RE: Steam pressure rises without stopping

2013-02-17 Thread Michael Payne

(when the pstat reached the set pressure)

From: mdp...@hotmail.com
To: brewtus@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Steam pressure rises without stopping
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:50:48 -0500





The safety relief valve hisses at 1.8 or so.  It is new.  There are no leaks at 
the threads.Testing with a meter revealed that there was still current to the 
element (steam) when the indicator light turned of (when the peat reached the 
set pressure).  Removal of the red wire on the element and the element still 
receives current.  PID appears to be wired per WLL instructions.  So the 
element is getting current and therefore heat after the pstat reaches a level 
where the element should turn off when the indicator light turns off.  Pstat is 
wired the same way the old pstat was wired.

From: papamu...@iinet.net.au
Subject: Re: Steam pressure rises without stopping
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:44:54 +0800
To: brewtus@googlegroups.com

I don't know your level of experience so please take these questions with a 
grain of salt...
It's not the vacuum breaker hissing is it?
What is the relief pressure rating on the safety valve? I'd expect it be at 
least 1.8 bar and higher so should not hiss until then.  Also is it hissing due 
to valve opening or bad seal on valve threads?
I guess you have the p-stat wired correctly?  There are often three connections 
on the switch common, normally open and normally closed.  You need common and 
normally closed.
Graeme
On 16/02/2013, at 9:46 AM, AngerManagement comp@gmail.com wrote:Can only 
assume the PID is involved...

On Friday, February 15, 2013 1:33:21 PM UTC+10, Michael Payne wrote:Looking for 
some help if possible. Installed the PID in the Fall. Heating element went. 
Sent back to WLL and they fixed that, among other things.  I had the machine 
working for around a week and the safety valve blew.  Long story short, I 
purchased a new pstat and safety valve.  Installed them tonight and no matter 
where I set the pstat, the pressure in the steam boiler continues to rise until 
the safety valve starts to hiss.  It will go we'll above 1.5.  1.7, 1.8.  Any 
ideas what old be causing it?  After initial install I removed the tube leading 
o the pstat to check for debris. I found none, and none in the pstat.

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Steam pressure rises without stopping

2013-02-14 Thread Michael Payne
Looking for some help if possible. Installed the PID in the Fall. Heating 
element went. Sent back to WLL and they fixed that, among other things.  I had 
the machine working for around a week and the safety valve blew.  Long story 
short, I purchased a new pstat and safety valve.  Installed them tonight and no 
matter where I set the pstat, the pressure in the steam boiler continues to 
rise until the safety valve starts to hiss.  It will go we'll above 1.5.  1.7, 
1.8.  Any ideas what old be causing it?  After initial install I removed the 
tube leading o the pstat to check for debris. I found none, and none in the 
pstat.

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RE: Pressure is now acting weird on my Brewtus III

2011-06-08 Thread Michael Payne
I have had good luck disassembling the OPV and cleaning it to solve this issue. 

 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:42:30 -0700
 Subject: Re: Pressure is now acting weird on my Brewtus III
 From: bigstormg...@gmail.com
 To: brewtus@googlegroups.com
 
 Just called WLL, they are sending everything next week.  I'm going to
 try to do this myself.  I hope it's not going to be too bad.  Thanks
 Todd for you help.
 
 Cindy
 
 On Jun 8, 2:20 pm, Todd Salzman to...@wholelattelove.com wrote:
  Please call our tech department at 888.411.5282. Tell them about our e 
  mails and they can assist you with the best way to get this taken care of.
   
  Thanks
   
   
  Todd
 
 
 
  [ Attached Message ]From:Cindy Goddard bigstormg...@gmail.comTo:Brewtus 
  brewtus@googlegroups.comDate:Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:10:20 -0700 
  (PDT)Local:Wed, Jun 8 2011 2:10 pmSubject:Re: Pressure is now acting weird 
  on my Brewtus IIITodd, is this covered under the warranty?  It's only 3 
  months old.
 
  On Jun 8, 1:54 pm, Todd Salzman to...@wholelattelove.com wrote:
 
   I would recommend replacing the pump, air remover and the OPV all at the 
   same time.  It will cost a little more to do all of them but then you can 
   be sure that you will have solved the problem.

   Todd



   Well, I did the adjustment, but it still flucuates (pulsating up and
   down, gets quiet when it goes down). Even though I put it back to 10,
   when I try to do a another blind basket, it only will go to around 7,
   but moves way past 10 when I put the lever back down. What is the next
   step? I also notice when the water comes out of the opv, it seems
   weaker. Is this due to lack of pressure?
 
   Cindy
 
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RE: On/off switch redux

2010-10-15 Thread Michael Payne

I too have experienced this.  In fact, during a several other repairs I have in 
the past noticed the degradation of the various electrical connections.  I did 
find the correctly rated switch at the hardware store 2 blocks from my house, 
but it was slightly larger than the hole in the machine.  So I went 3/4 mile 
further to a small electronics supply store and found the a correctly rated 
switch that did fit, although they were out of the lighted model.  The various 
degraded electrical connections I have replaced with some high-temp connectors 
and splices made for coffee machines that I did purchase at the hardware store, 
along with the correct heat resistant wiring, and followed the advice of others 
here on the shrink wrapping of these connectors, some with double or triple 
layers.  And when my plastic tubing between boilers finally began leaking (as 
described by others in the group here) I replaced it with copper tubing from 
the hardware store that I flared to fit.  It works fine.  I would stay with the 
rating on the original switch, but it is possible to find what goes in the 
machine through common supply channels.

 Subject: Re: On/off switch redux
 From: bmacpi...@me.com
 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 11:31:54 -0700
 To: brewtus@googlegroups.com
 
 Thanks Barry.  Todd had me look for that and I didn't see it--I wonder if 
 they eliminated that somewhere along the way?
 
 bmc
 
 On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Barry Luterman wrote:
 
  On mine the cause of the switch failure was a short in the connector
  inferior to the switch. There is a plastic covered screw connector
  below the switch which connects the thicker gauge wire from the outlet
  to the thinner gauge wire that is connected to the switch. I spliced
  the two different gauged wires together using shrink insulation
  replaced the switch  and never had any more trouble with it
  
  On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:28 AM, bmacpiper b...@kbmc.net wrote:
  Hello all,
  
  Well, it finally happened to me.  Came home from the station
  yesterday, and found my B2 (about 3.5 years old) was cold, and that
  whole circuit in the house was dead.  Found the tripped breaker on my
  panel, reset, and it immediately retripped.  Tried it again just in
  case...  :)
  
  Quickly isolated it to the B2, when I unplugged it the circuit reset
  just fine.
  
  I could smell electrical at the front/top/left of the B2, and sure
  enough, the top wires to the on/off switch are brownish and hard.
  Pulled the switch this morning, and it smells a bit like electrical,
  but still moves fine and is not melted.
  
  I have glanced through the old posts on the topic, but don't know
  whether we reached a consensus on the topic or not?  Replace with a
  high-amp switch from the hardware store?  Or did WLL get a good
  replacement that is rated for the load?
  
  If I use a generic switch, do I just need one that is 15A+, or do I
  need 20A?
  
  It's been a rough month on my espresso consumption...OPV, steam wand,
  switch...good thing I have some Irish breakfast around.
  
  Thanks as always,
  Ben Mc
  
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RE: B2 pump cuts in and out

2009-10-06 Thread Michael Payne

I had a similar issue last year.  I started by cleaning inside the top of the 
E61 head (removing the large chrome nut, and cleaning the stuff inside, 
etc.).  I then cleaned the OPV.  I eventually replaced it (OPV) even though it 
was spotless.  Neither of these helped. In my case, it came down to diassembly 
of the vibe pump and cleaning.  I know this is not recommended, but it looked 
like a very simple mechanism to me.  What I discovered was bits of thread 
sealant had come off and were plugging up the small openings at the outlet end 
(if my memory is correct).  Since then, no problems.  Along with the OPV I 
ordered a Vibe pump, which eventually came, but I have not replaced it yet.  


  
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