Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Keith Tuxhorn]

The above response was sent 95% with a smile on my face, and 5% wondering
about Greenfield's desires... Just to clarify.
Keith


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Keith Tuxhorn <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If Greenfield wants to glorify themselves with a title, shouldn't they be
> the ones to come up with something? I'm really busy trying to make my own
> local dance a better one...
>
> And, Mr. Isaacs, shouldn't you be busy publishing a book of your
> dances?... Doing that would bring much joy to contra communities around the
> world, not just to one!
>
> Keith Tuxhorn
> Austin, TX
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com>wrote:
>
>> Aha!  So, there are two "Becket" formations in a double contra.
>>
>> One is where a line of four travels together in two lines and the other
>> is where there are four lines, and couples travel together in parallel
>> lines, but do things together somewhere in the dance...
>>
>> ~erik hoffman
>> oakland, ca
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/2013 11:09 PM, Michael Fuerst wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eric:
>>>
>>> Al Olson's dances  have a different formation from Major Hey.In Al's
>>> dances, four face four across the set and each time through the dance,
>>>  groups of four advance left  to face a new group of four
>>>
>>> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801
>>> 217-239-5844
>>>
>>> __**__
>>>   From: Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com>
>>> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
>>>
>>> I made up a dance years ago, called Major Hey, a Becket 4-face-4. Never
>>> knew we were nicknaming that "greenfield position."  Now, if someone
>>> hadn't mentioned that Al Olson also played around with that idea, I'd
>>> say, we need a West Coast name for that formation.  And since Major Hey
>>> came out of a dance I did with George Marshall, at BACDS' Spring
>>> Weekend, I'd suggest is should be called "Monte Toyon Formation."  But,
>>> what the heck, I'm gonna just keep calling it a Becket Double Contra...
>>>
>>> Major Hey
>>> Becket Double Contra
>>> Note Directions:
>>>   Direction of Progression
>>>   Direction of "original wall"
>>>
>>> A1   In fours, circle left 3/4, pass through up & down in Direction of
>>> Progression
>>>   With neighbor you meet, swing.  End facing partner (four long
>>> lines)
>>> A2   Those lines go forward & back
>>>   Men allemande left 1-1/2 to make a wave of 8 across
>>> (W-M-M-W-W-M-M-W)
>>> B1Rory O'More Balances, towards partner,
>>> B2Half a hey for eight, start passing partners right shoulder
>>> C1Partner balance & swing
>>>
>>> And, yes, another 40-bar dance
>>>
>>> ~erik hoffman
>>>   oakland, ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Luke Donforth wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
>>>> around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
>>>> (And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green <bobgr...@swbell.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have
>>>>> danced
>>>>> one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this
>>>>> weekend.
>>>>> The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up
>>>>> proper
>>>>> and turn the group of four one place to the left.
>>>>> Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
>>>>> describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using
>>>>> this
>>>>> also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
>>>>> A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
>>>>>Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st
>>>>> corners
>>>>> in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
&

Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Keith Tuxhorn]

If Greenfield wants to glorify themselves with a title, shouldn't they be
the ones to come up with something? I'm really busy trying to make my own
local dance a better one...

And, Mr. Isaacs, shouldn't you be busy publishing a book of your dances?...
Doing that would bring much joy to contra communities around the world, not
just to one!

Keith Tuxhorn
Austin, TX


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com> wrote:

> Aha!  So, there are two "Becket" formations in a double contra.
>
> One is where a line of four travels together in two lines and the other is
> where there are four lines, and couples travel together in parallel lines,
> but do things together somewhere in the dance...
>
> ~erik hoffman
> oakland, ca
>
>
> On 5/19/2013 11:09 PM, Michael Fuerst wrote:
>
>> Hello Eric:
>>
>> Al Olson's dances  have a different formation from Major Hey.In Al's
>> dances, four face four across the set and each time through the dance,
>>  groups of four advance left  to face a new group of four
>>
>> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801
>> 217-239-5844
>>
>> __**__
>>   From: Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com>
>> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
>>
>> I made up a dance years ago, called Major Hey, a Becket 4-face-4. Never
>> knew we were nicknaming that "greenfield position."  Now, if someone
>> hadn't mentioned that Al Olson also played around with that idea, I'd
>> say, we need a West Coast name for that formation.  And since Major Hey
>> came out of a dance I did with George Marshall, at BACDS' Spring
>> Weekend, I'd suggest is should be called "Monte Toyon Formation."  But,
>> what the heck, I'm gonna just keep calling it a Becket Double Contra...
>>
>> Major Hey
>> Becket Double Contra
>> Note Directions:
>>   Direction of Progression
>>   Direction of "original wall"
>>
>> A1   In fours, circle left 3/4, pass through up & down in Direction of
>> Progression
>>   With neighbor you meet, swing.  End facing partner (four long
>> lines)
>> A2   Those lines go forward & back
>>   Men allemande left 1-1/2 to make a wave of 8 across
>> (W-M-M-W-W-M-M-W)
>> B1Rory O'More Balances, towards partner,
>> B2Half a hey for eight, start passing partners right shoulder
>> C1Partner balance & swing
>>
>> And, yes, another 40-bar dance
>>
>> ~erik hoffman
>>   oakland, ca
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Luke Donforth wrote:
>>
>>> The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
>>> around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
>>> (And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green <bobgr...@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
>>>> one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this
>>>> weekend.
>>>> The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up
>>>> proper
>>>> and turn the group of four one place to the left.
>>>> Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
>>>> describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
>>>> also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.
>>>>
>>>> Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
>>>> A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
>>>>Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st
>>>> corners
>>>> in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
>>>> A2 Balance right and left, slide right
>>>> Partner swing
>>>> B1 Slide left circle left 3
>>>> Neighbor swing
>>>> B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
>>>> Long line forward and back
>>>> Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You
>>>>
>>>> http://dancevideos.childgrove.**org/contra/contra-modern/443-**
>>>> mission-men<http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob

Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Erik Hoffman]

Aha!  So, there are two "Becket" formations in a double contra.

One is where a line of four travels together in two lines and the other 
is where there are four lines, and couples travel together in parallel 
lines, but do things together somewhere in the dance...


~erik hoffman
oakland, ca

On 5/19/2013 11:09 PM, Michael Fuerst wrote:

Hello Eric:

Al Olson's dances  have a different formation from Major Hey.In Al's 
dances, four face four across the set and each time through the dance,  groups 
of four advance left  to face a new group of four

Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844


  From: Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
  


I made up a dance years ago, called Major Hey, a Becket 4-face-4. Never
knew we were nicknaming that "greenfield position."  Now, if someone
hadn't mentioned that Al Olson also played around with that idea, I'd
say, we need a West Coast name for that formation.  And since Major Hey
came out of a dance I did with George Marshall, at BACDS' Spring
Weekend, I'd suggest is should be called "Monte Toyon Formation."  But,
what the heck, I'm gonna just keep calling it a Becket Double Contra...

Major Hey
Becket Double Contra
Note Directions:
  Direction of Progression
  Direction of "original wall"

A1   In fours, circle left 3/4, pass through up & down in Direction of
Progression
  With neighbor you meet, swing.  End facing partner (four long
lines)
A2   Those lines go forward & back
  Men allemande left 1-1/2 to make a wave of 8 across
(W-M-M-W-W-M-M-W)
B1Rory O'More Balances, towards partner,
B2Half a hey for eight, start passing partners right shoulder
C1Partner balance & swing

And, yes, another 40-bar dance

~erik hoffman
  oakland, ca



On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Luke Donforth wrote:

The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
(And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green <bobgr...@swbell.net> wrote:


O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
and turn the group of four one place to the left.
Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.

Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
   Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
A2 Balance right and left, slide right
Partner swing
B1 Slide left circle left 3
Neighbor swing
B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
Long line forward and back
Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacs...@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi All:



The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -



Bob





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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[P E]

"Three couples in a circle" aptly describes it, thank-you, John. I guess I 
didn't think of it that way since it is more of a longways (shortways) set than 
a circle, but it also has circle-type moves.

And to Andrea- the moves are:

A1  lines forward and back (1's meet each other, 2's meet 3's)
   dosido across (1's with partner, 2's and 3's with opposite-sex 
"neighbor")
B1  top 4 individuals LH star
   bottom 4 (2's & 3's) RH star
A2 shadow seesaw
  partner dosido  
B2  2's allemande left on (slightly) left diagonal
   3's allemande right on (slightly) right diagonal
CRight & left grand (ccw, starting RH to partner) halfway around
   partner promenade the ring to progress
B3  partner balance and swing

Yes, it's a crooked dance, written specifically for it's own tune. And 
complex-- not for the inexperienced by any means.

Polly

> From: i...@contrafusion.co.uk
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 09:54:33 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
> 
> Polly said, "Here is a formation I used only once, I don't know if it
> has a name... anyone familiar with it? Triplet: From proper line up:
> Ones cross over improper, (face down or across as needed). Twos cross
> over improper. Twos and Threes circle right 1/4 to Becket."
> 
> Umm... Isn't that just three couples in a circle?  There are countless
> dances in that formation.
> 
> A nice contra in that formation is Alamo Triad by Bob Marr (it is in
> "Give-and-Take").  Circles of three couples all the way down the hall,
> with all the ones facing down; ones progress down the hall; twos and
> threes progress up the hall.  Just make sure everyone is listening when
> you tell them that when twos and threes reach the top they have to
> decide who will be the next ones - if they both try to be new ones at
> the same time it gets messy :-)
> 
> Happy dancing,
> John
> 
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> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Michael Fuerst]

Hello Eric:

Al Olson's dances  have a different formation from Major Hey.    In Al's 
dances, four face four across the set and each time through the dance,  groups 
of four advance left  to face a new group of four

Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844


 From: Erik Hoffman <e...@erikhoffman.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
 

I made up a dance years ago, called Major Hey, a Becket 4-face-4. Never 
knew we were nicknaming that "greenfield position."  Now, if someone 
hadn't mentioned that Al Olson also played around with that idea, I'd 
say, we need a West Coast name for that formation.  And since Major Hey 
came out of a dance I did with George Marshall, at BACDS' Spring 
Weekend, I'd suggest is should be called "Monte Toyon Formation."  But, 
what the heck, I'm gonna just keep calling it a Becket Double Contra...

Major Hey
Becket Double Contra
Note Directions:
     Direction of Progression
     Direction of "original wall"

A1   In fours, circle left 3/4, pass through up & down in Direction of 
Progression
         With neighbor you meet, swing.  End facing partner (four long 
lines)
A2   Those lines go forward & back
         Men allemande left 1-1/2 to make a wave of 8 across 
(W-M-M-W-W-M-M-W)
B1    Rory O'More Balances, towards partner,
B2    Half a hey for eight, start passing partners right shoulder
C1    Partner balance & swing

And, yes, another 40-bar dance

~erik hoffman
     oakland, ca



On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Luke Donforth wrote:
> The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
> around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
> (And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green <bobgr...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
>> one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
>> The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
>> and turn the group of four one place to the left.
>> Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
>> describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
>> also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.
>>
>> Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
>> A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
>>      Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
>> in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
>> A2 Balance right and left, slide right
>>       Partner swing
>> B1 Slide left circle left 3
>>       Neighbor swing
>> B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
>>       Long line forward and back
>> Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You
>>
>> http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
>>> enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
>>> details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Erik Hoffman]

I made up a dance years ago, called Major Hey, a Becket 4-face-4. Never 
knew we were nicknaming that "greenfield position."  Now, if someone 
hadn't mentioned that Al Olson also played around with that idea, I'd 
say, we need a West Coast name for that formation.  And since Major Hey 
came out of a dance I did with George Marshall, at BACDS' Spring 
Weekend, I'd suggest is should be called "Monte Toyon Formation."  But, 
what the heck, I'm gonna just keep calling it a Becket Double Contra...


Major Hey
Becket Double Contra
Note Directions:
Direction of Progression
Direction of "original wall"

A1   In fours, circle left 3/4, pass through up & down in Direction of 
Progression
With neighbor you meet, swing.  End facing partner (four long 
lines)

A2   Those lines go forward & back
Men allemande left 1-1/2 to make a wave of 8 across 
(W-M-M-W-W-M-M-W)

B1Rory O'More Balances, towards partner,
B2Half a hey for eight, start passing partners right shoulder
C1Partner balance & swing

And, yes, another 40-bar dance

~erik hoffman
oakland, ca



On 5/16/2013 10:04 AM, Luke Donforth wrote:

The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
(And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green  wrote:


O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
and turn the group of four one place to the left.
Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.

Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
 Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
A2 Balance right and left, slide right
  Partner swing
B1 Slide left circle left 3
  Neighbor swing
B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
  Long line forward and back
Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs  wrote:


Hi All:



The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -



Bob





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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[John Sweeney]

Polly said, "Here is a formation I used only once, I don't know if it
has a name... anyone familiar with it? Triplet: From proper line up:
Ones cross over improper, (face down or across as needed). Twos cross
over improper. Twos and Threes circle right 1/4 to Becket."

Umm... Isn't that just three couples in a circle?  There are countless
dances in that formation.

A nice contra in that formation is Alamo Triad by Bob Marr (it is in
"Give-and-Take").  Circles of three couples all the way down the hall,
with all the ones facing down; ones progress down the hall; twos and
threes progress up the hall.  Just make sure everyone is listening when
you tell them that when twos and threes reach the top they have to
decide who will be the next ones - if they both try to be new ones at
the same time it gets messy :-)

Happy dancing,
John

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http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent

Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Andrea Nettleton]

How does the dance go?
Andrea

Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask

On May 18, 2013, at 3:45 PM, P E  wrote:

> To the forum:  Here is a formation I used only once, I don't know if it has a 
> name... anyone familiar with it???
> 
> Triplet-  From proper line up: First couple are "ones", second couple are 
> "twos" third couple are "threes". 
> Ones cross over improper, (face down or across as needed). Twos cross over 
> improper.
> Twos and Threes circle right 1/4 to becket.
> 
> The purpose was to make a small longways-type set in which each couple (with 
> lady on the right) could progress counterclockwise. (Ones become twos, twos 
> become threes, threes become ones.) 
> 
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[P E]

 To the forum:  Here is a formation I used only once, I don't know if it has a 
name... anyone familiar with it???

Triplet-  From proper line up: First couple are "ones", second couple are 
"twos" third couple are "threes". 
Ones cross over improper, (face down or across as needed). Twos cross over 
improper.
Twos and Threes circle right 1/4 to becket.

The purpose was to make a small longways-type set in which each couple (with 
lady on the right) could progress counterclockwise. (Ones become twos, twos 
become threes, threes become ones.) 

Polly

  

Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Ron Blechner]

Missionary Men immediately circles left 3/4 to undo the formation. Becket
dances are often guilty of this, but have the reasoning of being able to
end a dance with a partner swing. Improper was a modification to Proper
because, I understand, it greatly facilitates dances without an inactive
couple. So... what does this new formation accomplish?

The dance Proper Becket omits the immediate circle, but the B2 seems
designed simply to get people into that formation; unlike Becket, it does
not serve an independent purpose. Either dance could be shifted 16 measures
and be Becket, or 24 measures and be improper.

I really like the concept of a Proper Becket formation, but I wonder if we
couldn't get to the root of *why* this formation is unique, rather than a
transitionary position. Some dances start in long or short wavy lines, but
we don't necessarily identify them as new formations, for I think the same
reason.

So in the case of Proper Becket, if there's a neighbor swing or partner
swing, it can be considered a Becket or improper dance. A dance would need
a compelling reason to force that new formation. Since the idea of a
no-partner-swing dance is very uncommon, I suggest that the dance needs to
accomplish something new, rather than be a formation for the sake of
formation.

So, the answer comes in the same reason we have Becket: to end a dance with
a particular swing. In this case, I'd suggest a same gender swing, even
better, where the dance can alternate between gents swing and ladies swing.
Then this needs to precede a move for gents and ladies to be facing
partners up and down (else, why not just improper?).

How about this, as a work in progress:
A1: Down the hall, gents in the center, partners next to them. Couple on
left turns alone, couple on right turns as a couple.
Up the hall, bend line
A2: circle L 1/2, slide L to new Ns
Ladies Chain
B1: 1s/2s swing in the center, end facing up to new new Ns
B2: Circle L 3/4
gents/ladies swing in the center, end facing partners

What I like is that the same gender swing is common in Greenfield from lots
of people dancing both roles. The dance feels both classic in its moves and
modern. The dance easily swaps actives each time. ... and it satisfies my
desire to make the formation meaningful.

Thoughts?

In dance,
Ron Blechner

Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Michael Fuerst]

Bob:
Shouldn't the St Louis instead hold such a contest to discover the Childgrove 
formation ??
 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
 

O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
and turn the group of four one place to the left.
Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.

Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
    Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
A2 Balance right and left, slide right
     Partner swing
B1 Slide left circle left 3
     Neighbor swing
B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
     Long line forward and back
Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs <isaacs...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Luke Donforth]

The Proper Becket formation, and the nickname for it, have been kicking
around for years. Does that really count as a new formation for contra?
(And would Greenfield really want the nickname associated with it?)


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Bob Green  wrote:

> O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
> one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
> The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
> and turn the group of four one place to the left.
> Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
> describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
> also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.
>
> Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
> A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
> Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
> in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
> A2 Balance right and left, slide right
>  Partner swing
> B1 Slide left circle left 3
>  Neighbor swing
> B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
>  Long line forward and back
> Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You
>
> http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs  wrote:
>
> > Hi All:
> >
> >
> >
> > The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
> > enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
> > details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Bob Green]

O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
and turn the group of four one place to the left.
Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.

Proper Becket (proposed "Greenfield formation)
A1 1st corners Chain with a courtesy turn
Mad robin (1st corners in 1st) then step to an ocean wave (1st corners
in center join right, left to same sex neighbor)
A2 Balance right and left, slide right
 Partner swing
B1 Slide left circle left 3
 Neighbor swing
B2 Ladies chain, gent 1 roll your partner away
 Long line forward and back
Fairly similar to May the 5th Be With You

http://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/443-mission-men


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs  wrote:

> Hi All:
>
>
>
> The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
> enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
> details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Bob Green]

O.K. , here is an entry, with two dances by Jim Hemphill. We have danced
one of them, the other is by concept only, but will be vetted this weekend.
The formation might be described as "proper becket" - if you line up proper
and turn the group of four one place to the left.
Jim's first dance, nicknamed*  Missionary Men*, suggests another way to
describe this formation. I had written an English style dance using this
also, but Jim's dances are vastly superior I think.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bob Isaacs  wrote:

> Hi All:
>
>
>
> The Friends of the Guiding Star Grange in Greenfield, MA invite you to
> enter The Greenfield Formation Contest - please see the attached for
> details.  We look forward to seeing what you come up with -
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Michael Fuerst]

Well, Al Olson has written several dances, with four facing four,  where the 
groups of four progress sideways as in Becket dances.
In some of these dances, the two couples switch place every time through the 
dance.
 
Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844




 From: Mark Jones <markjo...@busybusy.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
 

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Liz and Bill
<staf...@ext.canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
>      A nice challenge! Please clarify the following re " a contra formation." 
>Is  4 facing 4 a contra formation? Are grid squares a contra formation?
>
> Cheers, Bill

Four Facing Four -
   Yes, sometimes calle Mescalenza
   see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_dance_form#In_less_common_formations

Grid Squares -
   Yes, in the sense that this hybrid formation can be danced to
contra-dance moves and calls and  understood by experienced dancers
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Linda Leslie]

I've usually seen the spelling as "Mescolanza".
Linda

On May 15, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Mark Jones wrote:


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Liz and Bill
 wrote:

Hi Bob,

A nice challenge! Please clarify the following re " a contra  
formation." Is  4 facing 4 a contra formation? Are grid squares a  
contra formation?


Cheers, Bill


Four Facing Four -
  Yes, sometimes calle Mescalenza
  see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_dance_form#In_less_common_formations

Grid Squares -
  Yes, in the sense that this hybrid formation can be danced to
contra-dance moves and calls and  understood by experienced dancers
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Bob Isaacs]

Hi Bill:
 
Sure, something like either is fine as long as it's new - 
 
Bob
 

> From: staf...@ext.canterbury.ac.nz
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:01:07 -0400
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> CC: eirolav...@gmail.com; call...@sharedweight.net
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> A nice challenge! Please clarify the following re " a contra formation." Is 4 
> facing 4 a contra formation? Are grid squares a contra formation?
> 
> Cheers, Bill
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Re: [Callers] Greenfield Formation

[Mark Jones]

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Liz and Bill
 wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
>  A nice challenge! Please clarify the following re " a contra formation." 
> Is  4 facing 4 a contra formation? Are grid squares a contra formation?
>
> Cheers, Bill

Four Facing Four -
   Yes, sometimes calle Mescalenza
   see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra_dance_form#In_less_common_formations

Grid Squares -
   Yes, in the sense that this hybrid formation can be danced to
contra-dance moves and calls and  understood by experienced dancers