[ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement

2012-02-08 Thread Jiang Jiahong
 Dear all,
I am looking for some kind of dye for protein affinity comparison, but do not 
know which to choose.

I know  protein A can contact B to form a complex,now I hope to find something 
simiar with A to act as an inhibitor to block the process of A-B complex 
formation. Maybe a short peptide, a segment of protein A or even some organic 
molecule.

Because here is a poor access to ITC nor Biacore, I can only rely on some dye 
to check the competence between A and inhibitor candidates.

If any one can offer any suggestions. That would be so grateful! Any way,thank 
kind-hearted people in advance!

Regards
 Jiahong




Re: [ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement

2012-02-08 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Jiahong

Thermo sells a series of kits called DyLight Fluor for fluorescent
labelling of antibodies or other proteins.  They have everything you need
and they're very convenient and easy to use.  You can pick the excitation
and emission wavelength.  If you label both A and B (or C) with different
colors you will be able to see if both are in your crystals (assuming
crystallization is part of your approach).

You need only label a small percentage of your protein or peptide to see
whether the protein is present in a crystal.

Patrick


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DyLight_Fluor

Forsythe, E.L., Achari, A., and Pusey, Marc L. (2006),  Trace Fluorescent
Labeling for High Throughput Crystallography, Acta Cryst. D62, 339-346.

We used DyLight 350 NHS Ester to check we had protein crystals - see
methods section of *Cryst. Growth Des.*, 2011, *11* (8), pp 3432–3441




2012/2/8 Jiang Jiahong jiang_jiah...@126.com

  Dear all,
 I am looking for some kind of dye for protein affinity comparison, but do
 not know which to choose.

 I know  protein A can contact B to form a complex,now I hope to find
 something simiar with A to act as an inhibitor to block the process of A-B
 complex formation. Maybe a short peptide, a segment of protein A or even
 some organic molecule.

 Because here is a poor access to ITC nor Biacore, I can only rely on some
 dye to check the competence between A and inhibitor candidates.

 If any one can offer any suggestions. That would be so grateful! Any
 way,thank kind-hearted people in advance!

 Regards
  Jiahong







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 Douglas House, East Garston, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 7HD, UK
 Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart

 http://www.douglas.co.uk
 Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
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Re: [ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement

2012-02-08 Thread Xiaodi Yu

Hello Jiahong:

If I understand correctly that you want to test protein-protein interaction or 
inhibition study in solution, maybe you can try something like ELISA to test 
protein-protein interaction. Or if your B protein has 6 histag, you can use 
Ni-NTA agrose beads to test inhibition or binding depending on your purpose. 
And another option (a little dangerous ), is using radio active to label one 
of your protein. 

Yu Xiaodi

Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:17:47 +
From: patr...@douglas.co.uk
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Jiahong
Thermo sells a series of kits called DyLight Fluor for fluorescent labelling of 
antibodies or other proteins.  They have everything you need and they're very 
convenient and easy to use.  You can pick the excitation and emission 
wavelength.  If you label both A and B (or C) with different colors you will 
be able to see if both are in your crystals (assuming crystallization is part 
of your approach).

You need only label a small percentage of your protein or peptide to see 
whether the protein is present in a crystal.
Patrick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DyLight_Fluor

Forsythe, E.L., Achari, A., and Pusey, Marc L. (2006),  Trace Fluorescent 
Labeling for High Throughput Crystallography, Acta Cryst. D62, 339-346. 
We used DyLight 350 NHS Ester to check we had protein crystals - see 
methods section of Cryst. Growth Des., 2011, 11 (8), pp 3432–3441




2012/2/8 Jiang Jiahong jiang_jiah...@126.com

 Dear all,
I am looking for some kind of dye for protein affinity comparison, but do not 
know which to choose.

I know  protein A can contact B to form a complex,now I hope to find something 
simiar with A to act as an inhibitor to block the process of A-B complex 
formation. Maybe a short peptide, a segment of protein A or even some organic 
molecule.


Because here is a poor access to ITC nor Biacore, I can only rely on some dye 
to check the competence between A and inhibitor candidates.

If any one can offer any suggestions. That would be so grateful! Any way,thank 
kind-hearted people in advance!


Regards
 Jiahong






-- 

 patr...@douglas.co.ukDouglas Instruments Ltd.
 Douglas House, East Garston, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 7HD, UK
 Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart


 http://www.douglas.co.uk
 Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
 Regd. England 2177994, VAT Reg. GB 480 7371 36


  

Re: [ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement

2012-02-08 Thread Vandana Kukshal
Hi,

   -   If ur protein is making strong complex then You can run Native
   page  with increasing concentration of your inhibitor peptide
   and decrease in complex band intensity will show you competitive binding of
   your inhibitor to  proteins.
   -  You can do ELISA... by coating one of your protein ad then add second
   protein and then detect by using antibodies against second protein ... with
   increasing concentration of peptide or inhibitor signal should go down.
   -  if interaction is weak then design a peptide (part of protein B )
   which definitely binds to protein with Alexa , or FITC labelled and do
   interaction study by observing the change in fluorescence. and if
   interaction is there do assay with different inhibitors ...





On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Xiaodi Yu uppsala@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hello Jiahong:

 If I understand correctly that you want to test protein-protein
 interaction or inhibition study in solution, maybe you can try something
 like ELISA to test protein-protein interaction. Or if your B protein has 6
 histag, you can use Ni-NTA agrose beads to test inhibition or binding
 depending on your purpose. And another option (a little dangerous ), is
 using radio active to label one of your protein.

 Yu Xiaodi

 --
 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:17:47 +
 From: patr...@douglas.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Dye for protein affinity measurement
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


 Jiahong

 Thermo sells a series of kits called DyLight Fluor for fluorescent
 labelling of antibodies or other proteins.  They have everything you need
 and they're very convenient and easy to use.  You can pick the excitation
 and emission wavelength.  If you label both A and B (or C) with different
 colors you will be able to see if both are in your crystals (assuming
 crystallization is part of your approach).

 You need only label a small percentage of your protein or peptide to see
 whether the protein is present in a crystal.

 Patrick


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DyLight_Fluor

 Forsythe, E.L., Achari, A., and Pusey, Marc L. (2006),  Trace Fluorescent
 Labeling for High Throughput Crystallography, Acta Cryst. D62, 339-346.

 We used DyLight 350 NHS Ester to check we had protein crystals - see
 methods section of *Cryst. Growth Des.*, 2011, *11* (8), pp 3432–3441




 2012/2/8 Jiang Jiahong jiang_jiah...@126.com

  Dear all,
 I am looking for some kind of dye for protein affinity comparison, but do
 not know which to choose.

 I know  protein A can contact B to form a complex,now I hope to find
 something simiar with A to act as an inhibitor to block the process of A-B
 complex formation. Maybe a short peptide, a segment of protein A or even
 some organic molecule.

 Because here is a poor access to ITC nor Biacore, I can only rely on some
 dye to check the competence between A and inhibitor candidates.

 If any one can offer any suggestions. That would be so grateful! Any
 way,thank kind-hearted people in advance!

 Regards
  Jiahong







 --
  patr...@douglas.co.ukDouglas Instruments Ltd.
  Douglas House, East Garston, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 7HD, UK
  Directors: Peter Baldock, Patrick Shaw Stewart

  http://www.douglas.co.uk
  Tel: 44 (0) 148-864-9090US toll-free 1-877-225-2034
  Regd. England 2177994, VAT Reg. GB 480 7371 36




-- 
Vandana kukshal