RE: Winning the War on Terror
From: Damon Agretto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2004 2:28 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: RE: Winning the War on Terror Andrew, Your allusion to Barbarossa is flawed. When the Germans rolled into the Soviet Union, there were plenty of people that welcomed them as liberators, not the least of which were the Ukranians. Had the Germans been less racist and didn't look at the Ukranians and other ethnicities in the Soviet Union (which is FAR MORE than just Russians) as being untermensch they would have been able to push to the Urals and defeated Stalin. With Ukranian manpower, food, and industry to support them, it might very well have happened. Even in 1944, when the Germans raised a Waffen-grenadier division for Urkanians, they needed only 15,000 volunteers; they got some 200,000. Even if after 3 years of occupation and brutality Ukranians were willing to do this, I think says a lot about Stalin's regime. Your allusion, therefore, would work only if the US managed to alienate the only really friendly faction (the Kurds) that are currently in Iraq. So far that hasn't happened AFAIK. Damon. I didn't know that about the Ukrainian division, interesting. My point was not so specific though. I meant more in terms of an invasion of another country turning out, in the long run, to not have been such a good idea. Andrew ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The ReptiliKlan Party - World Class Hypocrisy and Fraud For Over 30Years!
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Please try to keep posts below 40K of text. Posts larger than 40K require moderator approval. I don't know about Nick, but I'm not going to approve anything I haven't read in its entirety. And this week and probably next week, it'll probably take something on the order of 2 or 3 days for me to read a post that long in its entirety before I approve it. So if you want your post to be seen in a timely manner, break it into smaller parts. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Good Mark Steyn Column
Mark Steyn, the irreplaceable columnist for the Spectator, has an excellent column making (far better than I can) my point about what's happening to the Democratic party. http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php?table=oldsection=currentissue=2004-04-10id=4486 The link requires registration (I think) but it's free. = Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freedom is not free http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
[ADMIN] The flakiness did not end
Our dear telephone company has now completely rolled back the upgrade to our Internet connection, due to the instability it caused. That's the upgrade that we didn't ask for... We were on and off the air intermittently until mid-morning today, Pacific time, thanks to the upgrade. Nick -- Nick Arnett Director, Business Intelligence Services LiveWorld Inc. Phone/fax: (408) 551-0427 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES
The division of the human family into its two distinct branches occurred some 10,000 years ago, a few hundred years after the flood. Humans coexisted as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. In the pivotal event of societal evolution, beer was invented. This epochal innovation was both the foundation of modern civilization and the occasion of the great bifurcation of humanity into its two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle or aluminum can had yet been invented, so it was necessary to stick pretty close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days killing animals to barbeque at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of the conservative movement. Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting, learned how to live off conservatives by showing up for the BBQs every night and doing women's work like sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the liberal movement. Later, some of the liberals actually became women. Liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, invention of group therapy and democratic voting to see how to divide the beer and meat that the conservatives provided. Women were not interested in democracy at that time because most of them were still women back then, and the conservatives fed them. Conservatives are symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass. Modern Liberals like imported beer (they add lime), but most prefer white wine or foreign water in a bottle. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and french food are on liberal menus. Their women have more testosterone than the men. Liberals like deviant sex and want others to like it too. Their first successful city governments were Sodom and Gomorrah. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, and group therapists are Liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule in baseball because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat, and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumber jacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers, athletes, and generally anyone who works productively outside government. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals do not produce anything. They like to govern the producers and decide what is to be done with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals just stayed in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. Conservatives have principles, believe in a Creator, and the rule of law. They practice charity and give to the poor, normally through their churches. When in doubt on an issue, they check both the Bible and the Constitution, which they use as a constant reference in a changing world. They believe in the concept of truth. Liberals do not have principles, except for their dedication to stealing production of conservatives and undermining principled references such as the Bible and Constitution. They are never in doubt on an issue because they always do whatever is best for them without regard to others. They have no standard of reference. Liberals do not give to charity. They cultivate the poor like a cat cultivates a field of mice. They use the poor as voters and give them a portion of stolen tax money which they vote away from conservatives. Conservatives believe in self defense, both at home and abroad. They own guns and use them to discourage liberals and other common criminals. They provide guns to the armed forces to discourage foreign liberals and other foreign criminals. Liberals do not believe in conservative self defense. They disarm conservatives, and then attack them with impunity by liberal armies with guns. King George, Hitler and Stalin were all liberals who abandoned the rule of Law, had no principles except their own self indulgence, and attempted to tax and govern conservatives. Liberals believe in BIG government. They think the United Nations is the ultimate answer. Conservatives believe in the rule of law and when sitting on juries, convict common criminals and acquit fellow conservatives who have been charged by liberals. When serving in the armed forces, they shoot liberals from other countries who want to govern our country. Conservatives know the difference between a common-sense law and a bone-headed statute passed by some liberal from Massachusetts. When sitting on juries, they do not enforce bone-headed statutes, and don't explain their reasons. Liberals only believe in whatever laws are appealing to them, such as the privilege of making a living by taxing conservatives. When
There's no meme like chrome
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Private Spaceship Completes Second Rocket-Powered Test Flight
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/spaceshipone_test_040408.html The privately-backed SpaceShipOne suborbital rocket plane made its second powered flight today. Built by Scaled Composites of Mojave, California, the piloted vehicle was powered by a hybrid rocket motor to over 105,000 feet. The engine burned for 40 seconds, zipping to Mach 2, or two times the speed of sound, according to a source that witnessed the test flight high above Mojave, California skies. SpaceShipOne's second successful powered flight was piloted by Peter Siebold. No details about the flight have been publicly issued by Scaled Composites, although the firm did respond to SPACE.com inquiries that, indeed, the flight had occurred and a de-briefing about the vehicles handling during the test is underway. SpaceShipOnes first powered flight took place on December 17, 2003. In that test, the motor roared to life for 15 seconds. According to another Scaled Composites source, today's flight was the 13th airborne demonstration of the vehicle. Extensive testing The Scaled Composites SpaceShipOne project is being led by aircraft designer Burt Rutan, who heads the company. A major contractor for the hybrid motor used in the craft is SpaceDev of Poway, California. The rocket plane and its carrier mothership, the White Knight, were rolled out in a public ceremony on April 18, 2003. Nearly a year later, the SpaceShipOne has undergone extensive piloted glide tests, and now two powered flights. Scaled Composites has its eyes on snagging the X Prize, a high-stakes international race to fly a reusable private vehicle to the edge of space and return safely to Earth. The X Prize Foundation of St. Louis, Missouri will award $10 million to the first company or organization to launch a vehicle capable of carrying three people to a height of 62.5 miles (100 kilometers), return safely to Earth, and repeat the flight with the same vehicle within two weeks. The clock is running For the cash prize, however, the clock is running as the $10 million purse expires as of the end of this year. Twenty-seven contestants representing seven countries have already registered for the X Prize contest, modeled on the $25,000 Orteig Prize for which Charles Lindbergh flew solo from New York to Paris in 1927. Just yesterday, the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) announced it had issued the world's first license for a sub-orbital manned rocket flight. The license was issued April 1 by the DOTs Federal Aviation Administration's Office of Commercial Space Transportation to Scaled Composites. This federal paperwork green-lighted a sequence of sub-orbital flights by Scaled Composites for a one-year period. Safety first The FAA sub-orbital space flight license is required for U.S. contenders in the X Prize competition. In its 20 years of existence, the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation has licensed more than 150 commercial launches of unmanned expendable launch vehicles. The license to Scaled Composites is the first to authorize piloted flight on a sub-orbital trajectory, the DOT statement noted. While the highest criteria to issue a license are public safety, applicants must undergo an extensive pre-application process, demonstrate adequate financial responsibility to cover any potential losses, and meet strict environmental requirements. xponent It's Coming Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cats May Have Been Pets 9,500 Years Ago
And in other news... The discovery of a cat burial by French scientists pushes the known date of cats as pets back more than 5,000 years. The further discovery that the cat in question was not actually dead at the time of burial demonstrates that the relationship between humans and their feline masters was a testy one right from the start. Dave He Still Had 8 Left Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Red Hat Society
Several months ago I was in Quincy IL at a diner and saw a group of women (ok, there was a man or two), who all had large red hats and occasional feathery boas, and various loud red and purple outfits. They appeared to be having a grand old time, enough that I asked them what kind of a group they were- one woman told me we are the red hats. I thought it was just a local woman's group until the bookstore today. I saw a book today on the Society of the Red Hats... a group started by a woman buying large red hats for her friends who were turning 50 and should be enjoying life. This sounds like a great way to symbolically celebrate small wonderful parts of life. Anyone else run into one of these groups? Anyone got a story of similar groups that get together for the fun of it? (ok, maybe it is just the updated version of the bowling league theme, but I thought it was cool.) Dee Still gotta actually buy and read the book :-) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Red Hat Society
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:51:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who all had large red hats and occasional feathery boas, Sounds very constricting... -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cats May Have Been Pets 9,500 Years Ago
At 08:49 PM 4/8/2004, you wrote: And in other news... The discovery of a cat burial by French scientists pushes the known date of cats as pets back more than 5,000 years. The further discovery that the cat in question was not actually dead at the time of burial demonstrates that the relationship between humans and their feline masters was a testy one right from the start. Dave He Still Had 8 Left Maru Exactly what I was thinking! Was the cat buried with it's head above ground? Kevin T. - VRWLC Don't hate me ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES
Robert Seeberger wrote: So, what'll it be? Wine or Beer? Domestic or Imported? Shiner. Unless someone's offering a margarita (on the rocks, with salt) made with Jose Cuervo Gold. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: How the fish got its fingers
At 08:16 PM 4/1/2004, you wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=5074 91 Revealed: How the fish got its fingers By Steve Connor, Science Editor 02 April 2004 A two-lane highway in America has helped scientists to explain one of life's most enduring mysteries: how fish grew the fingers that enabled them to crawl out on to land. The road in Pennsylvania happened to be cut out of 365 million-year-old rock in which the researchers found the oldest known fossilised arm bone of one of the world's first four-legged creatures, or tetrapods. Dr Coates and his colleagues Neil Shubin and Edward Daeschler believe the fossilised bone found in Pennsylvania helped the forelimb fulfil an intermediate function between the braking and steering of a fish's fin and the walking movements of an early amphibian. Drs Daeschler and Shubin found the fossil in 1993 when they were excavating near the highway but it took nearly eight years to discover it was important. The same palaeontology site in Pennsylvania has yielded two other types of tetrapod living in the Devonian period, Dr Clack said. If this is really a third form, it hints at a wide diversity of tetrapods existing in close proximity, in what is emerging as one of the richest and most varied of any late Devonian vertebrate site, she added. The scientists who have excavated the Pennsylvania site said it contains fossils of other plants and animals that suggest the area was teeming with life more than 360 million years ago. This highway goes right through my hometown; the cut is five miles to the east. My grandfather worked on the first cut; many other friends and family worked on the second cut to widen the road in the early 70s. This road has many cuts like this. Some made in the 30s, others redone a few years ago. If there's a nice snowfall the road can get shut for days from slides; not rock slides but the snow getting funneled through a cut. The article doesn't say it, but the original person who started looking here is just an amateur; not that it detracts from the finds. Now some weekends there can be 20 or more people working. I've posted about this before. They have their own website. Look at the picture and think that it's in PA, not Utah. It can get very hot during the summer. http://www.mdgekko.com/devonian/who/pages/who.html Kevin T. - VRWLC 60 hours from now I'll be driving past it ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Red Hat Society
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 08:51:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who all had large red hats and occasional feathery boas, Sounds very constricting... Not that I've had immediate personal experience with it, but I'm told that feather boas can be liberating. :) Julia but feather boas shed feathers like nobody's business ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Winning the War on Terror
I didn't know that about the Ukrainian division, interesting. Now that I'm home (I posted the former message from work) I was able to look at my references. Some of my figures were off: 100,000 volunteers turned out for the division in April 1943; some 30,000 were found fit for service. After training it was returned to its area of recruitment (now as the 14. SS-Freiwilligen-Division Galizien) and was decimated in the Brody-Tarnow pocket, desperately trying to stem the Soviet advance. Having lost some 11,000 troops, they ceased to be a functioning combat unit and never fought again. Source: Stein, George H. _Hitler's Elite Guard at War: The Waffen-SS, 1939-1945. Damon. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This time I won't blame Bush
Tom Beck wrote: The New York Times deservedly won the Pulitzer Prize for public service journalism for its series Dangerous Business about companies deliberately endangering workers' lives. http://www.nytimes.com/ref/national/WORK_INDEX.html Damn. Reminded me a bit of Upton Sinclair's _The Jungle_ in some ways. Julia who just now finished reading the third installment in Dangerous Business and who hasn't looked at When Workers Die yet ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: There's no meme like chrome
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:03:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have a pair of ruby slippers? I do hope this list delay was not somehow induced. Anyone have a pair of ruby slippers? Somewhat worn and dull Rubber soles and plastic zippers Worn once, I've heard, by Jethro Tull Anyone seen a mathematics diploma? Harvard or Yale, I think, Last seen north of Oklahoma, Jeeze, I don't mean to make a stink. Anyone seen a medal of honor? Great big plastic thing. If I've lost it I'm a gonner. Can't dance and sure can't sing. Anyone seen a giant ticker? Wind it once a day. Given me by a city slicker, Who seems to have flown away. Anyone seen a chrome banana? Name of Steely Dan. Belongs to a friend, I'll call her Hanna, She says that it's her man. Oh but I do hope this long delay, Was not somehow induced. We all want to go in to play, See how our meme's abused? Okay, that's enough time wasted, Writing silly verse, I'm sure that I'm to be lambasted, Or pro'lly something worse. -- Doug It's William's fault. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This time I won't blame Bush
Damn. Reminded me a bit of Upton Sinclair's _The Jungle_ in some ways. The story about the young man who drowned in mud had me almost shaking with rage. The fact that literally nothing was done to punish the woman who owns the company that employed him - how can _anyone_ not feel infuriated by the lack of justice in this case? -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: There's no meme like chrome
In a message dated 4/8/2004 9:23:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, that's enough time wasted, Writing silly verse, I'm sure that I'm to be lambasted, Or pro'lly something worse. -- Doug It's William's fault. I think that lamb deserves a full hour in the Jacuzzi. Good stuff, Maynard. For your next number, how about: Ode to a Landlocked Hoon. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The ReptiliKlan Party - World Class Hypocrisy and Fraud For Over 30Years!
From: Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56171-2004Apr6.html? referrer=email http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56171-2004Apr6?language=printe r [http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56171-2004Apr6?language=printer ] - If evil could be branded, its emblem would be the Wal-Mart logo. -Inthesetimes article ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
The fine art of cooking Rice
From Al Franken's blog: http://www.ofrankenfactor.com/ CONDI RICE AND THE CASE OF THE DISAPPEARING TASK FORCE by Ben Wikler and Tim Bradley 4/8/2004 at 20:05 In her testimony before the 9/11 Commission today, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice defended the Bush administrations pre-9/11 record by referring, on two occasions, to a task force headed by Vice President Cheney that was to review all of the recommendations for domestic preparedness in the event of an attack on the US. She said: The vice president was, a little later in, I think, in May, tasked by the president to put together a group to look at all of the recommendations that had been made about domestic preparedness and all of the questions associated with that; to take the Gilmore report and the Hart-Rudman report and so forth and to try to make recommendations about what might have been done. And again, Cheneys comprehensive task force: Now, the vice president was asked by the president, and that was tasked in May, to put all of this together and to see if he could put together, from all of the recommendations, a program for protection of the homeland against WMD, what else needed to be done. Ms. Rice is correct about Cheneys mission. President Bush announced the Cheney-led homeland-security task force on May 8, 2001. Moreover, Bush announced that I will periodically chair a meeting of the National Security Council to review these efforts. Cheney would run the task force, and Bush would review its conclusions. One thing that Rice left out, though: the task force never met. As Barton Gellman of the Washington Post reported in 2002: Neither Cheneys review nor Bushs took place. Michael Elliott of Time Magazine reported the same thing: MAY 8: Bush creates a new Office of National Preparedness for terrorism and promises a government review, led by Dick Cheney, into the consequences of a domestic attack. It never happens. Rice was testifying under oath. She didnt claim that it met, so she did not technically perjure herselfbut she was being dishonest. And its clear that she knew what she was doing: saying that Cheney was tasked by the president without mentioning that Cheney didnt follow through is an artful way of giving the false impression of focus and activity. The 9/11 commissioners should have called her on it. But they shouldnt have had to. Rices testimony was another deliberate attempt to mislead the public and cover up the Bush administrations miserable record in fighting terror before the 9/11 attacks. -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Pournelle --___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frequent ejaculation may protect against cancer
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4861 Frequent sexual intercourse and masturbation protects men against a common form of cancer, suggests the largest study of the issue to date yet. The US study, which followed nearly 30,000 men over eight years, showed that those that ejaculated most frequently were significantly less likely to get prostate cancer. The results back the findings of a smaller Australian study revealed by New Scientist in July 2003 that asserted that masturbation was good for men. In the US study, the group with the highest lifetime average of ejaculation - 21 times per month - were a third less likely to develop the cancer than the reference group, who ejaculated four to seven times a month. Michael Leitzmann, at the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland, and colleagues set out to test a long-held theory that suggested the opposite - that a higher ejaculation rate raises the risk of prostate cancer. The good news is it is not related to an increased risk, he told New Scientist. In fact, it may be associated with a lower risk. It goes a long way to confirm the findings from our recent case-control study, says Graham Giles, who led the Australian study. He praises the study's large size - including about 1500 cases of prostate cancer. Furthermore, it was the first to begin by following thousands of healthy men. This rules out some of the biases which might be introduced by asking men diagnosed with prostate cancer to recall their sexual behaviour retrospectively. Buy stock in companies that make lubricants! -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES
On 4/8/04 9:47 PM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone's offering a margarita (on the rocks, with salt) made with Jose Cuervo Gold. I will repeat the warning that I was given on a business trip to Mexicali...Don't drink that Jose Cuervo crap! This free piece of advice was given to me by the Governor of Baja California. He proved that point by summoning two waiters to provide me two shots of his favorite tequila, with limes and a Dos Equis to wash it down. I am usually not a straight tequila person...but when in Rome... After the shots he asked me what I thought of it. I guess my answer was good enough that he summoned the waiter to bring me a bottle on the house. :) Conservative beer drinker... Matthew Bos (if you are wondering, the tequila was Herencia del Plata) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frequent ejaculation may protect against cancer
In a message dated 4/8/2004 10:09:06 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Buy stock in companies that make lubricants! So you _do_ support Bush? Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: This time I won't blame Bush
On 4/9/04 12:29 AM, Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The story about the young man who drowned in mud had me almost shaking with rage. The fact that literally nothing was done to punish the woman who owns the company that employed him - how can _anyone_ not feel infuriated by the lack of justice in this case? As someone who lives and breathes OSHA and MiOSHA all day long, that case made me very angry. I am in charge of buying large stamping presses and safety is something that I plan from the beginning of any project. The sad thing about OSHA is that they only go where the money is. Since I work for a large corporation, we are under a lot more scrutiny than a small business with 5-10 employees. But more often than not...its employees not thinking about what they're doing. Eyeglasses with sideshields required, Matthew Bos ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Frequent ejaculation may protect against cancer
On 4/9/04 1:08 AM, Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy stock in companies that make lubricants! You may go blind...but you will have a healthy prostate! Matthew Bos ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Have you heard of the No-Carb Diet for 2004?
Have you heard of the No-Carb Diet for 2004? NO C-heney NO A-shcroft NO R-umsfeld NO B-ush and absolutely NO RICE! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
