Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Have you tried F7 ??? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this might be > my problem. Paul > > > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT > if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard > input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard > input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently > have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY > when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these > distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver > issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will > investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:14:28PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > You are probably right. I've been struggling with this issue for a couple of > months now. > > Is there a command to switch between the CLI and GUI with BRLTTY? I don't know, I only use brltty in text mode, no GUI. The issue might be in the GUI code, I don't have any issues in the tex mode. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:10 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > Hi, > I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. > I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever > with my new focus80 I obtained in March. > I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. > I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very > stable. > So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu > Would be my first reaction. > > Adrian > > > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and > > 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 > > LTS I have keyboard input. > > > > > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have > > keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel > > version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of > > BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have > > installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down > > to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you > > will investigate this. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Hi, I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever with my new focus80 I obtained in March. I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very stable. So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu Would be my first reaction. Adrian On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT > if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard > input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard > input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently > have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY > when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these > distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver > issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will > investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
Hi Paul, I just checked, I have ALL lines in /etc/brltty.conf commented out. I have the Alva and the FS drivers compiled in and this configuration brltty is self determining which driver to load. So my suggestion: since your version has probably all drivers compiled in let brltty self determine what to do. So comment out all lines in /etc/brltty.conf and I mean ALL!!! It's worth a try it works here. On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 01:03:59PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > You could be right as I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, > Ubuntu 23.04, and Debian 12 and I have the same issue. Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is > running BRLTTY 6.4 while the other two 6.5. > > I'll double check my drivers first. > > Paul > > -Original Message----- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 12:38 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:58:09AM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > I have done a clean install of Debian (latest version) this morning > > and experiencing the same problem as I did with Ubuntu 23.04. No input > > from the braille keyboard. It's quite frustrating. > I know, when mine was deliverd earlier this year it was a DOA. > Ik had to wait 3 weeks before an engeneer came a logn to fix it. It was sent > by postal delivery and they are sometimes a bit rude with packages so some > connection was broken. It was fixed very quickly and works fine ever since. > So my guess is that you have a hardware problem and you should call in an > engeneer to fix it. > > > > > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 11:42 AM > > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > > > I have been trying different commands. Some work. Some don't. For > > example, I can press dots 1-2-4-5-8 and chord to change to a > > contracted table but I can't press dots 1-2-4-5-7 and chord to change > > to uncontracted. Dots 2-6 and chord for escape doesn't work. Still no > input from the keyboard. > > > > I have excuted the following sysctl command: > > > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1 > > > > The output was: dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti = 1 > > > > Are there any other sysctl commands I can try? > > > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:02 PM > > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > > > Hello Dave, > > > > I cannot perform any commands on the braille keyboard. I've tried four > > different displays (all different models and makes). All with the same > > result. No matter what combination I press, I get no response. > > > > What I want is to be able to say change my table using a standard > > keyboard such as switching from NABCC to UEB in terminal as I cannot > > do that at the moment using a perkins keyboard on the display it is > > completely unresponsive. For example I would like to perform, as I > > would on a Focus Blue using the commands dots 12458 and chord or 12347 > > and chord, to switch between uncontracted and contracted using a > > standard keyboard, since I cannot do unable to do this as the > > commands don't currently work on any braille display. > > > > Basically, no Chord + dot combination work. Not one single command. > > > > It might not be a bug with BRLTTY per se, but it is a bug in Ubuntu > > 23.04, and 22.04 LTS wasn't great either hence the upgrade. > > > > I have executed the following command successfully: > > > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1 > > > > But it has made no difference to my issue. > > > > I might just switch to a different distro at this time. > > > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Dave Mielke > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:43 PM > > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > > > [quoted lines by Life in Six Dots on 2023/07/13 at 15:34 +0100] > > > > >I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04. I have the Focus and the > > >Brailliant connected via USB but I still don't have any input from &
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:58:09AM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > I have done a clean install of Debian (latest version) this morning and > experiencing the same problem as I did with Ubuntu 23.04. No input from the > braille keyboard. It's quite frustrating. I know, when mine was deliverd earlier this year it was a DOA. Ik had to wait 3 weeks before an engeneer came a logn to fix it. It was sent by postal delivery and they are sometimes a bit rude with packages so some connection was broken. It was fixed very quickly and works fine ever since. So my guess is that you have a hardware problem and you should call in an engeneer to fix it. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 11:42 AM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > I have been trying different commands. Some work. Some don't. For example, I > can press dots 1-2-4-5-8 and chord to change to a contracted table but I > can't press dots 1-2-4-5-7 and chord to change to uncontracted. Dots 2-6 and > chord for escape doesn't work. Still no input from the keyboard. > > I have excuted the following sysctl command: > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1 > > The output was: dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti = 1 > > Are there any other sysctl commands I can try? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:02 PM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > Hello Dave, > > I cannot perform any commands on the braille keyboard. I've tried four > different displays (all different models and makes). All with the same > result. No matter what combination I press, I get no response. > > What I want is to be able to say change my table using a standard keyboard > such as switching from NABCC to UEB in terminal as I cannot do that at the > moment using a perkins keyboard on the display it is completely > unresponsive. For example I would like to perform, as I would on a Focus > Blue using the commands dots 12458 and chord or 12347 and chord, to switch > between uncontracted and contracted using a standard keyboard, since I > cannot do unable to do this as the commands don't currently work on any > braille display. > > Basically, no Chord + dot combination work. Not one single command. > > It might not be a bug with BRLTTY per se, but it is a bug in Ubuntu 23.04, > and 22.04 LTS wasn't great either hence the upgrade. > > I have executed the following command successfully: > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1 > > But it has made no difference to my issue. > > I might just switch to a different distro at this time. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Dave Mielke > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:43 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > [quoted lines by Life in Six Dots on 2023/07/13 at 15:34 +0100] > > >I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04. I have the Focus and the > >Brailliant connected via USB but I still don't have any input from > >either of the Perkins Keyboards. > > Do chords (i.e. Space + some dot key combination) work? > > >Can someone point me to keyboard shortcuts for a QWERTY keyboard so I > >can navigate without a braille keyboard? I cannot seem to find this > >document. It would make working much easier. > > What do you mean by navigate via the braille keyboard? > > >Meanwhile, I'm hoping the bug will be resolved with a future update. > > Whatever the ause of your problem is, it's not a bug. > > I, too, am suspecting that it's the TIOCSTI issue. Did you maybe issue the > sysctl command and then reboot to get brltty restarted? What was the sysctl > command that you executed, and then what was its output? > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > >
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 10:00:39PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Thanks Adrian, > > That makes sense now. Thanks for the explanation, it's very much > appreciated. I will give it a shot tomorrow. > > If it doesn't, I will do a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04 again just in case > something got corrupted the first go round. I've never had this problem > before. I don't expect a reinstall will help. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:44 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > Hi Paul, > You can get the sources of brltty on the website, brltty.app It is a tarball > the name of the file ends in tar.gz, hope you are familiar with that. > In it you can find the directory Tables/Input, what you can try is copy the > contents of that directory into /etc/brltty/Input on your problem machine. > Then restart brltty and see what happens. > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 09:21:37PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > Hello Adrian, > > > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean, as I don't frequent this list all > > that often, so miss things. Could you give me the command or point me > > in the right direction? > > > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van > > Bloois > > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 2:57 PM > > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > > > I installed brltty 6.5 direct from the tarball Dave is providing 2 > > months ago with the same display and it works fine. > > Maybe you can steal the files in Tables/Input from that tarball and > > try again. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 02:45:12PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope someone can assist me. I have a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04 > > > on a laptop with a Focus 80 Blue (5th Gen.) connected vis USB but > > > the braille keyboard isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know the perkins keyboard isn't locked on the display. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have uncommented the Freedom Scientific driver in /etc/brltty.conf. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, Paul > > > > > > > > ___ > > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > > > > -- > > Adri P. van Bloois > > > > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
Hi Paul, You can get the sources of brltty on the website, brltty.app It is a tarball the name of the file ends in tar.gz, hope you are familiar with that. In it you can find the directory Tables/Input, what you can try is copy the contents of that directory into /etc/brltty/Input on your problem machine. Then restart brltty and see what happens. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 09:21:37PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean, as I don't frequent this list all that > often, so miss things. Could you give me the command or point me in the > right direction? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 2:57 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working > > I installed brltty 6.5 direct from the tarball Dave is providing 2 months > ago with the same display and it works fine. > Maybe you can steal the files in Tables/Input from that tarball and try > again. > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 02:45:12PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > I hope someone can assist me. I have a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04 > > on a laptop with a Focus 80 Blue (5th Gen.) connected vis USB but the > > braille keyboard isn't working. > > > > > > > > I know the perkins keyboard isn't locked on the display. > > > > > > > > I have uncommented the Freedom Scientific driver in /etc/brltty.conf. > > > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Many thanks, Paul > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
I installed brltty 6.5 direct from the tarball Dave is providing 2 months ago with the same display and it works fine. Maybe you can steal the files in Tables/Input from that tarball and try again. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 02:45:12PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I hope someone can assist me. I have a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04 on a > laptop with a Focus 80 Blue (5th Gen.) connected vis USB but the braille > keyboard isn't working. > > > > I know the perkins keyboard isn't locked on the display. > > > > I have uncommented the Freedom Scientific driver in /etc/brltty.conf. > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > Many thanks, Paul > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Time for 3.6.
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 05:12:44PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > Now that the DotPad braille driver has been written, it's time for 3.6 to be > released. I'd like to do this by Monday, July 17. Please help by testing the > latest code ahead of that date. I'm running 6.5 right now, do you really mean 3.6 orr is it 6.6??? > > A Windows build of the latest code is available (check for the files labelled > 6.5-356). It's been mentioned on this list, recently, that there may still be > problems with brltty's Windows .bat scripts. I'd appreciate it, therefore, if > they could be specifically retested. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Reliable braille display hardware?
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 11:45:17AM -0400, Jason White wrote: > I have two 40-cell braille displays, one of which is only partly > functional due to multiple hardware problems with both cells and the > command keys, and the second of which is not functional at all. The > second display is a Baum SuperVario 40 from the mid 2000s, parts for > which aren't available anymore. In the best case scenario, the issue > is only with the battery, which can be replaced. > > I'm investigating and considering my options. One of the options > would be to buy a new display. > > In the current market, which manufacturers are producing the most > reliable and long-lasting hardware, so far as is known? If I make a > purchase, I want it to last for a long time. I have been using an BC680 from Alva for over eight years. Then I needed some maintenance on some of the braille cells but they don't do maintenance on such old stuff. The insurance replaced it with a Focus80 by Freedomscientific and so far I'm very pleased with it. The Alva was very expensive, 1 euro, the focus80 is much cheaper, 4000 euro. So I do understand the insurance when they decided to give me a cheaper display. I mean even if it fails sooner you can have 2.5 for the same price. But I don't think that will be necessary. > > I think BRLTTY compatibility can be assumed for most, if not all > current devices. > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Keyboard tables
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 05:16:13AM -0500, Rob Hudson wrote: > Where are device specific keyboard tables stored? I want to swap around some > of the buttons on my new PowerBraille display so that the left buttons move > the display to the left and right instead of the right hand buttons. Within the source tree you can find: Tables/Input/TWO-LETTER The TWO-LETTER is a directory specific to your brand, al=alva e.g. and FS =FreedomScientific e.g. in my cases. You'll find *.ktb and *.kti files in there which discribe you display. The easiest way to handle this is make an my.kti and include that to the main configfile usually common.ktb. Recompile and there you are. > Thanks. > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
Hi Dave, Now that was easy, there already is an entry for CSRVIS, space+c probably stands for clear or cursor. So job done!!! :-) It was good to look at that mechanism though, you never know when you might need it. Thanks and have a good weekenda, Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 03:37:05PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2023/03/24 at 18:13 +0100] > > >Can you tell me how to make space+v CCCSRVIS to work? > > In chords.kti you'll find space + dots 1236 (v) bound to CSRJMP_VERT. You > could change that, but, in my opinion, it'd be best to find a free letter (or > some other character) so that a proper, permanent binding for CSRVIS could be > made. I agree, I'll have a good look at it. I'm a braille user so I''l try to come up with something meaningful. I will let you know. Thanks a lot, I'm already working with the new thing, it's slightly broader so it is getting used to it. Best wishes and thanks a lot!!! Adrian > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
WOW, this is great. Can you tell me how to make space+v CCCSRVIS to work? On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 12:59:53PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2023/03/24 at 12:07 +0100] > > >-How to switch to 8-dot braille? > > You can use Space+g (dots 1245) to toggle between computer (8-dot) and > contracted (6-dot) braille. Adding Dot7 forces computer braille, and adding > Dot8 forces contracted braille. > > >- How to switch to german numbers? > > This is best done in brltty.conf by specifying the text table and/or the > contraction table that you'd like to be using. > > >- Or rather where is the prefmenu gone? > > Space+p (dots 1234). > > >- I'm also missing the help, learn and info buttons. > > Help is Space+h (dots 125). > Learn is SpaceZ+l (dots 123). > Info (status) is Space+s (dots 234). > > >Is there a list of thing you can do with space+LETTER > > Go to brltty.app. > Click on Documentation. > Click on Key Binding Lists. > Click on Braille Device Key Bindings. > Click on FreedomScientific > Click on Focus 80. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 07:04:12PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2023/03/23 at 23:22 +0100] > > >I found something for the CSRTRK but it didn't work as expected so far, > > Use Space+t (dots 2345). That toggles CSRTRK. Adding Dot7 forces it off, and > adding Dot8 forces it on. Great, this works. Is there a way co configure things like this? E.G.: bind space+v CSRVIS or bind space+m MENU There would be an endless, well 26, row of options to do things like that. > > >for the CSRVIS I found no solution. > > There's currently no Focus binding for CSRVIS. Of course, one could be added. AH, that would be fantastic!!! > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 07:04:12PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2023/03/23 at 23:22 +0100] > > >I found something for the CSRTRK but it didn't work as expected so far, > > Use Space+t (dots 2345). That toggles CSRTRK. Adding Dot7 forces it off, and > adding Dot8 forces it on. OK, I have not been able to try that, some other problems I'm sturggling with. E.G. -How to switch to 8-dot braille? - How to switch to german numbers? - Or rather where is the prefmenu gone? - I'm also missing the help, learn and info buttons. Is there a list of thing you can do with space+LETTER > > >for the CSRVIS I found no solution. > > There's currently no Focus binding for CSRVIS. Of course, one could be added. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New braille display
Hi Daaave, On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 05:16:36PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2023/03/23 at 21:16 +0100] > > >I've got a new braille display and hence trying to get used to it. > >It's a Focus80. Some of the thing I read in the .ktb files dont work. > > Which ones don't work? I tried to find ways to do the same as on my bc680, on the 680 I configured: bind SmartpadF1 CSRVIS bind SmartpadF3 CSRTRK+on bind SmartpadF4 CSRTRK+off I found something for the CSRTRK but it didn't work as expected so far, for the CSRVIS I found no solution. > > >And I do not understand where the Hot1 -Hot8 buttons are. > >I thought they might be one of the cursor routings littlbe knobs just > >above the cells but they do nothing at all. > > Those don't exist on the Focus models - they're PAC Mate keys. They shouldn't > be in the Focus help. I'll look into that. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] New braille display
Hi, I've got a new braille display and hence trying to get used to it. It's a Focus80. Some of the thing I read in the .ktb files dont work. And I do not understand where the Hot1 -Hot8 buttons are. I thought they might be one of the cursor routings littlbe knobs just above the cells but they do nothing at all. Any suggestions? Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Britty bug?
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 07:09:04AM -0700, SamB wrote: > Hi, > > I am a software developer using a Ubuntu Linux machine and I have > found evidence that your Britty software for the blind is somehow > preventing my machine from creating virtual paths (i.e. > /dev/ttyUSB0) for connections to USB to UART bridge controllers. > It is logical that blrtty needs a device to commnice through to the braille-display, ttyUSB0, this device is created for that purpose. It's certainly is not a bug, you need to find another device to connect your uart to. First come firt served. > After researching this problem I did find a suggestion to disable > your Britty service with the following terminal commands: > > $ sudo systemctl stop brltty-udev.service > $ sudo systemctl mask brltty-udev.service > $ sudo systemctl stop brltty.service > $ sudo systemctl disable brltty.service > > This does work but somehow after a few weeks the problem resurfaces > (updates?) and I have to run this script again. > > Even though it is a little bit annoying, I can live with it but just > wanted to let you know that this is causing problems with mounting > some USB to UART bridge controllers. > > (This problem is with CP2102 USB to UART bridge controllers, but > there may be others as well) > > Thanks for listening. > > Sam Bozman > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] mutt stops brltty
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 06:30:50AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > Sometimes a message in mutt stops brltty. When I go to a console with root > already logged in and do something brltty restarts. > have others had this problem? Never ever. I use mutt daily, it's my fave MUA since decades. Which version are you using? I'm using 1.5.20, later releases have problems showing HTML attachement of play music attchments. Ik think 1.5.24 is the latest release, development seems to have stopped. Adrian > > John > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] Braille display recommendation
Hi Aura, Did you have a look at the Optelec BC640 or bc680? I have a bc69- 80 chars, too big for you I guess. But it has a lot of buttons18, a bc640 would have 9, but you can combine buttons to an actioan. There is also a sort ofcursor navagation toconfigure preferences. It has bluetooth and can be fed through USB. It is very reliable but also expensive. Have a look at: optelec.nl Adrian On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 04:56:22PM +0300, Aura Kelloniemi wrote: > Hello list, > > This is an off-topic message for this list, as indicated by the subject. > > I am looking for a braille display to replace my Freedom Scientific Focus > Blue. One candidate is the newer version of the same display, but I'd like to > hear other people's recommendations for other options. > > I am looking for a display that is about 40 characters wide. I need bluetooth > connectivity and long battery life. USB charging is ideal. The feature that I > most appreciate in Focus is the great number of buttons is has for assigning > to different operations. In addition to the braille keyboard and cursor > routing keys, Focus Blue has 16 function keys. > > I have tested Brailliant BI 40X and Active Braille 2021, but I consider them > to not have enough keys ??? Active braille's key layout is also not very > ergonomic in my opinion, as the display has been designed to be used with the > ATC mechanism, which is not very handy in terminal usage scenarios (and > probably not available in BRLTTY). > > So if you have any remarks that might be useful for me (including possible > deficiencies of the newest Focus Blue), I'm very interested to read. > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > Aura > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Stupid problem
Hi, I tried to upgrade to brltty 6.4, but no luck. On this machine 6.3 is running perfectly but when I install 6.4 the buttons on the braille display no longer function. Reinstall 6.3 and everything works fine again. I took abit of logging from 6.4 to find the problem but it doesn't mean anything to me. Here it is: 2021-12-06@11:05:29.735 [brltty] USB configuration set error 16: Device or resource busy 2021-12-06@11:05:29.735 [brltty] USB interface in use: 0 (usbhid) 2021-12-06@11:05:29.762 [brltty] /etc/brltty/Input/al/bc680.ktb[5]: table title specified more than once 2021-12-06@11:05:29.762 [brltty] data file include loop: /etc/brltty/Input/al/bc680.ktb 2021-12-06@11:05:29.762 [brltty] Alva Braille Driver: version 2.2 2021-12-06@11:05:52.109 [brltty] USB URB status error 71: Protocol error 2021-12-06@11:05:52.109 [brltty] braille input monitor error 19: No such device 2021-12-06@11:05:52.110 [brltty] USB control transfer error 71: Protocol error 2021-12-06@11:05:52.112 [brltty] USB: endpoint descriptor not found: 48 Hope someone else can make something out of this, Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Package question
OK, I've got it, I had to build the package myself from the EPEL distribution, but it is on board. Thanks On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 07:42:29PM +0100, Adrian van Bloois wrote: > On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 12:39:52PM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/12/05 at 14:03 +0100] > > > > >When starting brltty I get the following error: > > >2021-12-05@13:51:53.545 [brltty] CLDR open error: No such file or > > >directory: /usr/share/unicode/cldr/common/annotations/en.xml > > > > > >Which package contains this file? > > >I am running CentOS 7. > > > > I don't have CentOS here. See if you have the cldr-emoji-annotation package. > I found unicode-emoji but it only contains *.txt files, no xml content. > :-( > > > > > -- > > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > >"The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else >will save it." > Robert Swan. > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Package question
On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 12:39:52PM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/12/05 at 14:03 +0100] > > >When starting brltty I get the following error: > >2021-12-05@13:51:53.545 [brltty] CLDR open error: No such file or directory: > >/usr/share/unicode/cldr/common/annotations/en.xml > > > >Which package contains this file? > >I am running CentOS 7. > > I don't have CentOS here. See if you have the cldr-emoji-annotation package. I found unicode-emoji but it only contains *.txt files, no xml content. :-( > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Package question
Hi, When starting brltty I get the following error: 2021-12-05@13:51:53.545 [brltty] CLDR open error: No such file or directory: /usr/share/unicode/cldr/common/annotations/en.xml Which package contains this file? I am running CentOS 7. Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] connect a serial com braille display to mac running bootcamp windows
Hi Deniz, I remember from th very beginning of this century that I tried to connect my new laptop wish USB to the braille display I had at the time with serial. The converter I had, standard int the company, didn't work at all. A colleguea had a private USB <>serial converter that did work perfectly. Ik had a lot of trouble convincing the company to buy me a converter of the same type and model. So, there may be problems with the converter that you can only solve by replacing it with a model that works. I don't remember all the details, it is 20 years or so ago. Adrian On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 04:58:14PM +0300, deniz sincar wrote: > hello all. i have a mac with windows 10 that i try to connect to very old > braille display with serial communication with telesensary tsi protocol. > but i connect it through usb to type c changing driver with 3 usb hols. i > don't see com ports at all. how to choose a right com port? i installed usb > prolific driver, not from brltty but other driver. > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] The braillists forum and an article about reading in braille
Hi Sebastien, Before I retired I worked in the computer business myslef for almost 40 years. I was a Linux/Unix system engeneer and system manager. As far as your second point, I always used 80 cell displays, except for the first two years when I had a teltype producing 40 chars wide paper output. I never ever wanted less then 80 cells, when things change on the line you are reading you need to know immediatly befor the next value appears. This is absolulely crucian in monitoring live systems. If you're familar with Linux you could try e.g.: top -d 1 Lines can be very long and you don't know if something has changed at the end of the line. I'm surprised you use 40 cell displays, I could never have propperly do my job without using an 80 cell display. For software development is might be different, although the makeup of a program can contribute enormously to the readibily, even for pour sighted people like us. Best wishes Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 07:34:36PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/23 at 21:44 +0200] > > >Is there a similar way to fix my.ttb in the system? > > The very same way. Brltty always looks in /etc/xdg/brltty/ first. Great, thanks!!! :-) > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:07:11PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > If you'd put it in /etc/brltty/Input/al/bc680.ktb then it'd have been > overwritten by the upgrade. The best way to do what you're wanting to do is > to create /etc/xdg/brltty/bc680.ktb (yes, the same name). Brltty will look > for this file before looking for the distributed one. This is how persistent > customizations can be done. > > In this file, put your bindings and an include of the distributed file. For > example: > >bind SpartpadF1 CSRVIS >... >include bc680.ktb > > The include of bc680.ktb, here, works because brltty skips over files that > are already open. Great, this the way Linux does things, thanks for this perfect suggestion. Is there a similar way to fix my.ttb in the system? > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
Hi Dave, I think I found the probelm, one way or another the include statement of my personal additions disappeared from bc680.ktb. I put it in again and now it works perfectly alright. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for helping out and pointtting the way. Have a nice weekend Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 01:06:17PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/23 at 16:58 +0200] > > >The logfile is attached. > > Ufortunately, it contains almost nothing. I shuld've also sugested that you > add -ldebug. Could you please do that and send a new log? Here is is. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.3 rev BRLTTY-6.3 [http://brltty.app/] 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Console Encoding: UTF-8 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] lock descriptor allocated: queue-discarded-elements 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Log Level: debug 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Messages Locale: en_US.UTF-8 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Messages Domain: brltty 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Messages Directory: /usr/local/share/locale 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: path= 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: scfmode= 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: shell= 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] Privilege Parameter: user= 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] capabilities: at start: = cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap,cap_mac_override,cap_mac_admin,cap_syslog,35,36+ep 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] environment variable set: PATH: /usr/bin 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] environment variable set: SHELL: /bin/sh 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] temporary capability already added: cap_sys_admin (for isolating namespaces) 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] isolating namespace: mount (mount points) 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] isolating namespace: UTS (host name and NIS domain name) 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] default unprivileged user not configured 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] executing as the invoking user: root 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] not claiming state directories 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] working directory changed: /var/lib/brltty 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] environment variable set: HOME: /var/lib/brltty 2021-07-23@19:34:40.749 [brltty] starting host command: /sbin/modprobe -q pcspkr 2021-07-23@19:34:40.750 [brltty] host command exit status: 0: /sbin/modprobe 2021-07-23@19:34:40.750 [brltty] starting host command: /sbin/modprobe -q uinput 2021-07-23@19:34:40.751 [brltty] host command exit status: 0: /sbin/modprobe 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] path not group readable: /dev/uinput 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] path not group writable: /dev/uinput 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] path not group readable: /etc/brlapi.key 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] temporary capability already added: cap_setgid (for joining the required groups) 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] setting supplementary groups: 0(root) 5(tty) 18(dialout) 63(audio) 992(pulse-access) 999(input) 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] capabilities: after relinquish: = cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod+ep 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] pushed command environment: initial 2021-07-23@19:34:41.251 [brltty] report listener registered: 0: handleUpdateBrailleDeviceOnline 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] program exit event added: screen-data 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] Working Directory: /var/lib/brltty 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] Configuration File: /etc/brltty.conf 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] Preferences File: /var/lib/brltty/brltty.prefs 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] file opened: /var/lib/brltty/brltty.prefs fd=6 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] file opened: /var/lib/brltty/brltty.prefs fd=6 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] program exit event added: tunes 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] tune thread state change: 0 -> 1 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] tune thread state change: 1 -> 3 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] regions: text=0.0 status=0.0 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] shifts: full=1 half=0 vertical=5 2021-07-23@19:34:41.252 [brltty] Updatable D
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:34:00AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/23 at 06:23 +0200] > > >I did a grep in /etc/brltty/Input/al: > >grep "SmartpadF1 " * > >I had two results, one was my own in my.ktb the other was from > >bc.smartpad.kti > >I commented out the one in bc-smartpad.kti and restarted brltty. > >No difference. > > Please capture a debug log that covers brltty starting. The best way is to > use the -L (that's an uppercase L) command line option to specify the log > file. So, for example: > >brltty -L/path/to/logfile > > When you have it, please attach it so that we can have a look at it. The logfile is attached. I restored the old situation and again thes three configs do not work. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. 2021-07-23@16:54:48.429 [brltty] BRLTTY 6.3 rev BRLTTY-6.3 [http://brltty.app/] 2021-07-23@16:54:48.429 [brltty] executing as the invoking user: root 2021-07-23@16:54:48.933 [brltty] BrlAPI Server: release 0.8.2 2021-07-23@16:54:48.933 [brltty] unicode device not found 2021-07-23@16:54:48.934 [brltty] Linux Screen Driver: 2021-07-23@16:54:48.946 [brltty] Alva Braille Driver: version 2.2 2021-07-23@16:54:48.946 [brltty] NoSpeech Speech Driver: ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:34:00AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/23 at 06:23 +0200] > > >I did a grep in /etc/brltty/Input/al: > >grep "SmartpadF1 " * > >I had two results, one was my own in my.ktb the other was from > >bc.smartpad.kti > >I commented out the one in bc-smartpad.kti and restarted brltty. > >No difference. > > Please capture a debug log that covers brltty starting. The best way is to > use the -L (that's an uppercase L) command line option to specify the log > file. So, for example: > >brltty -L/path/to/logfile > > When you have it, please attach it so that we can have a look at it. I experimented a little further. I included my options in bc-smartpad.kti and they work. It looks like brltty sees my display as a bc but not as a bc680. I do the trick with the logging later today, I have to run now. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 05:11:39PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/22 at 22:36 +0200] > > >In bc680.ktb i put: > >include my.ktb > > So, in effect, you're creating duplicate bindings. It's possible that the > handling of duplicate bindings may have changed. I did a grep in /etc/brltty/Input/al: grep "SmartpadF1 " * I had two results, one was my own in my.ktb the other was from bc.smartpad.kti I commented out the one in bc-smartpad.kti and restarted brltty. No difference. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:55:21PM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2021/07/22 at 18:30 +0200] > > >I just upgraded brltty to 6.3 from 6.1. > >Some things no longer work as I expect them to. > >Using an Optelec BC680 I set different things on SmartPadF1-4 like > >this: > > > ># Personal additions by Adrian P. van Bloois # > > > > > >bind SmartpadF1 CSRVIS > >bind SmartpadF3 CSRTRK+on > >bind SmartpadF4 CSRTRK+off > > > >These additions no longer work. > > How have you defined your changes? In bc680.ktb i put: include my.ktb > > Could you please capture a debug log that covers when brltty starts so that > we can look for warnings/errors? > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] After upgrade to 6.3
Hi, I just upgraded brltty to 6.3 from 6.1. Some things no longer work as I expect them to. Using an Optelec BC680 I set different things on SmartPadF1-4 like this: # Personal additions by Adrian P. van Bloois # bind SmartpadF1 CSRVIS bind SmartpadF3 CSRTRK+on bind SmartpadF4 CSRTRK+off These additions no longer work. What has changed? How can I restore the these functions? Adrian B A -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Very usefull app
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Sh?rab wrote: > Adrian van Bloois (2020/09/10 20:14 +0200): > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:29:27PM +0200, Sh?rab wrote: > > > Thanks a lot Adrian. > > > > > > Do you know how this compares to Seeing AI? > > Yes, it's much better. > > Oh really? May I ask the name again,sorry? name: Supersense AI For iPhone, not for iPad > > Thanks, > > Shérab. > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sébastien. > > > ___ > > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Very usefull app
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:29:27PM +0200, Sh?rab wrote: > Thanks a lot Adrian. > > Do you know how this compares to Seeing AI? Yes, it's much better. > > Best wishes, > > Sébastien. > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Very usefull app
Hi List, There is an APP for the iPhone that is able to read all sorts of stuff and speak it. I tried to read CD covers, a friend of mine read whiskey bottles and the front of his TM-V71. It can also read barcodes and tell you what product it is, tell you what colours you show it, and tell which oject you show it. The app is called: Supersense AI You can find it in your appstore. I don't know if it is also available for Android. Have fun, Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] ***SPAM*** Re: Can BRLTTY indicaste indentation?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 09:37:09AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > I certainly agree that "Flat is better than nested." However, I am working > with an existing code base in Orca and modifications should conform to the > existing style. > I haven't kept the number of times I made personal copies to work on programs, it's really easy and personal taste is guaranteed. As a vim user that is really peanuts! > John > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:08:50AM -0400, S. Massy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 09:00:10AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > > > Consider the following deeply indented Python statement. > > > wordType = adverb > > > There are five tabs. I would like BRLTTY to replace them with simicolons > > > ;wordType = adverb > > > This feature would have to be optional and easy to turn on and off. > > > People sometimes use spaces to indicate indentation or even both tabs and > > > spaces. I would like spaces replaced with commas. The feature should work > > > only at the beginnings of lines. I've soon code with soo many tabs that > > > the Braille display is blank. > > > That makes coding really frustrating. > > This isn't exactly what you want, but my solution for this has been to > > shrink tabs from eight to four spaces in vim; that helped loads. > > > > On a stylistic note, it might also be that the code needs refactoring to > > be more pythonic, as "Flat is better than nested." is one of the > > language's core philosophies. > > > > Regards, > > S.M. > > -- > > Sebastien Massy > > Montreal, Canada > > Website: http://www.wolfdream.ca > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/SMassy1 > > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/sebastien-massy/47/5a5/81a > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Can BRLTTY indicaste indentation?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 09:00:10AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > Consider the following deeply indented Python statement. > wordType = adverb > There are five tabs. I would like BRLTTY to replace them with simicolons > ;wordType = adverb You have an editor for that!!! :-) > This feature would have to be optional and easy to turn on and off. People > sometimes use spaces to indicate indentation or even both tabs and spaces. I > would like spaces replaced with commas. The feature should work only at the > beginnings of lines. I've soon code with soo many tabs that the Braille > display is blank. > That makes coding really frustrating. > > Thanks, > John > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 07:35:30AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > > [quoted lines by John J. Boyer on 2020/08/21 at 05:27 -0500] > > > > >it is really the business of the screenreader. So I am wondering if BRLTY > > >has > > >a way of indicating indentation. > > > > Can you give an example of what you mean? > > > > -- > > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Can BRLTTY indicaste indentation?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 09:06:47AM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > My display is 40 cells. Five tabs of eight spaces will make it blank. > Speech screenreaders indicate indentation. Why not Braille? I worked as a programmer for ages and I never ever used brltty for this sort of things. Identation is within the text and to be interpreted by the reader. There are programs to put identation on a source code within Linux e.g.. If you use a 40 cell display then you are using the wrong hammer for the job. In my professional life I alwasy worked with 80 cell displays. > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 07:54:53AM -0400, S. Massy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 07:35:30AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote: > > > [quoted lines by John J. Boyer on 2020/08/21 at 05:27 -0500] > > > > > > >it is really the business of the screenreader. So I am wondering if > > > >BRLTY has > > > >a way of indicating indentation. > > > > > > Can you give an example of what you mean? > > I admit I am curious as well as I do Python all the time and have no > > issue with indentation. Perhaps he means replace a tab with a single > > character to minimise scrolling? > > S.M. > > -- > > Sebastien Massy > > Montreal, Canada > > Website: http://www.wolfdream.ca > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/SMassy1 > > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/sebastien-massy/47/5a5/81a > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] ALVA Satellite 584 Pro
Hi Mario, I used one for years but always in USB mode, that was much easier. I can't think of using serial after my ABT80. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 08:17:16AM +0200, Mario Lang wrote: > Hi. > > I am looking for someone who has used a ALVA Satellite 584 Pro at some > point. I am trying to debug one which is slightly unstable when used > via USB. I was hoping to just use the serial port, but for some reason > I can not turn the device on without USB connected. > Does anyone know, was there perhaps a magic trick to switch the device > to external power. > > -- > CYa, > ??? > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "The greatest threat to our planet is the belief that someone else will save it." Robert Swan. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Compiling 6.1
Hi, I get errors compiling 6.1 on CentOS 8, like this: brlapi_server.o: In function `param_literaryBrailleTable_read': brlapi_server.c:(.text+0x317): undefined reference to `opt_contractionTable' brlapi_server.o: In function `param_literaryBrailleTable_write': brlapi_server.c:(.text+0x6c3): undefined reference to `changeContractionTable' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Any ideas? Adrian -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] keycode, logfile, apitest.c
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 11:46:05AM +, Quartel, Eric de wrote: > >Hello, > >Try to run brltty with the additional command line option: > >-ldebug,server > >sudo brltty -ldebug/server -ldebug is sufficient, server is not a loglevel or facility. > >but get error message: > >brltty: unkown log level or category: debug/server > >> Where do I go wrong? What is the debug/server > > >When I compile apitest.c > >gcc apitest.c -o apitest -lbrlapi -I/home/pi/Documents/brltty/Headers >-I/home/pi/Documents/brltty/Programs > >I get the message: > >apitest.c: In function `enterLearnMode': > >apitest.c:229:11: warning: implicit declaration of function >`cmdBrlapiToBrltty' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] > > cmd = cmdBrlapiToBrltty(code); > > ^ > >/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccnQQ8Fw.o: undefined reference to symbol >'pthread_create@@GLIBC_2.4' > >/usr/bin/ld: //lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpthread.so.0: error adding >symbols: DSO missing from command line > >collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status > >>Where do i go wrong? > >Thanks for your help, Eric > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] BRTTY Freeze
Which flavour of Linux are you running? On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 11:07:59AM -0600, John J. Boyer wrote: > Hello, > > My Debian Buster machine with its brltty package and a pack mate display has > been freezing from time to time. When it did that today i logged in as root > from > another machine and typed "service brltty restart". The Linux machine > recovered. the pack mate display has been behaving a bit strangely, but maybe > BRLTTY could > be made a bit more robust. I never had this, my machine is on 24x7 for weeks, no problems. So brltty is sufficiently robust. Maybe it's the flavour of Linux you run that causes the problem. I'm running CentOS 7, latest updates installed. CentOS 8 is stable as well with brltty. > > Thanks, > John > > -- > John J. Boyer > Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org > website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org > Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. > Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA > Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services > that are available at no cost > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] keycodes problem
Eric,
One more time.
EVERYTHING in Linux should be done without sudo="root permission" except
things like make install.
The chmod 0777 should not be necessary either.
Just set your umask correct something like 022 should do.
You have to keep security in mind as well.
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 08:53:50AM +, Quartel, Eric de wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>
>>>After typing on the raspberrypi/raspbian
>
>>sudo chmod -R 777 .
>
>>git clone https://github.com/brltty/brltty.git
>
>>cd brltty
>
>>./autogen
>
>>./configure
>
>>make //error messages see make_messages.txt
>
>>make install //can't do this
>
>
>>>Getting the same error messages. See attached file make_messages.txt
>and config.mk
>
>>>When I look in brlapi_keycodes.h I cannot find BRLAPI_KEY_FLG_SHIFT
>and the other constants. See attached file brlapi_keycodes.h
>
>>>brlapi_constants.h is still a small file =56 lines
>
>
>>>I want to get brltty running on the raspberrypi raspbian, I dont have
>these problems when I download the tar, from brltty.app. I get
>brlttyXXX.tar version working on the raspberry pi with attached
>brailledisplays.
>
>
>>> When I do the same as above on a linux mint machine I dont get error
>messages and a brltty as output in /bin. Unfortunately when I run
>brltty with an adjusted brltty.conf it does not recognize the
>brailledisplays. (other problem) At this moment I have freedom
>scientific focus 40, alva bc640, voyager.
>
>
>Thanks for your input, Eric
> /*
> * libbrlapi - A library providing access to braille terminals for
> applications.
> *
> * Copyright (C) 2002-2019 by
> * Samuel Thibault
> * S??bastien Hinderer
> *
> * libbrlapi comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
> *
> * This is free software, placed under the terms of the
> * GNU Lesser General Public License, as published by the Free Software
> * Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any
> * later version. Please see the file LICENSE-LGPL for details.
> *
> * Web Page: http://brltty.app/
> *
> * This software is maintained by Dave Mielke .
> */
>
> #ifndef BRLAPI_INCLUDED_CONSTANTS
> #define BRLAPI_INCLUDED_CONSTANTS
>
> #ifdef __cplusplus
> extern "C" {
> #endif /* __cplusplus */
>
> /** \file
> */
>
> /** \ingroup brlapi_keycodes
> * @{ */
>
>
> /** Helper macro to easily produce braille patterns */
> #define BRLAPI_DOTS(dot1, dot2, dot3, dot4, dot5, dot6, dot7, dot8) (\
> ((dot1)? BRLAPI_DOT1: 0) | \
> ((dot2)? BRLAPI_DOT2: 0) | \
> ((dot3)? BRLAPI_DOT3: 0) | \
> ((dot4)? BRLAPI_DOT4: 0) | \
> ((dot5)? BRLAPI_DOT5: 0) | \
> ((dot6)? BRLAPI_DOT6: 0) | \
> ((dot7)? BRLAPI_DOT7: 0) | \
> ((dot8)? BRLAPI_DOT8: 0) \
> )
>
> /** space key */
> #define BRLAPI_DOT_CHORD 0
> /** @} */
>
>
> #ifdef __cplusplus
> }
> #endif /* __cplusplus */
>
> #endif /* BRLAPI_INCLUDED_CONSTANTS */
> /*
> * libbrlapi - A library providing access to braille terminals for
> applications.
> *
> * Copyright (C) 2002-2019 by
> * Samuel Thibault
> * S??bastien Hinderer
> *
> * libbrlapi comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
> *
> * This is free software, placed under the terms of the
> * GNU Lesser General Public License, as published by the Free Software
> * Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any
> * later version. Please see the file LICENSE-LGPL for details.
> *
> * Web Page: http://brltty.app/
> *
> * This software is maintained by Dave Mielke .
> */
>
> /** \file
> */
>
> #ifndef BRLAPI_INCLUDED_KEYCODES
> #define BRLAPI_INCLUDED_KEYCODES
>
> #ifdef __cplusplus
> extern "C" {
> #endif /* __cplusplus */
>
> /** \defgroup brlapi_keycodes Types and Defines for \e BrlAPI Key Codes
> *
> * Key codes are unsigned 64 bit integers. This 64-bit space is split into 3
> * parts:
> *
> * - bits 63-32 (BRLAPI_KEY_FLAGS_MASK), flags: bits 39-32 are standard X
> * modifiers (shift, control, meta, ...). Other flags are used for some
> commands,
> * see documentation of BRLAPI_KEY_FLG_* for their respective uses.
> * - bits 31-29 (BRLAPI_KEY_TYPE_MASK), key type: either BRLAPI_KEY_TYPE_CMD
> for
> * braille commands, or BRLAPI_KEY_TYPE_SYM for standard X keysyms.
> * - bits 28-0 (BRLAPI_KEY_CODE_MASK), key code: for braille commands, see
> * BRLAPI_KEY_CMD_* ; for standard X keysyms, this is the keysym value, see
> * X11 documentation, a complete list is probably available on your system in
> * /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h
> *
> * The third part is itself split into two parts: a command number and a
> command
> * value. The relative sizes of these parts vary according to the key type.
> *
> * For a braille command, bits 28-16 (BRLAPI_KEY_CMD_BLK_MASK) hold the
> braille
> * command number, while bits 15-0 (BRLAPI_KEY_CMD_ARG_MASK) hold the command
> * value.
> *
> * For a X keysym, if it is a unicode keysym (0x1uvwxyz), then the command
Re: [BRLTTY] ALVA Satellite Traveler 544 Question
Hi Mohammad, Yes, there is an entry in the firmware where you can set the firmness of the dots, I can't remmember exectlay where to set is and how. It is half a dozen years ago since I worked with an Alva sattelite. On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 05:08:49PM +0430, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote: > >Hi dear Brian, >I could run the ALVA Satellite using BRLTTY and NVDA. But, the quality >of dots on the display aren't so good. Is there any setting availlable >for dot firmness in BRLTTY? >Thanks in advance > >A A *** >Best Wishes, >A A A A Mohammadreza Rashad >A A sent by Nokia 8 > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] include needed for compile not being found
-I/opt/local/include in the compile options. On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 06:10:45PM -0600, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote: > I am installing brltty on a computer running Mac El Capitan. I am > using the latest brltty version with github. My compile is failing > because unicode/uchar.h can not be found. It is in > /opt/local/include. What do I need to do to get this to be found? > > Thanks much for any help. > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty 6 and Centos 7
Hi Keith, I only have espeak and espeak-devel installed, no espeak-ng-devel. And the same goes for libvoxin-devel, I have NOT installed it. Stil I'm wokring with brltty-6.0 right now. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 01:56:56PM -0600, Keith Wessel wrote: > And I've already hit a stumbling block for the srpm route, too. It wants > libvoxin-devel and espeak-ng-devel, neither of which I'm finding RPMs for in > the repos I have configured. Google didn't turn up much in the way of RPMs, > either. > > Adrian or others, how did you get past these? Or did you just remove these > components from the build spec? > > Thanks, > Keith > > > -Original Message- > From: Keith Wessel On Behalf Of Keith Wessel > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 1:13 PM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: RE: [BRLTTY] Brltty 6 and Centos 7 > > Hi, Adrian, > > Thanks for confirming that I could build the SRPMs on Centos 7. I figured > that would work, and I was keeping this in mind as plan B but thought I > would first ask about the binary RPMs: what distro they were in fact > intended for and if there's a way to get them working on Centos 7. Given the > glibc version, I assumed no but figured it couldn't hurt to ask. > > Keith > > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:04 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty 6 and Centos 7 > > Hi Keith, > gI run CentOS 7.6 myself, I took the source of brltty 6.0 and compiled it > myself without any problems. > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:47:02AM -0600, Keith Wessel wrote: > > Hi, Dave and crew, > > > > I was hoping to build or install Brltty 6 on my Centos 7 system. I grabbed > > the main RPM (brltty main package, binary 64-bit RPM) and did a --test > > --upgrade to see what it might need. It looks like, among other things, it > > wants glibc 2.27. The current Centos 7.5 latest version of glibc is 2.17. > > > > Were these RPMs intended for Fedora? I know the download page mentions > both > > Fedora and Redhat, but I'm wondering if that text is more geared toward > the > > RPM format rather than the specific packages. Or is there a way to get > these > > RPMs to install on Centos 7? > > > > I'm happy to build from source RPM again but would love to skip that step > if > > there's a way on my current OS to use the binary packages. > > > > Thanks, > > Keith > > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between > success and failure." > Edsger W. Dijkstra > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty 6 and Centos 7
Hi Keith, gI run CentOS 7.6 myself, I took the source of brltty 6.0 and compiled it myself without any problems. On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:47:02AM -0600, Keith Wessel wrote: > Hi, Dave and crew, > > I was hoping to build or install Brltty 6 on my Centos 7 system. I grabbed > the main RPM (brltty main package, binary 64-bit RPM) and did a --test > --upgrade to see what it might need. It looks like, among other things, it > wants glibc 2.27. The current Centos 7.5 latest version of glibc is 2.17. > > Were these RPMs intended for Fedora? I know the download page mentions both > Fedora and Redhat, but I'm wondering if that text is more geared toward the > RPM format rather than the specific packages. Or is there a way to get these > RPMs to install on Centos 7? > > I'm happy to build from source RPM again but would love to skip that step if > there's a way on my current OS to use the binary packages. > > Thanks, > Keith > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New trial new chances
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:57:43AM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2019/01/18 at 15:51 +0100] > > >./rgx_libpcre32.c:192:6: error: 'PCRE_ERROR_UNSET' undeclared here (not in a > >function) > > You may need to install pcre's development package. Depending on your > distribution, it may be named pcre-devel, pcre-dev, or something like that. Correct, in CentOS I had that installed but missed pcre2-devel, after installing that one brltty compiles fine. Thanks Adrian > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] New trial new chances
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 10:46:31AM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2019/01/18 at 15:51 +0100] > > >I got the latest version again and the result is different: > > > >./rgx_libpcre32.c:192:6: error: 'PCRE_ERROR_UNSET' undeclared here (not in a > >function) > > Before I look deeper into this one, did you run ./autogen before configuring? Yes I did! > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] New trial new chances
Hi, I got the latest version again and the result is different: cd Programs && make all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/adrian/brltty/latest/Programs' ../getrevid -s -f revision_identifier.h -d unknown ../ gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -m64 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -fPIC -c ./revision.c gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -m64 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -fPIC -c ./rgx_libpcre32.c ./rgx_libpcre32.c:192:6: error: 'PCRE_ERROR_UNSET' undeclared here (not in a function) [-PCRE_ERROR_UNSET] = "required value not set", ^ ./rgx_libpcre32.c:192:4: error: array index in initializer not of integer type [-PCRE_ERROR_UNSET] = "required value not set", ^ ./rgx_libpcre32.c:192:4: error: (near initialization for 'rgxNegativeErrors') make[1]: *** [Makefile:710: rgx_libpcre32.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/adrian/brltty/latest/Programs' make: *** [Makefile:48: all] Error 2 -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Compilation problem on CentOS
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 08:46:10AM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2019/01/18 at 12:35 +0100] > > >Unfortunately there is no newer version available within CentOOS. > > When I say there's a new version, I mean in the development stream. In other > words, brltty's master branch on github. That's where I took this version from this afternoon. > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Compilation problem on CentOS
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 06:18:14AM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote: > [quoted lines by Adrian van Bloois on 2019/01/18 at 11:33 +0100] > > >I downloaded the latest version of brltty and try to compile it. > >This is what I got: > > > >./unicode.c: In function 'isEmojiCharacter': > >./unicode.c:177:36: error: 'UCHAR_EMOJI' undeclared (first use in this > >function) > > if (hasBinaryProperty(character, UCHAR_EMOJI)) return 1; > >^ > > You must have an older version of icu and UCHAR_EMOJI must be new. Since that > code didn't actually end up being used, I just removed it. Please update and > try again. Unfortunately there is no newer version available within CentOOS. THanks > > -- > I believe the Bible to be the very Word of God: http://Mielke.cc/bible/ > Dave Mielke| 2213 Fox Crescent | WebHome: http://Mielke.cc/ > EMail: d...@mielke.cc | Ottawa, Ontario | Twitter: @Dave_Mielke > Phone: +1 613 726 0014 | Canada K2A 1H7 | > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] Compilation problem on CentOS
Hi, I downloaded the latest version of brltty and try to compile it. This is what I got: cd Programs && make all make[1]: Entering directory '/home/adrian/brltty/latest/Programs' gcc -I. -I. -I./../Programs -I../Programs -I../Headers -I./.. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_GNU_SOURCE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -m64 -std=gnu99 -Wall -Werror=format-security -fPIC -c ./unicode.c ./unicode.c: In function 'isEmojiCharacter': ./unicode.c:177:36: error: 'UCHAR_EMOJI' undeclared (first use in this function) if (hasBinaryProperty(character, UCHAR_EMOJI)) return 1; ^ ./unicode.c:177:36: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in make[1]: *** [Makefile:344: unicode.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/adrian/brltty/latest/Programs' make: *** [Makefile:48: all] Error 2 -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Subtitles, mplayer, and BRLTTY
On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 11:23:58AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Adrian van Bloois, le mar. 08 janv. 2019 11:13:54 +0100, a ecrit: > > Try to run: > > mplayer > > http://swr-swr2-live.cast.addradio.de/swr/swr2/live/mp3/256/stream.mp3 > > > > It gives you a German radio station with lots of announcements usually. > > He meant subtitles of a movie, not the titles of a radio station. OK, I don't know about that. > > Now, asking mplayer maintainers for an option to print the subtitles in > textmode would make sense and be accessible from braille easily. > > Samuel > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Subtitles, mplayer, and BRLTTY
Try to run: mplayer http://swr-swr2-live.cast.addradio.de/swr/swr2/live/mp3/256/stream.mp3 It gives you a German radio station with lots of announcements usually. On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 02:45:29AM -0600, Rob wrote: > Samuel Thibault wrote: > > How do you run it? Under X? In the console? With no particular option? > > When I type > mplayer -vo null sometitle.mkv > I don't see a line of text there, even though I know there are subtitles. > What else needs to be passed on the command line? > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] display braille unicode TTY
Thanks, I think I'll be able to get this right. Thanks afain. Adrian On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 10:22:59AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Adrian van Bloois, le jeu. 17 mai 2018 10:03:42 +0200, a ecrit: > > Thanks everybody, I think this could work, I can find the Lat... and dthe > > vconsole. But, not the brl-16x8.psf, where can I find that? > > This is in the console-braille package: > > http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/console-braille/console-braille_1.7.tar.gz > > Samuel > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure." Edsger W. Dijkstra ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] display braille unicode TTY
Thanks everybody, I think this could work, I can find the Lat... and dthe
vconsole. But, not the brl-16x8.psf, where can I find that?
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 06:53:31PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2018, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>
> > Adrian van Bloois, le mer. 16 mai 2018 22:02:25 +0200, a ecrit:
> > > Is there something equivalent for CentOS/Red Hat?
> > > The package involved is not in my repo's, and the file in /etc/default is
> > > lacking as well.
> > > I find a lot of font in /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts, but lo Lat15*, Just
> > > Lat{0-9}...
> >
> > You can use a Latsomething file instead. As for the font configuration
> > on CentOS/RedHat, I don't know it works.
>
> It is located in /etc/vconsole.conf.
>
> For example:
>
> FONT=LatArCyrHeb-08.psfu
> KEYMAP=us
>
>
> Nicolas
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Re: [BRLTTY] display braille unicode TTY
On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:48:30PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Adrian van Bloois, le mer. 16 mai 2018 22:02:25 +0200, a ecrit:
> > Is there something equivalent for CentOS/Red Hat?
> > The package involved is not in my repo's, and the file in /etc/default is
> > lacking as well.
> > I find a lot of font in /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts, but lo Lat15*, Just
> > Lat{0-9}...
>
> You can use a Latsomething file instead. As for the font configuration
> on CentOS/RedHat, I don't know it works.
THank you, I'll look around, maybe someone else can help.
>
> Samuel
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