Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-27 Thread Jacob Keller
I want to pitch again for NoteTab--it is really useful, can do almost
everything a good text editor should. I particularly like to use
regexes, and you can do that with NoteTab, along with a ton of other
things. I am not affiliated in any way, and the program is totally
free and does not install toolbars or anything. Try it! Maybe it
should be part of ccp4!

Jacob

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Pierre Rizkallah
 wrote:
> Dear BB Readers,
>
> I have used CCP4 on Windows exclusively for nearly 10 years now. The text 
> editor of choice for PDB files coming out of CCP4 has always been WORDPAD, 
> which comes with Windows, no need to download. NOTEPAD causes me great 
> difficulty with PDB files, probably because of my age, but let's not get hung 
> up on that. I have never been interested enough in chasing up ways of using 
> NOTEPAD properly.
>
> In the last couple of months, CCP4 started outputting PDB files that appeared 
> in WORDPAD as one continuous line, i.e. no line feed. This was an 
> INTERMITTENT behaviour. I could not reproduce it to order. These files are 
> readable by NOTEPAD, despite my dislike of this editor. I have not changed 
> anything in my set up or in the CCP4 or Coot installation. So I could blame 
> it on some system updates in WINDOWS that are invisible to me, but then again 
> it could be a fault of something else, perhaps like changing the  
> combination already mentioned. The files are usually readable in COOT, which 
> reads anything coming out of CCP4, but again output from COOT is occasionally 
> unreadable in CCP4. NOTEPAD readable files are usually OK. Unfortunately, I 
> don't have a recipe for correct action.
>
> Having said all that, at the moment output PDB files from CCP4 and COOT 
> appear to be all well behaved in terms of readability, both in the Windows 
> editors and in CCP4. I would like to think this problem has disappeared just 
> as it had appeared suddenly. I shall continue to look out for symptoms of 
> trouble.
>
> Pierre
> ***
> Dr Pierre Rizkallah, Senior Lecturer in Structural Biology,
> Wales Heart Research Institute, Heath Campus, Cardiff CF14 4XN
> email: rizkall...@cardiff.ac.uk     phone + 44 29 2074 2248
>
> -CCP4 bulletin board  wrote: -
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> From: Robbie Joosten
> Sent by: CCP4 bulletin board
> Date: 27-09-2011 05:22
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM
>
> One would assume that Windows software would read DOS/Windows type text 
> files...
> Open the file in Wordpad. Unlike Notepad, it is able to work with Windows and 
> Unix type text files. If you edit something and save the file, it will be in 
> Windows style. If Superpose stops on that, it should really be updated. I'm 
> sure that there are Windows versions op the programs Unix2dos and Dos2unix 
> which were the programs to use to convert one type to the other. You can also 
> use Word to search and replace the linefeeds.
>
> Good luck with this very retro problem.
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:07:50 -0600
>> From: xtald...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>
>> I think something in your workflow is inserting dos line feeds (\n\r or 
>> \r\n, I can't remember which).
>>
>> If I have guessed correctly, you want to remove those "\r"s before 
>> proceeding (or never let them get in there in the first place).
>>
>> You claim to open it with MS something, which would insert dos line feeds as 
>> part of Operation Vendor Lock. Did you happen to save it, perhaps by habit? 
>> That would do the trick. It might even do something insidious and insert 
>> those linefeeds without your purposefully saving the document.
>>
>> Your best bet to fix the file after corruption is vim (used to be that 
>> "crystallographers" could use real text editors).
>>
>> The command in vim is:
>>
>> :%s/\r//g
>>
>> You might find some third party utility that fixes linefeeds for $30.00 
>> somewhere, if vim is too "retro".
>>
>> Otherwise, you may want to start over, skip checking it out in MS something, 
>> and go straight to superpose.
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
>>
>> > Hi again,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here is 
>> > what I'm doing:
>> >
>> > 1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb : works, but gives out 
>> > proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )
&g

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-27 Thread Pierre Rizkallah
Dear BB Readers,

I have used CCP4 on Windows exclusively for nearly 10 years now. The text 
editor of choice for PDB files coming out of CCP4 has always been WORDPAD, 
which comes with Windows, no need to download. NOTEPAD causes me great 
difficulty with PDB files, probably because of my age, but let's not get hung 
up on that. I have never been interested enough in chasing up ways of using 
NOTEPAD properly.

In the last couple of months, CCP4 started outputting PDB files that appeared 
in WORDPAD as one continuous line, i.e. no line feed. This was an INTERMITTENT 
behaviour. I could not reproduce it to order. These files are readable by 
NOTEPAD, despite my dislike of this editor. I have not changed anything in my 
set up or in the CCP4 or Coot installation. So I could blame it on some system 
updates in WINDOWS that are invisible to me, but then again it could be a fault 
of something else, perhaps like changing the  combination already 
mentioned. The files are usually readable in COOT, which reads anything coming 
out of CCP4, but again output from COOT is occasionally unreadable in CCP4. 
NOTEPAD readable files are usually OK. Unfortunately, I don't have a recipe for 
correct action.

Having said all that, at the moment output PDB files from CCP4 and COOT appear 
to be all well behaved in terms of readability, both in the Windows editors and 
in CCP4. I would like to think this problem has disappeared just as it had 
appeared suddenly. I shall continue to look out for symptoms of trouble.

Pierre
***
Dr Pierre Rizkallah, Senior Lecturer in Structural Biology,
Wales Heart Research Institute, Heath Campus, Cardiff CF14 4XN
email: rizkall...@cardiff.ac.uk phone + 44 29 2074 2248

-CCP4 bulletin board  wrote: - 
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
From: Robbie Joosten 
Sent by: CCP4 bulletin board 
Date: 27-09-2011 05:22
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

One would assume that Windows software would read DOS/Windows type text 
files... 
Open the file in Wordpad. Unlike Notepad, it is able to work with Windows and 
Unix type text files. If you edit something and save the file, it will be in 
Windows style. If Superpose stops on that, it should really be updated. I'm 
sure that there are Windows versions op the programs Unix2dos and Dos2unix 
which were the programs to use to convert one type to the other. You can also 
use Word to search and replace the linefeeds.

Good luck with this very retro problem. 
Cheers,
Robbie

> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:07:50 -0600
> From: xtald...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> 
> I think something in your workflow is inserting dos line feeds (\n\r or \r\n, 
> I can't remember which).
> 
> If I have guessed correctly, you want to remove those "\r"s before proceeding 
> (or never let them get in there in the first place).
> 
> You claim to open it with MS something, which would insert dos line feeds as 
> part of Operation Vendor Lock. Did you happen to save it, perhaps by habit? 
> That would do the trick. It might even do something insidious and insert 
> those linefeeds without your purposefully saving the document. 
> 
> Your best bet to fix the file after corruption is vim (used to be that 
> "crystallographers" could use real text editors).
> 
> The command in vim is:
> 
> :%s/\r//g
> 
> You might find some third party utility that fixes linefeeds for $30.00 
> somewhere, if vim is too "retro".
> 
> Otherwise, you may want to start over, skip checking it out in MS something, 
> and go straight to superpose.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
> 
> > Hi again,
> > 
> > Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here is 
> > what I'm doing:
> > 
> > 1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb : works, but gives out 
> > proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )
> > 
> > 2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because 
> > proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I guess 
> > superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:
> >> I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
> >> cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
> >> [sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
> >> at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.
> >> 
> >> JPK
> >> 
&

Re: [ccp4bb] **Possible spam**[ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-27 Thread Andrey Lebedev
Hi Matthias

Thank you for your report.
This is a genuine bug, lsqkab puts "\015\015\012" in the end of line instead of 
"\015\012"
We will try to fix it.

Andrey

On 26 Sep 2011, at 20:42, Matthias Zebisch wrote:

> Dear CCP4 users,
> 
> I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a 
> problem with superpose.
> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which, 
> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
> The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not 
> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.
> 
> Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround available? 
> I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...
> 
> I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I 
> updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.
> 
> Any help will be highly appreciated,
> 
> Thanks, Matthias
> 


Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-27 Thread David Waterman
Windows users might like to download the free editor Notepad++ (
http://notepad-plus-plus.org/) as a replacement for the dire editor that
comes as standard with the OS. This handles end of line conversions, does
hex dumps, syntax highlighting etc. You *can* make a decent OS out of
Windows - once you obtain enough third party components.

Cheers

-- David


On 27 September 2011 05:22, Robbie Joosten wrote:

> One would assume that Windows software would read DOS/Windows type text
> files...
> Open the file in Wordpad. Unlike Notepad, it is able to work with Windows
> and Unix type text files. If you edit something and save the file, it will
> be in Windows style. If Superpose stops on that, it should really be
> updated. I'm sure that there are Windows versions op the programs Unix2dos
> and Dos2unix which were the programs to use to convert one type to the
> other. You can also use Word to search and replace the linefeeds.
>
> Good luck with this very retro problem.
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:07:50 -0600
> > From: xtald...@gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> >
> > I think something in your workflow is inserting dos line feeds (\n\r or
> \r\n, I can't remember which).
> >
> > If I have guessed correctly, you want to remove those "\r"s before
> proceeding (or never let them get in there in the first place).
> >
> > You claim to open it with MS something, which would insert dos line feeds
> as part of Operation Vendor Lock. Did you happen to save it, perhaps by
> habit? That would do the trick. It might even do something insidious and
> insert those linefeeds without your purposefully saving the document.
> >
> > Your best bet to fix the file after corruption is vim (used to be that
> "crystallographers" could use real text editors).
> >
> > The command in vim is:
> >
> > :%s/\r//g
> >
> > You might find some third party utility that fixes linefeeds for $30.00
> somewhere, if vim is too "retro".
> >
> > Otherwise, you may want to start over, skip checking it out in MS
> something, and go straight to superpose.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here
> is what I'm doing:
> > >
> > > 1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb : works, but gives out
> proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )
> > >
> > > 2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because
> proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > > Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I
> guess superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Matthias
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:
> > >> I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
> > >> cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
> > >> [sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
> > >> at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.
> > >>
> > >> JPK
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>> Dear CCP4 users,
> > >>>
> > >>> I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across
> a
> > >>> problem with superpose.
> > >>> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture)
> which,
> > >>> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
> > >>> The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is
> not
> > >>> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround
> available?
> > >>> I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...
> > >>>
> > >>> I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2.
> When I
> > >>> updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any help will be highly appreciated,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks, Matthias
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Robbie Joosten
One would assume that Windows software would read DOS/Windows type text 
files... 
Open the file in Wordpad. Unlike Notepad, it is able to work with Windows and 
Unix type text files. If you edit something and save the file, it will be in 
Windows style. If Superpose stops on that, it should really be updated. I'm 
sure that there are Windows versions op the programs Unix2dos and Dos2unix 
which were the programs to use to convert one type to the other. You can also 
use Word to search and replace the linefeeds.

Good luck with this very retro problem. 
Cheers,
Robbie

> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:07:50 -0600
> From: xtald...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> 
> I think something in your workflow is inserting dos line feeds (\n\r or \r\n, 
> I can't remember which).
> 
> If I have guessed correctly, you want to remove those "\r"s before proceeding 
> (or never let them get in there in the first place).
> 
> You claim to open it with MS something, which would insert dos line feeds as 
> part of Operation Vendor Lock. Did you happen to save it, perhaps by habit? 
> That would do the trick.  It might even do something insidious and insert 
> those linefeeds without your purposefully saving the document. 
> 
> Your best bet to fix the file after corruption is vim (used to be that 
> "crystallographers" could use real text editors).
> 
> The command in vim is:
> 
>   :%s/\r//g
> 
> You might find some third party utility that fixes linefeeds for $30.00 
> somewhere, if vim is too "retro".
> 
> Otherwise, you may want to start over, skip checking it out in MS something, 
> and go straight to superpose.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
> 
> > Hi again,
> > 
> > Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here is 
> > what I'm doing:
> > 
> > 1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb  : works, but gives out 
> > proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )
> > 
> > 2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because 
> > proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I guess 
> > superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:
> >> I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
> >> cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
> >> [sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
> >> at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.
> >> 
> >> JPK
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
> >>   wrote:
> >>> Dear CCP4 users,
> >>> 
> >>> I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a
> >>> problem with superpose.
> >>> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
> >>> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
> >>> The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not
> >>> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.
> >>> 
> >>> Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround 
> >>> available?
> >>> I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...
> >>> 
> >>> I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I
> >>> updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.
> >>> 
> >>> Any help will be highly appreciated,
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks, Matthias
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
  

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread James Stroud
I think something in your workflow is inserting dos line feeds (\n\r or \r\n, I 
can't remember which).

If I have guessed correctly, you want to remove those "\r"s before proceeding 
(or never let them get in there in the first place).

You claim to open it with MS something, which would insert dos line feeds as 
part of Operation Vendor Lock. Did you happen to save it, perhaps by habit? 
That would do the trick.  It might even do something insidious and insert those 
linefeeds without your purposefully saving the document. 

Your best bet to fix the file after corruption is vim (used to be that 
"crystallographers" could use real text editors).

The command in vim is:

  :%s/\r//g

You might find some third party utility that fixes linefeeds for $30.00 
somewhere, if vim is too "retro".

Otherwise, you may want to start over, skip checking it out in MS something, 
and go straight to superpose.

James



On Sep 26, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthias Zebisch wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here is 
> what I'm doing:
> 
> 1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb  : works, but gives out 
> proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )
> 
> 2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because 
> proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read
> 
> Any ideas?
> Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I guess 
> superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:
>> I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
>> cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
>> [sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
>> at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.
>> 
>> JPK
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
>>   wrote:
>>> Dear CCP4 users,
>>> 
>>> I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a
>>> problem with superpose.
>>> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
>>> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
>>> The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not
>>> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.
>>> 
>>> Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround available?
>>> I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...
>>> 
>>> I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I
>>> updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.
>>> 
>>> Any help will be highly appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Matthias
>>> 
>> 
>> 


Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Edward A. Berry

>>> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
>>> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
What application ARE the extra lines seen in?

Sounds like a problem with different newline conventions-
 vs  vs  -
although I shouldn't have thought extra carriage returns and linefeeds
would confuse a program reading a PDB.

Maybe the latest update uses the windows  on output
but still unix  for input

Anyway, to help the developers debug, it would be good to provide
a hex dump of a portion of the pdb file. If you don't have a windows
hex editor you can use debug (I assume it still exists in windows 7)

Open a dos shell and cd to the directory where the peculiar
file is, and

debug lsq1.pdb
  d 100 200
that is dump from the beginning of the file (which is loaded
starting hex 100) to hex 200. If there is a big header you
may want to skip down to the ATOM records,  d 1000 1100
or such.
this gives hex dump on left and ascii on the right like below.
Lines are separated by two dots in the ascii which correspond
to 0D 0A in the hex dump-

-d 100 200
0B05:0100  57 79 61 72 74 69 74 65-3A 20 42 75 72 6E 73 20   Wyartite: Burns
0B05:0110  61 6E 64 20 46 69 6E 63-68 2C 20 41 6D 20 4D 69   and Finch, Am Mi
0B05:0120  6E 20 38 34 20 28 31 39-39 39 29 20 31 34 35 36   n 84 (1999) 1456
0B05:0130  2D 31 34 36 30 0D 0A 57-79 61 72 74 69 74 65 3A   -1460..Wyartite:
0B05:0140  20 43 72 79 73 74 61 6C-6C 6F 67 72 61 70 68 69Crystallographi
0B05:0150  63 20 65 76 69 64 65 6E-63 65 20 66 6F 72 20 74   c evidence for t
0B05:0160  68 65 20 66 69 72 73 74-20 70 65 6E 74 61 76 61   he first pentava
0B05:0170  6C 65 6E 74 2D 75 72 61-6E 69 75 6D 0D 0A 20 6D   lent-uranium.. m
0B05:0180  69 6E 65 72 61 6C 0D 0A-31 31 2E 32 37 30 36 20   ineral..11.2706
0B05:0190  37 2E 31 30 35 35 20 32-30 2E 38 30 37 20 39 30   7.1055 20.807 90
0B05:01A0  20 39 30 20 39 30 20 50-32 32 32 0D 0A 55 31 0D90 90 P222..U1.
0B05:01B0  0A 2E 36 31 31 20 2E 33-31 30 20 2E 31 35 34 20   ..611 .310 .154
0B05:01C0  33 0D 0A 43 0D 0A 2E 35-31 31 20 2E 34 31 30 20   3..C...511 .410
0B05:01D0  2E 31 35 34 20 32 0D 0A-61 6E 69 6F 6E 73 0D 0A   .154 2..anions..
0B05:01E0  4F 31 0D 0A 2E 35 31 31-20 2E 33 31 30 20 2E 31   O1...511 .310 .1
0B05:01F0  35 34 0D 0A 65 6E 64 F0-97 01 75 03 E8 CE E0 3C   54..end...u<
0B05:0200  2E

Matthias Zebisch wrote:

Hi again,

Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here
is what I'm doing:

1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb : works, but gives out
proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )

2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because
proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read

Any ideas?
Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I
guess superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?

Thanks,

Matthias


On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:

I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
[sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.

JPK

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
 wrote:

Dear CCP4 users,

I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a
problem with superpose.
The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
however are not seen in the windows notepad.
The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not
possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.

Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround available?
I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...

I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I
updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.

Any help will be highly appreciated,

Thanks, Matthias








Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Matthias Zebisch

Hi again,

Thanks for your quick replies but I think I made myself not clear. here 
is what I'm doing:


1) superpose proteinA.pdb onto proteinB.pdb  : works, but gives out 
proteinA_lsq1.pdb with extra empty lines (not the anisou lines ;o) )


2) superpose proteinA_lsq1.pdb onto proteinC.pdb : doesnt work because 
proteinA_lsq1.pdb cannot be read


Any ideas?
Even if there is some compatibility issue between CCP4 and windows, I 
guess superpose should be able to read its own files, shouldnt it?


Thanks,

Matthias


On 9/26/2011 9:13 PM, Jacob Keller wrote:

I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
[sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.

JPK

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
  wrote:

Dear CCP4 users,

I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a
problem with superpose.
The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
however are not seen in the windows notepad.
The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not
possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.

Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround available?
I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...

I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I
updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.

Any help will be highly appreciated,

Thanks, Matthias






Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Jacob Keller
I vaguely recall notepad doing something wacky with files in certain
cases...why don't you get the excellent text editor NoteTab Light
[sic] (I use it all the time--free and works great), then take a look
at your files and see whether MS notepad altered the files.

JPK

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Matthias Zebisch
 wrote:
> Dear CCP4 users,
>
> I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a
> problem with superpose.
> The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) which,
> however are not seen in the windows notepad.
> The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not
> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.
>
> Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround available?
> I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain orientations...
>
> I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I
> updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.
>
> Any help will be highly appreciated,
>
> Thanks, Matthias
>



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Re: [ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 20:42 +0100, Matthias Zebisch wrote:
> However, it is not 
> possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition. 

What do you mean by that?  Do you get an error when you use the
superpose output pdb with some other program?



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[ccp4bb] Superpose, SSM

2011-09-26 Thread Matthias Zebisch

Dear CCP4 users,

I am using the ccp4i version 6.2.0 under windows 7. I've come across a 
problem with superpose.
The outputfile appears to have additional line feeds (see picture) 
which, however are not seen in the windows notepad.
The structure can also be opened in coot and pymol. However, it is not 
possible to use it within CCP4, eg. for a subsequent superposition.


Is this problem known to anybody and is there a simple workaround 
available? I need to compare hell of a lot of relative domain 
orientations...


I did not have this problem on a second computer with ccp4 6.1.2. When I 
updated to 6.2.0, the situation was as described above.


Any help will be highly appreciated,

Thanks, Matthias
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