Re: Week 2 NFL Picks

2006-09-24 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

John D. Giorgis wrote:

NY Giants at Philadelphia - Pick: EAGLES


How about them Giants??  I can't believe they turned that around, as 
they were being soundly whupped for the first 40 minutes of the game.
Though I have to wonder if it's a sign of their resiliency or the 
Eagles' inability to close out games.


Jim


Not that I like ANYONE in the NFC East at this point (although I will 
root for the Cowboys if T.O. isn't playing), but I like Eli Manning.  :)


(I also like his brother, and enjoyed some of his brother's game that 
day, as well.)


Julia
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Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-24 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:


On 18 Sep 2006, at 12:43AM, Dave Land wrote:


On Sep 16, 2006, at 4:24 PM, William T Goodall wrote:


On 16 Sep 2006, at 9:12PM, Dave Land wrote:


After watching the Pyroclastic video that WTG pointed to,


Not me.

Just to clear that up Maru


Of course not. It was Jonathan Gibson.

Gibson ... Goodall ... I think there's more to the similarity
of these names than meets the eye. ;-)



We're obviously part of the world-wide secret conspiracy of people whose 
surnames begin with G.


Not so secret now Maru


OMG, I just realized I have no idea of the last names of some of my RL 
friends, so I don't know if they're in on that particular conspiracy!  Aie!


Julia

who knows of an infant that's got to be in on it!  aie!
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Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-24 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 24 Sep 2006 at 10:55, Charlie Bell wrote:

  I occasionally say that evolution is a theory in much the same way  
  that gravity is.
 
  How it works is a theory.
 
  Kind of a mystery, too, which is pretty cool when you think about it.
 
 Very cool indeed. Mysteries are what science is all about.

Even when the suggestions are as..odd..as the one from m-theory that 
our universe has no inherent gravity, it gets it via leakage from 
another universe nearby in m-space, hence why it's so weak...

AndrewC
Dawn Falcon

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Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-24 Thread Charlie Bell


On 25/09/2006, at 9:31 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:


On 24 Sep 2006 at 10:55, Charlie Bell wrote:


I occasionally say that evolution is a theory in much the same way
that gravity is.


How it works is a theory.


Kind of a mystery, too, which is pretty cool when you think about  
it.


Very cool indeed. Mysteries are what science is all about.


Even when the suggestions are as..odd..as the one from m-theory that
our universe has no inherent gravity, it gets it via leakage from
another universe nearby in m-space, hence why it's so weak...


Yeah, or dark matter which is more and more weird the more I  
understand it. Still, doesn't matter how weird it is as long as it  
works...


Charlie
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Re: Brin: basic is evil, why it must be eradicated

2006-09-24 Thread maru dubshinki

On 9/23/06, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maru wrote:

 The Wikipedia entry for R is under GNU-S :-)


 I hate to play the pedantic resident Wikipedia expert here,

marudubinski, I presume :-)


You forgot the Dr.! ...(Nah, I'm kidding.)


Ok, but if we want to use the search engine from the initial page, it's much
simpler to search for GNU-S then to search for R :-P

Alberto Monteiro


Certainly, but how many people know of it as the GNU implementation of
the S programming language (or is it family now? Doesn't seem very
clear) rather than as the R programming language? Google hits prove
nothing of course, but R programming language gets ~50,300,000 ghits
and GNU-S ~3,910,000  (I'm not including hits for GNU S, since
looking over the top 20 shows it to be a rather ambiguous term, but
even GNU-S's first hit is for the mail reader Gnus).

~maru
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Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-24 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 11:48 AM Tuesday 9/19/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:

Charlie Bell wrote:

On 08/09/2006, at 7:16 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:



Probably you haven't asked the right person. I base my ethical 
decisions on my ability to empathize. If I know a given action would 
cause me misery, I know that it's an action I shouldn't perpetrate 
upon another.
...unless you've asked first. While do unto others is a reasonable 
first approximation, it can also be arrogance to assume that what we 
want is what others want. But it's a starting point.


On that note, I recommend
http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=17

Important excerpt:

The Platinum Rule is: Do unto others as they would have you do unto them.

Essentially, treat people how THEY want to be treated, and expect 
others to treat you how YOU want to be treated. The single most 
important aspect of expecting this from others is communicating how 
you expect to be treated. Yep, communicate your expectations; anything 
from how or how not to act, what you will or will not put up with, to 
what you want or don’t want. You might be surprised, many people are 
often relieved (even if it is a little unnerving or the circumstances 
upsetting) to understand what’s actually expected of them




Isn't GO AWAY!! sufficient?  How about DROP DEAD!?




 ­ it makes things easier for both of you in the long run.



Brief And To The Point Maru


That's somewhat rude, and if you're going to have an ongoing 
relationship with someone (for example, your parents-in-law), you have 
to work a little harder at it.  :)


Julia

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Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-24 Thread Julia Thompson

Ritu wrote:

Julia wrote:

D. I Own more translations of the Bible than there are regulars on 
this list.
Query:  Can you list the translations you own?  I'm just curious.  A 
no answer will be accepted graciously.


I was saving up qone uestion for you:

How many translations would Fool need to own for his statement to be
factually accurate? 


And 'tis okay if you don't want to/can't answer that, and I can be
mailed off-list as well. :)

Ritu
GCU Curious Meself


By regulars, I think he means people who post frequently.

How frequently is frequent enough, I don't know.

So I don't know how many he means.

Julia
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Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliab...

2006-09-24 Thread Bemmzim
 
In a message dated 9/22/2006 9:39:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That  natural  
selection is *part* of the mechanism is close to certain.  But there's  
way more to speciation - kin selection, sexual  selection, allopatric/ 
synpatric speciation. We're discovering some  amazing processes by  
which differential survival rates are  maximised.



I think that what Pinker meant was that natural selection explains the  
presence of useful functions in creatures. All of the other mechanisms exist 
for  
sure but to get good and useful doohickeys one needs selection. 
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Re: Week 2 NFL Picks

2006-09-24 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson wrote:
Jim Sharkey wrote:
 How about them Giants??

Not that I like ANYONE in the NFC East at this point (although I 
will root for the Cowboys if T.O. isn't playing), but I like Eli 
Manning.  :)

I didn't get to see the game, but everything I read pointed to an
awful performance this week.  Bleaugh.

Jim

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Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-24 Thread maru dubshinki

On 9/24/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


By regulars, I think he means people who post frequently.

How frequently is frequent enough, I don't know.

So I don't know how many he means.

Julia


Well, we can find out simply by asking each poster whether they get
enough roughage in their daily diet.

~maru
the least intrusive methods are best...
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Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliab...

2006-09-24 Thread Charlie Bell


On 25/09/2006, at 11:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I think that what Pinker meant was that natural selection explains the
presence of useful functions in creatures. All of the other  
mechanisms exist for

sure but to get good and useful doohickeys one needs selection.


If he's using natural selection in the broadest sense, encompassing  
all that I mentioned, then yes absolutely.


Charlie
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