Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-07 Thread Pierre Labastie

TI want to apologize to Tim who first reported the issue.
During the "race to release", I have not always monitored
all the messages on the list, specially concerning
packages I was not supposed to check, so I was not aware
that the issue had been reported. Sorry about that.

|Pierre |

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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-07 Thread Pierre Labastie

On 07/10/2015 10:11, Pierre Labastie wrote:

TI want to apologize to Tim who first reported the issue.

Really don't know where this first "T" came from...

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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:09:17PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:07:58PM +0200, Tim Tassonis wrote:
> > On 10/05/15 22:27, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > >Pierre Labastie wrote:
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
> > >>---
> > >>configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
> > >>---
> > >>Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
> > >>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201
> > >>
> > >>There are two possibilities:
> > >>a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
> > >>b) Make gconf a recommended dependency
> > >
> > >The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database
> > >system used by many GNOME applications.
> > >
> > >Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into the
> > >optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.
> > >
> > >Has FF been tested without gconf?
> > 
> > Yes, I'm running it withouth gconf for a week now, without any problems.
> > Same for thunderbird.
> > 
> Mea culpa.  I *thought* I had put that into the mozconfig.  I
> suppose I checked that system cairo was commented (a last-minute
> decision), and overlooked this earlier change.
> 
Fixed in svn.  The 7.8 book is, of course, broken by this - is there
somewhere to put an errata ?

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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-06 Thread Pierre Labastie

On 05/10/2015 22:27, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

Pierre Labastie wrote:

Hi,

When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
---
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
---
Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201

There are two possibilities:
a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
b) Make gconf a recommended dependency


The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database 
system used by many GNOME applications.


Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into 
the optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.


Has FF been tested without gconf?

  -- Bruce

It builds and starts OK without gconf. Maybe using gconf would avoids 
this kind of messages, which appear when starting FF from a terminal:

-
GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings 
will not be saved or shared with other applications.

-
Maybe "our definition" of gconf is not exact... OTOH, I prefer option a) 
too.


The behavior respective to gconf changed for versions 41 and up. So it 
is normal that this problem is not addresssed for TB, which is at 38.2.


Pierre


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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-06 Thread Tim Tassonis

On 10/06/15 09:43, Pierre Labastie wrote:

On 05/10/2015 22:27, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

Pierre Labastie wrote:

Hi,





The behavior respective to gconf changed for versions 41 and up. So it
is normal that this problem is not addresssed for TB, which is at 38.2.

Pierre



Strange, I was quite sure it also applied to thunderbird 38.2, but 
testing again, it seems to start compile fine without "ac_add_options 
--disable-gconf". Sorry for the false alarm, then.


Kind regards
Tim

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[blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi,

When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
---
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
---
Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201

There are two possibilities:
a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
b) Make gconf a recommended dependency

Thoughts?

Pierre
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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs

Pierre Labastie wrote:

Hi,

When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
---
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
---
Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201

There are two possibilities:
a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
b) Make gconf a recommended dependency


The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database 
system used by many GNOME applications.


Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into the 
optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.


Has FF been tested without gconf?

  -- Bruce

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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Tim Tassonis

On 10/05/15 21:49, Pierre Labastie wrote:

Hi,

When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
---
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
---
Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201

There are two possibilities:
a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
b) Make gconf a recommended dependency

Thoughts?



Same goes for thunderbird, btw. Has been mentioned by several people 
before, but strangely still didn't make it into the book.


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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Tim Tassonis

On 10/05/15 22:27, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

Pierre Labastie wrote:

Hi,

When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
---
configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
---
Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201

There are two possibilities:
a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
b) Make gconf a recommended dependency


The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database
system used by many GNOME applications.

Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into the
optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.

Has FF been tested without gconf?


Yes, I'm running it withouth gconf for a week now, without any problems. 
Same for thunderbird.






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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 05-10-2015 17:27, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
> Pierre Labastie wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
>> ---
>> configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
>> ---
>> Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201
>>
>> There are two possibilities:
>> a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
>> b) Make gconf a recommended dependency
> 
> The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database
> system used by many GNOME applications.
> 
> Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into the
> optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.
> 
> Has FF been tested without gconf?

I don't think it is going to help us in any way. I have gconf, always,
because update gnome.

I vote for option a).

As you often say, Bruce, we are in -dev. Cam't believe that firefox
would become or remain definitely dependent as required on gconf2.

BTW, wherever does the modification, it ould be done in the three: FF,
TB, SM

And please, remove from mosconfig libnotify.

What to do with libnotify in the dependencies, remains to be decided,
for the three, All indicatess until now it is broken, but if not, woulf
be optional, runtime.

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Re: [blfs-dev] Firefox needs gconf

2015-10-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:07:58PM +0200, Tim Tassonis wrote:
> On 10/05/15 22:27, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> >Pierre Labastie wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>When upgrading to Firefox 41.0, the build failed with:
> >>---
> >>configure: error: * * * Could not find gconf-2.0
> >>---
> >>Actually, the behavior has changed for FF 41, see:
> >>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1167201
> >>
> >>There are two possibilities:
> >>a) Add --disable-gconf to mozconfig
> >>b) Make gconf a recommended dependency
> >
> >The definition we use for gconf is : contains a configuration database
> >system used by many GNOME applications.
> >
> >Does FF need that?  I suspect not.  My reaction is to put gconf into the
> >optional dependencies and use --disable-gconf in the mozconfig file.
> >
> >Has FF been tested without gconf?
> 
> Yes, I'm running it withouth gconf for a week now, without any problems.
> Same for thunderbird.
> 
Mea culpa.  I *thought* I had put that into the mozconfig.  I
suppose I checked that system cairo was commented (a last-minute
decision), and overlooked this earlier change.

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