Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-06 Thread Jacob Keller
Does that CA have a metal center (I think they all do)? If so, doesn't the
citrate compete for the metal?

JPK

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote:

 Human carbonic anhdyrase II can be easily crystallized from 1.3 M sodium
 citrate/0.1 M TrisCl pH 8.5 at 10 mg/mL protein concentration. Crystals are
 P21 and easily diffract to beyond 2.0 A on a home source. We cryopreserve
 in ML + 30% glucose. Sulfonamide ligands are easy to soak into the crystals
 in a few minutes during cryopreservation, and provide teaching
 opportunities for protein-ligand model building and refinement.

 Cheers,

 __**_
 Roger Rowlett
 Gordon  Dorothy Kline Professor
 Department of Chemistry
 Colgate University
 13 Oak Drive
 Hamilton, NY 13346

 tel: (315)-228-7245
 ofc: (315)-228-7395
 fax: (315)-228-7935
 email: rrowl...@colgate.edu


 On 02/04/2013 12:31 PM, Jim Pflugrath wrote:

 A number of protein crystal recipes are available on the Rigaku web site:
 http://www.rigaku.com/**products/protein/recipeshttp://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

 Lysozyme is nice because it is so cheap, grows quickly, cryoprotectants
 in a straightforward way, and the unit cells are not large nor are the
 crystals fragile.  One can get triclinic, monoclinic, orthorhombic, and
 tetragonal crystals relatively quickly.

 With hen egg white lysozyme if you are not up for sulfur-SAD phasing,
 then co-crystallizing or quick-soaking in iodide (say 100 mM) gives a very
 nice anomalous signal at just about any wavelength.  That is, no need to
 worry about going to a so-called edge.

 While there are many other easy-to-go crystals, I have found that none of
 them combine all the properties of hen egg white lysozyme has a good
 teaching tool.

 Jim

 ==
 Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with
 cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking
 to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it
 goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a
 citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to
 get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful
 this group is.  Thank you very much.

 Dave




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[ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread David Roberts
So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it goes 
again.


I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in 
protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm 
going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  
It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm hoping 
that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.


I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. Then 
we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty 
easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.


The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as 
the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just 
isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on 
my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in the class grow up 
classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but I 
was wondering what other standard bulletproof conditions are out there.


Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with 
cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking 
to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it 
goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a 
citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to 
get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful 
this group is.  Thank you very much.


Dave


Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Harry Powell

Hi David

try going back to the one that started it all,* myoglobin, a recipe  
is at


http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

(* feel free to argue about this)

On 4 Feb 2013, at Mon4 Feb 16:03, David Roberts wrote:

So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it  
goes again.


I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class  
in protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious,  
and I'm going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data  
collection.  It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire  
process.  I'm hoping that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while  
there.


I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data.  
Then we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty  
easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.


The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this,  
as the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data  
just isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will  
work on my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in the  
class grow up classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously  
lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what other standard  
bulletproof conditions are out there.


Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along  
with cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?   
I'm looking to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and  
see how it goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as  
well (just a citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I  
have about 7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how  
helpful this group is.  Thank you very much.


Dave


Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre,  
Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9  
(Crystallographic Computing)







Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Jayashankar
Dear Powell,

Isn't it there a way to data mine the PDB or the other repository source
for the time/duration/days of the crystals obtained.

Dr. Jayashankar Selvadurai
Hannover
Germany



On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.ukwrote:

 Hi David

 try going back to the one that started it all,* myoglobin, a recipe is at

 http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

 (* feel free to argue about this)

 On 4 Feb 2013, at Mon4 Feb 16:03, David Roberts wrote:

 So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it goes
 again.

 I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in
 protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm
 going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  It's
 just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm hoping that
 we can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.

 I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. Then
 we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty
 easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.

 The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as the
 crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just isn't the
 best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on my proteins,
 but I was thinking of having others in the class grow up classic proteins
 for data collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what
 other standard bulletproof conditions are out there.

 Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with
 cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking
 to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it goes).
 I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a citation
 works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to get
 everything grown and frozen and ready to go.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful
 this group is.  Thank you very much.

 Dave


 Harry
 --
 Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre, Hills
 Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
 Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic
 Computing)







Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Harry Powell

I don't know. Is there?

On 4 Feb 2013, at Mon4 Feb 16:15, Jayashankar wrote:


Dear Powell,

Isn't it there a way to data mine the PDB or the other repository  
source for the time/duration/days of the crystals obtained.


Dr. Jayashankar Selvadurai
Hannover
Germany



On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Harry Powell harry@mrc- 
lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote:

Hi David

try going back to the one that started it all,* myoglobin, a recipe  
is at


http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

(* feel free to argue about this)

On 4 Feb 2013, at Mon4 Feb 16:03, David Roberts wrote:

So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it  
goes again.


I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class  
in protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious,  
and I'm going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data  
collection.  It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire  
process.  I'm hoping that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while  
there.


I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data.  
Then we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement  
(pretty easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.


The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this,  
as the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data  
just isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that  
will work on my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in  
the class grow up classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously  
lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what other standard  
bulletproof conditions are out there.


Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along  
with cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?   
I'm looking to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them  
and see how it goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell  
parameters as well (just a citation works, I can have them figure  
it out).  I have about 7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen  
and ready to go.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how  
helpful this group is.  Thank you very much.


Dave


Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre,  
Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9  
(Crystallographic Computing)








Harry
--
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre,  
Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9  
(Crystallographic Computing)







Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Ganesh Natrajan

Hi David,

You could try the Glucose Isomerase supplied by Hampton. It crystallizes 
under a number of conditions, details of which you can find in their manual.



http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=28sid=56pid=56

Ganesh



Le 04/02/13 17:03, David Roberts a écrit :
So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it 
goes again.


I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in 
protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm 
going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  
It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm 
hoping that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.


I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. 
Then we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty 
easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.


The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as 
the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just 
isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on 
my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in the class grow up 
classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but 
I was wondering what other standard bulletproof conditions are out there.


Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along 
with cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins? I'm 
looking to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see 
how it goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well 
(just a citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 
7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how 
helpful this group is.  Thank you very much.


Dave



Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Dr. Anthony Addlagatta
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Dave,

You can try any or all of these proteins commercially available and all 
conditions for
crystallization and freezing established.

LysozymeFerritinGlucose isomerase   Myoglobin
Proteinase KThaumatin   Trypsin

You can follow this link. We used some of the conditions mentioned in their 
successfully.

http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

Disclaimer: I do not have any commercial interest with Rigaku.

Anthony

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 Hi David
 
 try going back to the one that started it all,* myoglobin, a recipe  
 is at
 
   http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes
 
 (* feel free to argue about this)
 
 On 4 Feb 2013, at Mon4 Feb 16:03, David Roberts wrote:
 
  So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it  
  goes again.
 
  I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class  
  in protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious,  
  and I'm going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data  
  collection.  It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire  
  process.  I'm hoping that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while  
  there.
 
  I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data.  
  Then we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty  
  easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.
 
  The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this,  
  as the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data  
  just isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will  
  work on my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in the  
  class grow up classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously  
  lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what other standard  
  bulletproof conditions are out there.
 
  Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along  
  with cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?   
  I'm looking to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and  
  see how it goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as  
  well (just a citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I  
  have about 7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.
 
  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how  
  helpful this group is.  Thank you very much.
 
  Dave
 
 Harry
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 Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
 Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9  
 (Crystallographic Computing)
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Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
My suggestions would be to look up citations for thaumatin and glucose
isomerase. If I remember correctly, both of them form well diffracting
crystals within a short period of time. I think you can also buy the
purified protein from a vendor. Perhaps you could also try the good old
lysozyme.

Cheers,
Raji



On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM, David Roberts drobe...@depauw.edu wrote:

 So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it goes
 again.

 I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in
 protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm
 going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  It's
 just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm hoping that we
 can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.

 I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. Then
 we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty
 easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.

 The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as the
 crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just isn't the
 best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on my proteins,
 but I was thinking of having others in the class grow up classic proteins
 for data collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what
 other standard bulletproof conditions are out there.

 Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with
 cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking to
 get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it goes).  I
 wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a citation works,
 I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to get everything
 grown and frozen and ready to go.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful
 this group is.  Thank you very much.

 Dave




-- 
Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University


Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Dave,

many methods articles mention a small set of commonly used proteins. E.g.
Mueller et al, Optimal fine phi-slicing for single-photon-counting
pixel detectors, Acta Cryst D68, p42-56 list Insulin, Lysozyme,
Thaumatin, and Thermolysin;

Nanao et al, Improving radiation-damage substructures for RIP, Acta
D61, 1227-1237, list Elastase, Insulin, Lysozyme, Ribonuclease A,
Thaumatin, and Trypsin.
Elastase, though, decided not to crystallise any longer about ten'ish
years ago.

Attached is a different condition for Lysozyme which I received from
Prof. Susana Andrade and which I usually use for teaching. - the
crystals grow during lunch time. They can be picked directly and you
can show the cryo-protecting effect of Ethylene glycol with increasing
concentration.

Best,
Tim

On 02/04/2013 05:03 PM, David Roberts wrote:
 So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it 
 goes again.
 
 I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class 
 in protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, 
 and I'm going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data 
 collection. It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire 
 process.  I'm hoping that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while 
 there.
 
 I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. 
 Then we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty
 easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.
 
 The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, 
 as the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data 
 just isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that
 will work on my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in
 the class grow up classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously 
 lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what other standard 
 bulletproof conditions are out there.
 
 Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along 
 with cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins? I'm
 looking to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see
 how it goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well
 (just a citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have
 about 7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how 
 helpful this group is.  Thank you very much.
 
 Dave
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D.
Bovine trypsin works well.  You can buy it pretty cheap from Sigma and it 
crystallizes without further purification, within a week.  Crystals diffract to 
1.1-1.3 A and are quite robust to handling and soaking.  Conditions that I used 
are described in this ref:
http://www.pnas.org/content/103/18/6835.long

I would avoid commercial preps of porcine elastase; I messed around with that 
one around 10 years ago using many reported crystallization conditions and 
suppliers but never got crystals.

Evette S. Radisky, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Mayo Clinic Cancer Center
Griffin Cancer Research Building, Rm 310
4500 San Pablo Road
Jacksonville, FL 32224
(904) 953-6372

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of David 
Roberts
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:03 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it goes again.

I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in protein 
crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm going to take a 
class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  
It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm hoping that we 
can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.

I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. Then we'd 
come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty easy/standard 
really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.

The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as the 
crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just isn't the best 
(resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on my proteins, but I was 
thinking of having others in the class grow up classic proteins for data 
collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but I was wondering what other standard 
bulletproof conditions are out there.

Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with cryo 
conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking to get 6-8 
different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it goes).  I wouldn't mind 
knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a citation works, I can have them 
figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to get everything grown and frozen and 
ready to go.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful this 
group is.  Thank you very much.

Dave


Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread vellieux
I second that. Gently swirling the bottle (very important) before 
pipetting a few microliters (say 100 microliters or whatever).


Dialyse overnight vs 10 mM HEPES 2 mM MgCl2 ph7, then get the protein 
concentration to 10 mg/ml. Set up the drops (sitting drops) versus the 
same buffer with 30% (v/v) MPD. Direct cryo conditions. Depending on the 
material (plastic) used for the sitting drop trays you may find it 
difficult to get crystals out - you'll break up a few - but then no 
messing up to try to find cryo-conditions.


Fred.

On 04/02/13 17:27, Ganesh Natrajan wrote:

Hi David,

You could try the Glucose Isomerase supplied by Hampton. It 
crystallizes under a number of conditions, details of which you can 
find in their manual.



http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=28sid=56pid=56

Ganesh


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Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Roger Rowlett
Human carbonic anhdyrase II can be easily crystallized from 1.3 M sodium 
citrate/0.1 M TrisCl pH 8.5 at 10 mg/mL protein concentration. Crystals 
are P21 and easily diffract to beyond 2.0 A on a home source. We 
cryopreserve in ML + 30% glucose. Sulfonamide ligands are easy to soak 
into the crystals in a few minutes during cryopreservation, and provide 
teaching opportunities for protein-ligand model building and refinement.


Cheers,

___
Roger Rowlett
Gordon  Dorothy Kline Professor
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University
13 Oak Drive
Hamilton, NY 13346

tel: (315)-228-7245
ofc: (315)-228-7395
fax: (315)-228-7935
email: rrowl...@colgate.edu

On 02/04/2013 12:31 PM, Jim Pflugrath wrote:

A number of protein crystal recipes are available on the Rigaku web site:
http://www.rigaku.com/products/protein/recipes

Lysozyme is nice because it is so cheap, grows quickly, cryoprotectants in a 
straightforward way, and the unit cells are not large nor are the crystals 
fragile.  One can get triclinic, monoclinic, orthorhombic, and tetragonal 
crystals relatively quickly.

With hen egg white lysozyme if you are not up for sulfur-SAD phasing, then 
co-crystallizing or quick-soaking in iodide (say 100 mM) gives a very nice 
anomalous signal at just about any wavelength.  That is, no need to worry about 
going to a so-called edge.

While there are many other easy-to-go crystals, I have found that none of them 
combine all the properties of hen egg white lysozyme has a good teaching tool.

Jim

==
Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with
cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking
to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it
goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a
citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to
get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful
this group is.  Thank you very much.

Dave


Re: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

2013-02-04 Thread Michael Thompson
Hi Dave,

ProteinaseK is also a good one. Crystallizes rapidly, big crystals, and 
relatively high resolution data (1.0-1.5A) usually. You can also buy the 
lyophilized powder from sigma and prepare the sample directly from the 
commercial material. We use proK for a course here at UCLA, so if you are 
interested I can send you more details about the protocol.

Mike



- Original Message -
From: David Roberts drobe...@depauw.edu
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2013 8:03:09 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [ccp4bb] need some suggestions for crystallization

So, I know I say this every time I post on this board, but here it goes 
again.

I'm at an undergrad only school, and every 2 years I teach a class in 
protein crystallography.  This year I'm being super ambitious, and I'm 
going to take a class of 16 to the synchrotron for data collection.  
It's just an 8 hour thing, to show them the entire process.  I'm hoping 
that we can collect 5-6 good data sets while there.

I would like them to grow their own crystals, and go collect data. Then 
we'd come back and actually do a molecular replacement (pretty 
easy/standard really).  Just to get a feel for how it works.

The protein I do research on is not one that I would push on this, as 
the crystals are hard to grow, they are very soft, and the data just 
isn't the best (resolution issues).  I do have a few that will work on 
my proteins, but I was thinking of having others in the class grow up 
classic proteins for data collection.  Obviously lysozyme is one, but I 
was wondering what other standard bulletproof conditions are out there.

Can you all suggest some protein crystallization conditions (along with 
cryo conditions) for some commercially available proteins?  I'm looking 
to get 6-8 different ones (and we'll just take them and see how it 
goes).  I wouldn't mind knowing unit cell parameters as well (just a 
citation works, I can have them figure it out).  I have about 7 weeks to 
get everything grown and frozen and ready to go.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  It always amazes me how helpful 
this group is.  Thank you very much.

Dave

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Michael C. Thompson

Graduate Student

Biochemistry  Molecular Biology Division

Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry

University of California, Los Angeles

mi...@chem.ucla.edu