[cayugabirds-l] Acadian Flycatcher still
This morning at 6:30 it was just 50 degrees F. in Michigan Hollow, but an Acadian Flycatcher was still singing in the usual spot (42.29919N 76.48335W). The road just there is about 16' above the stream, so the bird is often below you. -Geo Kloppel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Destructiveness of chipmunks
Talking about Chjpmunks, recently, I also had similar experience with the Robins, Robins had fledglings in my yard and the chipmunk was trying to go about its business, but the robin gave it a hard time. I am glad it did. Also, recently I had a field trip to Six Miles Creek walk and found many species of birds missing. Especially Wood Thrushes, ovenbirds and Veery (in numbers) as compared to the previous years. I feel the population has reduced to a great extent. But we did see lots and lots of Chipmunks running around everywhere. So I was wondering if those were the reasons for reduced bird populations:-( Meena PS: My yard is full of visiting fledglings. Yesterday I had a Phoebe, Chickadee and Tufted Titmouse families visiting. They were noisy, chickadee family looked so cute, five of them trying to harass their parents! Plus, Blue Jays also came with their young when others dispersed. Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 42.429007,-76.47111 http://haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ From: bounce-116244366-3493...@list.cornell.edu bounce-116244366-3493...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of John and Fritzie Blizzard job121...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 8:49 PM To: Melissa Groo; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Destructiveness of chipmunks Somewhere, a few yrs. back, I read that chipmunks are more destructive to birds than are cats. Really, where can the exact proof be of such statistics? Both are exceedingly destructive. Add in red gray squirrels, racoons, skunks, possums, snakes turtles as well as other birds. Other sections of the country probably have other types of nest raiders. Right here, I have house sparrows amongst other animals, including tame feral cats. We have a home-made bird trap for our boxes but while it works, many birders don't have boxes that can easily be opened, if all, in order to catch the invader in a plastic bag or to clean debris from the boxes. Tree swallows make a horrendous mess in their boxes. Unfortunately, once an invader finds a nest, it often will return until its prey is all destroyed. Yes, sparrows catch insects, too, but I dare say, the male sparrow here has killed at least 30 nestlings mothers, to say nothing of the number of blue bird tree swallow eggs destroyed. I consider the insects they catch as small potatoes compared to the many good birds lost the insects they their offspring would have destroyed. This male sparrow doesn't even appear to have a mate! In late April, nearly every nest box had a male sparrow sitting in a hole to keep bluebirds tree swallows away. Two wks. ago, I put 3 plastic bird-size eggs in a swallow/bluebird box. Within 20 min., the male sparrow had carried 2 of them20' away dropped them. I replaced the plastic eggs with 4 marbles. The sparrow couldn't pick them up or peck them open, so he then repeatedly tried to cover them with the grass nesting material I had put in the box as starter nests. The next day I watched as the male, after covering the marbles, proceeded to take pieces of grass away, apparently trying to empty the box of the nesting material ... the old idea,if I can't have it, neither can anyone else. Melissa, many of these visuals which you, Meena, Diana Whiting, John Sue Gregoire many others find, are intensely educational enlightening both to you to others with whom you share your sightings. We're all gaining in this educational process thank you for the part you play. FritzieGas in Union Springs is $3.52.9. On 6/14/2014 5:17 PM, Melissa Groo wrote: A pair of Robins were frantically alarm-calling and repeatedly flying at a chipmunk sitting on a branch near their nest, and in the midst of eating one of their nestlings. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Red-shouldered Hawk flyover - Lansing
A seemingly out-of-place adult RED-SHOULDERED HAWK just flew over our patio off Warren Rd. in Lansing, heading north in the direction of the Bomax Rd. fields. I'm not too up to date on this species's breeding status in the basin, but I can't recall any nearby nesting sites. -Scott -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] still hearing Old Sam Peabody
We've been hearing White-throated Sparrow song since sometime in May when they were migrating through. We are still hearing this song, and it's always coming from the same area, a thicket along Cascadilla Creek in Ellis Hollow. I assume there's a nesting pair. How unusual is it for White-throated Sparrows to nest in this area? David Ruppert -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] still hearing Old Sam Peabody
Uncommon, and typically in the higher forested areas, such as Hammond Hill, Summer Hill, Shindagin Hollow. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 01:40 PM, David Ruppert d...@cornell.edu wrote: We’ve been hearing White-throated Sparrow song since sometime in May when they were migrating through. We are still hearing this song, and it’s always coming from the same area, a thicket along Cascadilla Creek in Ellis Hollow. I assume there’s a nesting pair. How unusual is it for White-throated Sparrows to nest in this area? David Ruppert -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a — Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Newtown Battlefield SP
During a short visit to the Newtown Battlefield State Park yesterday for unrelated purposes, I noticed some birds in the vicinity of the Sullivan Monument, including Brown Thrasher, Great-crested Flycatcher, and Yellow-throated Vireo. -Geo Kloppel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
I am NOT an authority on raptors, but that has never stopped me from commenting before, so here's my guess: I think the first blurry photo looks like a dark type of Red-tailed Hawk more typically found out west. I think the second and third photos are of a different bird with a feather missing from primaries on each side. The only species of Buteo around here with such a wide bold white stripe in the tail is Broad-winged Hawk, which also shows a black outline to the ends of the flight feathers on the entire wing, as seen in the third photo. However, dark-type Broad-winged Hawks are rare, and the wing shape looks too long and rounded to me, so I'm not at all confident. I hope someone who really knows what they are talking about has a look at your photos and sets me straight. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote: Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a — Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] still hearing Old Sam Peabody
Another place to find breeding White-throated Sparrows is along Miller Creek in the Danby State Forest. -Geo Kloppel On Jun 15, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: Uncommon, and typically in the higher forested areas, such as Hammond Hill, Summer Hill, Shindagin Hollow. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 01:40 PM, David Ruppert d...@cornell.edu wrote: We’ve been hearing White-throated Sparrow song since sometime in May when they were migrating through. We are still hearing this song, and it’s always coming from the same area, a thicket along Cascadilla Creek in Ellis Hollow. I assume there’s a nesting pair. How unusual is it for White-throated Sparrows to nest in this area? David Ruppert -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
Looks like a Zone-tailed Hawk. The first photo seems to show some reddish, but the third seems to show a typical Z-t pattern. There have been records in MA and the maritime a in Canada recently. Yet another would-be basin bird that this out-of-basin will miss. Ryan Bakelaar On Jun 15, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote: Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a — Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
I agree with Dave regarding a Broad-winged Hawk. Ann Mitchell Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I am NOT an authority on raptors, but that has never stopped me from commenting before, so here's my guess: I think the first blurry photo looks like a dark type of Red-tailed Hawk more typically found out west. I think the second and third photos are of a different bird with a feather missing from primaries on each side. The only species of Buteo around here with such a wide bold white stripe in the tail is Broad-winged Hawk, which also shows a black outline to the ends of the flight feathers on the entire wing, as seen in the third photo. However, dark-type Broad-winged Hawks are rare, and the wing shape looks too long and rounded to me, so I'm not at all confident. I hope someone who really knows what they are talking about has a look at your photos and sets me straight. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote: Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a — Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html'http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Oriole nestling observations
An oriole couple built one of their hanging nests right over our house. It was a joy watching her knit it out of grass and hair and such, and watching the beautiful male sing to her while doing so, Babies have hatched -there are ate least 4, maybe 5 in there, a tight fit. I set up my scope today to watch the action. They are about a week old now I would guess, all heads come out of the nest for insects, one obviously larger and older than the others. The male brings the food - caterpillars or other insects. I watched him trying to feed what looked like a tomato horn worm to his young. The thing was so huge none of them could eat it. The dad wound up breaking it up into pieces so they could eat it. The mom spends time grooming the nestlings - removing bugs maybe, and wiping them on her breast, or else wiping oils from her breast onto them. She dives head first into the nest cup, not sure what she's doing down there - cleaning up after them? Or? All that shows when she does this are the tips of her wings, pointed sky-ward, and her tail. It's so much fun watching these behaviors you never get to see. Others are welcome if you want to watch, but I bet they will be fledging in a week or so. Nancy Cusumano Duboise Road (off rt 89) Cayuga Dog Rescue has saved more than 460 dogs since 2005. Learn more at cayugadogrescue.org -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Additoins: RE: Spencer Marsh and Danby Area
Also a raven croaked all the time I was there! Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 42.429007,-76.47111 http://haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ From: bounce-116267989-3493...@list.cornell.edu bounce-116267989-3493...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Meena Madhav Haribal m...@cornell.edu Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 2:51 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Spencer Marsh and Danby Area Hello all, I was not going to bird or ode as I want to finish my garden work, but could not resist this beautiful weather. So I headed to my favorite Spencer Marsh to look for Northern Bluets. I was not disappointed as I saw quite a few of those. Plus I believe I saw an Emerald Spreadwing, which is new to this location for me. I came across the same birds which I see every year. The birds were Prairie Warblers, Yellow Warblers (several of them counter singing, one of them was doing Chestnut-sided's secondary like call and I though t so too but when I saw I was surprised), a Hooded Warbler, I think I also heard a Magnolia coming from the Gravel pit company's land, Chestnut-sided, Ovenbirds and Common Yellowthroats. A Black-billed Cuckoo flew over me at a very low height and landed on a tree in a plain view. Least Flycatchers and Willow Flycatchers continuously called. A Virginia Rail called a couple of times. There were two calls which I could not for sure identify, one I think was a nesting Green Heron and I think I have heard the same call here in the past too, but I need to confirm. Second call stumped me, I have recorded them on my cell phone when I get time I will review and post. I just listened it sounds like a Catbird with low energy. I also saw a Brown Thrasher twice, once it was on the road and looking for something, but it was panting in the hot sun, with its bill open. Then I stopped at a grocery/gas line store near the junction of Rt 13 and I saw a Yellow-billed Cuckoo land in one of the trees in the parking lot. By the way I bought something which was written on the cover as Garlic Bread but inside it was potato chips and picture outside was very different from contents inside, had no choice had to eat them. I am going to complain to Lays for fooling me! Then as usual I stopped at Lick Brook parking lot to look for Riffle Snaketails, I did find one on the rock and that was it. But I did find some nice birds and butterflies here. I heard a singing Orchard Oriole near the woods along railway crossings. I have heard one in the past years too here. Also there were Redstarts, Warbling, Yellow-throated and Red-eyed Vireos, Blue-grey Gnatcatcher, Baltimore Orioles and many Common Yellowthroats, which are regulars here every year. Now back to work I guess! Cheers Meena PS: Has anyone birded Northern Honshu or Hokkaido in summer? If so where did you go? Please email me, I am also interested in seeing Rock Ptarmigans there in the alps. Any good suggestion is welcome in next two days. Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 42.429007,-76.47111 http://haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
I couldn't reconcile the red tail of photo 1 with the black and white stripes of photo 3, even though I have seen various effects of looking through backlit feathers. The reason I didn't say Red-shouldered Hawk is that the white tail-band appeared too wide to me (but this may be a focus issue, or may judgement may be wrong), and the white mark in the otherwise even-colored primaries appears to me due to a molted missing feather on each side, not a window across the primaries. The reason I said the only species of Buteo around here is that Zone-tailed Hawk is way out of range, and also is less familiar to me. My guess was that Zone-tailed would not look so pale on the flight feathers of the wings. I am open to correction on all points. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 08:28 PM, Sandy Podulka s...@cornell.edu wrote: As you know, I'm really just a beginner at hawks.. but... What about a Red-shouldered Hawk? It's got the white windows and the banded tail. The reddish appearance of the tail could just be sunlight shining through brownish feathers, which can really play tricks on the eye. It seems like the distribution of light and dark on the underside of the wings matches that of Red-shouldered Hawk. Sandy At 08:09 PM 6/15/2014, Ann Mitchell wrote: I agree with Dave regarding a Broad-winged Hawk. Ann Mitchell Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I am NOT an authority on raptors, but that has never stopped me from commenting before, so here's my guess: I think the first blurry photo looks like a dark type of Red-tailed Hawk more typically found out west. I think the second and third photos are of a different bird with a feather missing from primaries on each side. The only species of Buteo around here with such a wide bold white stripe in the tail is Broad-winged Hawk, which also shows a black outline to the ends of the flight feathers on the entire wing, as seen in the third photo. However, dark-type Broad-winged Hawks are rare, and the wing shape looks too long and rounded to me, so I'm not at all confident. I hope someone who really knows what they are talking about has a look at your photos and sets me straight. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote: Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the oneâs Iâm used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I havenât seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html' http://www.mail-archive.com/ cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk
The photos seem to demonstrate barring on the primaries, more so than I would expect on even a dark phase Broad-wing. The molted out feather allows this characteristic to be seen somewhat well. This bird's proportions seem to weigh against B-wing too. The wings seem long and narrow, with only a slight bulge of the secondaries. Tail seems long as we'll. The photos also seem to show a black body. Any of our resident experts care to weigh in? Ryan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I couldn't reconcile the red tail of photo 1 with the black and white stripes of photo 3, even though I have seen various effects of looking through backlit feathers. The reason I didn't say Red-shouldered Hawk is that the white tail-band appeared too wide to me (but this may be a focus issue, or may judgement may be wrong), and the white mark in the otherwise even-colored primaries appears to me due to a molted missing feather on each side, not a window across the primaries. The reason I said the only species of Buteo around here is that Zone-tailed Hawk is way out of range, and also is less familiar to me. My guess was that Zone-tailed would not look so pale on the flight feathers of the wings. I am open to correction on all points. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 08:28 PM, Sandy Podulka s...@cornell.edu wrote: As you know, I'm really just a beginner at hawks.. but... What about a Red-shouldered Hawk? It's got the white windows and the banded tail. The reddish appearance of the tail could just be sunlight shining through brownish feathers, which can really play tricks on the eye. It seems like the distribution of light and dark on the underside of the wings matches that of Red-shouldered Hawk. Sandy At 08:09 PM 6/15/2014, Ann Mitchell wrote: I agree with Dave regarding a Broad-winged Hawk. Ann Mitchell Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I am NOT an authority on raptors, but that has never stopped me from commenting before, so here's my guess: I think the first blurry photo looks like a dark type of Red-tailed Hawk more typically found out west. I think the second and third photos are of a different bird with a feather missing from primaries on each side. The only species of Buteo around here with such a wide bold white stripe in the tail is Broad-winged Hawk, which also shows a black outline to the ends of the flight feathers on the entire wing, as seen in the third photo. However, dark-type Broad-winged Hawks are rare, and the wing shape looks too long and rounded to me, so I'm not at all confident. I hope someone who really knows what they are talking about has a look at your photos and sets me straight. --Dave Nutter On Jun 15, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman r...@cornell.edu wrote: Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was quit dark below. So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen around here before? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a — Ray -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html' http://www.mail-archive.com/ cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2)
