[BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Jennifer Jackson
Hey Guys,

Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and 
then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or 
off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not 
remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or 
not.

I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they 
are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and frugality 
efforts.


Jennifer


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Aloha Jennifer,
I bet your son could set these things. I don't 
know much about the accessibility of any of them, 
but I think once they're set, they stay that way.
At 07:47 AM 6/9/2010, you wrote:


Hey Guys,

Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers 
that you put in the outlet and then plug your 
appliance in to so you can use a timer to either 
turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother 
having them when I was a kid, but I do not 
remember enough about the details to know if a 
blind person could set them or not.

I know many items now come with their own clocks 
and timers, but so often they are not accessible 
to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts.

Jennifer

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Brice Mijares
 good question, I doubt any store bought one would be accessible.  Wonder if 
any of the blind specialty stores have one?  I wouldn't mind having one.
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Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers


 Hey Guys,

 Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet 
 and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn 
 it on or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but 
 I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could 
 set them or not.

 I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often 
 they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and 
 frugality efforts.


 Jennifer


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Alan Paganelli
Jennifer, all the such timers I've seen all have a dial you set for 2 hours, 
4 hours, 6 hours etc.  You then set when you want the timer to switch on 
such as in 2 hours, 4 hours, etc.  Then there is another button for when you 
want it to switch off.  Again the same kind of thing.  8 hours, 10 hours 
etc.  Totally not blind friendly unless you can get somebody to modify the 
dial with raised marks.

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From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers


 Hey Guys,

 Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet 
 and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn 
 it on or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but 
 I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could 
 set them or not.

 I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often 
 they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and 
 frugality efforts.


 Jennifer


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RE: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Tony
The last ones I got from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago have 96 slide
pins around the outer edge of the dial, one for each 15 minutes of the day.
You push them toward or away from the center of the dial to turn the
appliance on or off for the desired times.  You can have as many on / off
cycles of any duration as you can manage in 24 hours.  The times are written
on the dial but you can set your own calibration by setting one pin on,
turning the dial until the appliance turns on, then that pin will represent
the current time and you can count from there.  Might be simpler to have
some one mark the dial and case for midnight so you can reset it yourself if
it gets unplugged or you lose power.

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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

Hey Guys,

Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and
then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on
or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do
not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set
them or not.

I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often
they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and
frugality efforts.


Jennifer


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Tom Fowle
Similar ones to those Tony describes should be obtainable from many hardware
stores, they are often called lamp timers
If it says digital forget it, these are old fashioned motors and gears.
and switches, 

Once you have pressed a selector in to set a time, running the dial round
it's travel you can usually feel and hear the thing pass the switch. Many 
also have a little knob that can be used to manually turn the appliance on/off
and this turns when the timer does the job.

Only trouble with these beasties is the gears these days are plastic
and easy to strip so make sure nothing can get caught in the 
dial and hold it up.

the other end of the spectrum is a timer made by Cobolt from britain
that talks and can be set to do similar jobs but is buggy and
way way over priced, strongly disreccommended
I think it was designed to control portable heaters as it also has
a thermostat of sorts.

Before you plan to use an external timer on a device that has it's own clock
which you can't access, make sure what else may be unset or reset when the
thing looses power via your external timer.  some digital devices
save settings regardlesss of power off, some don't.

Hope you can still find the good mechanical devices.

Tom Fowle

On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 01:19:14PM -0500, Tony wrote:
 The last ones I got from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago have 96 slide
 pins around the outer edge of the dial, one for each 15 minutes of the day.
 You push them toward or away from the center of the dial to turn the
 appliance on or off for the desired times.  You can have as many on / off
 cycles of any duration as you can manage in 24 hours.  The times are written
 on the dial but you can set your own calibration by setting one pin on,
 turning the dial until the appliance turns on, then that pin will represent
 the current time and you can count from there.  Might be simpler to have
 some one mark the dial and case for midnight so you can reset it yourself if
 it gets unplugged or you lose power.
 
 Tony
  
 
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 On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:48 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers
 
 Hey Guys,
 
 Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and
 then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on
 or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do
 not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set
 them or not.
 
 I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often
 they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and
 frugality efforts.
 
 
 Jennifer
 
 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread wstep...@everestkc.net
Jeniffer,  there are several types of these, some more accessible than
others.  Tom's right that what Toni's talking about is pretty easy to set
without eyesight.  I have a couple that require you to insert pins in the
dial that trip the switch as they pass.  Mine click 144 times in a 24 hour
revolution, so there's ten minutes per click.  If you have a lot of
patience, you can set one like this, but here's a hint, don't even try it
if you're consuming alcohol.  The pushbutton ones are as far as I can tell
just about completely inaccessible.  Also, be sure the one you buy can
handle the current whatever you're powering uses.  Some of these are meant
for lamps etc., and depending on what you're using it for, that migey might
not work.  Good luck.

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From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:47:37 -0500
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers


Hey Guys,

Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet
and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it
on or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I
do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could
set them or not.

I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often
they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and
frugality efforts.


Jennifer


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Max Robinson
The timers I remember have a mechanical dial that turns once around in 24 
hours.  There little flat pins  that you slide into slots that make the 
switch turn on or off.  Each time a pin passes the switch it changes states. 
If off it is turned on, if on it is turned off.  Now there is a clock face 
printed on the dial but that is for the sighted.  If you want to turn a 
light on at 6 P M and off at 6 A M all you need to do is insert pins on 
opposite sides of the wheel and set it so a pin passes the switch at the two 
sixes.  It won't make any difference if the clock face says 1 A M when it's 
really 9 P M.  If the switch changes at the right time it is right.

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 good question, I doubt any store bought one would be accessible.  Wonder 
 if
 any of the blind specialty stores have one?  I wouldn't mind having one.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers


 Hey Guys,

 Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet
 and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn
 it on or off?  I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, 
 but
 I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person 
 could
 set them or not.

 I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often
 they are not accessible to set.  This is to help with my conservation and
 frugality efforts.


 Jennifer


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers

2010-06-09 Thread Bill Gallik
OK gang, with a little imagination and ingenuity almost any outlet timer will 
be accessible.

Now, it may not be that you can plug in the timer and set the accurate time and 
then set the on/off times.  But really, what does it matter if you have the 
timer set to read 4 in the morning when it's really noon?  The timer will still 
operate on a 24-hour cycle and what you need to do is to set the on/off times 
according to your needs.  Usually these timers have little inserts that you 
depress into the dial to activate the trigger.  If you set the triggers to go 
on and off with some audio device such as a radio or electric razor you'll be 
able to determine when the timer is activating/deactivating in real time by 
checking your other time devices.  These things usually have a tactile 
arrowhead that indicates the trigger point; that is that if one of the inserts 
is depressed and passes that arrow it will take effect.  So, if you want a lamp 
to come on at 7:30 in the evening, place the first insert (depressed) at the 
arrow and plug it in at about 7:15.  Then, depending on whether the increments 
are quarter or half hour, count them to depress the other insert to turn the 
power off.

It isn't really that difficult, just takes some careful planning.

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