[blfs-dev] LSB-Tools: symlink creation no longer needed

2020-02-15 Thread Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev

Hi folks,


I know that we're in a semi-package freeze right now, so I wanted to ask 
a question about a package that's already been tagged.


root [ /sources/LSB-Tools-0.6 ]# ln -sv /usr/lib/lsb/install_initd /usr/sbin
ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/sbin/install_initd': File exists

This is after running "python3 setup.py install --optimize=1"


I don't think that the ln commands to create the symlink are needed anymore:

ln -sv /usr/lib/lsb/install_initd /usr/sbin &&
ln -sv /usr/lib/lsb/remove_initd  /usr/sbin


Are there any objections to me removing them?

- Doug

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Re: [blfs-dev] proposal: move polkit-gnome to XFCE

2020-02-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 2/15/20 10:03 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:

On 2020-02-15 21:51 -0600, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev:

On 2/15/20 9:00 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:

Though it's named "polkit-gnome", but now it's only used by XFCE and GNOME
doesn't use it at all.  gnome-shell has built-in polkit agent.


It's not used by network-manager-applet?


n-m-a just uses "a polkit agent" at runtime.  Other agents (gnome-shell or
lxpolkit) works as well.


And, notification-daemon is not used by GNOME.  Maybe we should also move it
somewhere.


We only reference it in libnotify and lxde-common.  There is an
alternative (xfce4-notifyd) for it in both packages.  Should we remove
notification-daemon completely?  The differences though are the
dependencies.  notification-daemon seems simpler.


I'm not a XFCE user.  We'd like to hear some opinion from XFCE users about which
notify daemon they prefer.


I do not have a problem moving n-d to Chapter 12, System Utilities.


I do use xfce by default.  For me it is easier to just build 
xfce4-notifyd as I work through the xfce chapters.


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Re: [blfs-dev] proposal: move polkit-gnome to XFCE

2020-02-15 Thread Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev


On 2/15/20 9:51 PM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:

On 2/15/20 9:00 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:
Though it's named "polkit-gnome", but now it's only used by XFCE and 
GNOME

doesn't use it at all.  gnome-shell has built-in polkit agent.


It's not used by network-manager-applet?

As far as I know, it is used by nm-applet. At one time, I remember 
gparted being able to use polkit-gnome as well. I think moving it to a 
more generic place (maybe Chapter 12, System Utilities) would be a 
smarter option, probably after the release.
And, notification-daemon is not used by GNOME.  Maybe we should also 
move it

somewhere.


We only reference it in libnotify and lxde-common.  There is an 
alternative (xfce4-notifyd) for it in both packages.  Should we remove 
notification-daemon completely?  The differences though are the 
dependencies.  notification-daemon seems simpler.


I do not have a problem moving n-d to Chapter 12, System Utilities.

I don't have a problem with this either, but I will note that the 
dependencies for xfce4-notifyd are a lot more complex (it looks like it 
needs xfce4-panel and libxfce4ui, which with xfce4-panel is a large 
chunk of XFCE that you'd have to build in order to use it. I think 
moving notification-daemon to Chapter 12 would be start, but I'd vote 
for a change like that after release.

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Re: [blfs-dev] proposal: move polkit-gnome to XFCE

2020-02-15 Thread Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
On 2020-02-15 21:51 -0600, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev:
> On 2/15/20 9:00 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:
> > Though it's named "polkit-gnome", but now it's only used by XFCE and GNOME
> > doesn't use it at all.  gnome-shell has built-in polkit agent.
> 
> It's not used by network-manager-applet?

n-m-a just uses "a polkit agent" at runtime.  Other agents (gnome-shell or
lxpolkit) works as well.

> > And, notification-daemon is not used by GNOME.  Maybe we should also move it
> > somewhere.
> 
> We only reference it in libnotify and lxde-common.  There is an 
> alternative (xfce4-notifyd) for it in both packages.  Should we remove 
> notification-daemon completely?  The differences though are the 
> dependencies.  notification-daemon seems simpler.

I'm not a XFCE user.  We'd like to hear some opinion from XFCE users about which
notify daemon they prefer.

> I do not have a problem moving n-d to Chapter 12, System Utilities.
> 
>-- Bruce
> 
> 
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Re: [blfs-dev] proposal: move polkit-gnome to XFCE

2020-02-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev

On 2/15/20 9:00 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:

Though it's named "polkit-gnome", but now it's only used by XFCE and GNOME
doesn't use it at all.  gnome-shell has built-in polkit agent.


It's not used by network-manager-applet?


And, notification-daemon is not used by GNOME.  Maybe we should also move it
somewhere.


We only reference it in libnotify and lxde-common.  There is an 
alternative (xfce4-notifyd) for it in both packages.  Should we remove 
notification-daemon completely?  The differences though are the 
dependencies.  notification-daemon seems simpler.


I do not have a problem moving n-d to Chapter 12, System Utilities.

  -- Bruce


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[blfs-dev] proposal: move polkit-gnome to XFCE

2020-02-15 Thread Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
Though it's named "polkit-gnome", but now it's only used by XFCE and GNOME
doesn't use it at all.  gnome-shell has built-in polkit agent.

And, notification-daemon is not used by GNOME.  Maybe we should also move it
somewhere.
-- 
Xi Ruoyao 
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

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Re: [blfs-dev] proposal: archive gnome-themes-extra

2020-02-15 Thread Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev
On 2020-02-15 01:32 -0600, Douglas R. Reno via blfs-dev wrote:
> On 2/14/20 10:03 PM, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:
> > The themes in gnome-themes-extra have been integrated into GTK+-3 long long
> > ago.
> > And, the only packages "depends on" it are gnome-shell and GTK+-3.  I've
> > tested
> > them w/o gnome-themes-extra.  I think we can remove it from the book.
> > 
> > Or, remove those two false dependencies and let GTK+-2 optionally depends on
> > gnome-themes-extra (to provide themes for GTK+-2 applications so we can make
> > them "look like" GTK+-3 applications).
> I think option two is better in this case (remove dependencies and make 
> GTK+-2 depend on runtime)

Done in r22694.
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School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

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