Re: [caret-users] About Monkey to Human Deformation

2007-03-14 Thread Reza Rajimehr
Dear David,

In the Apply Deformation Map dialog box, I specified the following items:

1) Deformation Map File: the 23-LDMK deform_map file
2) File Type: Metric
3) Flat Max Edge Length: 10.00
4) Metric Deformation: Nearest Node (not sure which one is better?)
5) Smooth One Iteration (Except Flat)

The other buttons were not clickable (the dialog box does not allow me to
use them).

When I click the Apply button, I immediately receive the following error
message:

Deform Error
Is deformation map file valid? You must select a data file for
deformation. You must select the output name for the deformed file.

I tried to apply deformation map from two different .spec files:

1) Macaque F99 atlas directory, which has deformed metric files (from
individual macaque to F99). I added/appended the .deform_map file to this
.spec file before applying deformation.

2) COMPARE_MACAQUE_HUMAN directory (as a part of CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT06
directory). I added/appended my metric files to this .spec file before
applying deformation.

In both cases, I got the same error.


Thanks for your helpful comments/suggestions,

Reza


 Reza,

 On Mar 10, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Reza Rajimehr wrote:

 Dear caret-users,

 David Van Essen suggested me to use the following .deform_map file for
 deformation of macaque F99 to Human PALS:

 RegF99toPALS_23-LDMK-VE_Macaque.F99UA1.RIGHT.Register-with-PALS_23-
 LDMK-VE.73730.spec.deform_map

 Once you have a deform_map file, you can use it to register data
 sets  from monkey to human WITHOUT re-running a registration.  This
 is done using the Surface: Deformation: Apply Deformation Map
 option.  If you want to register paint files, metric files, and most
 other files, you don't need anything other than the deform_map file
 to get the job done, and the dialog window is fairly self-
 explanatory.  If you want to register a border projection file or a
 coordinate file, then you need additional coordinate and topology
 files that are available as part of the Caret Sept_06 tutorial dataset:
 http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?
 archive_id=6595051archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec

 The only reason to actually re-run an interspecies registration is IF
 you don't like the particular set of landmarks used and you want to
 try your own.  If so, you should start with borderproj files also in:
 http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do?
 archive_id=6595051archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec
 and make your additions and subtractions from there.

 See Part 4 of the latest Caret tutorial for more details on monkey-
 human comparisons.
 http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/directory.do?
 id=6585200dir_name=CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT-06


 I specified this as my .deform_map file in the Spherical Parameters
 tab in
 the Spherical Surface Deformation dialog box. My question is what I
 should
 specify as .borderproj file. I have a borderproj file in my F99
 directory
 (that I used for the registration of individual macaque to F99). I
 also
 have a borderproj file in my PALS directory (that I used for the
 registration of individual human to PALS). Should I use these
 borderproj
 files in the Individual and Atlas tabs in the Spherical Surface
 Deformation dialog box? Or there are other files that I should use?

 I also assume that the macaque F99 .spec file should be used in the
 Individual tab, and the human PALS .spec file should be used in the
 Atlas
 tab.

 See above.  These steps should not be necessary for your purposes.

 I hope this helps.

 David


 Thanks for your help,
 Reza

 
 Reza Rajimehr, MD

 NMR Athinoula A. Martinos Center
 Department of Radiology
 Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH)
 Building 149, 13th St.
 Charlestown, MA 02129

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NMR Athinoula A. Martinos Center
Department of Radiology
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH)
Building 149, 13th St.
Charlestown, MA 02129

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[caret-users] About Monkey to Human Deformation

2007-03-10 Thread Reza Rajimehr
Dear caret-users,

David Van Essen suggested me to use the following .deform_map file for
deformation of macaque F99 to Human PALS:

RegF99toPALS_23-LDMK-VE_Macaque.F99UA1.RIGHT.Register-with-PALS_23-
LDMK-VE.73730.spec.deform_map

I specified this as my .deform_map file in the Spherical Parameters tab in
the Spherical Surface Deformation dialog box. My question is what I should
specify as .borderproj file. I have a borderproj file in my F99 directory
(that I used for the registration of individual macaque to F99). I also
have a borderproj file in my PALS directory (that I used for the
registration of individual human to PALS). Should I use these borderproj
files in the Individual and Atlas tabs in the Spherical Surface
Deformation dialog box? Or there are other files that I should use?

I also assume that the macaque F99 .spec file should be used in the
Individual tab, and the human PALS .spec file should be used in the Atlas
tab.

Thanks for your help,
Reza


Reza Rajimehr, MD

NMR Athinoula A. Martinos Center
Department of Radiology
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH)
Building 149, 13th St.
Charlestown, MA 02129

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [caret-users] About Monkey to Human Deformation

2007-03-10 Thread David Vanessen

Reza,

On Mar 10, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Reza Rajimehr wrote:


Dear caret-users,

David Van Essen suggested me to use the following .deform_map file for
deformation of macaque F99 to Human PALS:

RegF99toPALS_23-LDMK-VE_Macaque.F99UA1.RIGHT.Register-with-PALS_23-
LDMK-VE.73730.spec.deform_map


Once you have a deform_map file, you can use it to register data  
sets  from monkey to human WITHOUT re-running a registration.  This  
is done using the Surface: Deformation: Apply Deformation Map  
option.  If you want to register paint files, metric files, and most  
other files, you don't need anything other than the deform_map file  
to get the job done, and the dialog window is fairly self- 
explanatory.  If you want to register a border projection file or a  
coordinate file, then you need additional coordinate and topology  
files that are available as part of the Caret Sept_06 tutorial dataset:
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do? 
archive_id=6595051archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec


The only reason to actually re-run an interspecies registration is IF  
you don't like the particular set of landmarks used and you want to  
try your own.  If so, you should start with borderproj files also in:
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/archivelist.do? 
archive_id=6595051archive_name=COMPARE_PALS_MacaqueF99.73730.spec

and make your additions and subtractions from there.

See Part 4 of the latest Caret tutorial for more details on monkey- 
human comparisons.
http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/directory.do? 
id=6585200dir_name=CARET_TUTORIAL_SEPT-06




I specified this as my .deform_map file in the Spherical Parameters  
tab in
the Spherical Surface Deformation dialog box. My question is what I  
should
specify as .borderproj file. I have a borderproj file in my F99  
directory
(that I used for the registration of individual macaque to F99). I  
also

have a borderproj file in my PALS directory (that I used for the
registration of individual human to PALS). Should I use these  
borderproj

files in the Individual and Atlas tabs in the Spherical Surface
Deformation dialog box? Or there are other files that I should use?

I also assume that the macaque F99 .spec file should be used in the
Individual tab, and the human PALS .spec file should be used in the  
Atlas

tab.


See above.  These steps should not be necessary for your purposes.

I hope this helps.

David



Thanks for your help,
Reza


Reza Rajimehr, MD

NMR Athinoula A. Martinos Center
Department of Radiology
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH)
Building 149, 13th St.
Charlestown, MA 02129

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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