[ccp4bb] screen kit

2011-05-26 Thread dengzq1987
hello all,

is there any screen kit that is highly effective for the crystallization of 
protein-nucleic acids complexes?




deng.


Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread Chris Ulens

Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a  
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di- 
hydrogen phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with  
the same ammonium phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to  
30% in the presence of 1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up  
drops (I only tried quick and dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in  
liquid nitrogen).


Thank you.
-Chris


Re: [ccp4bb] Pymol question

2011-05-26 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Maher,

as far as I know pymol uses the APBS (http://www.poissonboltzmann.org) for the
calculations and your question is answered in the FAQ:
http://www.poissonboltzmann.org/apbs/frequently-asked-questions/what-are-the-units-of-electrostatic-potential
(kT/e)

I don't know if this also answers your second question, but you could let us
know in case it does.

Tim

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 03:58:17PM -0700, Maher Alayyoubi wrote:
 Hi everyone, I have two questions:
 
 1- Does anybody know what are the units on the display ruler after you
 calculate the vaccum electrostatics using pymol?
 
 2- What are the default kT/e values used by pymol?
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 
 
 Maher

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Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Chris,
I have not used this particular condition, but as a rule of thumb I use
like with like, e.g. glycerol, ethylene glycol, PEG400 etc. with PEG
conditions, and saltlike compounds (sucrose, xylitol, salts) for salt
conditions. In your case I would try glucose or xylitol or just look
what happens if you increase the ammonium phosphate concentration to say
2M without adding glycerol.

Good luck!
Herman  

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
Chris Ulens
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:27 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate
cryo

Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di-
hydrogen phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with the
same ammonium phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to 30%
in the presence of 1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up drops (I
only tried quick and dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in liquid
nitrogen).

Thank you.
-Chris


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Eleanor Dodson

How very odd!

I have no ideas on the Zn phenonema - what do the R factor plots look 
like against resolution - is there some aberrant reflection which was 
part of the FreeR set?  The theory is that excluding 5% of the data 
should not affect the model seriously at all..



Re the 2nd point. Two things - I would first check that the occupancy is 
actually correct in the file - I have messed that up at times..


And then maps do sometimes have weird pits and peaks - presumably 
related to missing data or imperfect scaling - I guess that could cause 
such a problem in one region of the map..


Eleanor

On 05/26/2011 11:11 AM, Petr Kolenko wrote:

Dear colleagues,

I have two problems in two structure refinements using REFMAC5.

1) 1.8A resolution, zinc in the active site. Refinement using work
reflections - ADP for Zinc was about 14. Final refinement including
all reflections increase ADP to 20 or even higher values - followed by
very high positive difference density in position of the zinc. I have
tried also PHENIX, the same thing. I changed ADP manually to 14 and
only calculated maps (no refinement) look good. May I deposit the
structure using manually fixed ADP according to the best agreement
to the observed and difference electron density? By the way, it is
clear that this is zinc.

2) 1.9A resolution, about 600AA, all of them OK in electron density.
But, somehow, about ten atoms give very strong positive electron
density suggesting they are not taken into account in refinement. On
the other hand, ADPs are reasonable and seem to be refined. All of
these atoms are fully occupied. I tried to omit whole residues and
build them again, but the maxima appeared again. Using of PHENIX
resulted in no difference electron density for these atoms. I have
also tried to take PHENIX output to REFMAC, but the maxima are there
again. It is always one or two atoms from the same residues -
sometimes Calpha, sometimes Cbeta, sometimes C, sometimes NH1, but
still on the same five residues. Does anyone have any idea how to
solve this problem?

Many thanks for any response.

Petr




Re: [ccp4bb] Histogram/Plot of Buried Surface Areas

2011-05-26 Thread Eugene Krissinel
Dear Jacob,

I do not have exactly what you are asking about but some clues.

I am not fond of using buried surface area as an indicator of anything in 
particular and always use energy estimates, however unreliable they may be. In 
J.Comp.Chem. 31(1),133-143, I put a probability plot for PISA to give erroneous 
oligomeric states as a function of complex's free energy (page 141, long-dashed 
line). In page 138, there's a plot showing correlation between free energy (as 
estimated by PISA) and buried surface energy. Combining the two, you may get a 
rough answer to your question :)

Hope this helps,

Eugene.


On 26 May 2011, at 03:41, Jacob Keller wrote:

 Dear Crystallographers,
 
 is anyone aware of a reference or plot addressing buried surface area
 (or PISA output values) versus veracity of a complex? I am trying to
 determine the physiological relevance of a
 crystallographically-observed assembly, and would love to put my PISA
 output in the context of verified complexes versus crystal contacts.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jacob
 
 ***
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 Northwestern University
 Medical Scientist Training Program
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 email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
 ***


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Jürgen Bosch
60% occupied Zn site perhaps ?

Q2 do you have leftover atoms from a previous dual conformation refinement ?
Try deleting the corresponding residues in a texteditor and not coot to ensure 
they are really gone, then rebuild the section into the new diff- map.

Jürgen 
..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Phone: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-3655
http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/

On May 26, 2011, at 6:11, Petr Kolenko kole...@imc.cas.cz wrote:

 Dear colleagues,
 
 I have two problems in two structure refinements using REFMAC5.
 
 1) 1.8A resolution, zinc in the active site. Refinement using work
 reflections - ADP for Zinc was about 14. Final refinement including
 all reflections increase ADP to 20 or even higher values - followed by
 very high positive difference density in position of the zinc. I have
 tried also PHENIX, the same thing. I changed ADP manually to 14 and
 only calculated maps (no refinement) look good. May I deposit the
 structure using manually fixed ADP according to the best agreement
 to the observed and difference electron density? By the way, it is
 clear that this is zinc.
 
 2) 1.9A resolution, about 600AA, all of them OK in electron density.
 But, somehow, about ten atoms give very strong positive electron
 density suggesting they are not taken into account in refinement. On
 the other hand, ADPs are reasonable and seem to be refined. All of
 these atoms are fully occupied. I tried to omit whole residues and
 build them again, but the maxima appeared again. Using of PHENIX
 resulted in no difference electron density for these atoms. I have
 also tried to take PHENIX output to REFMAC, but the maxima are there
 again. It is always one or two atoms from the same residues -
 sometimes Calpha, sometimes Cbeta, sometimes C, sometimes NH1, but
 still on the same five residues. Does anyone have any idea how to
 solve this problem?
 
 Many thanks for any response.
 
 Petr
 
 
 -- 
 Petr Kolenko
 petr.kole...@biochemtech.uni-halle.de
 http://kolda.webz.cz


Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Petr Kolenko
Dear colleagues,

Thanks for the responses. But, Zn occupancy is not an issue. There is
positive maximum, not negative. And Q2, I tried to do it in coot and
also in text editor. Both results were the same. And I double-checked
the line for the atoms in the pdb file for ADP and occupancy.
Regarding to Eleanor Dodson response and imperfect scaling, these
weird peaks would be there after PHENIX refinement as well, or not?

Thanks again.

Petr

2011/5/26 Jürgen Bosch jubo...@jhsph.edu:
 60% occupied Zn site perhaps ?

 Q2 do you have leftover atoms from a previous dual conformation refinement ?
 Try deleting the corresponding residues in a texteditor and not coot to 
 ensure they are really gone, then rebuild the section into the new diff- map.

 Jürgen
 ..
 Jürgen Bosch
 Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
 Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
 Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
 Baltimore, MD 21205
 Phone: +1-410-614-4742
 Lab:      +1-410-614-4894
 Fax:      +1-410-955-3655
 http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/

 On May 26, 2011, at 6:11, Petr Kolenko kole...@imc.cas.cz wrote:

 Dear colleagues,

 I have two problems in two structure refinements using REFMAC5.

 1) 1.8A resolution, zinc in the active site. Refinement using work
 reflections - ADP for Zinc was about 14. Final refinement including
 all reflections increase ADP to 20 or even higher values - followed by
 very high positive difference density in position of the zinc. I have
 tried also PHENIX, the same thing. I changed ADP manually to 14 and
 only calculated maps (no refinement) look good. May I deposit the
 structure using manually fixed ADP according to the best agreement
 to the observed and difference electron density? By the way, it is
 clear that this is zinc.

 2) 1.9A resolution, about 600AA, all of them OK in electron density.
 But, somehow, about ten atoms give very strong positive electron
 density suggesting they are not taken into account in refinement. On
 the other hand, ADPs are reasonable and seem to be refined. All of
 these atoms are fully occupied. I tried to omit whole residues and
 build them again, but the maxima appeared again. Using of PHENIX
 resulted in no difference electron density for these atoms. I have
 also tried to take PHENIX output to REFMAC, but the maxima are there
 again. It is always one or two atoms from the same residues -
 sometimes Calpha, sometimes Cbeta, sometimes C, sometimes NH1, but
 still on the same five residues. Does anyone have any idea how to
 solve this problem?

 Many thanks for any response.

 Petr


 --
 Petr Kolenko
 petr.kole...@biochemtech.uni-halle.de
 http://kolda.webz.cz




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Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Mark J van Raaij
regarding the first question - is it now not much more common to refine only 
against work reflections, and not do a final refinement agains all reflections?
(avoids the problem rather than solve it, I admit)

regarding the second question - if you take the model from refmac and calculate 
a map using that and the original processed dataset (i.e. before it has seen 
refmac), do the peaks also show up?
(I guess you have checked the pdb-file output from refmac carefully in a text 
editor?)

Mark J van Raaij
Laboratorio M-4
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
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On 26 May 2011, at 12:11, Petr Kolenko wrote:

 Dear colleagues,
 
 I have two problems in two structure refinements using REFMAC5.
 
 1) 1.8A resolution, zinc in the active site. Refinement using work
 reflections - ADP for Zinc was about 14. Final refinement including
 all reflections increase ADP to 20 or even higher values - followed by
 very high positive difference density in position of the zinc. I have
 tried also PHENIX, the same thing. I changed ADP manually to 14 and
 only calculated maps (no refinement) look good. May I deposit the
 structure using manually fixed ADP according to the best agreement
 to the observed and difference electron density? By the way, it is
 clear that this is zinc.
 
 2) 1.9A resolution, about 600AA, all of them OK in electron density.
 But, somehow, about ten atoms give very strong positive electron
 density suggesting they are not taken into account in refinement. On
 the other hand, ADPs are reasonable and seem to be refined. All of
 these atoms are fully occupied. I tried to omit whole residues and
 build them again, but the maxima appeared again. Using of PHENIX
 resulted in no difference electron density for these atoms. I have
 also tried to take PHENIX output to REFMAC, but the maxima are there
 again. It is always one or two atoms from the same residues -
 sometimes Calpha, sometimes Cbeta, sometimes C, sometimes NH1, but
 still on the same five residues. Does anyone have any idea how to
 solve this problem?
 
 Many thanks for any response.
 
 Petr
 
 
 -- 
 Petr Kolenko
 petr.kole...@biochemtech.uni-halle.de
 http://kolda.webz.cz


Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread Kristof Van Hecke

Dear Chris,

Indeed,. according to McFerrin and Snell, 2002, Appl. Crystallogr.,
they recommend 30%(v/v) PEG400, or 35% EG (ethlylene glycol) or 30%  
PG (propylene glycol)

However, they also mention the use of 35% (v/v) glycerol.

regards

Kristof

On 26 May 2011, at 13:01, herman.schreu...@sanofi-aventis.com wrote:


Dear Chris,
I have not used this particular condition, but as a rule of thumb I  
use

like with like, e.g. glycerol, ethylene glycol, PEG400 etc. with PEG
conditions, and saltlike compounds (sucrose, xylitol, salts) for salt
conditions. In your case I would try glucose or xylitol or just look
what happens if you increase the ammonium phosphate concentration  
to say

2M without adding glycerol.

Good luck!
Herman

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
Chris Ulens
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:27 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate
cryo

Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di-
hydrogen phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with  
the

same ammonium phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to 30%
in the presence of 1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up drops (I
only tried quick and dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in liquid
nitrogen).

Thank you.
-Chris


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Re: [ccp4bb] Problems in refinement

2011-05-26 Thread Garib N Murshudov
If you are using TLS refinement the please check TLS definitions.It may be that 
atoms for which you have positive density are not in TLS definitions.
Try to use without TLS.

regards
Garib

On 26 May 2011, at 11:11, Petr Kolenko wrote:

 Dear colleagues,
 
 I have two problems in two structure refinements using REFMAC5.
 
 1) 1.8A resolution, zinc in the active site. Refinement using work
 reflections - ADP for Zinc was about 14. Final refinement including
 all reflections increase ADP to 20 or even higher values - followed by
 very high positive difference density in position of the zinc. I have
 tried also PHENIX, the same thing. I changed ADP manually to 14 and
 only calculated maps (no refinement) look good. May I deposit the
 structure using manually fixed ADP according to the best agreement
 to the observed and difference electron density? By the way, it is
 clear that this is zinc.
 
 2) 1.9A resolution, about 600AA, all of them OK in electron density.
 But, somehow, about ten atoms give very strong positive electron
 density suggesting they are not taken into account in refinement. On
 the other hand, ADPs are reasonable and seem to be refined. All of
 these atoms are fully occupied. I tried to omit whole residues and
 build them again, but the maxima appeared again. Using of PHENIX
 resulted in no difference electron density for these atoms. I have
 also tried to take PHENIX output to REFMAC, but the maxima are there
 again. It is always one or two atoms from the same residues -
 sometimes Calpha, sometimes Cbeta, sometimes C, sometimes NH1, but
 still on the same five residues. Does anyone have any idea how to
 solve this problem?
 
 Many thanks for any response.
 
 Petr
 
 
 -- 
 Petr Kolenko
 petr.kole...@biochemtech.uni-halle.de
 http://kolda.webz.cz


Re: [ccp4bb] {**SPAM**} [ccp4bb] screen kit

2011-05-26 Thread Kushol Gupta
The screen described here might be worth checking out as well:

Crystallization of bFGF-DNA aptamer complexes using a Sparse Matrix designed
for protein-nucleic acid complexes
Jamie J. Cannone, , Cindy L. Barnes, , Aniruddha Achari,  and Craig E.
Kundrot , 
Journal of Crystal Growth
Volume 232, Issues 1-4, November 2001, Pages 409-417

Kushol

Kushol Gupta, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Van Duyne Laboratory - HHMI/Univ. of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
kgu...@mail.med.upenn.edu
215-573-7260 / 267-259-0082
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Vellieux Frederic
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:55 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] {**SPAM**} [ccp4bb] screen kit

Hi,

Hampton research claims that their Natrix series of screening kits is 
designed for nucleid acid and nucleic acid/protein complexes.

http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=1sid=27pid=8

Fred.

dengzq1987 wrote:
 hello all,
  
 is there any screen kit that is highly effective for the 
 crystallization of protein-nucleic acids complexes?
  
  
  
  
 deng.


Re: [ccp4bb] Pymol question

2011-05-26 Thread Xiaoguang Xue
Firstly, I think in Pymol there is no true electrostatic potential
calculator, but only a charge-smoothed surface presentation (
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Protein_contact_potential).

So, If you want to calculate the real electrostatic potential in Pymol (by
Possion-Boltzman method), you have to install a plugin such as APBS or
Delphi.

Personally, I prefer Delphi, because there is a good and simple tutorial
written by James Stroud from USC (
http://structure.usc.edu/howto/delphi-surface-pymol.html). And you also can
read the man page of Delphi where describe the details how it works (
http://wiki.c2b2.columbia.edu/honiglab_public/index.php/Software:DelPhi).

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.dewrote:

 Dear Maher,

 as far as I know pymol uses the APBS (http://www.poissonboltzmann.org) for
 the
 calculations and your question is answered in the FAQ:

 http://www.poissonboltzmann.org/apbs/frequently-asked-questions/what-are-the-units-of-electrostatic-potential
 (kT/e)

 I don't know if this also answers your second question, but you could let
 us
 know in case it does.

 Tim

 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 03:58:17PM -0700, Maher Alayyoubi wrote:
  Hi everyone, I have two questions:
 
  1- Does anybody know what are the units on the display ruler after you
  calculate the vaccum electrostatics using pymol?
 
  2- What are the default kT/e values used by pymol?
 
  Thank you,
 
 
 
 
  Maher

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Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread Jim Pflugrath
I always try sugars for everything.  There is a cryocrystallography webinar
at rigaku.com with embedded videos on how to do this.  50% to 100% saturated
sugar (sucrose, glucose, trehalose, sorbitol, et al.) in reservoir buffer is
usually what I try. :)

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Chris
Ulens
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:27 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di- hydrogen
phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with the same ammonium
phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to 30% in the presence of
1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up drops (I only tried quick and
dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in liquid nitrogen).

Thank you.
-Chris


Re: [ccp4bb] Histogram/Plot of Buried Surface Areas

2011-05-26 Thread Kushol Gupta
Hi Jacob - 

These references might(?) be helpful:

Proteins. 1995 Dec;23(4):580-7. Protein-protein interaction at crystal
contacts. Janin J, Rodier F.
J Mol Biol. 2004 Feb 27;336(4):943-55. A dissection of specific and
non-specific protein-protein interfaces. Bahadur RP, Chakrabarti P, Rodier
F, Janin J.
Proteins. 2005 Jul 1;60(1):36-45. Hydration of protein-protein interfaces.
Rodier F, Bahadur RP, Chakrabarti P, Janin J.

The problem you describe is a tricky one - crystal packing can be deceiving.
Complementing your structural studies with some biophysical measurements
(ie: comparing computed hydrodynamic properties to those observed in gel
filtration or centrifugation or SAXS or the like) could help flesh out these
types of questions. 

Hope this helps,

Kushol

Kushol Gupta, Ph.D.
Research Associate
Van Duyne Laboratory - HHMI/Univ. of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
kgu...@mail.med.upenn.edu
215-573-7260 / 267-259-0082


-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Jacob
Keller
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:42 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Histogram/Plot of Buried Surface Areas

Dear Crystallographers,

is anyone aware of a reference or plot addressing buried surface area
(or PISA output values) versus veracity of a complex? I am trying to
determine the physiological relevance of a
crystallographically-observed assembly, and would love to put my PISA
output in the context of verified complexes versus crystal contacts.

Thanks,

Jacob

***
Jacob Pearson Keller
Northwestern University
Medical Scientist Training Program
cel: 773.608.9185
email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu
***


Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread R. M. Garavito

Chris,

As others have said, using sugars as cryoprotectants is a good first  
choice.  However, we have run into problems freezing crystals with  
sugars when the primarily crystallization reagent is a salt at high  
concentrations (0.8-2M).  Although 0.4M ammonium phosphate, is not  
particularly high, you might try ammonium formate or sodium malonate,  
sometimes even sodium citrate works (1.0-1.2 M).  My worry about any  
crystals grown in phosphate is that the phosphate anion may be crucial  
to crystals growth, and its displacement by like ions (sulfate) may be  
detrimental.   If it is not in your case, you might also try lithium  
sulfate.  We have used mixtures of sodium citrate and lithium sulfate  
to freeze crystals grown in 0.8 M sodium citrate.


One other point is that sometimes the crystals need to have a bit of  
the cryoprotectant as a component of crystallization.  I have seen  
cases where crystals could not be transferred into glycerol, but  
adding 1-3% glycerol to the crystallization mix yielded crystals that  
could be transferred into glycerol for freezing.


You have a lot more options to try, but a drop on a coverslip may not  
be the best way to test freezing.  Proper freezing depends on having  
maximal heat transfer, sometimes that can be defeated by having  
large heat reservoirs (i.e., big drops and the big coverslip) and  
insulators (i.e., glass coverslips).  Freezing works because the  
objects size (drop and crystal) is small enough to allow rapid and  
relatively isotropic heat transfer.  We alway use a slightly larger  
loop to test our cryoprotectants.


When using ammonium phosphate, watch out for the formation of struvite  
(NH4MgPO4), a type of kidney stone.  They are lovely looking (often  
octahedral) crystals that easily grow in ammonium phosphate; although  
magnesium phosphate can be soluble up to ~12 mM, the presence of  
ammonium markedly increases the formation of struvite, even with  
micromolar (contaminating) concentrations of magnesium.


Cheers,

Michael



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Of Chris

Ulens
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:27 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen  
phosphate cryo


Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di-  
hydrogen
phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with the same  
ammonium
phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to 30% in the  
presence of
1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up drops (I only tried quick  
and

dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in liquid nitrogen).

Thank you.
-Chris




Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate cryo

2011-05-26 Thread Enrico Stura

Chris,

Crystals can be very tollerant of cryo-solutions that respect the degree  
of hydration

of the lattice. You can use any cryo-solution you want, including oil.
Try 10% Di-ethylene glycol, 10% 1.2-propanediol, 10% glycerol, 10% PEG  
10K, 10% buffer solution, 1M NaCl

(pH close to  the one you use now; slightly higher or lower may help).
1M NaCl should provide enough ionic strength for the duration of the  
cryo-soak

to prevent the crystals from dissolving.
Test one crystal in this solution. If the crystals crack reduce the PEG  
10K concentration

if they dissolve increase the NaCl concentration or try:
Try 8% Di-ethylene glycol, 8% 1.2-propanediol, 8% glycerol, 8% PEG 10K, 8%  
MPD  10% buffer solution,  1M NaCl.


As already suggested cryosalts may work, but  Ammonium di-hydrogen  
phosphate 0.4M is on the low side
as far as ionic strength is concerned and if the crystals are very big  
they are likely to crack. No problems

if you have needles or smallish crystals.

Enrico.


On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:01:08 +0200, herman.schreu...@sanofi-aventis.com  
wrote:



Dear Chris,
I have not used this particular condition, but as a rule of thumb I use
like with like, e.g. glycerol, ethylene glycol, PEG400 etc. with PEG
conditions, and saltlike compounds (sucrose, xylitol, salts) for salt
conditions. In your case I would try glucose or xylitol or just look
what happens if you increase the ammonium phosphate concentration to say
2M without adding glycerol.

Good luck!
Herman

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
Chris Ulens
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:27 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] recommendation for ammonium dihydrogen phosphate
cryo

Hi,
I would like to get recommendations for a proper cryo solution for a
crystallization hit from the Hampton crystal screen Ammonium di-
hydrogen phosphate 0.4M. I tried increasing glycerol up to 30% with the
same ammonium phosphate concentration or increasing glycerol up to 30%
in the presence of 1.3M ammonium phosphate. Both gave iced up drops (I
only tried quick and dirty tests by dipping a cover glass in liquid
nitrogen).

Thank you.
-Chris



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[ccp4bb] Hydrophobic protein surface and SDS page

2011-05-26 Thread Debajyoti Dutta

Dear All,

Sorry for the off topic question.
I am purifying one protein which is showing increased molecular weight +5kDa 
(more than adding up the Hexa His and cloning artifact) in normal 12% SDS PAGE. 
The DNA sequence is as it is. The gel runs without blurring the lanes and 
without any difficulties. My protein may contains hydrophobic patches, does it 
may cause retard migration.

Please help me suggesting the possible reason of increased molecular weight. 
Thank you for your kind suggestions.

Sincerely,

Debajyoti

 

Re: [ccp4bb] Hydrophobic protein surface and SDS page

2011-05-26 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Debajyoti,

Migration of proteins in SDS containing gels is dependent on hydrophobicity,
the amount of SDS that your protein binds (despite the fact that in theory
all proteins should behave the same way under these conditions) and charge.
Highly basic or acidic proteins will migrate anomalously, thermophilic
proteins (which are usually more highly charged and hydrophobic) also tend
to migrate anomalously..membrane proteins also because they usually tend to
interact differently with the detergent; it is not unusual to observe stable
non-covalent homo-oligomers of membrane proteins even in an SDS-PAGE gel.
Phosphorylation and glycosylation will also affect the apparent MW as
estimated from the SDS-PAGE experiment.

What you observe is not unusual at all.

If you want to be sure of your MW, Mass Spec will tell you what you want to
know.

Hope this helps, good luck

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[ccp4bb] Structural Biologist/Protein Biochemist position at Heptares Therapeutics Ltd.

2011-05-26 Thread joao dias
We are looking for an outstanding Structural Biologist/Protein
Biochemist for our group at Heptares Therapeutics Ltd.

 

Heptares is a Drug Discovery Company located in Hertfordshire UK,
working on G protein coupled receptors involved in CNS and metabolic
disease. We are using a unique structure based approach, which
originated from work at the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology in
Cambridge, to characterise this important family of receptors and
develop novel innovative therapeutics for these diseases. 

We are now seeking enthusiastic and motivated scientists with experience
in the expression, purification and crystallisation of proteins to
assist Heptares in obtaining unique structures of GPCRs for drug
discovery. This is an exceptional opportunity to participate in
pioneering science whilst helping to grow an Industry-leading Drug
Discovery company. 

Applicants should have a PhD and post-graduate experience in a research
environment. Candidates should be familiar with protein expression and
purification in a variety of expression systems such as E.coli,
baculovirus and mammalian cells. We also wish to recruit candidates with
experience in protein crystallisation who are interested in following
proteins through purification to structural studies. Previous experience
of working with GPCRs or other membrane proteins would be an advantage.
Experience of working in a drug discovery environment where structural
studies are used to drive medicinal chemistry would also be of benefit. 

 

Further information can be found on our website (www.heptares.com).

 

To apply for this position, please send your application to
h...@heptares.com, quoting reference number 2011/1B

 

Best wishes,

 

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Senior Scientist

Heptares Therapeutics Ltd

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[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Position in Structural Biology Computing, Boston, MA

2011-05-26 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
Hi!

There is an immediate opening for a computationally-minded structural
biology post-doc in the Sliz Group at Harvard Medical School in Boston, MA
working in support of the SBGrid Consortium.

The SBGrid Consortium is a non-profit service center of Harvard Medical
School developed to support the computing needs of structural biology labs
across the world. The software distribution we support contains more than
225 scientific software applications for Linux and OS X and is integrated
into an easy to use shell environment. It is used by more than 1000
researchers in our 150+ member labs. 

This sort of scientific software is mostly written by academics to scratch
their own itch, and it often comes as source code with little documentation
on how to build and configure it to do something useful[1]. The software is
written in a polyglot of languages (Fortran, C, C++, Python, Java, Perl,
Tcl/Tk and many sh/csh scripts) and built with any one of a number of
different build systems (autotools, cmake, scons, homebrew shell
scripts/makefiles, setuptools, etc).

The primary responsibilities of the position will be installing and
configuring structural biology software for use in the Consortium
laboratories as well as providing first level support for software users.
There may also be opportunities to work on our NSF-funded project to
develop grid portals for computationally demanding structural biology work
flows. The exact duties of the position will be dependent on your
qualifications.

The ideal candidate will have a background in structural biology and a
particular interest in the software, methods and computational requirements
of structural biology computing.  You should have some knowledge of Python
and shell scripting or a strong desire to learn.

Interested candidates should email a cover letter, CV, publications list,
and names and contact information for three references to Dr. Piotr Sliz.
ps...@hkl.hms.harvard.edu

-ben

[1] CCP4 being the obvious exception!

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Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 25 May 2011 to 26 May 2011 (#2011-146)

2011-05-26 Thread Geoffrey Feld
Two topics today...

1) Problem with LIBCHECK.

Thanks to all who replied to my issue. I was able to resolve the issue
before the flurry of responses came in. Basically, I took my CSA modified
amino acid, aligned it as best I could to the CYS (especially at the CA),
and then manually edited the PDB file to include the new CSA atoms from CB
onward, leaving the backbone as the CYS atoms, and changing all the residue
names to CSA. Of course, this meant that the CSA sidechain was in no-man's
land, but anyway, refined it in PHENIX restraining the distance from the
terminal carbon and the sulfur of the crosslink partner to 1.83 +/- 0.05 A,
and let 'er rip, including the .cif file for CSA in the monomer library in
my .def file. The output was good enough to refine manually, and I'm happy
with the results.

2) re: problems in refinement

Petr,

I second Pavel's recommendations. Furthermore, in your second case with the
positive difference density for residues that seem to be refined well, I had
something like this happen for me, although at much lower (3.1 A)
resolution. I fixed it by making those trouble residues a TLS group and
refining with TLS in PHENIX. After one round of refinement, the problem was
fixed and I was able to remove TLS from the refinement strategy.

Hope it helps,
Geoff

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