Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-09 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Shawn wrote:

 On March 8, 2007, Jorge Almeida wrote:
 I suppose I must try that next monday. I will also try us
 XkbLayout. Until then I'm connected via ssh to the gentoo part and
 then chroot to the LFS part...
 BTW, I have a small(?) problem that may or may not be related. On
 booting, the console cursor (i.e. the blinking underscore) appears
 misplaced. I can login but the cursor is a few lines above. If I
 change to another VT and then come back, the cursor becomes normal.
 Is this a symptom of some known problem?


 Jorge:
 I too came from gentoo. Like others, i used the /etc from gentoo as
 examples to config my lfs/blfs system. Though this is not a bad idea as
 far as giving you/me ideas as to how to config the system, a wholesale
 copy from one system to the next will not work. The people at gentoo
 have spent a lot of time customizing their distribution. They also
Yes, that is true in general, but does it apply to the configuration of
X? I didn't copy the contents of /etc, which is probably what differs
most between distributions. But I think the contents of xorg.conf are
just a xorg thing, unrelated to, say, baselayout.
 customize the kernel. The most noticeable difference is in sysvinit.
Well, I'm in the worst case scenario, because I don't use sysvinit!:)
I'm trying runit as substitute to init. Till now, the system boots and
the stage 2 services are running (currently only 5 gettys and gpm). No
networking yet, because I don't know for sure how to approach the
problem (it seems that it would spread over stage 1 and stage 2...)



 No ofence intended 
None taken, I assure you.
if this is obvious to you. It is just a friendly
 reminder. :)

 Shawn



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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-09 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Alberto Hernando wrote:


El Thursday 08 March 2007 11:46:34 Jorge Almeida escribió:

I'm trying xorg in BLFS stable. I can startx and it works (the default
wm appears, with the xterm and the clock). The problem is that I can't
switch virtual consoles when I'm in X. Before startx and after killing
X, I can switch VCs. While in X, with the xterm selected, pressing
Ctrl-Alt-F1 prints 'P' in the xterm window, Ctrl-Alt-F2 prints 'Q', etc.

I installed xorg in /opt/xorg. I tried the nvidia and the nv drivers.
Both work and the problem is the same.


Hi.

I asked this some time ago. Search for messages on 17-12-06 (12-17-06 for the
rest of you ;)
In case you are using x.org-7.1, It was said it was a known bug. If not...
then I don't know. But x.org-7.2 is out there. I'm waiting for it to be
included in blfs and I'll try it.


Well, the thread is enlightening. I installed x.org-7.1, as I follow the
stable version. I just noticed that the development version doesn't have
xorg-7.2 yet. This is not the kind of thing I would try by myself.
Didn't you try the suggestion of Dan Nicholson about xkeyboard-config?
If I understood it, I could install xkeyboard-config without
uninstalling any other package.



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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/8/07, Alberto Hernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I asked this some time ago. Search for messages on 17-12-06 (12-17-06 for the
 rest of you ;)
 In case you are using x.org-7.1, It was said it was a known bug. If not...
 then I don't know. But x.org-7.2 is out there. I'm waiting for it to be
 included in blfs and I'll try it.

It still stands that you could try installing xkeyboard-config over
the top of xkbdata. You might want to try installing into a DESTDIR
once or twice to make sure the installed files go to the right
location.

As for 7.2, I'd like to get there, but am a bit busy trying to figure
out why binutil's testsuite is failing on this damn Fedora box. But I
will get there soon. You can look at the blfs-dev archives from a few
weeks ago with a thread on Xorg-7.2. DJ Lucas and Joe Ciccone talk
about the changes they needed to make to get 7.2 up. Both those guys
know what they're doing and you could follow their advice pretty
safely.

Once I get through my LFS issues, the things I'll be working on are:
dbus, hal, fontconfig, freetype and xorg. Hopefully that happens soon.

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-08 Thread Lauri Kasanen
 - Original Message -
 From: Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X
 
 I'm trying xorg in BLFS stable. I can startx and it works (the default
 wm appears, with the xterm and the clock). The problem is that I can't
 switch virtual consoles when I'm in X. Before startx and after killing
 X, I can switch VCs. While in X, with the xterm selected, pressing
 Ctrl-Alt-F1 prints 'P' in the xterm window, Ctrl-Alt-F2 prints 'Q', etc.
 
 I installed xorg in /opt/xorg. I tried the nvidia and the nv drivers.
 Both work and the problem is the same.
 
 TIA.

I think you have
Option DontVTSwitch
in your xorg.conf. 

It disallows the use of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence (where Fn refers to one of 
the numbered function keys). That sequence is normally used to switch to 
another 'virtual terminal' on operating systems that have this feature. When 
this option is enabled, that key sequence has no special meaning and is passed 
to clients. Default: off

Lauri

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-08 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Lauri Kasanen wrote:


 I think you have
 Option DontVTSwitch
 in your xorg.conf.

Nope. It's commented. Anyway, the xorg.conf file is just a copy of the
xorg.conf I have (in working conditions) in the Gentoo part of the box.

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/8/07, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Lauri Kasanen wrote:

 
  I think you have
  Option DontVTSwitch
  in your xorg.conf.
 
 Nope. It's commented. Anyway, the xorg.conf file is just a copy of the
 xorg.conf I have (in working conditions) in the Gentoo part of the box.

Could you attach xorg.conf? Maybe Xorg.log, too, if you see anything unusual.

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-08 Thread Shawn
On March 8, 2007, Jorge Almeida wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Dan Nicholson wrote:
  On 3/8/07, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Keyboard1
  Driver  kbd
  Option AutoRepeat 500 30
  Option XkbRules   xorg
  Option XkbModel   pc104
  Option XkbLayout  us_intl
  EndSection
 
  One thing to think about here is that if you're following BLFS, we
  haven't moved over to the new xkeyboard-config package. We're using
  the (now deprecated) xkbdata. I don't know what gentoo's using.
  Your log file didn't show any complaints about the above options,
  but it would probably help to strip down the options to make sure
  they aren't causing any problems. Particularly, us_intl might cause
  issues.

 Well, I didn't use anything special to get a working xorg.conf file
 (hence the wrong font paths you may have noticed). I didn't even
 realize there's a special package for that, in BLFS or gentoo. Since
 configuring X is a pain (for me), I just try to keep a file that
 works with my hardware. As for us_intl, I don't remember why I have
 it instead of us, but probably it has to do with dead keys, which I
 need. Anyway, I checked that us_intl exists in
 /opt/xorg/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us_intl (/opt/xorg being
 $XORG_PREFIX). In gentoo, symbols are in
 /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, so I made /usr/share/X11 a symlink to
 /opt/xorg/share/X11, just in case.

  I would start by doing Xorg -configure and substituting the xkb
  options it give you into your xorg.conf. If things are still
  broken, then we know the XKB isn't the culprit. Actually, it would
  probably help to start with Xorg -configure defaults and re-enable
  your options.

 I suppose I must try that next monday. I will also try us
 XkbLayout. Until then I'm connected via ssh to the gentoo part and
 then chroot to the LFS part...
 BTW, I have a small(?) problem that may or may not be related. On
 booting, the console cursor (i.e. the blinking underscore) appears
 misplaced. I can login but the cursor is a few lines above. If I
 change to another VT and then come back, the cursor becomes normal.
 Is this a symptom of some known problem?

  --
  Dan

 Thanks.

 Jorge

Jorge:
I too came from gentoo. Like others, i used the /etc from gentoo as 
examples to config my lfs/blfs system. Though this is not a bad idea as 
far as giving you/me ideas as to how to config the system, a wholesale 
copy from one system to the next will not work. The people at gentoo 
have spent a lot of time customizing their distribution. They also 
customize the kernel. The most noticeable difference is in sysvinit.

I say this to remind you and possibly others that all distributions are 
different and that they must be treated as such.

No ofence intended if this is obvious to you. It is just a friendly 
reminder. :)

Shawn

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Re: Ctrl-Alt-F? in X

2007-03-08 Thread Alberto Hernando
El Thursday 08 March 2007 11:46:34 Jorge Almeida escribió:
 I'm trying xorg in BLFS stable. I can startx and it works (the default
 wm appears, with the xterm and the clock). The problem is that I can't
 switch virtual consoles when I'm in X. Before startx and after killing
 X, I can switch VCs. While in X, with the xterm selected, pressing
 Ctrl-Alt-F1 prints 'P' in the xterm window, Ctrl-Alt-F2 prints 'Q', etc.

 I installed xorg in /opt/xorg. I tried the nvidia and the nv drivers.
 Both work and the problem is the same.

Hi.

I asked this some time ago. Search for messages on 17-12-06 (12-17-06 for the 
rest of you ;)
In case you are using x.org-7.1, It was said it was a known bug. If not... 
then I don't know. But x.org-7.2 is out there. I'm waiting for it to be 
included in blfs and I'll try it.

Alberto
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