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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:49:48 -0600 Ronn!Blankenship wrote: (And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up that *other* slang meaning of John . . .) I was biting my tongue, figuratively speaking, actually. I figured that nobody here by that name would appreciate any smart-alecky remark I might make along those lines, and not wishing to get *all* of them upset at me, I refrained. :) Julia Thanks. :) Although I'd bet at least some of us have a sense of humor about it. :) Jon _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:44 -0600 From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We do NOT all look alike! ;-) Too many Johns There is definitely a joke in there somewhere but *I'm* not gonna say it. And I'm much obliged ya didn't go there. All we need is for Ronn to get on another 'American Standard' posting kick. *grin* - jmh That's why I use 'jmh' actually... Yet, (un)surprisingly, it didn't work. :) Jon GSV 400 Posts To Go. _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:39 AM 3/17/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:44 -0600 From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We do NOT all look alike! ;-) Too many Johns There is definitely a joke in there somewhere but *I'm* not gonna say it. And I'm much obliged ya didn't go there. All we need is for Ronn to get on another 'American Standard' posting kick. *grin* I thought about it, but I'm generally loath to respond when there's no challenge . . . (And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up that *other* slang meaning of John . . .) ;-) Since You Asked For It Maru --Ronn! :) Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up that *other* slang meaning of John . . .) That's one of the jokes I had in mind... Sometimes I hate my name... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: (And I bet some people are glad that no one brought up that *other* slang meaning of John . . .) I was biting my tongue, figuratively speaking, actually. I figured that nobody here by that name would appreciate any smart-alecky remark I might make along those lines, and not wishing to get *all* of them upset at me, I refrained. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:32 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Jon Gabriel wrote: I checked my archive. That was John Horn who said that, not me. You're referring to your reply to him on 3/5? Oops, sorry about that. *Grin* We do NOT all look alike! ;-) Too many Johns If you do want my opinion on this subject Millions of Buddhist Indians view the swastika as a symbol of life. http://www.indiaprofile.com/religion-culture/swastika.htm So I don't think its use is necessarily _inherently_ antisemitic. But the symbol does represent Naziism to members of western cultures so I do object to its use when the intention is clearly to intimidate Jews, i.e. on a hate site, etc. Agree 100% :) Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] We do NOT all look alike! ;-) Too many Johns There is definitely a joke in there somewhere but *I'm* not gonna say it. - jmh That's why I use 'jmh' actually... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behalf Of Deborah Harrell --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... snippage ...I just felt the joke was racist and said so. But I wouldn't put it in the same category as a Nazi joke, because: snip Also, there _used_ to be an unofficial American policy of wiping out Native Americans (I'm simplifying, obviously). The punchline of this joke basically points to Muslims and says 'You're Next.' IMO, that puts it in the same category as the Nazi joke. This ties into my reason #3. (2) I took it as poking (sardonic/political) fun at a certain 'cowboy'... sniplet So the obvious follow-up question is do you believe that jokes calling someone a moron has an equal value to those that suggest they and their people are mass murderers? Umm, no - it was such a ridiculous position that I didn't think anyone could take it seriously. While it's no secret that I don't like Bush's policies WRT just about everything, I don't think he wants to, or would deliberately engage in, genocide. Despite his 'arrogant cowboy stance,' I think he truly wants to be liked. (3) underneath the humor I read a pointed reminder of what categorizing people can lead to (frex, the consequences of past policies that 'dealt with heathen savages'). It didn't exactly sound like a warning encouraging American self-examination to me. wry Well, I can 'read stuff into' as much as the next person, but it doesn't mean I'm always right... :) Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Gabriel wrote: I checked my archive. That was John Horn who said that, not me. You're referring to your reply to him on 3/5? Oops, sorry about that. If you do want my opinion on this subject Millions of Buddhist Indians view the swastika as a symbol of life. http://www.indiaprofile.com/religion-culture/swastika.htm So I don't think its use is necessarily _inherently_ antisemitic. But the symbol does represent Naziism to members of western cultures so I do object to its use when the intention is clearly to intimidate Jews, i.e. on a hate site, etc. Agree 100% Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:02 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Jon Gabriel wrote: It didn't exactly sound like a warning encouraging American self-examination to me. Hmm, I can sympathize with your reaction, but the above is how I interpreted the joke. While we're on the subject, I asked the other day why it is that the use of Nazi symbols is inherently anti-Semitic. I don't mean to be pushy, but feel it's important that I understand why you feel that way. I checked my archive. That was John Horn who said that, not me. You're referring to your reply to him on 3/5? If you do want my opinion on this subject Millions of Buddhist Indians view the swastika as a symbol of life. http://www.indiaprofile.com/religion-culture/swastika.htm So I don't think its use is necessarily _inherently_ antisemitic. But the symbol does represent Naziism to members of western cultures so I do object to its use when the intention is clearly to intimidate Jews, i.e. on a hate site, etc. Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 12 Mar 2003 at 1:25, Jon Gabriel wrote: This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... -- I would not have posted it if I thought that gallows humor had no place on the list. First off, I don't speak for the list. I just speak for me. But if I find something offensive I'll usually speak up. Judging by the responses from Kevin and Rob I'm obviously in the offended minority. Somehow I doubt either of them had family members thrown in the concentration camp ovens and incinerated/cremated while still alive and conscious. In my experience, that sort of thing in a family history tends to make one less than amused by jokes about it. I have (had Jewish family who stayed behind in Europe in the 30's when my direct ancestors fled to England) and I found it very amusing. Then again, my entire sense of humour is low. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:34:03 - On 12 Mar 2003 at 1:25, Jon Gabriel wrote: This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... -- I would not have posted it if I thought that gallows humor had no place on the list. First off, I don't speak for the list. I just speak for me. But if I find something offensive I'll usually speak up. Judging by the responses from Kevin and Rob I'm obviously in the offended minority. Somehow I doubt either of them had family members thrown in the concentration camp ovens and incinerated/cremated while still alive and conscious. In my experience, that sort of thing in a family history tends to make one less than amused by jokes about it. I have (had Jewish family who stayed behind in Europe in the 30's when my direct ancestors fled to England) and I found it very amusing. Then again, my entire sense of humour is low. Out of curiosity, did you laugh during the shower scenes in Schindler's List? (Someone mentioned Seinfeld here and it reminded me of the episode) Jon _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 12 Mar 2003 at 9:51, Jon Gabriel wrote: On 12 Mar 2003 at 1:25, Jon Gabriel wrote: This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... -- I would not have posted it if I thought that gallows humor had no place on the list. First off, I don't speak for the list. I just speak for me. But if I find something offensive I'll usually speak up. Judging by the responses from Kevin and Rob I'm obviously in the offended minority. Somehow I doubt either of them had family members thrown in the concentration camp ovens and incinerated/cremated while still alive and conscious. In my experience, that sort of thing in a family history tends to make one less than amused by jokes about it. I have (had Jewish family who stayed behind in Europe in the 30's when my direct ancestors fled to England) and I found it very amusing. Then again, my entire sense of humour is low. Out of curiosity, did you laugh during the shower scenes in Schindler's List? (Someone mentioned Seinfeld here and it reminded me of the episode) Jon I've not yet managed to SEE most of Schindler's list... Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Gabriel wrote: IMO, that doesn't make the joke acceptable. I do understand where you're coming from, but I still disagree. There isn't a stated goal of male Americans raping and murdering women either but you won't see me joking about that (hopefully extremely) rare occurrence for any reason. Not as rare as you'd like to think. :( According to _The Gift of Fear_ by Gavin de Becker, 75 women are raped every hour, on average, and the number of women killed by boyfriends husbands every month exceeds the death toll of a jumbo jet going down and killing everyone on board. Later on in the book, he recounts a story where someone made a joke that turned out to be all too unfunny, but a warning. At the California Forestry Association, one day the receptionist was out and there was a package addressed to the former president of the association. After discussion between several people, including the current president, they decided to open it. One man, Bob Taylor, joked, I'm going back to my office before the bomb goes off. And when the others opened it, sure enough, it *was* a bomb, and of everyone in on the discussion of the package, only Taylor managed not to be a victim of the Unabomber. So dark humor can be the expression of a warning that might not be taken seriously. Anyway, I'm probably rambling here Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:58:41 -0600 Jon Gabriel wrote: IMO, that doesn't make the joke acceptable. I do understand where you're coming from, but I still disagree. There isn't a stated goal of male Americans raping and murdering women either but you won't see me joking about that (hopefully extremely) rare occurrence for any reason. Not as rare as you'd like to think. :( According to _The Gift of Fear_ by Gavin de Becker, 75 women are raped every hour, on average, and the number of women killed by boyfriends husbands every month exceeds the death toll of a jumbo jet going down and killing everyone on board. Whoa. That's just awful. :( While even one instance would be too many, that does seem like *really* high numbers to me. :-( Are those global statistics or American ones? Jon _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:58:41 -0600 According to _The Gift of Fear_ by Gavin de Becker, 75 women are raped every hour, on average, and the number of women killed by boyfriends husbands every month exceeds the death toll of a jumbo jet going down and killing everyone on board. Whoa. That's just awful. :( While even one instance would be too many, that does seem like *really* high numbers to me. :-( Are those global statistics or American ones? United States. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:09:44 -0600 Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:58:41 -0600 According to _The Gift of Fear_ by Gavin de Becker, 75 women are raped every hour, on average, and the number of women killed by boyfriends husbands every month exceeds the death toll of a jumbo jet going down and killing everyone on board. Whoa. That's just awful. :( While even one instance would be too many, that does seem like *really* high numbers to me. :-( Are those global statistics or American ones? United States. I spent time on the rainn.org site this afternoon. They have more info and statistics. They're shocking. :( Jon _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Jon Gabriel wrote: IMO, that doesn't make the joke acceptable. I do understand where you're coming from, but I still disagree. There isn't a stated goal of male Americans raping and murdering women either but you won't see me joking about that (hopefully extremely) rare occurrence for any reason. Not as rare as you'd like to think. :( According to _The Gift of Fear_ by Gavin de Becker, 75 women are raped every hour, on average, and the number of women killed by boyfriends husbands every month exceeds the death toll of a jumbo jet going down and killing everyone on board. The murder numbers are high. Assuming a jumbo jet carries 350 people, that's 4200/year. At the US department of justice site the number is given at about 1250 for 2000. The rape numbers assume that only about 1 in 8 rapes are reported. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/homtrnd.htm Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... (maybe someone's already posted this, but I have ~ 480 posts to clear, so I'm passing it on) Cowboys and Muslims Three men are sittin' on a bench...One's a Texan wearing a Stetson, One's a muslim wearing a Turban, and the last an Apache Indian with an Eagle feather woven in his hair. The Indian is rather glum and says, Once my people were many, but now we are few. The Muslim puffs up and says, Once my people were few, but now we are many millions. The Texan adjusts his hat..finishes rollin' a smoke.leans back in his chair and drawls. Thats cause we ain't played cowboys and muslims yet. GSV Ouch! This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? Jon _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 03:04 PM 3/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... (maybe someone's already posted this, but I have ~ 480 posts to clear, so I'm passing it on) Cowboys and Muslims Three men are sittin' on a bench...One's a Texan wearing a Stetson, One's a muslim wearing a Turban, and the last an Apache Indian with an Eagle feather woven in his hair. The Indian is rather glum and says, Once my people were many, but now we are few. The Muslim puffs up and says, Once my people were few, but now we are many millions. The Texan adjusts his hat..finishes rollin' a smoke.leans back in his chair and drawls. Thats cause we ain't played cowboys and muslims yet. GSV Ouch! This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? Jon Like: How do you fit forty four people in a Volkswagon? Kevin T. - VRWC Can I handle your bag sir? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 15:04 11-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Cowboys and Muslims Three men are sittin' on a bench...One's a Texan wearing a Stetson, One's a muslim wearing a Turban, and the last an Apache Indian with an Eagle feather woven in his hair. The Indian is rather glum and says, Once my people were many, but now we are few. The Muslim puffs up and says, Once my people were few, but now we are many millions. The Texan adjusts his hat..finishes rollin' a smoke. leans back in his chair and drawls. Thats cause we ain't played cowboys and muslims yet. GSV Ouch! This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( Personally, I could see the humour in it. :-) I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? Speaking of Germans: I found this little gem, that the Euro-bashers here (especially the Germany-bashers) might enjoy. It is a parody on Deutschland uber alles (Germany's national anthem -- now, y'all know how that goes, right?), said to have been written in 1942 by someone in the British 8th Army in Africa. Deutscher, Deutscher, uber alles, In the Sands outside Tobruk Saw a Jerry acting wary, Thought I'd go and take a look. He was sitting, pants down shitting, Down a little shady pass. |: Put a trifle up my rifle, Aimed, and shot him up the arse. :| GRIN Jeroen You ain't much if you ain't Dutch van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) GSV Ouch! This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( No it wasn't. It is a very very old joke. I must have been in 7th grade when I first heard it. I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? How many people can you fit in a Volkswagen? xponent Tricky Maru rob Aint nothin' gonna change If you can go away Im just gonna stay here and always be the same ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Like: How do you fit forty four people in a Volkswagon? Uh Oh!!! We be thinking alike Kevin! xponent Asynchonicity Maru rob I awoke this morning Love laid me down by the river Drifting I turned on up stream Bound for my forgiver In the giving of my eyes to see your face Sound did silence me Leaving no trace I beg to leave, to hear your wonderous stories ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... -- I would not have posted it if I thought that gallows humor had no place on the list. But I wouldn't put it in the same category as a Nazi joke, because: (1) there is not (nor will there be) a Texan or American stated goal or program of wiping out Muslims; (2) I took it as poking (sardonic/political) fun at a certain 'cowboy,' and jokes about many politicos have been posted; (3) underneath the humor I read a pointed reminder of what categorizing people can lead to (frex, the consequences of past policies that 'dealt with heathen savages'). Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:17 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? - Original Message - From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) GSV Ouch! This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( No it wasn't. It is a very very old joke. I must have been in 7th grade when I first heard it. Well I'm sorry that I don't find genocide jokes funny. Just because it's an old joke doesn't mean it's not offensive. I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? How many people can you fit in a Volkswagen? I've heard that one before and declined commenting on it when Kevin Tarr posted it because it's also offensive. I'm sure that the concept of millions of human beings turned into a fine powder by the Germans because of their religious views is funny to some people, but not to me. Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:48 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: [Humor] RE: Who is the sheriff? --- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor... Cowboys and Muslims snipped joke This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so many reasons. :( I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if it had a German making a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews' game? I'm sorry that you were so offended. It made me laugh out loud and then groan Oh, that's so bad... -- I would not have posted it if I thought that gallows humor had no place on the list. First off, I don't speak for the list. I just speak for me. But if I find something offensive I'll usually speak up. Judging by the responses from Kevin and Rob I'm obviously in the offended minority. Somehow I doubt either of them had family members thrown in the concentration camp ovens and incinerated/cremated while still alive and conscious. In my experience, that sort of thing in a family history tends to make one less than amused by jokes about it. Your apology is accepted. And, for what it's worth, from what I've learned about you over the past few months I truly doubt you purposely intended offense to anyone. I really don't want to give you a hard time on this. I just felt the joke was racist and said so. But I wouldn't put it in the same category as a Nazi joke, because: (1) there is not (nor will there be) a Texan or American stated goal or program of wiping out Muslims; IMO, that doesn't make the joke acceptable. I do understand where you're coming from, but I still disagree. There isn't a stated goal of male Americans raping and murdering women either but you won't see me joking about that (hopefully extremely) rare occurrence for any reason. Also, there _used_ to be an unofficial American policy of wiping out Native Americans (I'm simplifying, obviously). The punchline of this joke basically points to Muslims and says 'You're Next.' IMO, that puts it in the same category as the Nazi joke. (2) I took it as poking (sardonic/political) fun at a certain 'cowboy,' and jokes about many politicos have been posted; So the obvious follow-up question is do you believe that jokes calling someone a moron has an equal value to those that suggest they and their people are mass murderers? (3) underneath the humor I read a pointed reminder of what categorizing people can lead to (frex, the consequences of past policies that 'dealt with heathen savages'). It didn't exactly sound like a warning encouraging American self-examination to me. Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jon Gabriel wrote: It didn't exactly sound like a warning encouraging American self-examination to me. Hmm, I can sympathize with your reaction, but the above is how I interpreted the joke. While we're on the subject, I asked the other day why it is that the use of Nazi symbols is inherently anti-Semitic. I don't mean to be pushy, but feel it's important that I understand why you feel that way. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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(4) Mel Brooks would laugh at it. In To Be Or Not To Be, he did play a 'wipe out the Jews' game and out finessed the Nazis. It's all how you look at it, and some people shouldn't look when warned. William Taylor - Debbi or naughty Debbi? I aint a quisling. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
