good specialty show site in the east >(and probably everywhere else, too). The major issues are the hotel >rooms for a large number of people and dogs, the dog show space, and the >banquet/meeting room space for specialty events. > >Then there are the conflicts with all breed shows. Any show within 250 >miles of the specialty has to give you permission to hold your show and >forgo classes for your breed. Every site and date in the east has such >a conflict to resolve -- and they usually come in twos (a Saturday and >Sunday show). Sometimes you can't get permission. > >Generally it's easy to arrange a specialty four years in advance (which >the BMDCA doesn't do). It is possible to do one three years out, and >difficult to arrange one that is two years away. Do the math -- 2005 is >two years away. > >--Tom Jaskiewicz From New Hampshire, where the bitches are > (& Gita & Kepler)strong, the dogs are good looking, and all > [EMAIL PROTECTED]the puppies are above average. > >
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the country that this is the only place to have a show? The short answer is yes. It is amazingly difficult to find a good specialty show site in the east (and probably everywhere else, too). The major issues are the hotel rooms for a large number of people and dogs, the dog show space, and the banquet/meeting room space for specialty events. Then there are the conflicts with all breed shows. Any show within 250 miles of the specialty has to give you permission to hold your show and forgo classes for your breed. Every site and date in the east has such a conflict to resolve -- and they usually come in twos (a Saturday and Sunday show). Sometimes you can't get permission. Generally it's easy to arrange a specialty four years in advance (which the BMDCA doesn't do). It is possible to do one three years out, and difficult to arrange one that is two years away. Do the math -- 2005 is two years away. --Tom Jaskiewicz From New Hampshire, where the bitches are (& Gita & Kepler)strong, the dogs are good looking, and all [EMAIL PROTECTED]the puppies are above average.
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
What about the regional group that is planning to host the show? Why would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the country that this is the only place to have a show? The BMDCA had a show in San Mateo several years ago that surprised me since at the time San Mateo was leading the country in restrictive/anti breeding regulations. Shows are held routinely at Purina Farms located in Missouri. None of this seems to matter to anyone or to any breed clubs or the dog fancy as our dollars continue to support areas that are opposed to the welfare and breeding of dogs. Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Pat, Thanks for clarifying my email. I'm a bit geographic challenged when it comes to the Northeast. Thought the club will host the Specialty in New York State. Please everyone. Let Suzanne know what you think about this. Sorry Suzanne. > I'm afraid that I'm not kidding on this one. I wish I were! Thanks for > getting your feedback in to the club so quickly, I'm sorry to do this to > Suzanne, but the club needs to know BEFORE any decisions become > finalized! (Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > And just to clarify, it's not that our money would be going to the > millers, but supporting the financial well being of a county that > defends their millers with zeal! There is a higher concentration of > puppy mills in Lancaster County than anywhere else in the country. If the county defends their millers, this is bad, very bad. I'm just shocked right now and cannot find the right words. Sylvia Katvala Tucson, AZ A friends mix breed petstore bought pup just survived parvo. Was sold at 6 weeks of age(:
RE: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Sylvia, I'm afraid that I'm not kidding on this one. I wish I were! Thanks for getting your feedback in to the club so quickly, I'm sorry to do this to Suzanne, but the club needs to know BEFORE any decisions become finalized! (Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]) And just to clarify, it's not that our money would be going to the millers, but supporting the financial well being of a county that defends their millers with zeal! There is a higher concentration of puppy mills in Lancaster County than anywhere else in the country. Pat -Original Message- From: Sylvia Katvala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Pat, You are kidding about holding the Specialty in Lancaster County or? Please tell me this is not so. I was saving money to go to the 2005 Specialty, but NOT if it's in Lancaster County. Will not give the millers any of my money. Will email the Suzanne Hostetter, the President of the BMDCA and tell her too. Sylvia Katvala Tucson, AZ
Re: Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
Pat, You are kidding about holding the Specialty in Lancaster County or? Please tell me this is not so. I was saving money to go to the 2005 Specialty, but NOT if it's in Lancaster County. Will not give the millers any of my money. Will email the Suzanne Hostetter, the President of the BMDCA and tell her too. Sylvia Katvala Tucson, AZ
Reminder - the Lancaster County PA Boycott
For those of you who have any cause to come spend money in Lancaster County, just a reminder! A boycott has been underway in Lancaster County for some time now. The representatives of the county at the state level have been able to hold up any and almost all legislation that might curtail the rights of their citizens to produce substandard puppies in the most appalling conditions imaginable. A boycott has squeezed their rather substantial tourist industry dramatically enough to make them more interested in reconsidering that position. We still have a way to go, but I for one would refuse to contribute financially to the county (as I have been doing for several years now) - and I will do my best to make that position understandable to any and all. In case you need additional information about the boycott, please see: http://www.hua.org/Prisoners/millpetition1.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AdoptAnimals/message/6386 http://www.goodsamaritanpetcenter.net/animalsmills.htm Here's a question for you all. If the BMDCA were to hold a national event in the Northeast area that you would normally attend, and you would choose NOT to attend were that event held in Lancaster County PA, please let the BMDCA president know that. Send your email to Suzanne Hostetter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell her whether you would honor a boycott in Lancaster County and not go to a club event at that site. And please do it today!! Thank you in advance! I've been struggling with issues in Lancaster County for too many years to want to support the blasted place now! Watchung - how many rescues have you gotten that were bred in Lancaster? Potomac, how many ads do you see that advertise Berners bred by the many backyard breeders in Lancaster? And those aren't the worst of what Lancaster County produces. I've seen rescue dogs from mills there, I have to believe that there is a special place in Hell warming up for the owners of these mills. Pat Long Berwyn PA
