Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
At 10:43 PM 4/2/03 -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: At 10:49 AM 4/2/2003 -0300 Alberto Monteiro wrote: MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious I do so regularly. JDG - The prayer that Saddam would disarm and step down hasn't been answered just yet, Maru. Mine, neither. -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof: Villager: Rabbi, is there a blessing for the Tsar? Rabbi: A blessing for the Tsar? Of course! May God bless and keep the Tsar...far away from us! I think Saddam is almost past the point where prayer can either help him or change his heart. At a certain point, one must reap what one has sown. A basic tenet of most faiths is that there are consequences for the moral choices one makes (or doesn't make) in one's life. My prayers are with the US armed forces and the innocent civilians of Iraq. What Saddam has done to them over the past 35 or so years almost beggars description. (This is not to argue how he came to power or how at times we may have helped him stay in power.) Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
At 10:49 AM 4/2/03 -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious serious I have been praying for the people on both sides since before the shooting actually started, as have many others I have heard from. /serious (You may decide for yourself whether or not you think I am a really religious person . . . ;-) ) -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foam God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
On 2 Apr 2003 at 12:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof: Villager: Rabbi, is there a blessing for the Tsar? Rabbi: A blessing for the Tsar? Of course! May God bless and keep the Tsar...far away from us! On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle for turn the other cheek. It's more an eye for an eye. www.mercerjewishsingles.org ahh heh :) Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle for turn the other cheek. It's more an eye for an eye. Except the rabbinical commentators always stated that the law didn't *really* demand such strict retribution. I'm not a Torah or Talmud scholar, but we _can_ turn the other cheek if we want to. But forgiveness requires true repentance, which obviously is not going to happen here. As I said previously, my prayers are for the innocent suffering people of Iraq (as well as for the allied forces attempting to bring some measure of liberation to that country). Saddam Hussein has, by his own malignant efforts, put himself essentially beyond hope of redemption. If prayer could change his heart, it would have happened by now. I'm not wasting my time praying for him or his murderous crew. Tom Beck www.prydonians.org www.mercerjewishsingles.org I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator On that note, that should be really religious _Christians_. Judaism has never had any kind of principle for turn the other cheek. It's more an eye for an eye. Except the rabbinical commentators always stated that the law didn't *really* demand such strict retribution. I'm not a Torah or Talmud scholar, but we _can_ turn the other cheek if we want to. But forgiveness requires true repentance, which obviously is not going to happen here. Our local rabbi stated that an eye for an eye... was really a request for moderation in a time of blood feuds. Back then, it was often a life for an eye, a life for a tooth, 5 lives for a life, etc. One of the most interesting part of reading discussions of law in Exodus, for me, is seeing the glimpses of the way of life of Israel before the laws. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: evangelical group tells brit marines to pray for dictator
At 10:49 AM 4/2/2003 -0300 Alberto Monteiro wrote: MARINES facing battle are being asked to pray for President Bush (...) serious Bah. Really religious people should be praying for _Saddam_ too. /serious I do so regularly. JDG - The prayer that Saddam would disarm and step down hasn't been answered just yet, Maru. ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
