[BlindHandyMan] outlet timers
Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Aloha Jennifer, I bet your son could set these things. I don't know much about the accessibility of any of them, but I think once they're set, they stay that way. At 07:47 AM 6/9/2010, you wrote: Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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good question, I doubt any store bought one would be accessible. Wonder if any of the blind specialty stores have one? I wouldn't mind having one. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5185 (20100609) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Jennifer, all the such timers I've seen all have a dial you set for 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours etc. You then set when you want the timer to switch on such as in 2 hours, 4 hours, etc. Then there is another button for when you want it to switch off. Again the same kind of thing. 8 hours, 10 hours etc. Totally not blind friendly unless you can get somebody to modify the dial with raised marks. Alan Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly! The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
RE: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers
The last ones I got from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago have 96 slide pins around the outer edge of the dial, one for each 15 minutes of the day. You push them toward or away from the center of the dial to turn the appliance on or off for the desired times. You can have as many on / off cycles of any duration as you can manage in 24 hours. The times are written on the dial but you can set your own calibration by setting one pin on, turning the dial until the appliance turns on, then that pin will represent the current time and you can count from there. Might be simpler to have some one mark the dial and case for midnight so you can reset it yourself if it gets unplugged or you lose power. Tony -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:48 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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Similar ones to those Tony describes should be obtainable from many hardware stores, they are often called lamp timers If it says digital forget it, these are old fashioned motors and gears. and switches, Once you have pressed a selector in to set a time, running the dial round it's travel you can usually feel and hear the thing pass the switch. Many also have a little knob that can be used to manually turn the appliance on/off and this turns when the timer does the job. Only trouble with these beasties is the gears these days are plastic and easy to strip so make sure nothing can get caught in the dial and hold it up. the other end of the spectrum is a timer made by Cobolt from britain that talks and can be set to do similar jobs but is buggy and way way over priced, strongly disreccommended I think it was designed to control portable heaters as it also has a thermostat of sorts. Before you plan to use an external timer on a device that has it's own clock which you can't access, make sure what else may be unset or reset when the thing looses power via your external timer. some digital devices save settings regardlesss of power off, some don't. Hope you can still find the good mechanical devices. Tom Fowle On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 01:19:14PM -0500, Tony wrote: The last ones I got from Harbor Freight a couple of years ago have 96 slide pins around the outer edge of the dial, one for each 15 minutes of the day. You push them toward or away from the center of the dial to turn the appliance on or off for the desired times. You can have as many on / off cycles of any duration as you can manage in 24 hours. The times are written on the dial but you can set your own calibration by setting one pin on, turning the dial until the appliance turns on, then that pin will represent the current time and you can count from there. Might be simpler to have some one mark the dial and case for midnight so you can reset it yourself if it gets unplugged or you lose power. Tony -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:48 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_p agePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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Jeniffer, there are several types of these, some more accessible than others. Tom's right that what Toni's talking about is pretty easy to set without eyesight. I have a couple that require you to insert pins in the dial that trip the switch as they pass. Mine click 144 times in a 24 hour revolution, so there's ten minutes per click. If you have a lot of patience, you can set one like this, but here's a hint, don't even try it if you're consuming alcohol. The pushbutton ones are as far as I can tell just about completely inaccessible. Also, be sure the one you buy can handle the current whatever you're powering uses. Some of these are meant for lamps etc., and depending on what you're using it for, that migey might not work. Good luck. Original Message: - From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:47:37 -0500 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE
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The timers I remember have a mechanical dial that turns once around in 24 hours. There little flat pins that you slide into slots that make the switch turn on or off. Each time a pin passes the switch it changes states. If off it is turned on, if on it is turned off. Now there is a clock face printed on the dial but that is for the sighted. If you want to turn a light on at 6 P M and off at 6 A M all you need to do is insert pins on opposite sides of the wheel and set it so a pin passes the switch at the two sixes. It won't make any difference if the clock face says 1 A M when it's really 9 P M. If the switch changes at the right time it is right. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares bricemija...@att.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers good question, I doubt any store bought one would be accessible. Wonder if any of the blind specialty stores have one? I wouldn't mind having one. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson jennifer_jack...@cox.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:47 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] outlet timers Hey Guys, Does anyone here use one of the outlet timers that you put in the outlet and then plug your appliance in to so you can use a timer to either turn it on or off? I remember my grandmother having them when I was a kid, but I do not remember enough about the details to know if a blind person could set them or not. I know many items now come with their own clocks and timers, but so often they are not accessible to set. This is to help with my conservation and frugality efforts. Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5185 (20100609) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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OK gang, with a little imagination and ingenuity almost any outlet timer will be accessible. Now, it may not be that you can plug in the timer and set the accurate time and then set the on/off times. But really, what does it matter if you have the timer set to read 4 in the morning when it's really noon? The timer will still operate on a 24-hour cycle and what you need to do is to set the on/off times according to your needs. Usually these timers have little inserts that you depress into the dial to activate the trigger. If you set the triggers to go on and off with some audio device such as a radio or electric razor you'll be able to determine when the timer is activating/deactivating in real time by checking your other time devices. These things usually have a tactile arrowhead that indicates the trigger point; that is that if one of the inserts is depressed and passes that arrow it will take effect. So, if you want a lamp to come on at 7:30 in the evening, place the first insert (depressed) at the arrow and plug it in at about 7:15. Then, depending on whether the increments are quarter or half hour, count them to depress the other insert to turn the power off. It isn't really that difficult, just takes some careful planning. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net - By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]