Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 13:57 -0400, Novosielski, Ryan wrote:

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RE: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Ward, Mike S
I want to thank everyone for their input. It sounds like they do need the 
reverse address entries in specific circumstances so I'm going to recommend 
that they add them.

Thank you.

From: Leonard Mills [mailto:l...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:52 PM
To: Ward, Mike S; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Reverse address entries

At about Friday, June 28, 2013 10:54 AM Ward, Mike S" 
mailto:mw...@ssfcu.org>> wrote:

>Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries
>for a zone?

It very much depends on the reasons for the forward entries.

For example:

Commercial backup software for Microsoft servers require
forward-reverse-forward matching.  They won't move bytes
unless a lookup returns an IP, the reverse lookupo returns a
name and a forward lookup for that name matches.

Commercial and open source email handlers are often
configured (some as a default) to refuse or quarantine messages
from inbound sessions using non-matching host==>IP==>host
entries.

If it's for a local experimental lab, it might be a waste of your
time to even create the reverse zones.

Hth,
Len

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Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Leonard Mills
At about Friday, June 28, 2013 10:54 AM Ward, Mike S"  wrote:

>Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries
>for a zone?

It very much depends on the reasons for the forward entries.  

For example:

Commercial backup software for Microsoft servers require 
forward-reverse-forward matching.  They won't move bytes 
unless a lookup returns an IP, the reverse lookupo returns a 
name and a forward lookup for that name matches.

Commercial and open source email handlers are often
configured (some as a default) to refuse or quarantine messages
from inbound sessions using non-matching host==>IP==>host 
entries.

If it's for a local experimental lab, it might be a waste of your 
time to even create the reverse zones.

Hth,
Len
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Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:57:44 -0400
"Novosielski, Ryan"  wrote:

> The short answer is "some software once cared." Does it still now, I'm
> not sure. But we do it.

Some still does

Niall O'Reilly
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Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Mark Elkins
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 17:54 +, Ward, Mike S wrote:
> Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries for a
> zone? I have asked some of the admins here and the consensus from them
> is that only A records are necessary. Is this true?

(IPv4 hat on)
I've taught my staff to plan using the reverse zone file. One can easily
see which addresses have been used and which are free (sort the zone
numerically!). Far more useful than putting names and addresses into a
spreadsheet... which I suspect.. never mind...

Having a correctly configured (ie complete) reverse is very useful. Mail
and other services use the information. If you just have an IP address,
a 'dig -x IP' will give a human understandable name. Can't think of any
sane reason not to properly configure the reverse zone..
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Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Charles Swiger
On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:54 AM, "Ward, Mike S"  wrote:
> Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries for a zone?

Certainly.  Various software performs what's called a double-reverse lookup
to confirm that the A and PTR records match.

> I have asked some of the admins here and the consensus from them is that only 
> A records are necessary. Is this true?

I suppose that depends on how wide (or limited) one's view of "necessary" is.

Many mail systems choose not to grant much trust towards IPs without good DNS.
Java's SSL on some platform performs a double-reverse check and declines to 
proceed if there is a mismatch.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Novosielski, Ryan
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The short answer is "some software once cared." Does it still now, I'm
not sure. But we do it.

On 06/28/2013 01:56 PM, Ward, Mike S wrote:
> Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries for
> a zone? I have asked some of the admins here and the consensus from
> them is that only A records are necessary. Is this true?
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Reverse address entries

2013-06-28 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, is there any reason to setup reverse address entries for a zone? I 
have asked some of the admins here and the consensus from them is that only A 
records are necessary. Is this true?

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Re: sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout

2013-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke

> >I have a recent build of BIND 9.9.3-P1 and after bringing up the service
> >on a 
> >Solaris 10 server I begin to see many log entries like so :
> >
> >28-Jun-2013 15:41:17.636 sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout
> >
> >I don't know what this is and am mildly concerned.  Is this evidence 
> of a
> >config
> >problem or a compile problem or ?  Really I have not seen this before 
> and
> >there
> >are roughly 5000 such entries in my log thus far today.
> >
> >Dennis
> 
> just as a data point i setup a couple new 9.9.3-P1 boxes last night that
> get around 30,000 qps combined and with rolling logs the last million
> lines or so don't show any trace of "POLL" on centos 6.4 with bind
> compiled from latest isc.org src.  the only "option" i have is enable-ssl.
> 
> not much help i know, but it does seem solaris/compile specific.  maybe
> something like this can help:
> 
> http://comp.protocols.dns.bind.narkive.com/fijjEh47/workaround-solaris-s-ke
> rnel-bug
> 

I was looking at that and thinking that my problems on Solaris 10 should not
be related to a kernel bug from dark history on Solaris 8.  This problem may
be related to this : 

STD_CDEFINES=-D_TS_ERRNO -D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 
-DDIG_SIGCHASE=1 -DISC_SOCKET_USE_POLLWATCH=1

I think, and this is a guess, the issue is in "ISC_SOCKET_USE_POLLWATCH".

I will do a rebuild without that defined and see what happens.  Nothing beats 
trial and
error :-\

Dennis 






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Re: sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout

2013-06-28 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
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From: Dennis Clarke 
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:43 AM
To: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" 
Subject: sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout

>
>I have a recent build of BIND 9.9.3-P1 and after bringing up the service
>on a 
>Solaris 10 server I begin to see many log entries like so :
>
>28-Jun-2013 15:41:17.636 sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout
>
>I don't know what this is and am mildly concerned.  Is this evidence of a
>config
>problem or a compile problem or ?  Really I have not seen this before and
>there
>are roughly 5000 such entries in my log thus far today.
>
>Dennis

just as a data point i setup a couple new 9.9.3-P1 boxes last night that
get around 30,000 qps combined and with rolling logs the last million
lines or so don't show any trace of "POLL" on centos 6.4 with bind
compiled from latest isc.org src.  the only "option" i have is enable-ssl.

not much help i know, but it does seem solaris/compile specific.  maybe
something like this can help:

http://comp.protocols.dns.bind.narkive.com/fijjEh47/workaround-solaris-s-ke
rnel-bug

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sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout

2013-06-28 Thread Dennis Clarke

I have a recent build of BIND 9.9.3-P1 and after bringing up the service on a 
Solaris 10 server I begin to see many log entries like so : 

28-Jun-2013 15:41:17.636 sockmgr 1005a1080: unexpected POLL timeout

I don't know what this is and am mildly concerned.  Is this evidence of a config
problem or a compile problem or ?  Really I have not seen this before and there
are roughly 5000 such entries in my log thus far today.

Dennis


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