[cctalk] Re: Found the DSM orange manual
Hello, Unfortunately I’m in California so I wouldn’t be of much help. However, I can certainly contribute money. Tommy Chang Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2023, at 12:42 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Okies. Another unique thingie in my life, need to get it out there. > > So any suggestions on companies that can do the scans in or around Baltimore > MD? I'd do it for endless beer privileges at future meets/get togethers :-) > > CZ > >> On 6/29/2023 11:42 PM, Tommy Chang wrote: >> Hello, >> >> As a MUMPS programmer, I would definitely be interested… A former boss lent >> me his copy once. I should have scanned it. >> >> Tommy Chang >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 28, 2023, at 2:37 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> Well, it's huge. As in totally fills a large DEC binder. Seems to have the >>> following: >>> >>> Introduction to DSM >>> >>> Language reference >>> >>> User's Guide >>> >>> XDT reference >>> >>> Release Notes >>> >>> Would go well with that copy of DSM I have imaged on an RD52 drive. >>> >>> So does anyone in MD have access to a faster scanner than mine (Pixma 870)? >>> >>> CZ >>> On 6/28/2023 5:29 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Jun 28, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk >> wrote: > While looking for my RSX11 DECNET manual (because the online version > doesn't have any examples of commands which is why you look in the manual > in the first place) I found a copy of the DSM binder AA-K676B-TK and ilk. > > Is this online or does anyone else have it? It sure doesn't seem to be on-line. In fact, Googling that document number produces exactly one hit (another DEC document which mentions this document in the text). Getting that scanned would be neat. paul
[cctalk] Re: Any RSX-11 fans able to identify file types?
List, I finally got around to cutting some Linux code to handle the RX50 BRU sets. Since the disks date from 1986, I prefer to work with images. Basically, you extract BACKUP.SYS files from the each of the set of disks. For sake of simplicity, rename the BACKUP.SYS files 1 2 3 4... The run brudump dest-dir 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.. Brudump checks the backup sequence and creates the files from the backup and stashes them in dest-dir. Linux x86_64 Debian 5-10-179 was used, but should run well on most recent distros. If you need this, let me know. Cheers, Chuck
[cctalk] Re: Found the DSM orange manual
I'm in the western suburbs of Chicago but if the manual is unbound (3 ring or 18 hole cerlock) where the pages will fit into a document feeder I have a Xerox copier/printer/scanner that can do double sided scanning. You pay postage both ways, I am happy to scan it for you. Mike On 6/30/2023 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jun 30, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Okies. Another unique thingie in my life, need to get it out there. So any suggestions on companies that can do the scans in or around Baltimore MD? I'd do it for endless beer privileges at future meets/get togethers :-) CZ I've used scanning services at Staples. In my case, large format scanning, but I think the store I went to also had a letter size scanner with a feeder. Another possibility would be to find someone nearby interested in helping who works at a company that uses modern copiers/scanners/fax machines. Copiers are often "digital copiers" which means they are actually a scanner feeding a printer, and "scan to USB stick" tends to be one of the features. Those will scan at typical office copier speeds. Some will do the job in color, if you need that. paul
[cctalk] Oh Q-Bus, you can be a fickle mistress at times....
So I had a fellow list member show up and trade me an AUI cable for reading some of his old RX01/02 disks to see if there was anything on them. Not a big deal, TALOS (my 11/83) has pretty much everything: 11/83 CPU board with FPJ11 MSV11-QD card with 4mb memory (lots o' disk cache) RXV21 plus RX02 drive RLV12 plus two RL02 drives (and an RL01 in a pinch) TQK70 and TK70 tape drive DELQA Ethernet DZQ11 4 port serial board And the MTI ESDI disk controller with a 330mb half height ESDI disk Overall it's a pretty fast and solid system. I have RT11 on DU4:, RSXM+ on DU0:, and plenty of power to do anything. However when we fired it up we got nothing on the terminal. Great. So I went to TITAN, which is another BA23 equipped 11/73 with: 11/73-B board wo FPJ11 2mb memory (Datamation) TQK70+TK50 (my other TK70 doesn't write properly for some God unknown reason) DEQNA Ethernet (it works) DHV11 8 port serial board That odd little 3016 real time clock board I never seem to get around to loading drivers for RQDX3 jumpered for RD54 running RSX11M+ (not bad with cache) 20mb HH drive with XXDP+ utils 40mb HH drive with RT11 5.4 all drivers (last version that supports the TU58) That worked, we were able to move over the RXV21 and read the disks, but I was wondering what was wrong with my main system. So after he left I pulled it apart. Problem seems to be the MTI card was not booting up properly, and since it holds the Q bus in a frozen state until the disk spins to ready it was blocking the system. Pulled it, cleaned the pins with 1500 grit sandpaper, put it back in, it now works. Great. So every once in awhile I guess I have to check the pins on these old 11's. They run well and are starting to be used more, but they still have weird problems from time to time. CZ
[cctalk] Re: Found the DSM orange manual
> On Jun 30, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Okies. Another unique thingie in my life, need to get it out there. > > So any suggestions on companies that can do the scans in or around Baltimore > MD? I'd do it for endless beer privileges at future meets/get togethers :-) > > CZ I've used scanning services at Staples. In my case, large format scanning, but I think the store I went to also had a letter size scanner with a feeder. Another possibility would be to find someone nearby interested in helping who works at a company that uses modern copiers/scanners/fax machines. Copiers are often "digital copiers" which means they are actually a scanner feeding a printer, and "scan to USB stick" tends to be one of the features. Those will scan at typical office copier speeds. Some will do the job in color, if you need that. paul
[cctalk] Re: Found the DSM orange manual
Okies. Another unique thingie in my life, need to get it out there. So any suggestions on companies that can do the scans in or around Baltimore MD? I'd do it for endless beer privileges at future meets/get togethers :-) CZ On 6/29/2023 11:42 PM, Tommy Chang wrote: Hello, As a MUMPS programmer, I would definitely be interested… A former boss lent me his copy once. I should have scanned it. Tommy Chang Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2023, at 2:37 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Well, it's huge. As in totally fills a large DEC binder. Seems to have the following: Introduction to DSM Language reference User's Guide XDT reference Release Notes Would go well with that copy of DSM I have imaged on an RD52 drive. So does anyone in MD have access to a faster scanner than mine (Pixma 870)? CZ On 6/28/2023 5:29 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jun 28, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: While looking for my RSX11 DECNET manual (because the online version doesn't have any examples of commands which is why you look in the manual in the first place) I found a copy of the DSM binder AA-K676B-TK and ilk. Is this online or does anyone else have it? It sure doesn't seem to be on-line. In fact, Googling that document number produces exactly one hit (another DEC document which mentions this document in the text). Getting that scanned would be neat. paul
[cctalk] Re: IMSAI BASIC PROM set?
On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 3:12 AM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 6/29/23 21:39, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > So I was able to get the listing for the PROMs by using the HEX file of > > IMSAI BASIC 1.4 from.Rich Cini's website. I was able to then pull the > > Intel papertape file image using Teraterm to capture the log of the > session > > while using to load BASIC into the IMSAI. I can use the log to make an > > ePROM-friendly file. > > > > Imsai 8K basic fills ..1FDB and stores programs from 2000, so you > need > > some RAM after IFFFh (8K). > > > > My IMSAI has an IMSAI SIO serial card. > > > > Bill > > > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 8:36 AM Bill Degnan wrote: > > > > > > for those who come by 5 years from now, hopefully these links work: > Basic Listing: > http://cini.classiccmp.org/pdf/Imsai/Imsai%208K%20Basic.pdf > This seems to have the hex images: > http://cini.classiccmp.org/zips/IMSAI%20BASICs.zip > > I know there's a bit of a fuss about archive . org but they don't seem > to have most of the useful data in the Richard Cini pages slurped up. > Will see if that can be remedied. I'd like such things if they can > inhale them to be there in case something happens to the classiccmp . > org servers. > > thanks > Jim > I don't remember the exact story but Dan Roganti I think had something to do with assembling or at least mirroring the images. He made the original eProm set we were playing with back in the 2000's.. Dan hosted his copy and site on Bob Applegates old TwoCows-hosted web site applegate.org. That server went down and everything lost with itI always thought *I* had a copy hosted on vintagecomputer.netyou never know until you need it. So, yes it would be nice if there were more copies of a pretty historic program than just Rich's site, as reliable as it appears to have been. I will upload a copy to vintagecomputer.net/imsai/ (for future person) Bill
[cctalk] Re: Found the DSM orange manual
Okies. Another unique thingie in my life, need to get it out there. So any suggestions on companies that can do the scans in or around Baltimore MD? I'd do it for endless beer privileges at future meets/get togethers :-) CZ On 6/29/2023 11:42 PM, Tommy Chang wrote: Hello, As a MUMPS programmer, I would definitely be interested… A former boss lent me his copy once. I should have scanned it. Tommy Chang Sent from my iPhone On Jun 28, 2023, at 2:37 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Well, it's huge. As in totally fills a large DEC binder. Seems to have the following: Introduction to DSM Language reference User's Guide XDT reference Release Notes Would go well with that copy of DSM I have imaged on an RD52 drive. So does anyone in MD have access to a faster scanner than mine (Pixma 870)? CZ On 6/28/2023 5:29 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Jun 28, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: While looking for my RSX11 DECNET manual (because the online version doesn't have any examples of commands which is why you look in the manual in the first place) I found a copy of the DSM binder AA-K676B-TK and ilk. Is this online or does anyone else have it? It sure doesn't seem to be on-line. In fact, Googling that document number produces exactly one hit (another DEC document which mentions this document in the text). Getting that scanned would be neat. paul
[cctalk] Re: IMSAI BASIC PROM set?
On 6/29/23 21:39, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: So I was able to get the listing for the PROMs by using the HEX file of IMSAI BASIC 1.4 from.Rich Cini's website. I was able to then pull the Intel papertape file image using Teraterm to capture the log of the session while using to load BASIC into the IMSAI. I can use the log to make an ePROM-friendly file. Imsai 8K basic fills ..1FDB and stores programs from 2000, so you need some RAM after IFFFh (8K). My IMSAI has an IMSAI SIO serial card. Bill On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 8:36 AM Bill Degnan wrote: for those who come by 5 years from now, hopefully these links work: Basic Listing: http://cini.classiccmp.org/pdf/Imsai/Imsai%208K%20Basic.pdf This seems to have the hex images: http://cini.classiccmp.org/zips/IMSAI%20BASICs.zip I know there's a bit of a fuss about archive . org but they don't seem to have most of the useful data in the Richard Cini pages slurped up. Will see if that can be remedied. I'd like such things if they can inhale them to be there in case something happens to the classiccmp . org servers. thanks Jim
