Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-17 Thread G. D. Akin
Lalith Vipulananthan wrteo:
Kevin Tarr wrote:

> But there are times when the list is tossing off lists like
> water off a wet dog. Hard to keep track and most of them are not in
> the CDR.

I kept track of a few of the more obscure ones, and then I went out and
hunted them down via Bookfinder.com.

eg: the Master Li and Number 10 Ox books by Barry Hughart, and the
Continuing Time books by Daniel Keys Moran.

Perhaps I should go through and find the ones that the List recommended
and add them to the CDR, though reading them first might help.


> I'm just finishing Chasm City. I don't like it much.

Any particular reason why? Have you read (and liked) any of Alastair
Reynolds other books?

--

I read "Revalation Space" recently.  I was on-again, off-again about it as I
read it.  Mr. Reynolds has a rich imagination, but has trouble telling his
story coherently over almost 600 pages.  Tho' I usually enjoy long space
operas (such as A Deepness in the Sky), this could've been tightened up some
to make it more enjoyable.  His characters are not easy to like either.

I would give RS a cautious "thumb's up" because I like the answer in the
conclusion--it just appealed to me.  As a result, I will most likely give
"Chasm City" and "Redemption Ark" a read eventually.

George A



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RE: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:36 PM 1/17/2004, you wrote:
Kevin Tarr wrote:

> But there are times when the list is tossing off lists like
> water off a wet dog. Hard to keep track and most of them are not in
> the CDR.
I kept track of a few of the more obscure ones, and then I went out and
hunted them down via Bookfinder.com.
eg: the Master Li and Number 10 Ox books by Barry Hughart, and the
Continuing Time books by Daniel Keys Moran.
Perhaps I should go through and find the ones that the List recommended
and add them to the CDR, though reading them first might help.
> I'm just finishing Chasm City. I don't like it much.

Any particular reason why? Have you read (and liked) any of Alastair
Reynolds other books?
Lal
GSV The Fifth Ship
Slight spoilers



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I don't like the hero much. He seems too super human. Reads like a Bond 
movie. The ideas are interesting but nothing is grabbing me.

I bought R Space at the same time and gave to B-in-law for Christmas 2002, 
expecting him to read it and I could read it before CC but he has not 
started it. I got him an omelet pan this year.

As you said, it would not be nice to list the books if you have not read 
them. I've saved many e-mails with the books mentioned but it's quite a list.

Kevin T. - VRWC
time for work.
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RE: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-17 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Kevin Tarr wrote:

> But there are times when the list is tossing off lists like 
> water off a wet dog. Hard to keep track and most of them are not in 
> the CDR.

I kept track of a few of the more obscure ones, and then I went out and
hunted them down via Bookfinder.com.

eg: the Master Li and Number 10 Ox books by Barry Hughart, and the
Continuing Time books by Daniel Keys Moran.

Perhaps I should go through and find the ones that the List recommended
and add them to the CDR, though reading them first might help.

 
> I'm just finishing Chasm City. I don't like it much.

Any particular reason why? Have you read (and liked) any of Alastair
Reynolds other books? 

Lal
GSV The Fifth Ship


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RE: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 11:42 AM 1/17/2004, you wrote:
Kevin Tarr wrote:

> That doesn't seems to be the right person. But I've been begging for
> something like this on our subservient list, they throw
> around titles and likes and dislikes so fast it's hard to keep up.
If you're referring to the Culture List, did you ever look at the CDR?
There were a large number of recommended books on there, with a brief
synopsis/review on about half.
Lal, who shouldn't really buy any new books for about four years or so
Yes I know about it. I got some books from those recommendations last year. 
But there are times when the list is tossing off lists like water off a wet 
dog. Hard to keep track and most of them are not in the CDR.

I'm just finishing Chasm City. I don't like it much.

Kevin T. - VRWC

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RE: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-17 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Kevin Tarr wrote:

> That doesn't seems to be the right person. But I've been begging for 
> something like this on our subservient list, they throw 
> around titles and likes and dislikes so fast it's hard to keep up.

If you're referring to the Culture List, did you ever look at the CDR?
There were a large number of recommended books on there, with a brief
synopsis/review on about half.

Lal, who shouldn't really buy any new books for about four years or so


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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 12:40:48PM -0600, Horn, John wrote:

> > From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Didn't someone send out a list of 4000 books a few years ago? John
> > Horn?
>
> Nope, not me.  Someone generated a huge list and several people
> volunteered to go through them and rate the ones they read.  I was one
> of the volunteers.  But as I recall, that was in August of 2001.  Then
> 9/11 happened and all discussions about that list were forgotten.
>
> I might still have the list here somewhere...

I am the culprit, but it was just a derivative work -- I lifted it from
Tristrom Cooke. He hasn't updated it for a while, but it is more up to
date than the one I posted so long ago:

 http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/6113/extend14.txt


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RE: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-16 Thread Horn, John
> From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Didn't someone send out a list of 4000 books a few years ago? John
Horn? 

Nope, not me.  Someone generated a huge list and several people
volunteered to go through them and rate the ones they read.  I was
one of the volunteers.  But as I recall, that was in August of 2001.
Then 9/11 happened and all discussions about that list were
forgotten.

I might still have the list here somewhere...

  - jmh
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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-15 Thread William T Goodall
On 15 Jan 2004, at 6:29 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:40:22 +, William T Goodall 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Following several months of development by me and lots of testing by 
the members of the Wednesday chat brin-l-books is probably ready for 
you all to try :)

http://books.scattersoft.com

An interactive web site where you can view and vote on books. The 
initial lists are compiled from lists of award winning books, books 
mentioned on list, and recommendations from the testers on the 
Wednesday chat.
Good stuff, William, thanks for putting that together.  How do we make 
suggestions?

You can send suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows development 
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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:40:22 +, William T Goodall 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Following several months of development by me and lots of testing by the 
members of the Wednesday chat brin-l-books is probably ready for you all 
to try :)

http://books.scattersoft.com

An interactive web site where you can view and vote on books. The 
initial lists are compiled from lists of award winning books, books 
mentioned on list, and recommendations from the testers on the Wednesday 
chat.
Good stuff, William, thanks for putting that together.  How do we make 
suggestions?

--
Doug
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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 15 Jan 2004, at 2:45 am, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Didn't someone send out a list of 4000 books a few years ago? John 
Horn? That doesn't seems to be the right person. But I've ben begging 
for something like this on our subservient list, they throw around 
titles and likes and dislikes so fast it's hard to keep up. So thank 
you William, I'll buy you a pint if I'm ever allowed back in England.

It seemed like a useful sort of thing to do, so I hope people use it 
and enjoy it :)

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Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/
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out of things they can do with UNIX." - Ken Olsen, President of DEC, 
1984.

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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-14 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:40 PM 1/14/2004, you wrote:
Following several months of development by me and lots of testing by the 
members of the Wednesday chat brin-l-books is probably ready for you all 
to try :)

http://books.scattersoft.com

An interactive web site where you can view and vote on books. The initial 
lists are compiled from lists of award winning books, books mentioned on 
list, and recommendations from the testers on the Wednesday chat.

The site allows searching by author and category, and has a 'new books' 
feature for returning visitors that shows titles added since their last visit.

To initially register on the site you need to provide a working email 
address which is used to email you a URL for activation. To use the site 
you need to have cookies enabled on your browser (but you can clear them 
when you leave).

You can vote, or rate, the books from Useless to Essential and change (or 
remove entirely) your votes as often as you like. The number of voters and 
the average rating is given for each book so you can see which books are 
most popular among brin-l-ers.

Each book also has a purchase link that takes you directly to the 
Amazon.com page for that book. This is an affiliate link which means that 
I get a small commission if anyone buys through that link.

--
William T Goodall
Didn't someone send out a list of 4000 books a few years ago? John Horn? 
That doesn't seems to be the right person. But I've ben begging for 
something like this on our subservient list, they throw around titles and 
likes and dislikes so fast it's hard to keep up. So thank you William, I'll 
buy you a pint if I'm ever allowed back in England.

Kevin T. - VRWC
Made a bobby cry 
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Re: Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-14 Thread William T Goodall
On 14 Jan 2004, at 10:40 pm, William T Goodall wrote:

Following several months of development by me and lots of testing by 
the members of the Wednesday chat brin-l-books is probably ready for 
you all to try :)

http://books.scattersoft.com

An interactive web site where you can view and vote on books. The 
initial lists are compiled from lists of award winning books, books 
mentioned on list, and recommendations from the testers on the 
Wednesday chat.

The site allows searching by author and category, and has a 'new 
books' feature for returning visitors that shows titles added since 
their last visit.

To initially register on the site you need to provide a working email 
address which is used to email you a URL for activation. To use the 
site you need to have cookies enabled on your browser (but you can 
clear them when you leave).
It seems to be off to quite a good start :)  Several of you have 
registered and between you cast hundreds of votes. Of Dr Brin's books 
we can see that  _Startide Rising_ and _Kiln People_ are the most 
popular. Surprisingly, neither of these has a '10' rating although 
several books by diverse other authors have managed that...

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Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/
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that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the 
majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish 
than sensible."
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Announcing brin-l-books

2004-01-14 Thread William T Goodall
Following several months of development by me and lots of testing by 
the members of the Wednesday chat brin-l-books is probably ready for 
you all to try :)

http://books.scattersoft.com

An interactive web site where you can view and vote on books. The 
initial lists are compiled from lists of award winning books, books 
mentioned on list, and recommendations from the testers on the 
Wednesday chat.

The site allows searching by author and category, and has a 'new books' 
feature for returning visitors that shows titles added since their last 
visit.

To initially register on the site you need to provide a working email 
address which is used to email you a URL for activation. To use the 
site you need to have cookies enabled on your browser (but you can 
clear them when you leave).

You can vote, or rate, the books from Useless to Essential and change 
(or remove entirely) your votes as often as you like. The number of 
voters and the average rating is given for each book so you can see 
which books are most popular among brin-l-ers.

Each book also has a purchase link that takes you directly to the 
Amazon.com page for that book. This is an affiliate link which means 
that I get a small commission if anyone buys through that link.

--
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/
If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?

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