Re: Democracy (was Health Care / The same topic all week!~)

2008-11-04 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The alternative might not seem any better, but for the money I'm
 pretty sure it couldn't be much worse, and I think its high time we
 try something else.

Your experimental system is highly inefficient. Don't you think it
would be much better to conduct a large series of trials on various
systems in parallel?
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Re: Democracy (was Health Care / The same topic all week!~)

2008-11-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:26 PM Monday 11/3/2008, Wayne Eddy wrote:
From: John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Democracy (was Health Care / The same damn topic all f-ing
week!~)


  Not even if they asked and you told them?
 
  How happy are you on a scale of 1 to 10? No, I don't think
  I'd trust my answers on that. Compared to what? Myself
  in the past? That would be hard to judge. Other people I
  know? Even worse (how do I know how happy they are?).
  And how to know how much of the happiness is due to
  the government and how much is the result of other
  causes?

Surely you would be happier in a juristiction with a constitution that
forbade government involvement in those activitiess you believe to be much
better run by the private sector?

Surely if you were aware that you were being poled on your happiness in
order to assess whether the existing constitution was to be retained or
replaced by one that encouraged wild government spending, you (and all right
minded citizens) would score themselves 10 out of 10 for hapiness to avoid
the change?S



So what do you do if the present system is badly flawed but the only 
proposed alternative does not seem any better?

(e.g., the named in the previous subject line)


. . . ronn!  :)



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Re: Democracy (was Health Care / The same topic all week!~)

2008-11-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!  wrote:

 So what do you do if the present system is badly flawed but the only
 proposed alternative does not seem any better?

 (e.g., the named in the previous subject line)

If you're talking about heath care, maybe having tried the one system
and pretty much universally come to the conclusion that it sucks, I'd
say its time to try something else.  We pay 24% more per capita (2003)
 than anyone other country and not only isn't our care the best; we
don't even cover 1 of every 6 people in the country.  We pay much
higher administrative costs (and _not_ mostly for lawyers), more for
medicine (even though we take less) and when one of the 40 million
uninsured get sick they have to wait till they're so ill that they end
up in the emergency room where care is much more expensive.

The alternative might not seem any better, but for the money I'm
pretty sure it couldn't be much worse, and I think its high time we
try something else.

Doug
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