RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

2010-04-11 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins
And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters



  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of
them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to
heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.



  


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

2010-04-11 Thread Dale Leavens
I don't know much about them, the little bit of research I have done has been 
on geothermal heat pumps. The heat recoverable is relatively low, about 110F so 
these are really pre-heaters. You can certainly save some money but the cost is 
very high and unless you are using the heat pump equipment for other things 
like heating or cooling the home so that the capital cost is expressed over 
more intensive and varied applications it doesn't seem to me to be very 
effective. The emersion heater is needed to raise the water temperature another 
20 degrees all of the time and much more than that during heavy water use.

As a pre-heater though warming the water entering the tank with heat generated 
from the air conditioning for example serves water heat savings as well as 
improving the efficiency of the air conditioning.

The cost of a single purpose heat pump system must be relatively high, just 
think of a small room air conditioner. It is very similar technology.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters



  And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of
  them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to
  heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.

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[BlindHandyMan] room addition

2010-04-11 Thread Ron Yearns
Hello all,

Well the roof is on, the walls sheathed , the window in.  Only lacking a 
door and lawn grading and dirt removal and trash removal.  The door from the 
garage of the walkout basement was cut and installed Friday.  Things are 
looking up.  May set some electrical boxes later today or Monday.
Ron 




Re: [BlindHandyMan] o.t Blind runners needed

2010-04-11 Thread David Ferrin
Sorry but this is a bit off the track for the list.
David Ferrin
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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] o.t Blind runners needed


Perhaps someone knows someone who fits this profile.

***38) Summary: Vision Impaired Trail Runners

Name: Will Laughlin (National Magazine)

Category: Sports Email:
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Media Outlet: National Magazine Deadline: 07:00 PM EST - 16 April

Query: I'm seeking vision impaired or blind runners to interview for
anarticle for a mainstream running magazine.


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] o.t Blind runners needed

2010-04-11 Thread Era Trice

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  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] o.t Blind runners needed



  Sorry but this is a bit off the track for the list.
  David Ferrin
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  Perhaps someone knows someone who fits this profile.

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[BlindHandyMan] Braille overlays for Whirlpool

2010-04-11 Thread clifford
Dear List Members:
I agree with Michael's assessment of the Whirlpool Duet front loading 
washer, however, I tried recently to obtain a Braille overlay for our machine, 
which is a Duet Steam, and was told that Whirlpool no longer provides Braille 
overlays for their washers, as there was not 
 a sufficient demand for them.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag Neptune Washer Bearing Problem

2010-04-11 Thread RJ
Clifford,

I have one of these machines and been told by a serviceman and a couple 
retailers that the new machines by who ever is making them don't hold up and I 
would be better off keeping the old machine. The Maytag top loader I had only 
one for 25 years and gave it to a friend, who use it for years. And the 
frontloader Maytag, so far has been a good one for near 7 years. I am going to 
hate to have to replace any appliances, for looking at them at our local 
dealers, they aren't made in the good old U S A, just assembled here. And have 
you noticed the warrantee? Sure aren't the 5 year, but one.
RJ
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From: clifford 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 23:34
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag Neptune Washer Bearing Problem


  
Dear Gil:
You saved yourself quite a sum by doing the work yourself. I received a quote 
of five hundred bucks to repair our Neptune, which was one of the first ones 
out. Since the machine had some years on it, we elected to replace it. I 
understand that the Neptune was the cause of Maytag going under. That is a real 
shame, as Maytag was one of those names that was equivalent to long lasting 
high quality American made products. The company name lives on, but the 
products are not the same.
We bought a Whirlpool with steam, and while it performs fairly well, my first 
wife would prefer to have a new Neptune, as she liked the old one better.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson
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To: Blind Handyman 
Cc: jgatt...@gmail.com 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 5:24 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag Neptune Washer Bearing Problem

Jim,

You mentioned having replaced the control board on your Maytag Neptune washing 
machine and now the bearings are roaring. I have a 2002 model. The control 
board failed at 14-months and after some fussing Maytag relented and replaced 
it for me as a warranty item. The bearings began to roar at 6-years. My wife 
had not been very happy with the machine so thinking that I might have to buy a 
new washer I did some research on the Internet, bought bearings and a seal, 
improvised a bearing puller, and fixed it myself. My wife later admitted that 
she was hoping that I would fail. I had never worked on such a machine before. 
There was much on-the-job learning. It took me about 24-hours of effort, but I 
believe that I could do it again in about 4-hours. The job would have been much 
easier with a proper bearing puller, but I was too cheap to rent it at $80.

I will write more details if you or anyone else wants to know more.

- Gil Laster, Charlotte, NC

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[BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days

2010-04-11 Thread clifford
Dear R. J. and list members:
My mother has a 1932 ringer washer by Maytag, that came originally with a 
gasoline engine and an exhaust that ran about forty feet out in to the lawn.  
It was modified for an electric motor in the fifties.  It still works, although 
she turned it in to a back-up machine, when she bought an automatic washer.  My 
mother, being the frugal person she is, refused for a long time to allow the 
automatic washer to empty all that hot water after only one run of wash.  
My first wife and I have had a Maytag top loader for well over 25 years, 
which was turned over to our rental house when we bought 
 the Neptune.  Maytag was an automatic buy for us back in the good old days, 
and those commercials showing the lonely Maytag repairman, were on the mark.  
I am one of those old fogies that believe that we are happily destroying 
this country, by allowing our industrial capacity to be outsourced to off
-shore locations.  I thought then, and I still think today, that the treaties 
we have signed on trade  are formulas for disaster.
According to the history channel, the first manufacturing operation started 
in the U. S. was a company making shovels.  I wonder how long it will be before 
there will no longer be a shovel made in the U. S. A.  
I am told by a machinist friend that our capacity to make and sell 
industrial tooling is being shifted abroad, and that many machines used in 
industry here are imported.  
Given all of the trends, I am not at all optimistic about our future.  
Whether it be a power saw, invented in this country, or an outboard motor, also 
invented here, the U. S. manufacturers are slipping away.  
My first chain saw was a Homelite , which gave good service  and I would 
have gladly bought another, had they kept up with developments.  
I will quit with this line of thought before the sensors become outraged.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days

2010-04-11 Thread RJ
Clifford,

Once the company my son worked for as a industrial engineer, would manufacture 
the equipment by order of the customer. Now they rebuild and modify what China 
send into this country that doesn't fit the bill.  After a year or two, he left 
that position, and found greener pastures in a inter national company..
- Original Message - 
From: clifford 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:00
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days


  
Dear R. J. and list members:
My mother has a 1932 ringer washer by Maytag, that came originally with a 
gasoline engine and an exhaust that ran about forty feet out in to the lawn. It 
was modified for an electric motor in the fifties. It still works, although she 
turned it in to a back-up machine, when she bought an automatic washer. My 
mother, being the frugal person she is, refused for a long time to allow the 
automatic washer to empty all that hot water after only one run of wash. 
My first wife and I have had a Maytag top loader for well over 25 years, which 
was turned over to our rental house when we bought 
the Neptune. Maytag was an automatic buy for us back in the good old days, and 
those commercials showing the lonely Maytag repairman, were on the mark. 
I am one of those old fogies that believe that we are happily destroying this 
country, by allowing our industrial capacity to be outsourced to off
-shore locations. I thought then, and I still think today, that the treaties we 
have signed on trade are formulas for disaster.
According to the history channel, the first manufacturing operation started in 
the U. S. was a company making shovels. I wonder how long it will be before 
there will no longer be a shovel made in the U. S. A. 
I am told by a machinist friend that our capacity to make and sell industrial 
tooling is being shifted abroad, and that many machines used in industry here 
are imported. 
Given all of the trends, I am not at all optimistic about our future. Whether 
it be a power saw, invented in this country, or an outboard motor, also 
invented here, the U. S. manufacturers are slipping away. 
My first chain saw was a Homelite , which gave good service and I would have 
gladly bought another, had they kept up with developments. 
I will quit with this line of thought before the sensors become outraged.

Yours Truly,

Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

2010-04-11 Thread Shane Hecker
This is not a separate heat pump add-on that you install on the water heater. 
The heat pump is actually integrated with the unit. Cost is around $1500.

Shane

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters



  I don't know much about them, the little bit of research I have done has been 
on geothermal heat pumps. The heat recoverable is relatively low, about 110F so 
these are really pre-heaters. You can certainly save some money but the cost is 
very high and unless you are using the heat pump equipment for other things 
like heating or cooling the home so that the capital cost is expressed over 
more intensive and varied applications it doesn't seem to me to be very 
effective. The emersion heater is needed to raise the water temperature another 
20 degrees all of the time and much more than that during heavy water use.

  As a pre-heater though warming the water entering the tank with heat 
generated from the air conditioning for example serves water heat savings as 
well as improving the efficiency of the air conditioning.

  The cost of a single purpose heat pump system must be relatively high, just 
think of a small room air conditioner. It is very similar technology.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of
  them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to
  heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

2010-04-11 Thread Dale Leavens
I am aware of that, 15 hundred is a pretty expensive tank. My remarks were just 
to say that the technology would be similar.

A standard electric emersion tank here would be under $400 and so far we pay 
under 6 cents per KWH. would have to use a load of hot water to recover 1100 
bucks at 6 cents per KWH. Of course we can expect that price to climb over 
coming years.

As part of a more complete heat pump system and particularly part of a 
geothermal system it would really begin to make sense though the pay-back still 
seems to be in excess of 10 years according to most of the supposed experts.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shane Hecker 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters



  This is not a separate heat pump add-on that you install on the water heater. 
The heat pump is actually integrated with the unit. Cost is around $1500.

  Shane

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  I don't know much about them, the little bit of research I have done has been 
on geothermal heat pumps. The heat recoverable is relatively low, about 110F so 
these are really pre-heaters. You can certainly save some money but the cost is 
very high and unless you are using the heat pump equipment for other things 
like heating or cooling the home so that the capital cost is expressed over 
more intensive and varied applications it doesn't seem to me to be very 
effective. The emersion heater is needed to raise the water temperature another 
20 degrees all of the time and much more than that during heavy water use.

  As a pre-heater though warming the water entering the tank with heat 
generated from the air conditioning for example serves water heat savings as 
well as improving the efficiency of the air conditioning.

  The cost of a single purpose heat pump system must be relatively high, just 
think of a small room air conditioner. It is very similar technology.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of
  them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to
  heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.

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[BlindHandyMan] For Every project, a mistake

2010-04-11 Thread Tom Vos
To complete the subject line,

For every project, a mistake to learn from.

Or so it seems.

This project is a dresser hutch combination that has to be ready for use as
a grand daughter   change table.  She's due on Friday this week.

It needed to be very dark to match the crib.  

I used a two part water base stain, first a dark under coat, then a top coat
of the final stain.

My mistake came when I was putting polyurethane on it.

I spread poly thinned down half and half with mineral spirits.  Works well.

My mistake came when I got down to the end of the can of poly, and noticed
that I had not stirred up all the gunk from the bottom of the can when I
started.

Without thinking, I dumped in some extra mineral spirits and stirred it up.

The next coat had a lot of milky streaks in it.  I couldn't see them, but my
wife had to keep telling me, It's not right!

Once it dawned on me what had happened, I got a new can of poly.

But we had to sand down the pieces that had the streaks.

By then we were starting to wear through the stain.  Fortunately it worked
to spread a new layer of stain, even though it was a water based stain, over
top of whatever stain and poly was still on the pieces.

Now my wife pronounces them to be good.

Since the basement is cool and getting more damp, she let me take over the
dining room and family room for the finishing.  What a wife!

Hope you can learn from my mistake.

Blessings,

Tom



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days

2010-04-11 Thread John Sherrer
A year and a half ago we bought a Bosch washer and dryer.  They are made on the 
cost of North Carolina.
A army buddy of mine had a job for many years servicing machines that made 
intergrated circuits.  He lost his job since all that work went to China.


John
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http://anellos.ws

  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:00 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days



  Dear R. J. and list members:
  My mother has a 1932 ringer washer by Maytag, that came originally with a 
gasoline engine and an exhaust that ran about forty feet out in to the lawn. It 
was modified for an electric motor in the fifties. It still works, although she 
turned it in to a back-up machine, when she bought an automatic washer. My 
mother, being the frugal person she is, refused for a long time to allow the 
automatic washer to empty all that hot water after only one run of wash. 
  My first wife and I have had a Maytag top loader for well over 25 years, 
which was turned over to our rental house when we bought 
  the Neptune. Maytag was an automatic buy for us back in the good old days, 
and those commercials showing the lonely Maytag repairman, were on the mark. 
  I am one of those old fogies that believe that we are happily destroying this 
country, by allowing our industrial capacity to be outsourced to off
  -shore locations. I thought then, and I still think today, that the treaties 
we have signed on trade are formulas for disaster.
  According to the history channel, the first manufacturing operation started 
in the U. S. was a company making shovels. I wonder how long it will be before 
there will no longer be a shovel made in the U. S. A. 
  I am told by a machinist friend that our capacity to make and sell industrial 
tooling is being shifted abroad, and that many machines used in industry here 
are imported. 
  Given all of the trends, I am not at all optimistic about our future. Whether 
it be a power saw, invented in this country, or an outboard motor, also 
invented here, the U. S. manufacturers are slipping away. 
  My first chain saw was a Homelite , which gave good service and I would have 
gladly bought another, had they kept up with developments. 
  I will quit with this line of thought before the sensors become outraged.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

2010-04-11 Thread Shane Hecker
I wish I could get electricity for that. I'm paying about 14 cents per kwh.

Shane

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters



  I am aware of that, 15 hundred is a pretty expensive tank. My remarks were 
just to say that the technology would be similar.

  A standard electric emersion tank here would be under $400 and so far we pay 
under 6 cents per KWH. would have to use a load of hot water to recover 1100 
bucks at 6 cents per KWH. Of course we can expect that price to climb over 
coming years.

  As part of a more complete heat pump system and particularly part of a 
geothermal system it would really begin to make sense though the pay-back still 
seems to be in excess of 10 years according to most of the supposed experts.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shane Hecker 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  This is not a separate heat pump add-on that you install on the water heater. 
The heat pump is actually integrated with the unit. Cost is around $1500.

  Shane

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Leavens 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  I don't know much about them, the little bit of research I have done has been 
on geothermal heat pumps. The heat recoverable is relatively low, about 110F so 
these are really pre-heaters. You can certainly save some money but the cost is 
very high and unless you are using the heat pump equipment for other things 
like heating or cooling the home so that the capital cost is expressed over 
more intensive and varied applications it doesn't seem to me to be very 
effective. The emersion heater is needed to raise the water temperature another 
20 degrees all of the time and much more than that during heavy water use.

  As a pre-heater though warming the water entering the tank with heat 
generated from the air conditioning for example serves water heat savings as 
well as improving the efficiency of the air conditioning.

  The cost of a single purpose heat pump system must be relatively high, just 
think of a small room air conditioner. It is very similar technology.

  If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan  Terrie Robbins 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  And what do they cost relative to a gas or electric unit?

  Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Shane Hecker
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:54 PM
  To: blindhandy...@yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] hybrid water heaters

  Has anyone seen the hybrid water heaters? If so, what do you think of
  them?
  If you have one, how do you like it. For those who don't know, the hybrid
  water heaters use a combination of a heat pump and electric elements to
  heat
  the water. This is supposed to result in significant savings, making it
  cheaper to run than a natural gas unit.

  Shane.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days

2010-04-11 Thread Lenny McHugh
I believe it is time to put this thread to bed.
moderator
- Original Message - 
From: John Sherrer j...@whitecane.org
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days


A year and a half ago we bought a Bosch washer and dryer.  They are made on 
the cost of North Carolina.
A army buddy of mine had a job for many years servicing machines that made 
intergrated circuits.  He lost his job since all that work went to China.


John
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  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:00 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days



  Dear R. J. and list members:
  My mother has a 1932 ringer washer by Maytag, that came originally with a 
gasoline engine and an exhaust that ran about forty feet out in to the lawn. 
It was modified for an electric motor in the fifties. It still works, 
although she turned it in to a back-up machine, when she bought an automatic 
washer. My mother, being the frugal person she is, refused for a long time 
to allow the automatic washer to empty all that hot water after only one run 
of wash.
  My first wife and I have had a Maytag top loader for well over 25 years, 
which was turned over to our rental house when we bought
  the Neptune. Maytag was an automatic buy for us back in the good old days, 
and those commercials showing the lonely Maytag repairman, were on the mark.
  I am one of those old fogies that believe that we are happily destroying 
this country, by allowing our industrial capacity to be outsourced to off
  -shore locations. I thought then, and I still think today, that the 
treaties we have signed on trade are formulas for disaster.
  According to the history channel, the first manufacturing operation 
started in the U. S. was a company making shovels. I wonder how long it will 
be before there will no longer be a shovel made in the U. S. A.
  I am told by a machinist friend that our capacity to make and sell 
industrial tooling is being shifted abroad, and that many machines used in 
industry here are imported.
  Given all of the trends, I am not at all optimistic about our future. 
Whether it be a power saw, invented in this country, or an outboard motor, 
also invented here, the U. S. manufacturers are slipping away.
  My first chain saw was a Homelite , which gave good service and I would 
have gladly bought another, had they kept up with developments.
  I will quit with this line of thought before the sensors become outraged.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days

2010-04-11 Thread Dale Leavens
Clifford and others,

We all have similar thoughts here in Canada but, the bottom line remains that 
we want cheap products. There is nothing new in this!

Your Boston tea party was all about trade and taxes, laws governing trade 
restrictions. You probably remember as do I when about everything we wanted to 
buy came from Japan and that was synonymous with poor quality. German 
electronics and optics before that now Chinese. We all want Wal-Mart prices but 
the only way to get them is with Wal-Mart quality.

of course quality and price aren't necessarily related. I can buy for example 
200 250 mg. tablets of aspirin for about 8 bucks. The same number of 81 mg. are 
12 bucks. The low dose of course is prophylactic and taken by many many 
thousands of persons who can be screwed by the manufacturer. Clearly it is not 
the quantity of active ingredient responsible for either the cost or the value, 
can it be the greed of the manufacturers?


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: clifford 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:00 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Maytag, the good old days



  Dear R. J. and list members:
  My mother has a 1932 ringer washer by Maytag, that came originally with a 
gasoline engine and an exhaust that ran about forty feet out in to the lawn. It 
was modified for an electric motor in the fifties. It still works, although she 
turned it in to a back-up machine, when she bought an automatic washer. My 
mother, being the frugal person she is, refused for a long time to allow the 
automatic washer to empty all that hot water after only one run of wash. 
  My first wife and I have had a Maytag top loader for well over 25 years, 
which was turned over to our rental house when we bought 
  the Neptune. Maytag was an automatic buy for us back in the good old days, 
and those commercials showing the lonely Maytag repairman, were on the mark. 
  I am one of those old fogies that believe that we are happily destroying this 
country, by allowing our industrial capacity to be outsourced to off
  -shore locations. I thought then, and I still think today, that the treaties 
we have signed on trade are formulas for disaster.
  According to the history channel, the first manufacturing operation started 
in the U. S. was a company making shovels. I wonder how long it will be before 
there will no longer be a shovel made in the U. S. A. 
  I am told by a machinist friend that our capacity to make and sell industrial 
tooling is being shifted abroad, and that many machines used in industry here 
are imported. 
  Given all of the trends, I am not at all optimistic about our future. Whether 
it be a power saw, invented in this country, or an outboard motor, also 
invented here, the U. S. manufacturers are slipping away. 
  My first chain saw was a Homelite , which gave good service and I would have 
gladly bought another, had they kept up with developments. 
  I will quit with this line of thought before the sensors become outraged.

  Yours Truly,

  Clifford Wilson

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

2010-04-11 Thread Rick Hume
Years ago when I had a place in a mobile home park, my two trash cans started 
coming up missing.  With some help from some friends and family, we finally 
found that the thief was the wind.  It was often windy in the park, and the 
wind would pitch the cans over on their sides and roll them down the street.  
We finally took care of the problem by running a dog chain through one of the 
handles on each can and then latching them together.  I attached the other end 
of the chain around my mail box pole.  I never had a problem with them after 
that.  I even talked the waste disposal company into reconnecting them after 
they were emptied.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brice Mijares 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector



  Well there will be no way a tree branch would set it off. My mobile home 
  has a covered car port that goes the length of the mobile home it's self. 
  plus I have a tough shed at the end of the car port that's half under the 
  awning. This is where I'd like to set up some kind of security system. 
  This way I'd get full security of the car, the patio and anyone trying to 
  get into my shed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:58 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

   Two things. A friend bought a security system from Home Depot but that 
   was
   about four years ago and I don't know if they carry them any more. It had 
   a
   motion sensing camera and a VCR recorder. When someone went in front of 
   the
   camera it automatically turned on the recorder and ran for about a minute,
   but if there was continuing movement, it would keep running.
  
  
  
   Secondly, no matter what type of motion sensor you use, there is always 
   the
   problem outside of having the wind blowing tree branches or shrubs, etc. 
   and
   setting it off. If this happens often, you start to ignore it. Once you
   start ignoring it because you think it is a tree branch, you might as well
   not even have one.
  
  
  
   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
   Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:35 PM
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector
  
  
  
  
  
   Hello Betsy, I thought of putting one of those alarms that have a pull pin
   but decided against it. Once I'm in bed, I wouldn't want to get up and 
   turn
   it off. With a 300 watt light being turned on by a motion detector or heat
   sensor and lighting that area like it was day time I think it would scare
   the hell out of a thief. It would also be nice to get the person on 
   camera.
   - Original Message - 
   From: Betsy Whitney braill...@hawaii.rr.com
   mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com 
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
   mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  
   Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:48 PM
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector
  
   Aloha Brice,
   How about putting some sort of an alarm on it so
   if the can is moved it will squeal. Now that
   aluminum cans are worth money, I suspect that
   people wander around looking for them.
   Betsy
   At 01:30 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Can you believe this. We move into a senior citizen mobile home park in
  December. I had a regular trash can that I saved our aluminum cans that I
  always smash. Well last week, I went outside to dump some and couldn't
  fine the trash can. Some lousy sum bitch stole the trash can and all. Now 
  I
  need some ideas. I want something like a motion detector that will not 
  only
  light up the area, but also start a cam recorder or the likes. It had to 
  be
  someone from outside the park that did this as I found out others had 
  there
  cans stolen.
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

2010-04-11 Thread Dale Leavens
I have that trouble occasionally too. I built a large framed  trolley with 
three divided wells for garbage cans. I made a small hole in the lids to run 
the end of a rope through and tie off, the other end has a dog clip on it which 
I snap around a top rail of the cart so when they pull the lids they don't 
disappear. I have wheel barrow like handles which flip up to lift one end, the 
other end is on two 10 inch wheels. The bottom is a big 'X' so that snow 
doesn't so easily collect in it although in big falls it still sometimes takes 
quite a bit of power to get it moving. I only usually have two cans in the 
trolley the third well gets filled with cardboard or bagged yard waste which 
doesn't go through the chipper. I just run the cart down to the street on 
garbage day and back when I get home from work at night.


If I was Han Solo I'd probably pet my wookie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Hume 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector



  Years ago when I had a place in a mobile home park, my two trash cans started 
coming up missing. With some help from some friends and family, we finally 
found that the thief was the wind. It was often windy in the park, and the wind 
would pitch the cans over on their sides and roll them down the street. We 
finally took care of the problem by running a dog chain through one of the 
handles on each can and then latching them together. I attached the other end 
of the chain around my mail box pole. I never had a problem with them after 
that. I even talked the waste disposal company into reconnecting them after 
they were emptied.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brice Mijares 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

  Well there will be no way a tree branch would set it off. My mobile home 
  has a covered car port that goes the length of the mobile home it's self. 
  plus I have a tough shed at the end of the car port that's half under the 
  awning. This is where I'd like to set up some kind of security system. 
  This way I'd get full security of the car, the patio and anyone trying to 
  get into my shed.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Hodges tomhod...@fuse.net
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:58 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector

   Two things. A friend bought a security system from Home Depot but that 
   was
   about four years ago and I don't know if they carry them any more. It had 
   a
   motion sensing camera and a VCR recorder. When someone went in front of 
   the
   camera it automatically turned on the recorder and ran for about a minute,
   but if there was continuing movement, it would keep running.
  
  
  
   Secondly, no matter what type of motion sensor you use, there is always 
   the
   problem outside of having the wind blowing tree branches or shrubs, etc. 
   and
   setting it off. If this happens often, you start to ignore it. Once you
   start ignoring it because you think it is a tree branch, you might as well
   not even have one.
  
  
  
   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
   On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
   Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:35 PM
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector
  
  
  
  
  
   Hello Betsy, I thought of putting one of those alarms that have a pull pin
   but decided against it. Once I'm in bed, I wouldn't want to get up and 
   turn
   it off. With a 300 watt light being turned on by a motion detector or heat
   sensor and lighting that area like it was day time I think it would scare
   the hell out of a thief. It would also be nice to get the person on 
   camera.
   - Original Message - 
   From: Betsy Whitney braill...@hawaii.rr.com
   mailto:brailleit%40hawaii.rr.com 
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
   mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  
   Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:48 PM
   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] security light with motion detector
  
   Aloha Brice,
   How about putting some sort of an alarm on it so
   if the can is moved it will squeal. Now that
   aluminum cans are worth money, I suspect that
   people wander around looking for them.
   Betsy
   At 01:30 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
  
  
  Can you believe this. We move into a senior citizen mobile home park in
  December. I had a regular trash can that I saved our aluminum cans that I
  always smash. Well last week, I went outside to dump some and couldn't
  fine the trash can. Some lousy sum bitch stole the trash can and all. Now 
  I
  need some ideas. I want something like a motion detector that will not 
  only
  light up the area, but also start a cam recorder or the likes. It had to 
  be
  

Re: [BlindHandyMan] For Every project, a mistake

2010-04-11 Thread Spiro
recently I tried to get one last use out of a bottle of glue that had 
almost dried. Same thickening at the bottom as yours not stirred.
Didn't work. No go, had to remove the next step and start over. Good for 
learning.





On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, Tom Vos wrote:

 To complete the subject line,

 For every project, a mistake to learn from.

 Or so it seems.

 This project is a dresser hutch combination that has to be ready for use as
 a grand daughter   change table.  She's due on Friday this week.

 It needed to be very dark to match the crib.

 I used a two part water base stain, first a dark under coat, then a top coat
 of the final stain.

 My mistake came when I was putting polyurethane on it.

 I spread poly thinned down half and half with mineral spirits.  Works well.

 My mistake came when I got down to the end of the can of poly, and noticed
 that I had not stirred up all the gunk from the bottom of the can when I
 started.

 Without thinking, I dumped in some extra mineral spirits and stirred it up.

 The next coat had a lot of milky streaks in it.  I couldn't see them, but my
 wife had to keep telling me, It's not right!

 Once it dawned on me what had happened, I got a new can of poly.

 But we had to sand down the pieces that had the streaks.

 By then we were starting to wear through the stain.  Fortunately it worked
 to spread a new layer of stain, even though it was a water based stain, over
 top of whatever stain and poly was still on the pieces.

 Now my wife pronounces them to be good.

 Since the basement is cool and getting more damp, she let me take over the
 dining room and family room for the finishing.  What a wife!

 Hope you can learn from my mistake.

 Blessings,

 Tom



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