The photos seem to demonstrate barring on the primaries, more so than I would expect on even a dark phase Broad-wing. The molted out feather allows this characteristic to be seen somewhat well. This bird's proportions seem to weigh against B-wing too. The wings seem long and narrow, with only a slight bulge of the secondaries. Tail seems long as we'll. The photos also seem to show a black body.
Any of our resident experts care to weigh in? Ryan. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Dave Nutter <nutter.d...@me.com> wrote: > > I couldn't reconcile the red tail of photo 1 with the black and white stripes > of photo 3, even though I have seen various effects of looking through > backlit feathers. The reason I didn't say Red-shouldered Hawk is that the > white tail-band appeared too wide to me (but this may be a focus issue, or > may judgement may be wrong), and the white mark in the otherwise even-colored > primaries appears to me due to a molted missing feather on each side, not a > "window" across the primaries. The reason I said "the only species of Buteo > around here" is that Zone-tailed Hawk is way out of range, and also is less > familiar to me. My guess was that Zone-tailed would not look so pale on the > flight feathers of the wings. I am open to correction on all points. > --Dave Nutter > >> On Jun 15, 2014, at 08:28 PM, Sandy Podulka <s...@cornell.edu> wrote: >> >> As you know, I'm really just a beginner at hawks...... but... What about a >> Red-shouldered Hawk? It's got the white windows and the banded tail. The >> reddish appearance of the tail could just be sunlight shining through >> brownish feathers, which can really play tricks on the eye. It seems like >> the distribution of light and dark on the underside of the wings matches >> that of Red-shouldered Hawk. >> >> Sandy >> >> At 08:09 PM 6/15/2014, Ann Mitchell wrote: >>> I agree with Dave regarding a Broad-winged Hawk. Ann Mitchell >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Dave Nutter <nutter.d...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am NOT an authority on raptors, but that has never stopped me from >>>> commenting before, so here's my guess: >>>> >>>> I think the first blurry photo looks like a dark type of Red-tailed Hawk >>>> more typically found out west. >>>> >>>> I think the second and third photos are of a different bird with a feather >>>> missing from primaries on each side. The only species of Buteo around here >>>> with such a wide bold white stripe in the tail is Broad-winged Hawk, which >>>> also shows a black outline to the ends of the flight feathers on the >>>> entire wing, as seen in the third photo. However, dark-type Broad-winged >>>> Hawks are rare, and the wing shape looks too long and rounded to me, so >>>> I'm not at all confident. I hope someone who really knows what they are >>>> talking about has a look at your photos and sets me straight. >>>> >> --Dave >> Nutter >> >>> On Jun 15, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Ray Zimmerman <r...@cornell.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Today around 12:30pm as I stepped outside (in Eastern Heights, Ithaca) the >>> call of red-tailed hawk caught my attention and I quickly spotted it >>> circling overhead. As I grabbed my binoculars, I soon realized that it was >>> a very unusual red-tail (at least very different from the one’s I’m >>> used to seeing). As you can see from very bad photos linked below, it was >>> quit dark below. >>> >>> So is this a western bird, or is this just a variation I haven’t seen >>> around here before? >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t7pw5hoifjpzeey/AABcyimp4JipHTo8DwZc0r8-a >>> >>> — Ray >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> 1) cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html'> http://www.mail-archive.com/ >>> cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu /maillist.html >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds >>> 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> -- >> -- >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> ---- >> Cayugabirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> BirdingOnThe.Net >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > -- > Cayugabirds-L List Info: > Welcome and Basics > Rules and Information > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > Archives: > The Mail Archive > Surfbirds > BirdingOnThe.Net > Please submit your observations to eBird! > -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
