Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-21 Thread Josh Armour
The data that goes through rim is encrypted though from the phone to the
server.

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MobileOps - Sysadmin
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Sebastian Piech spi...@xanai.pl wrote:

 (It's my first post here so hello everybody)


 At 20.07.2010 20:06, Josh Armour wrote:

 That issue is users giving (or being
 comfortable with giving) their credentials to another company.  Maybe we
 are just a little too paranoid over here?


 Josh, few posts before you also wrote that no matter how reputable the
 company, users should simply not be sharing their user and password.
 Generally you're right with this all but notice that using BlackBerry,
 regardless BIS or BES solution, means sending your data (not only
 credentials) to other parties: to the RIM company and then to wireless
 operators.

 However it's a little bit off-topic but not only BB makes such security
 issues. It's a part of general problem with using third party solutions to
 sharing company data (instant messaging, videoconference software, etc.).



 Best Regards
 Sebastian Piech

 Xanai Research

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Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-20 Thread Jonathan Evenden
BES is outbound - just don't block outbound and  you're fine. You're
blocking inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.

 

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From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing
company email

 

HDawg,

 

Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:

BIS IP Range

206.51.26.0/24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

206.53.144.0/20

216.9.240.0/20

67.233.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19

 

Another post on your site
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-fire
wall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html shows the
same IP range for BES:

BES IP Range

206.51.26.0 /24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

216.9.240.0/20

206.53.144.0/20

67.223.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19

 

Which means that I can't block those IP's or BES stops working as well.


 

Back to the drawing board...

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |
www.papamurphys.com http://www.papamurphys.com 

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing
company email

 

HDawg,

 

This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list
that shows the BES IP's?  I'd want to make sure that they were allowed,
the ranges provided for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn't be surprised
if they overlap to some degree.

 

Thanks!

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |
www.papamurphys.com http://www.papamurphys.com 

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing
company email

 

BIS can also use OWA. See:
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-fire
wall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html for a list
of what IP's BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound
connections at the firewall and you've blocked BIS.

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing
company email

 

BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it's turned off?

 

Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party
EAS bridge like AstraSync.

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:55 AM
To: 'bes-admins@dataoutages.com'
Subject: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing
company email

 

I just found out that we have people with personal Blackberries
accessing their company email, they are definitely not set up on my BES,
so I'm guessing they must be using BIS.  How can I prevent them from
accessing their company email on their personal devices?  I know it's
not via IMAP or POP3, we have that turned off at the Exchange level.

 

Thanks!

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |
www.papamurphys.com http://www.papamurphys.com 



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Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-20 Thread Darhl Thomason
I saw that.  I had already sent this one before his reply hit my inbox.

That's what I'm configuring now.

Thanks everyone for the thoughts, ideas, and solutions.

d

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.comhttp://www.papamurphys.com

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Evenden
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:08 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

BES is outbound - just don't block outbound and  you're fine. You're blocking 
inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.

--
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Director of IT Consulting
MCP - Microsoft Certified Professional
TNTMAX, LLC.
Technology Solutions by Design
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[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

HDawg,

Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:
BIS IP Range

206.51.26.0/24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

206.53.144.0/20

216.9.240.0/20

67.233.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19


Another post on your site 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
 shows the same IP range for BES:
BES IP Range

206.51.26.0 /24

193.109.81.0/24

204.187.87.0/24

216.9.240.0/20

206.53.144.0/20

67.223.64.0/19

93.186.16.0/20

68.171.224.0/19


Which means that I can't block those IP's or BES stops working as well.

Back to the drawing board...

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.comhttp://www.papamurphys.com

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

HDawg,

This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that shows 
the BES IP's?  I'd want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
provided for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn't be surprised if they overlap 
to some degree.

Thanks!

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy's Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 | 
www.papamurphys.comhttp://www.papamurphys.com

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

BIS can also use OWA. See: 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
 for a list of what IP's BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound 
connections at the firewall and you've blocked BIS.

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it's turned off?

Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party EAS 
bridge like AstraSync.

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:55 AM
To: 'bes-admins@dataoutages.com'
Subject: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company email

I just found out that we have people with personal Blackberries accessing their 
company email, they are definitely not set up on my BES, so I'm guessing they 
must be using BIS

Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-20 Thread Don Andrews
I think you are just paranoid enough.





From: Josh Armour jarm...@google.com
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. 
bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:06:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

So that takes care of the actual mail delivery issue but there is a lurking 
issue with BIS access.  That issue is users giving (or being comfortable with 
giving) their credentials to another company.  Maybe we are just a little too 
paranoid over here?  That is what I think most institutions are getting at when 
they decide to block BIS access.  Don't get me wrong, its important to block 
new 
data from getting out onto a phone with no device management or policy 
enforcement.  But the user is also a problem in those cases..


--
Josh Armour
MobileOps - Sysadmin
jarm...@google.com
(541) 205-4262
--




On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Evenden jeven...@tntmax.com wrote:

BES is outbound – just don’t block outbound and  you’re fine. You’re blocking 
inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.
 
-- 
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Director of IT Consulting
MCP - Microsoft Certified Professional
TNTMAX, LLC.
Technology Solutions by Design
0101010001001110010101000110110101110000
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From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM

To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email
 
HDawg,
 
Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:
BIS IP Range 
206.51.26.0/24 
193.109.81.0/24 
204.187.87.0/24 
206.53.144.0/20 
216.9.240.0/20 
67.233.64.0/19 
93.186.16.0/20 
68.171.224.0/19 
 
Another post on your site 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
 shows the same IP range for BES:
BES IP Range 
206.51.26.0 /24 
193.109.81.0/24 
204.187.87.0/24 
216.9.240.0/20 
206.53.144.0/20 
67.223.64.0/19 
93.186.16.0/20 
68.171.224.0/19 
 
Which means that I can’t block those IP’s or BES stops working as well.  
 
Back to the drawing board…
 
Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
HDawg,
 
This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that 
shows 
the BES IP’s?  I’d want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
provided 
for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn’t be surprised if they overlap to some 
degree.
 
Thanks!
 
Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
BIS can also use OWA. See: 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
 for a list of what IP’s BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound 
connections at the firewall and you’ve blocked BIS.
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it’s turned off?
 
Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party EAS 
bridge like AstraSync.
 
From:bes-admins-boun

Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-20 Thread steveaschett...@yahoo.com
There is no IT Policy to simply disable BIS?





From: Darhl Thomason dar...@papamurphys.com
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. 
bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email


I saw that.  I had already sent this one before his reply hit my inbox.
 
That’s what I’m configuring now.
 
Thanks everyone for the thoughts, ideas, and solutions.
 
d
 
Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Evenden
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:08 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email
 
BES is outbound – just don’t block outbound and  you’re fine. You’re blocking 
inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.
 
-- 
Jonathan Evenden
Director of IT Consulting
MCP - Microsoft Certified Professional
TNTMAX, LLC.
Technology Solutions by Design
0101010001001110010101000110110101110000
(201) 891-8686 Main
(201) 891-4672 Fax
 
jeven...@tntmax.com
253 Madison Ave, Wyckoff, NJ 07481
http://www.tntmax.com
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to 
return the documents or destroy them. Use, disclosure, distribution or copying 
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From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email
 
HDawg,
 
Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:
BIS IP Range 
206.51.26.0/24 
193.109.81.0/24 
204.187.87.0/24 
206.53.144.0/20 
216.9.240.0/20 
67.233.64.0/19 
93.186.16.0/20 
68.171.224.0/19 
 
Another post on your site 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
 shows the same IP range for BES:
BES IP Range 
206.51.26.0 /24 
193.109.81.0/24 
204.187.87.0/24 
216.9.240.0/20 
206.53.144.0/20 
67.223.64.0/19 
93.186.16.0/20 
68.171.224.0/19 
 
Which means that I can’t block those IP’s or BES stops working as well.  
 
Back to the drawing board…
 
Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
HDawg,
 
This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that shows 
the BES IP’s?  I’d want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
provided 
for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn’t be surprised if they overlap to some 
degree.
 
Thanks!
 
Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology
Papa Murphy’sInt'l. | d360-449-4044 | c360-607-5617 | www.papamurphys.com
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
BIS can also use OWA. See: 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
 for a list of what IP’s BIS connections are coming from.  Block these inbound 
connections at the firewall and you’ve blocked BIS.
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Barker
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email
 
BIS uses IMAP and POP3.  Are you sure it’s turned off?
 
Other options include offline sync using Desktop manager or a 3rd-party EAS 
bridge like AstraSync.
 
From:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:55 AM
To: 'bes-admins@dataoutages.com'
Subject: [Bes-admins

Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company email

2010-07-20 Thread hdawg
There is a great way to find out: 
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/deliverables/16679/BlackBerry_Enterprise_Server-Policy_Reference_Guide-T323212-1063796-0616124539-001-5.0.2-US.pdf

 

or, yes, there is a way to do this via IT Policy.

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of 
steveaschett...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

 

There is no IT Policy to simply disable BIS?

 

  _  

From: Darhl Thomason dar...@papamurphys.com
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. 
bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

I saw that.  I had already sent this one before his reply hit my inbox.

 

That’s what I’m configuring now.

 

Thanks everyone for the thoughts, ideas, and solutions.

 

d

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy’s Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |  
http://www.papamurphys.com/ www.papamurphys.com

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Evenden
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:08 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

 

BES is outbound – just don’t block outbound and  you’re fine. You’re blocking 
inbound for OWA/BIS, which is what he said in an earlier post.

 

-- 
Jonathan Evenden
Director of IT Consulting
MCP - Microsoft Certified Professional
TNTMAX, LLC.
Technology Solutions by Design
0101010001001110010101000110110101110000
(201) 891-8686 Main
(201) 891-4672 Fax

 

jeven...@tntmax.com
253 Madison Ave, Wyckoff, NJ 07481

http://www.tntmax.com http://www.tntmax.com/ 
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From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberriesfrom accessing company 
email

 

HDawg,

 

Your post shows these addresses as the BIS servers:


BIS IP Range


206.51.26.0/24


193.109.81.0/24


204.187.87.0/24


206.53.144.0/20


216.9.240.0/20


67.233.64.0/19


93.186.16.0/20


68.171.224.0/19

 

Another post on your site 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/793-kb03735-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-enterprise-server.html
 shows the same IP range for BES:


BES IP Range


206.51.26.0 /24


193.109.81.0/24


204.187.87.0/24


216.9.240.0/20


206.53.144.0/20


67.223.64.0/19


93.186.16.0/20


68.171.224.0/19

 

Which means that I can’t block those IP’s or BES stops working as well.  

 

Back to the drawing board…

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy’s Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |  
http://www.papamurphys.com/ www.papamurphys.com

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Darhl Thomason
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:28 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

 

HDawg,

 

This looks to be the most promising solution.  Is there another list that shows 
the BES IP’s?  I’d want to make sure that they were allowed, the ranges 
provided for BIS are pretty large and I wouldn’t be surprised if they overlap 
to some degree.

 

Thanks!

 

Darhl Thomason | SysAdmin | Business Technology

Papa Murphy’s Int'l. | d 360-449-4044 | c 360-607-5617 |  
http://www.papamurphys.com/ www.papamurphys.com

 

From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of hdawg
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:13 AM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] Prevent personal Blackberries from accessing company 
email

 

BIS can also use OWA. See: 
http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/792-kb11036-firewall-connection-requirements-blackberry-internet-service.html
 for a list of what IP’s BIS connections are coming from.  Block