Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Richard
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 Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
 libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.

 Sorry, just checked. It looks to be in cr.

 So... the right thing to do for someone who just wants to update a
 system today would be???

 Probably depends on your view of CR. Here's the announcement for it
 the other day:

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-March/020980.html

 I updated a machine the other day with a combination of CR and
 epel-testing (key MATE things were there still) and it seems fine,
 though I haven't tested it heavily yet. The epel things that were in
 -testing may have moved to epel base by now.


It's not so much a matter of having a view of CR as that I didn't
expect things to appear in EPEL that depend on base versions that
aren't in general release yet.  Is that intentional, and don't some
number of people have to approve something before it gets out of
epel-testing?  Does everyone else have cr enabled?

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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/26/2015 04:05 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 Does anyone know what's up with:
 
 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)
 
 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?
 

EPEL is built against RHEL, not CentOS (I am fairly certain).



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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/26/2015 04:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Richard
 lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:

 Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
 libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.

 Sorry, just checked. It looks to be in cr.

 So... the right thing to do for someone who just wants to update a
 system today would be???

 Probably depends on your view of CR. Here's the announcement for it
 the other day:

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-March/020980.html

 I updated a machine the other day with a combination of CR and
 epel-testing (key MATE things were there still) and it seems fine,
 though I haven't tested it heavily yet. The epel things that were in
 -testing may have moved to epel base by now.

 
 It's not so much a matter of having a view of CR as that I didn't
 expect things to appear in EPEL that depend on base versions that
 aren't in general release yet.  Is that intentional, and don't some
 number of people have to approve something before it gets out of
 epel-testing?  Does everyone else have cr enabled?
 

See my other post to this list.  EPEL is written for and built against
RHEL, which is on 7.1.  You will either have to wait until we release
our 7.1, use CR or buy RHEL.



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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/26/2015 05:01 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:

 It's not so much a matter of having a view of CR as that I didn't
 expect things to appear in EPEL that depend on base versions that
 aren't in general release yet.  Is that intentional, and don't some
 number of people have to approve something before it gets out of
 epel-testing?  Does everyone else have cr enabled?


 See my other post to this list.  EPEL is written for and built against
 RHEL, which is on 7.1.  You will either have to wait until we release
 our 7.1, use CR or buy RHEL.
 
 That makes sense - but it also makes it an ongoing issue for Centos
 users to expect.  It's not a serious problem for me, but it would be a
 bad first experience with CentOS if someone tries to install a system
 with MATE Desktop today.
 

I understand that and believe me, we are working on the next release of
CentOS as fast as we can.  But, it takes time and I have no control over
what they build EPEL against OR when they release things in it.

We are testing what we hope is our final tree right now in QA ..
hopefully we will have a release in the next couple of days.



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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:

 It's not so much a matter of having a view of CR as that I didn't
 expect things to appear in EPEL that depend on base versions that
 aren't in general release yet.  Is that intentional, and don't some
 number of people have to approve something before it gets out of
 epel-testing?  Does everyone else have cr enabled?


 See my other post to this list.  EPEL is written for and built against
 RHEL, which is on 7.1.  You will either have to wait until we release
 our 7.1, use CR or buy RHEL.

That makes sense - but it also makes it an ongoing issue for Centos
users to expect.  It's not a serious problem for me, but it would be a
bad first experience with CentOS if someone tries to install a system
with MATE Desktop today.

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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Richard


 Original Message 
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 16:32:12 -0500
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Richard
 lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:
 
 
  Original Message 
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 16:18:45 -0500
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Richard
 lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone know what's up with:
 
 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)
 
 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?
 
 
 Check epel-testing, that's where it (still) was a few days ago I
 believe. [I don't have my C7 laptop on so can't confirm things
 quickly.]
 
 
 Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
 libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.
 
 Sorry, just checked. It looks to be in cr.
 
 So... the right thing to do for someone who just wants to update a
 system today would be???

Probably depends on your view of CR. Here's the announcement for it
the other day:

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2015-March/020980.html

I updated a machine the other day with a combination of CR and
epel-testing (key MATE things were there still) and it seems fine,
though I haven't tested it heavily yet. The epel things that were in
-testing may have moved to epel base by now.




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[CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
Does anyone know what's up with:

Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
   Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)

Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?

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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Richard


 Original Message 
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 16:05:16 -0500
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS centos@centos.org
 Subject: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

 Does anyone know what's up with:
 
 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)
 
 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?


Check epel-testing, that's where it (still) was a few days ago I
believe. [I don't have my C7 laptop on so can't confirm things
quickly.]

   - Richard


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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Richard
lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:


 Does anyone know what's up with:

 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)

 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?


 Check epel-testing, that's where it (still) was a few days ago I
 believe. [I don't have my C7 laptop on so can't confirm things
 quickly.]


Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.

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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Richard


 Original Message 
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 16:18:45 -0500
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Richard
 lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:
 
 
 Does anyone know what's up with:
 
 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)
 
 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?
 
 
 Check epel-testing, that's where it (still) was a few days ago I
 believe. [I don't have my C7 laptop on so can't confirm things
 quickly.]
 
 
 Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
 libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.

Sorry, just checked. It looks to be in cr.


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Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

2015-03-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Richard
lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:


  Original Message 
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2015 16:18:45 -0500
 From: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Cc:
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] MATE desktop dependency?

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Richard
 lists-cen...@listmail.innovate.net wrote:


 Does anyone know what's up with:

 Error: Package: marco-1.8.3-1.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit)

 Isn't the EPEL package built against stock Centos?


 Check epel-testing, that's where it (still) was a few days ago I
 believe. [I don't have my C7 laptop on so can't confirm things
 quickly.]


 Thanks, but it doesn't help to --enablerepo=epel-testing.   The
 libgtop2 package should be from the base repo anyway.

 Sorry, just checked. It looks to be in cr.

So... the right thing to do for someone who just wants to update a
system today would be???

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