Getting WOT: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Matt Robertson

Of course you're right... email can be faked. So can anything on paper --
and almost as easily.  The objective is to perform a duty of care/due
diligence without getting fired. The correct answer is going to be to move
thru existing, documentable channels (whatever they are) without becoming a
nail that sticks up and subsequently gets hammered down.

--Matt--

- Original Message -
From: "Craig Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: legal question?



Umm if you are going to do a CYA memo -- do it on paper.  How well do you
think the email I've "forwarded" would stand up?? Oh and it would be trivial
to make the logs look like I'd received it...

(Note: This email is fake!!(speaking of CYA))
-Original Message-
From: President Bill Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2001 6:04 PM
To: Craig Fisher
Subject: Thanks and a surprise.

Craig:

Thanks for being such a great guy and a swell American.  I am so excited to
have you living here the States that I am excusing you from federal income
taxes for the 100 years.  Enjoy it man!

Your Friend,

William Jefferson Clinton
The President of United States of America
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Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP

2001-08-09 Thread Howie Hamlin


- Original Message -
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP


> Howie,
>
> When a client such as Outlook Express retrieves messages or headers from a
> POP server, does it download all available mail headers, or is there
> somethin in the POP protocol that allows the client to say "only send me all
> messages in the mailbox after X"?
>

A typical pop transaction is:

- user connects
- user authenticates

at this point the transaction depends on the particular client (outlook, eudora, etc) 
but, basically, the pop client needs a list of
waiting mail.  It can use the LIST or UIDL for this.

Once the client has the list it then proceeds to download and delete each one in turn.

Example:

list
+OK 2 23456
retr 1
--- mail is received here ---
dele 1
retr 2
--- mail is received here ---
dele 2
quit

In the example above, the user had 2 messages totalling 23,456 bytes.

Now, some clients can do some fancy things with the UIDL command (this provides a list 
of unique identifiers for the mail on the pop
server).  Using the uidl you can keep track of messages without actually deleting them 
from the server.

You could also retrieve the headers from each waiting mail and then decode the date 
header for each and retrieve only those for a
certain date range.  This is not the easiest thing to do (parsing the date header can 
be a chore).  However, the most important
thing to remember about the pop protocol is that it was designed to be a message 
download mechanism and not a way to manage emails
on the server.

> In CF 5, has Macromedia enhanced the CFPOP tag to allow it to identify
> messages on the server using the server's unique message id?  This
> shortcoming seems to me to keep a developer from writing a robust web mail
> application using CFPOP.
>

Actually, getting the unique ID opens up things for you - you can keep track of the 
individual messages on the pop server that way.

A small example:

The web mail connects to the server (user has no current web mail messages).  The 
server gives a list of two waiting mails with
unique IDs of 100 and 101.  So, you download these with pop but do not delete them (so 
they are still on the server).  The user now
has a copy of the messages in the web mail client.  Later on, you get a list of 4 
messages: 100, 101, 150, 151.  Now, since you have
the first two already, you download the last two.

In this way you are not deleting the messages from the pop server.  A user on the road 
could read messages but still have them when
he gets back to the office.  You can also delete the messages from the server if the 
user opts to from the web mail client.

HTH,

Howie


> Jim
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP
>
>
> > The short answer is that you can't.
> >
> > Here's the longer one:
> >
> > The POP protocol has no provision for marking messages read.  You can only
> read them (or portions thereof) and get basic information
> > about each one (size, unique ID, etc.).  The webmail interface is probably
> interacting with a data store in iMail and is not using a
> > pop server at all.  An IMAP server, on the other hand, allows you to mark
> messages read.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
> > On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
> > www.CoolFusion.com
> > 631-737-4668 x101
> > inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server
> > Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Steve Reich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:38 PM
> > Subject: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP
> >
> >
> > > I am using iMail (6.0 I think). Is there anyway I can mark a message on
> the
> > > server as 'Read' using CFPOP? The iMail web interface seems to know what
> > > messages have been read. How can I do this with CF?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
>
>
>
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RE: Hardware Load Balancers

2001-08-09 Thread Kwang Suh

Anandtech is using some Linux software that seems to be working quite well.

Read the article here: http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1456

-Original Message-
From: Randy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: August 9, 2001 3:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Hardware Load Balancers


Hi all!  I'm hoping that I can get some insight and guidance in the
load balancing arena.  My little group provides intranet apps for
various parts of my company (some of them CF, some not).  These apps
are spread across HP-UX, Linux, and NT, and are also spread across
multiple sites.

We're looking for a smallish, inexpensive piece of hardware that would
recognize that a server was down and route traffic to an alternate. 
It would be a bonus if it could recognize the app via URL, and route
to a designated replacement.  Right now, we're not worried about 
session and client variables.

Recommendations, prices, thoughts?  Vendors welcome.

Many thanks!!!

Randy Smith
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Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP

2001-08-09 Thread Jim McAtee

Howie,

When a client such as Outlook Express retrieves messages or headers from a
POP server, does it download all available mail headers, or is there
somethin in the POP protocol that allows the client to say "only send me all
messages in the mailbox after X"?

In CF 5, has Macromedia enhanced the CFPOP tag to allow it to identify
messages on the server using the server's unique message id?  This
shortcoming seems to me to keep a developer from writing a robust web mail
application using CFPOP.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP


> The short answer is that you can't.
>
> Here's the longer one:
>
> The POP protocol has no provision for marking messages read.  You can only
read them (or portions thereof) and get basic information
> about each one (size, unique ID, etc.).  The webmail interface is probably
interacting with a data store in iMail and is not using a
> pop server at all.  An IMAP server, on the other hand, allows you to mark
messages read.
>
> HTH,
>
> Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
> On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
> www.CoolFusion.com
> 631-737-4668 x101
> inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server
> Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Reich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:38 PM
> Subject: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP
>
>
> > I am using iMail (6.0 I think). Is there anyway I can mark a message on
the
> > server as 'Read' using CFPOP? The iMail web interface seems to know what
> > messages have been read. How can I do this with CF?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve


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Re: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP

2001-08-09 Thread Howie Hamlin

The short answer is that you can't.

Here's the longer one:

The POP protocol has no provision for marking messages read.  You can only read them 
(or portions thereof) and get basic information
about each one (size, unique ID, etc.).  The webmail interface is probably interacting 
with a data store in iMail and is not using a
pop server at all.  An IMAP server, on the other hand, allows you to mark messages 
read.

HTH,

Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
On-Line Data Solutions, Inc.
www.CoolFusion.com
631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server
Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Reich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP


> I am using iMail (6.0 I think). Is there anyway I can mark a message on the
> server as 'Read' using CFPOP? The iMail web interface seems to know what
> messages have been read. How can I do this with CF?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
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Marking Email Messages 'Read' with CFPOP

2001-08-09 Thread Steve Reich

I am using iMail (6.0 I think). Is there anyway I can mark a message on the
server as 'Read' using CFPOP? The iMail web interface seems to know what
messages have been read. How can I do this with CF?

Thanks,
Steve



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Getting mail from Outlook Express

2001-08-09 Thread ChristianWatt

Does anyone have any idea at all how to get 12,000 + emails out of a folder
in outlook express?  I have a page to parse them, do insert info to a
database and delete them, but they have to be in the mail box.  Any help
would be way beyond appreciated considering the fact I am not looking
forward to forwarding all these emails.

Christian

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RE: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Craig Fisher


Umm if you are going to do a CYA memo -- do it on paper.  How well do you
think the email I've "forwarded" would stand up?? Oh and it would be trivial
to make the logs look like I'd received it...

(Note: This email is fake!!(speaking of CYA))
-Original Message-
From: President Bill Clinton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2001 6:04 PM
To: Craig Fisher
Subject: Thanks and a surprise.

Craig:

Thanks for being such a great guy and a swell American.  I am so excited to
have you living here the States that I am excusing you from federal income
taxes for the 100 years.  Enjoy it man!

Your Friend,

William Jefferson Clinton
The President of United States of America



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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Wjreichard

In a message dated 8/9/01 8:18:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> 

If your going to get sued whether your in the right or not isn't the point. 
Your going to get sued! A CYA memo isn't going stop litigation. If your right 
your right ... if you get sued you get sued!

And BTW ... typically only organizations with the resources to pay are sued. 
Blood from a stone 

Cheers,
Bill


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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Wjreichard

Really John ... don't get me started!

Question ... who owns the code? Is she an independent consultant working 
outside a 'Work for Hire' or 'Commissioned Work' scenario? Is she an employee 
of some company ... implicit 'work for hire'? Has she signed away the rights 
of the code?

If she doesn't own the code she is not liable ... period.

Cheers,
Bill

In a message dated 8/9/01 8:05:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> >Tools don't fire people ... managers do. Managers are liable not 
> programmers!
> 
> True. However, if you note in her post, she states that she knows one of 
> the reports produces skewed results. If this result is used to fire 
> someone, and that person sues, she could (and most likely will) be named 
> since she produces the report. Lawsuits generally name everyone who ever 
> even thought about something so they can get more exposure.
> 
> Think about it...a lawyer in court saying "So, you knew this report 
> produced flawed data, yet you provided it to management anyway, and that 
> data resulted in the termination of my client. I'd say that makes you as 
> responsible as the manager."
> 
> >Jesus, give me a break.
> 
> Ask him, He might. ;-)
> 
> >Oh ... and please take this cf-community ... thanks!
> 
> It's relevant here as well, since we all code reports and data 
> presentations at one time or another.
> 
> John
> 
> 




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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Matt Robertson

...He is no more liable than  ...  Winchester or Remington maker of guns 
used to kill a person...

The need to defend against those lawsuits had a profound effect on that industry. 
There's no telling if some yo-yo is going to sue everybody in sight dome day, so a 
quick off-the-high-horse *non-confrontational* CYA memo is in order.  

This can be done with a simple summary email to the supervisor, summarizing the 
results of the meeting where the programmer's concerns were voiced. Briefly reference 
the concern and the supervisor's awareness of same. Then drop the matter. Perform your 
due diligence and leave it to management do the same.

''Larry and Moe,
Just wanted to confirm that I checked over the programming, and that report is 
definitely going to be off as we discussed.  You'll need to keep this in mind when 
reviewing those numbers.
--Curly''


 
 

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OT: Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Wjreichard

Brandon,

But I'm sure your an impartial bystander:

http://www.line56.com/directory/company.asp?CompanyID=3207&CategoryID=34
http://www.provere.com/

Call me cynical ... but what do you call 10,000 CTOs of Lawyer referral 
services drowned at the bottom of the ocean


I know we've all heard it before ... but:

A nice START!

Cheers,
Bill

In a message dated 8/9/01 7:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


> Of course you are liable...really might want to speak with legal counsel
> about this.
> 




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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread John Paitel


>Tools don't fire people ... managers do. Managers are liable not programmers!

True. However, if you note in her post, she states that she knows one of 
the reports produces skewed results. If this result is used to fire 
someone, and that person sues, she could (and most likely will) be named 
since she produces the report. Lawsuits generally name everyone who ever 
even thought about something so they can get more exposure.

Think about it...a lawyer in court saying "So, you knew this report 
produced flawed data, yet you provided it to management anyway, and that 
data resulted in the termination of my client. I'd say that makes you as 
responsible as the manager."

>Jesus, give me a break.

Ask him, He might. ;-)

>Oh ... and please take this cf-community ... thanks!

It's relevant here as well, since we all code reports and data 
presentations at one time or another.

John


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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Wjreichard

He is no more liable than Ford or BMW who makes a car and that car is 
involved in a drunk driving accident.

Or Winchester or Remmington maker of guns used to kill a person.

Tools don't fire people ... managers do. Managers are liable not programmers!

Jesus, give me a break.


Oh ... and please take this cf-community ... thanks!

Regards,
Bill


n a message dated 8/9/01 7:24:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


> Of course you are liable...really might want to speak with legal counsel
> about this.
> 




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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Terri Stocke

Hi Amanda,

Boy, your question sure reminded me of a similar situation where I work.

Let me just say, I am NOT an attorney, so I don't know what the 
ramifications of this would be. I would think that if you were only doing 
what your management required you to do, you wouldn't be able to be pinned 
for any wrongdoing. After all, how do YOU know what the data is going to be 
used for? There have been a couple of occasions where my boss has asked me 
to pull data out of a database using CF (for a report, data administration, 
whatever) and I have no idea what the data is being used for, nor do I care. 
Secondly, what if you refused to include that data? That, I would think, 
could be considered insubordination, which is cause for termination.

Here's my rule of thumb: When in doubt, *get it in writing*! If you really 
are concerned about it, type up an email outlining your concerns and send it 
to the powers-that-be that are driving this initiative. That way you have a 
legal record of where you stand on the issue. If they insist that you build 
it according to those specs, insist on a written response indicating such.

I really doubt that you could be held liable for any terminations based on 
the application that you were directed to create (though in our increasingly 
letigious society I suppose anything is possible at this point). The 
application would run the numbers consistently across the board for all 
employees, correct? It's just that the numbers entered into the database 
could cause the skew. In that case, how can you be held responsible for the 
data entered into the database?

Just my two-cents worth ;)

Terri



Original Message Follows
From: Amanda Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: legal question?
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:25:26 -0700 (PDT)

Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question/concern
for me but will ask anyways.I have been creating
some reports for HR that will be used internally to
keep track of our employees work(ie number of items
completed, average numbers etc).   One of the averages
I am being asked to report will be a very skewed
number and I am concerned because these averages are
used to "grade" employees.  People have been let go
over these numbers.  Bottom line is, I do not want to
have any numbers on my report that I already know are
skewed.  I expressed my concern to my employer and
they agreed that the numbers will be off but they want
it anyways and they say they will take that into
consideration.  Am I in anyway liable or am I being
paranoid???

:)

Thanks,
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RE: Newbie Question

2001-08-09 Thread Brian Fox

Just use replace, but with an empty substring2.

replace(yourstring,"GETRIDOF","","all") 

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> Subject: Newbie Question
> 
> 
> What's the function for removing certain word in a string?
>  
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> 
>
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RE: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

Amanda,

I would recommend that you get together with them and their legal team
(assuming they have one) and make sure that you're not violating
anyone's privacy rights.  I worked on a questionable application in my
past as well.  It was a tool that allowed the system administrators to
do reporting on the logs from their firewalls.  They wanted to use it to
do bandwidth analysis and stuff.  However, part of what it could do was
search for keywords in the URLs of sites that people were visiting.
This meant that they could search for obscene words, find the people
that hit those URLs, and possibly make judgments about what the person
was doing at that site.  We got legal involved and they drew some fine
lines around what we could and couldn't do and what the system admin
could and couldn't reliably assume from the log reports.

It's a touchy subject and if you are feeling uncomfortable, I'd
recommend bringing everyone in on it and clarifying things.  Ultimately,
the responsibility falls in the hands of the people that use the
application and make decisions on it, but I know where you're coming
from in being responsible for writing the code that produces the results
that they'll be looking at.

Good luck!  :)

-Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Amanda Stern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: legal question?


Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question/concern
for me but will ask anyways.I have been creating
some reports for HR that will be used internally to
keep track of our employees work(ie number of items
completed, average numbers etc).   One of the averages
I am being asked to report will be a very skewed
number and I am concerned because these averages are
used to "grade" employees.  People have been let go
over these numbers.  Bottom line is, I do not want to
have any numbers on my report that I already know are
skewed.  I expressed my concern to my employer and
they agreed that the numbers will be off but they want
it anyways and they say they will take that into
consideration.  Am I in anyway liable or am I being
paranoid???

:)

Thanks,
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RE: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Costas Piliotis

Call a lawyer for legal advice, however, there's two schools of thought on
this:

Will this affect your professional standing in the community?  Will you
loose designations or certifications over this?  Do you have the request in
writing?  Can you blame someone else?  If you DO have the reqest in writing,
then cover your rear and I would do it.  It's not worth arguing over.  If
you don't get blamed, then don't worry about it.

However, the ethical matter, if you REALLY have an ethical issue, then tell
them to pound salt.  Your professional integrity should be something you
value more than anything, and it's one thing they can't take away.  However,
the job market sux right now, so I'd stick with the first point.

Legal issue?  If your company is asking you to lie, then I'd keep a lawyer
on call...



-Original Message-
From: Amanda Stern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: legal question?


Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question/concern
for me but will ask anyways.I have been creating
some reports for HR that will be used internally to
keep track of our employees work(ie number of items
completed, average numbers etc).   One of the averages
I am being asked to report will be a very skewed
number and I am concerned because these averages are
used to "grade" employees.  People have been let go
over these numbers.  Bottom line is, I do not want to
have any numbers on my report that I already know are
skewed.  I expressed my concern to my employer and
they agreed that the numbers will be off but they want
it anyways and they say they will take that into
consideration.  Am I in anyway liable or am I being
paranoid???

:)

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Re: legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Brandon Wood

Of course you are liable...really might want to speak with legal counsel
about this.




- Original Message -
From: "Amanda Stern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: legal question?


> Hello,
>
> Not sure if anyone can answer this question/concern
> for me but will ask anyways.I have been creating
> some reports for HR that will be used internally to
> keep track of our employees work(ie number of items
> completed, average numbers etc).   One of the averages
> I am being asked to report will be a very skewed
> number and I am concerned because these averages are
> used to "grade" employees.  People have been let go
> over these numbers.  Bottom line is, I do not want to
> have any numbers on my report that I already know are
> skewed.  I expressed my concern to my employer and
> they agreed that the numbers will be off but they want
> it anyways and they say they will take that into
> consideration.  Am I in anyway liable or am I being
> paranoid???
>
> :)
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: Securty

2001-08-09 Thread Daniel Larson

Rick,

The CFGods wish the admin site be run on a separate intranet server, inside
the firewall with session-based user management. (Okay-- I know this
probably isn'd an option, so read on anyway for the rest...) You can use a
session variable that sets the permission level (from the user record in the
database) and check the permission level on the secured page.

I've written a tag called cf_access which checks the session permission
level, and if it's not a the desired level boots the user. I call it like
this: .


on 8/9/01 11:18 AM, CFHelp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have an admin section on a few sites and was wondering what the best
> way to handle security is.  Would I run a session using a cookie to
> timeout the login? Do I use CFApplication? The administrators need to be
> able to login from anywhere.
> 
> What are the ways the CFGods wish it be done?
> 
> 
> 
> Rick Eidson



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Survey on CF scalability

2001-08-09 Thread I-Lin Kuo

Hi all CF site admins,

I'm curious about the scalability of CF and was interested in getting some 
actual numbers. Thanks!

number of pages served per minute:
(est) max number of pages served per minute:
number of CF servers in cluster:
Clustering method:
Fusebox or other methodology:

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Sun Certified Java 2 Programmer
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Newbie Question

2001-08-09 Thread mistmp1

What's the function for removing certain word in a string?
 
 
Thanks.


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RE: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?

2001-08-09 Thread Rick Osborne [Mojo]

This works for me:

Replace:  #(Form.[[:alnum:]_]+)#
With: #Trim(\1)#

Of course, if you want it to handle more complex scenarios (Functions,
Structures, etc), you'll have to do a bit of tweaking.

-R

P.S. - Regexs under CF suck!


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From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?


I need a way to do a replace on text that has a known prefix but an unknown
ending and an unknown length.

An example of this would be to wrap functions around existing form input
value.

I need wrap all my input values with trim()
Each variable has a attribute "form."

Input values:




I need it to look like:




Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks
Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
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  608.270.9770
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OT: Hardware Load Balancers

2001-08-09 Thread Randy Smith

Hi all!  I'm hoping that I can get some insight and guidance in the
load balancing arena.  My little group provides intranet apps for
various parts of my company (some of them CF, some not).  These apps
are spread across HP-UX, Linux, and NT, and are also spread across
multiple sites.

We're looking for a smallish, inexpensive piece of hardware that would
recognize that a server was down and route traffic to an alternate. 
It would be a bonus if it could recognize the app via URL, and route
to a designated replacement.  Right now, we're not worried about 
session and client variables.

Recommendations, prices, thoughts?  Vendors welcome.

Many thanks!!!

Randy Smith
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Time Difference Function - newbie!!!!!

2001-08-09 Thread Amanda Stern


Hello again!

I am having some trouble calculating the time
difference for two datetime field2 which I then try
and add togetherhere is what I have done:

My SQL Stmt:
Select DateDiff("mi", dApptEndTime, 
   dApptBeginTime) as Diff1,
DateDiff("mi", dApptEndTime2, dApptBeginTime2) as
Diff2,   
cas.icasacapptID,
cas.dApptBeginTime as BeginTime, 
cas.dApptEndTime as EndTime,
cas.dApptBeginTime2 as BeginTime2, 
cas.dApptEndTime2 as EndTime2,
'None' as TimeCode,
cli.iclientID,etc

then later in the code I do a cfset:  




I get an error stating that it cannot convert to
number..

How can I get around this?

Thanks a million!!!
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RE: rent a coder

2001-08-09 Thread Chris Martinez

try www.elance.com

-Original Message-
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Subject: OT: rent a coder


Someone know other sites like: rentacode.com where I can rent a coder
to do c/c++/delphi work for me? for mostly small projects.

Michael.
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RE: Zip Codes

2001-08-09 Thread Paris Lundis

wELL i One upped the anty...

My records are all LAT/LON encoded already.. so I can do the 
comparisons on the individual record :)

Check out ARCVIEW for doing such... complicated and expensive, but 
necessary... 

Have to test that this weekend when I get some time... know a lot of 
poeple are itching for timings on this too :)

-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-Original Message-
From: "Correa, Orlando (ITSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:33:42 -0600
Subject: RE: Zip Codes

> Any quantification of execution time for "spankin fast"? on the
> 43,000
> record table?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:50 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Zip Codes
> 
> 
> Well, we've used it :)  I just cut it out of a page, so it may need
> tweaking.
> 
> I don't know of any other way to do it other then calculate against
> each
> lat/long other then precalculating some sort of matrix to try to weed
> out rows that you KNOW are not in the radius.
> 
> It is spankin fast with US 5 digit zips.  With +4 zipcodes, well,
> that's
> a lot of rows to calculate against, and I wouldn't so this.  I'd have
> another table with the 5 digit zips, and returning the zips that
> match
> the radius, then do a +4 search.
> 
> Remember that how many "locations" you have is not important to the
> zip-radius query.  It just returns zipcodes that match - then query
> your
> 500+K row table for locations with those zipcodes.
> 
> So, the flow would go like this:
> 
> 1) Query to get Lat/Long (etc.) for User-Entered Zip code.
> 2) Query to get Zip5 zips within the radius of User-Entered Zip code
> (query against about 43,000 zip codes)
> 3) (Optional) Query against Zip+4 table filtering on the Zip5, so you
> are only hitting the rows that have the main zipcode returned by step
> 2
> 4) Query your location table for locations with the resulting
> zipcodes
> 
> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > 
> > Haven't tested the code below yet myself...  ANyone used it
> before/yet?
> > Had been looking for an elegant SQL based computation... I wrote a
> much
> > more complicated and assumption oriented search to facilitate
> such...
> > It works not on the circle basis but on a SQUARE basis... a small
> error
> > margin in each corner :)
> > 
> > I ask about folks using it to gauge both the speed of it compared
> to
> > how I do it and the number of records everyone is using with it...
> > 
> > I have some tables that computations need to run against upwards of
> > 500k records quickly and usably so in a web setting.. My use for it
> is
> > people searching for other people or places based on where they are
> or
> > will be...  QUite typical use I think...
> > 
> > Interested in everyone's input..
> > 
> > -paris
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:45:48 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Zip Codes
> > 
> > > Here's the important code - I think this works in Access,
> probably
> > > SQLServer as well.  You need a database with zipcodes, longitude,
> and
> > > latitude.  This assues Lon/Lat in degrees.
> > >
> > > This code takes in a radius, and returns all the zipcodes within
> that
> > > radius:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >   select longitude,latitude from ZipCodes where ZipCode
> ='#Zip1#'
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >   SELECT ZipCode FROM ZipCodes WHERE
> > >   SQR( ( LONGITUDE-(#Ziplookup.LONGITUDE#) )^2  +
> > > (LATITUDE-(#Ziplookup.LATITUDE#))^2 ) <= (#RADIUS#)/60
> > > 
> > >
> > > I'm sure this could be refined into a single query, if needs be.
> > >
> > > Here's the calculation for Lat/Long in radians:
> > >
> > >  > > cos(SourceLatitude) * cos(DestinationLatitude) *
> > > cos(DestinationLongitude - SourceLongitude)>
> > >  > > 1.570796326794895)>
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Rey Bango wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey all. I need to build a routine that will allow a site
> visitor
> > > to find a
> > > > store within "x" miles of a specific zip code. Has anyone done
> this
> > > before
> > > > and if so, would you mind lending some guidance? If anyone
> knows of
> > > a custom
> > > > tag to do this, that would great.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Rey Bango
> > > > Team Allaire...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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JIT Compilation Error

2001-08-09 Thread Bruce Sorge

I am receiving the following error:

Just in time compilation error 
Invalid parser construct found on line 29 at position 25. ColdFusion was looking at 
the following text:
Yes
Invalid expression format. The usual cause is an error in the expression structure. 
The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFSET tag occupying document 
position (23:1) to (23:6)

I have another template with pretty much the same code and it works great. I am 
attaching the code snippets to look at.




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Web server provided content data when none was expected. Data ignored.

2001-08-09 Thread Brook Davies

"Error","TID=315","08/09/01","13:52:56","Web server provided content data 
when none was expected. Data ignored."

Anybody know what this error means and why its appears over and over again 
in our logs?

Brook Davies
maracasmedia inc.



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CF Scheduler problem (resolved?)

2001-08-09 Thread Braver, Ben

FYI, I *think* I found the problem --

Sorry, I guess I didn't understand from the log that the task WAS submitted
successfully, but the MAIL message failed.
When I thought to check the mail.log file, I found: SMTP server replied
"Unable to connect to mail server."
Looks like our corporate infrastructure folks did a number on us again -
can't ping the server now .

Thanks anyway,

-Ben
=
Hi all,

CF 4.5.1 SP2
Win 2K Server
Local intranet

I put a task in the Scheduler via the Admin page.
(It uses cf_mail to send a test alpha pager message to a small group, with a
corresponding confirm message to their mailbox.)

Start date, no End date.
Recurring daily at 11:00:00
Operation: HTTPRequest
URL = .cfm page on a local box

The day I put it in the scheduler (7/30/01), the task worked fine.
The next day (7/31/01) it worked fine.
Since then, it has not worked at all.

Scheduler.log shows:
"Information","TID=752","08/01/01","10:52:35","Refreshing scheduled task
list initiated."
"Information","TID=752","08/01/01","10:52:35","Refreshing scheduled task
list completed."
"Information","TID=1424","08/01/01","11:00:35","Scheduled action Pagertest,
template safari/it/frstest/mailtest.cfm submission initiated."
"Information","TID=1424","08/01/01","11:00:35","Scheduled action Pagertest,
template safari/it/frstest/mailtest.cfm submitted successfully."

But *only* on the first two days did the log show:
"Information","TID=752","07/31/01","15:46:35","Scheduling task Pagertest."
"Information","TID=752","07/31/01","15:46:35","Task Pagertest next scheduled
submission is 11:00:00 AM. "

Any ideas?  Thanks.

Ben Braver
Information Technology
Ultramar Inc.
Golden Eagle Refinery
150 Solano Way
Martinez, CA  94553-1487
(925) 370-3673 voice
(925) 370-3393 fax
(510) 716-2557 pager
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Ben Forta and Charlie Arehart Annapolis 8/23/01

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Smith

Come see Ben Forta and Charlie Arehart in an ANCFUG Special Meeting
on 8/23/01 at 5:50pm in Annapolis MD. It's Free! But seats are
limited to the first 200 people, so you must sign up to attend.

Register today at http://www.ancfug.com/ancfugmem.cfm

Meeting location:
Calvary United Methodist Church Fellowship Hall
301 Rowe Boulevard, Annapolis MD 21401

Please support this month's sponsor SysteManage.
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This month's speakers are:

Ben Forta http://www.forta.com/ of Macromedia. Ben has written
numerous books including his most recent "Certified ColdFusion
Developer Study Guide". Ben will present "ColdFusion 5 User Defined
Functions" - A step-by-step walkthrough of the how's and why's of
UDF's, from the basics, all the way through advanced usage.

He is also Product Evangelist for the ColdFusion product line. In
that capacity he gets to spend a considerable amount of time talking
and writing about ColdFusion, and providing feedback to help shape
the future direction of the product. If you are not yet a ColdFusion
user, you should be. It is an incredible product, and is truly
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was a ColdFusion customer (He wrote one of the first large high
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AND

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will present "CF5: What's New?

More than you've been told!" Do you really know what's new in CF 5?
If you can't name more than 10 new features, you're missing out! Even
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Special Meeting Location:
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Re: Securty

2001-08-09 Thread ccook22

Rick-

Basically we set a client variable with a timestamp when the user logs in,
then each time the user clicks to advance to another screen we reset the
variable which contains the timestamp.  Each time the user clicks a button
we check the current timestamp against the time in the client variable, if
20 minutes has elapsed they will be sent to a screen telling them they have
been timed out and that they will need to login again. Since this
functionality is written in the application cfm then once the time-out
occurs, they cant click the back button to "get back-in" the app, it will
continue to re-route them to login again.

The administrators will be able to login from anywhere regardless of the
time-out set for the application.  In the application cfm you can exclude
the administrators from being timed out based on login id's etc.

Maybe that helps.
CC




CFHelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/09/2001 01:18:16 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:
Subject:  Securty


I have an admin section on a few sites and was wondering what the best
way to handle security is.  Would I run a session using a cookie to
timeout the login? Do I use CFApplication? The administrators need to be
able to login from anywhere.

What are the ways the CFGods wish it be done?



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RE: CF5 Advanced Security

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Watts

> Is it possible to use a cf4.5 installation as the security server for 
> a cf5 install.???
>
> Or do they both need to be running cf5? 

I would guess that they'd both have to be running CF 5, since the two use
different versions of SiteMinder. I'm not certain about this, though, since
I don't really know that much about the internals of SiteMinder operation.

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Re: Securty

2001-08-09 Thread Fuon See Tu

I'd just do it like in Ben's book.  in the Application.cfm, check to see if 
A Session.Logged exists.  If not, then make it and set it to False or 0 (or 
however u wnna do it), and close the CFIF tag.  Then do another CFIF to 
check if Session.Logged is FALSE and if it is, check to see that they are 
not on the login page, and if they arent do a CFlocation to the login page.  
:)
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>
>I have an admin section on a few sites and was wondering what the best
>way to handle security is.  Would I run a session using a cookie to
>timeout the login? Do I use CFApplication? The administrators need to be
>able to login from anywhere.
>
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Re: Zachary Bedell (Kill this thread please)

2001-08-09 Thread James Taavon

I have received more msgs from people commenting and joking about this
thread than the thread itself. Can we kill it please. Why the need for
more comments?

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MSG, THANKS!

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A noo B question

2001-08-09 Thread Stevens, Jason

I have a strange predicament at work.

We have several different Cold Fusion net applications in our company. I
work with one team that has it's own project and now I've been asked to help
out with another project. For one reason or another, they don't let their
developers mount their desktop CFStudio to the CFServer on the machine we're
working with.

1. Would you have any idea why they would enforce such a policy? Just a
power hungry sysadmin?
2. Since the app is huge, I can't really download it to my desktop. Is my
only other option to develop on my desktop, ftp it to the server and then
test? 

I just wanted to see if there were any rhyme or reason for this seemingly
pointless development environment.

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RE: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

Mark,

Here's what you can do.  Open up your copy of ColdFusion Studio and open
a document where you want to make this replacement.  Once you have it
open, press "CTRL+SHIFT+R" (extend search and replace).  When the dialog
box comes up, follow these steps:

1.  Enter the following in the "Find What:" box:
#(form\.[^#]*)#
2.  Enter the following in the "Replace With:" box:
#trim(\1)#
3.  Make sure the "Match case" box is NOT checked
4.  Make sure the "Regular expressions" box is checked
5.  Make sure "Current document" is selected for "Find where:"

I would recommend doing this on a few single files first in order to
ensure reliability before doing a mass search and replace on your entire
site.  :)

Good luck.  Hope this helps.

-Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?


I need a way to do a replace on text that has a known prefix but an
unknown
ending and an unknown length.

An example of this would be to wrap functions around existing form input
value.

I need wrap all my input values with trim()
Each variable has a attribute "form."

Input values:




I need it to look like:




Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks
Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770
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RE: Crystal Reports

2001-08-09 Thread Costas Piliotis

Depends what you're trying to do.  A lot of what you would like to
accomplish can be done through client side scripting - the server side is
tough in cold fusion - you'll find yourself re-writing tonnes of asp code to
coldfusion.  If you have cf on an iis box, and have no need for tonnes of
session management, stick with  asp.

Crystal Decisions has tonnes of good sample code on using asp to generate
reports.

Otherwise, Cold Fusion has a cfreport tag, but all that does is convert the
report to a html page.  If you want something printable, then look at the
crystal decisions solutions.

I've implemented it myself, and do most all of the login in the browser;
The only thing is that I've limited usage to the activeX control.  I guess
I've alienated all of the 10 Netscape Users left in the world =)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Crystal Reports


Crystal Reports

Does anyone have any good links on how to use this with CF, prefer web sites
or example code. Also I am using V8.0 is this supported under CF4.5 and
CF5.0, or both.

Regards
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RE: FuseBox

2001-08-09 Thread Rich Tretola

Checkout the new visual tool for fusebox at www.visualfusebox.org
It's an excellent tool for the fusebox beginner.
Thanks,
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Toby Tremayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: FuseBox


Absolutely.  I discovered Fusebox over a year after I started coding in
cold fusion.  For a good while I just kept implementing the parts of it I
knew as I had time to read the spec and get used to it. Now I code
everything in fusebox.  The fusebox community is fantastic - and I've found
coding in this methodology has actually lent me toward writing more elegant
and sophisticated solutions to things as a matter of course simply because
of the mindset fusebox methods draw me into.

The mailing list by the way is now run through topica.com.  Easy way to
join is go to www.halhelms.com (a great place for fusebox info) and use the
form there.

Toby

At 11:35 PM 8/9/2001, you wrote:
>I agree 100%.  FuseBox is a great tool and allows you to deploy new sites
>rapidly, but not such a great idea to do starting out with a big project.
>Tool around with it first, learn the ins-and-outs and then begin to apply
it
>to bigger apps.  It is easy to use, but also easy to screw it up if you
>don't know what you're doing.  In my old shop, we implemented a very clean
>version of it and was extremely easy to use.  Where I'm currently at, they
>have a half-assed implementation of it and it is a royal pain in the
>you-know-what to debug.  It's horrible.  Get the book from Steve Nelson and
>Craig Girard (www.fusebox.org or www.secretagents.com).  It spells it out
>very nicely.  Good luck.  In case you didn't know, there is a fusebox
>discussion forum through houseoffusion also.  There are some really smart
>and helpful people over there that would fall over themselves trying to
help
>you. (This means you Lee).  Great resource.
>
>
>Michael Corrigan
>Programmer
>
>\- Original Message -
>From: "Ken Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:36 PM
>Subject: RE: FuseBox
>
>
> > > I have a huge app to build... actually already started.
> >
> >
> > While I happen to like FuseBox and use it for a lot of my projects
(where
> > appropriate), I'm not sure that I would suggest you dive into it for the
> > first time on a huge app that is already underway. Particularly if the
> > project is time sensitive. While it's not difficult to learn, it does
> > involve changing the way you do some things and leaves it up to you to
> > decide which parts of it you care to use and which you don't.
> >
> > That said, however, when you do get comfortable with it I think you'll
>find
> > it speeds your development quite a bit. You will, of course, get lots of
> > varied opinions about FuseBox here on CF-Talk...most equally valid from
>the
> > perspective of the person expressing them. In the end you'll have to
>decide
> > for yourself what's best for your situation. But do check it out and try
>to
> > avoid falling for any of those old wivetales about it being mostly about
> > file naming conventions or dictating directory structures.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: CF5 Advanced Security

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

Edward,

My best guess would be that both would need to be running cf5.  From
what I've heard, CF5 has a slightly different Advanced Security layout
and queries that would not be compatible with a cf4.5 security policy
store.  Same applies if you are using Spectra.  There's a special KB
article out that discusses what you need to do in order to "upsize" your
policy stores from cf4.5 to cf5 in order to run Spectra on ColdFusion
5.0.

Hope this helps,
Tyson


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-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF5 Advanced Security


Guys n Gals,

Is it possible to use a cf4.5 installation as the security server for a
cf5
install.???

Or do they both need to be running cf5?


best wishes,

  -= Ed


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RE: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?

2001-08-09 Thread Ryan Emerle

Should be able to just use a regular replace..  select the block what you
want to replace and:

replace "# with "#Trim(

and

replace #" with )#"

In the selection (the '"' being a literal double quote)

-Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?


I need a way to do a replace on text that has a known prefix but an unknown
ending and an unknown length.

An example of this would be to wrap functions around existing form input
value.

I need wrap all my input values with trim()
Each variable has a attribute "form."

Input values:




I need it to look like:




Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks
Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.vividmedia.com
  608.270.9770
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missing tables

2001-08-09 Thread Brook Davies

Good morning/afternoon,

It appears as though a table has mysteriously gone missing from our SQL7 
database. Of course there is no record of this table being dropped via the 
server or the dreaded url hack. We have previously secured our application 
so that hackers can not drop tables but the potential still exists.

So I have three questions. 1.) Is it possible to log these actions at the 
DB level? Is this already being logged somewhere? 2.) How do you recover a 
single table from a previous days complete backup of the DB and 3) Would 
adding a routine which checked that the url query string contained the 
phrase "drop table" and then taking appropriate action ensure that this 
wouldn't happen.

Again, I am not sure that the URL string hack was in fact the culprit. Is 
there any other way a table could disappear. Thanks for the help!

Brook



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Question regarding the CF Administrator

2001-08-09 Thread Vance Duke


I was wondering if anyone knew the encryption key for writing the ODBC
password to the Registry for the Cold Fusion administrator.  I am trying to
write an install script with InstallAnywhere and I need to create the ODBC
for Cold Fusion Administrator and I need to write the password to the
registry.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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MCP


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RE: Crystal Reports

2001-08-09 Thread JSchlosser

I have done this with Crystal 7 and CF 4.5 - I have code I can share if you
think this will be helpful.

JoAnn A. Schlosser
Consultant
Association Management Software
Grant Thornton LLP
Washington, D. C.
703.837.4428



-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Crystal Reports


Crystal Reports

Does anyone have any good links on how to use this with CF, prefer web
sites or example code. Also I am using V8.0 is this supported under
CF4.5 and CF5.0, or both.

Regards
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

15?  Geesh... I got FIFTY copies of it.  :(

-Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Will...

We got your message 15 times...

Are you spamming us?  ;)



> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Hey Bruce
> 
> I got your message 3 times.
> 
> are you spamming me? :-)
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 
> 14:49
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I 
> the only one? If others are, is there not a way we can remove 
> him from the list?
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RE: Locking session scope on existence checks

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

Yes.  It's considered a read of the variable and would required a
"readonly" lock.

-Tyson

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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Locking session scope on existence checks


Do ya need to lock the session scope if you're just checking if a
session
var exists?  Im well versed in why/how to lock for read and write, so no
explanations will be needed in that area :)

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legal question?????

2001-08-09 Thread Amanda Stern

Hello,

Not sure if anyone can answer this question/concern
for me but will ask anyways.I have been creating
some reports for HR that will be used internally to
keep track of our employees work(ie number of items
completed, average numbers etc).   One of the averages
I am being asked to report will be a very skewed
number and I am concerned because these averages are
used to "grade" employees.  People have been let go
over these numbers.  Bottom line is, I do not want to
have any numbers on my report that I already know are
skewed.  I expressed my concern to my employer and
they agreed that the numbers will be off but they want
it anyways and they say they will take that into
consideration.  Am I in anyway liable or am I being
paranoid???

:)

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Re: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Aaron Rouse

It becomes spam at anything over 50, which I got, 54 to be exact.

Snipe - 

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, John Paitel wrote:

> Well, since the admin already wrote a notice about it, I think they know. 
> Also, I've received your post five times. When do YOU become spam?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> At 07:29 PM 8/8/01 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one? 
> >If others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
> >
>
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Rich Tretola

Your lucky, I got it about 100 times.
Rich

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell



i have gotten this and the original about 10 times now




Will Swain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/09/2001 09:22:23 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:

Subject:  RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
If
others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
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RE: Locking session scope on existence checks

2001-08-09 Thread Matthew W Jones

yes, lock it.  It is the same as a read.

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Locking session scope on existence checks


Do ya need to lock the session scope if you're just checking if a session
var exists?  Im well versed in why/how to lock for read and write, so no
explanations will be needed in that area :)

-Ryan
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RE: Locking session scope on existence checks

2001-08-09 Thread Justin Hansen

> if you're just checking if a session var exists?

Yes you do!

I was just working on that... here is what I do:








session.classic = structnew(); 






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From: Ryan Emerle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Locking session scope on existence checks


Do ya need to lock the session scope   Im well versed in why/how to lock for
read and write, so no
explanations will be needed in that area :)

-Ryan
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Re: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Don Vawter

I already have that function. It is called Message Rules in Outlook Express
LOL.
I just added a rule to delete whenever anything comes in from Zachary or
Will. Of course I have to remember to remove rule in a few days or I will
miss any real posts they have.

- Original Message -
From: "Tangorre, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


> I would like to invoke the noMoreEmail function  'noMoreEmail()' and pass
it
> the name of the person that this email keeps comging from.  :-)  I got it
a
> bazillion times.
>
> hehehe
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
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> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Hey Bruce
>
> I got your message 3 times.
>
> are you spamming me? :-)
>
> Will
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
> If
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RE: I don't understand session locking :(

2001-08-09 Thread Chris Norloff

What exactly are you looking for in the logs?  My understanding of inadequate locking 
was that memory and variable corruption were the problems, which might not be clear in 
the logs.

thanks,
Chris Norloff


-- Original Message --
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date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 08:16:43 -0700

>You make a very good point.  My field experience on many different sites is
>deal with locking in the development/qa phase.  Watch the Application and
>Server logs religiously and lock code as identified in these logs.  Also
>watch the Application and Server logs on the live servers and lock code as
>identified in these logs.  The bottom line is check these logs at least
>daily and whittle down the errors.  I do not subscribe to the
>"lock-everything" school of thought and this is from direct real-world
>experience.
>
>Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
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>-Original Message-
>From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:07 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(
>
>Maybe I am being a curmudgeon today, but it seems to me that if you ALWAYS
>need to lock session and application variables and would never want to use
>them without locks then Allaire should have coded that function into it's
>core design.
>
>
>Dennis Powers
>UXB Internet
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>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 7:14 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(
>
>Yes, you need to place a lock around any reads or writes of Session
>variables. If you don't lock reads as well as writes, and there's any
>possibility of the two operations happening simultaneously (and there
>usually is), then the lock you put on the write is useless by itself.
>
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RE: relational select box

2001-08-09 Thread Mark Smyth

could you be a bit more specific, 
what exactly are you trying to achieve?

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: relational select box


Can anyone give me a tip on how to have the contents of one select box
update the contents of another from a relational DB?


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Re: Locking session scope on existence checks

2001-08-09 Thread Chris Norloff

-- Original Message --
from: Ryan Emerle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Do ya need to lock the session scope if you're just checking if a session
>var exists?  Im well versed in why/how to lock for read and write, so no
>explanations will be needed in that area :)

Yes, you need a read (READONLY) lock.

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RE: Locking session scope on existence checks

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Watts

> Do ya need to lock the session scope if you're just checking if a
> session var exists?

Yes.

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RE: I don't understand session locking :(

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

I agree.  It makes more sense to not auto-lock because you have more
control over how/where you do your locking.  Over time and traffic,
locking can cause its own major headaches.  Plus, if you turn on the CF
Admin option that does auto-locking, you'll see a noticeable performance
hit on your server if you're getting high volumes of traffic.  The
locking and unlocking requires a bit of CF performance.

It's a pain in the butt sometimes, but overall it's usually not too bad
to do your own locking.

-Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(


had they done that,
it likely would have placed a lock around each individual use.
which would have been hard on performance.

as they left it,
you control what to lock, which allows you to place a single lock around
a
block of code.


-Original Message-
From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(


Maybe I am being a curmudgeon today, but it seems to me that if you
ALWAYS
need to lock session and application variables and would never want to
use
them without locks then Allaire should have coded that function into
it's
core design.


Dennis Powers
UXB Internet
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http://www.uxbinfo.com/

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 7:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(

Yes, you need to place a lock around any reads or writes of Session
variables. If you don't lock reads as well as writes, and there's any
possibility of the two operations happening simultaneously (and there
usually is), then the lock you put on the write is useless by itself.
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Re: relational select box

2001-08-09 Thread Alex

two selects related 



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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Ann Harrell

And thank God that one didn't bounce 

Ann

> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:25 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> 
> LOL! It doesn't pay to be a smart @ss does it 
> 
> Ann
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Bruce
> >
> > I got your message 3 times.
> >
> > are you spamming me? :-)
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I 
> the only one?
> > If
> > others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
> >
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RE: cfset and/or Duplicate() [was:RE: I don't understand sessionlocking :(

2001-08-09 Thread Chris Norloff

Right you are, with simple variables a cfset is adequate - Duplicate() is not 
required.  I did the test myself after getting suspicious of what I understood MM's 
answers to be.

Our problem is that we have a vanishing variable:
we do a 

and it works fine (automatic read locking is in effect, variable's value is the user's 
id, a four digit string that stays the same for the whole session).

18 lines of code later, in a cfquery with cachedwithin=10min., the request.variable is 
not available and the page throws an error. Not always, but often.

Anybody else had vanishing variables?

thanks,
Chris Norloff


-- Original Message --
From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:12:14 -0400 

>> NOT SO, says MM Tech Support.  Seems like cfset ALWAYS sets a pointer
>> rather than making a copy when dealing with shared-scope variables
>> (session, application, server).
>
>There are three possibilities.
>
>1. You misunderstood what MM tech support said, or
>
>2. MM tech support misunderstood what you were asking, or
>
>3. MM tech support needs to implement drug testing.
>
>It's very easy to test the above statement.
>
>
>
>
>#Variables.bar#
>
>If the variable within the Application scope was passed by reference to the
>local scope, the output should be "foo", but when I ran it, it was "baz".
>
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Timeout while obtaining an Oracle statement lock

2001-08-09 Thread freddy

 Hello,
I am wondering if anyone out there running cf 4.5.1 sp2 and oracle 8i has run across 
this error in their application logs
Oracle Error Code = 0Timeout while obtaining an Oracle statement lock
We are getting a bunch of them on and off (some days 10 some days 60) They started 
showing up when we upgraded from oracle 7.4.3 to 8i.
Originally we were getting over 200 a day and it was bring cf server down alot. 
Through the work of the dba's and developers we brought the
numbers down but cannot seem to get rid of them completely any help I could get would 
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
 Frederic


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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread John Paitel

Lol...I stopped counting after around 30

John


At 09:22 AM 8/9/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Will...
>
>We got your message 15 times...
>
>Are you spamming us?  ;)
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:22 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Hey Bruce
> >
> > I got your message 3 times.
> >
> > are you spamming me? :-)
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 09 August 2001
> > 14:49
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I
> > the only one? If others are, is there not a way we can remove
> > him from the list?
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Re: Dynamic array names

2001-08-09 Thread Fuon See Tu

I dont think this will work, but it's worth a shot.  try puttin hash marks 
around evaluate(arrayname)
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>Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:59:25 +0100
>
>hi folks..
>
>I'm having a real headache trying to set some values in an array. The
>problem revolves around the fact that the array name is dynamic. I've been
>trying to use ArraySet but its just crazy, it simply doesn't set the
>values.
>
>
>
>doesn't error, but  it also doesn't actually set the values in the array.
>If I set the value manually as a test..
>
>
>
>then it works fine (and arrayname defintely = MyArrayName).
>
>Is there a way of using DE or something that I'm missing to get this to
>work or does someone maybe know of a better way to do this?
>I'm at my wits end (not a long journey) so all help would be gratefully
>receieved...
>
>thanks
>.jez
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RE: Zip Codes

2001-08-09 Thread Correa, Orlando (ITSC)

Any quantification of execution time for "spankin fast"? on the 43,000
record table?

-Original Message-
From: Edward Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Zip Codes


Well, we've used it :)  I just cut it out of a page, so it may need
tweaking.

I don't know of any other way to do it other then calculate against each
lat/long other then precalculating some sort of matrix to try to weed
out rows that you KNOW are not in the radius.

It is spankin fast with US 5 digit zips.  With +4 zipcodes, well, that's
a lot of rows to calculate against, and I wouldn't so this.  I'd have
another table with the 5 digit zips, and returning the zips that match
the radius, then do a +4 search.

Remember that how many "locations" you have is not important to the
zip-radius query.  It just returns zipcodes that match - then query your
500+K row table for locations with those zipcodes.

So, the flow would go like this:

1) Query to get Lat/Long (etc.) for User-Entered Zip code.
2) Query to get Zip5 zips within the radius of User-Entered Zip code
(query against about 43,000 zip codes)
3) (Optional) Query against Zip+4 table filtering on the Zip5, so you
are only hitting the rows that have the main zipcode returned by step 2
4) Query your location table for locations with the resulting zipcodes

Paris Lundis wrote:
> 
> Haven't tested the code below yet myself...  ANyone used it before/yet?
> Had been looking for an elegant SQL based computation... I wrote a much
> more complicated and assumption oriented search to facilitate such...
> It works not on the circle basis but on a SQUARE basis... a small error
> margin in each corner :)
> 
> I ask about folks using it to gauge both the speed of it compared to
> how I do it and the number of records everyone is using with it...
> 
> I have some tables that computations need to run against upwards of
> 500k records quickly and usably so in a web setting.. My use for it is
> people searching for other people or places based on where they are or
> will be...  QUite typical use I think...
> 
> Interested in everyone's input..
> 
> -paris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:45:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: Zip Codes
> 
> > Here's the important code - I think this works in Access, probably
> > SQLServer as well.  You need a database with zipcodes, longitude, and
> > latitude.  This assues Lon/Lat in degrees.
> >
> > This code takes in a radius, and returns all the zipcodes within that
> > radius:
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >   select longitude,latitude from ZipCodes where ZipCode ='#Zip1#'
> > 
> >
> > 
> >   SELECT ZipCode FROM ZipCodes WHERE
> >   SQR( ( LONGITUDE-(#Ziplookup.LONGITUDE#) )^2  +
> > (LATITUDE-(#Ziplookup.LATITUDE#))^2 ) <= (#RADIUS#)/60
> > 
> >
> > I'm sure this could be refined into a single query, if needs be.
> >
> > Here's the calculation for Lat/Long in radians:
> >
> >  > cos(SourceLatitude) * cos(DestinationLatitude) *
> > cos(DestinationLongitude - SourceLongitude)>
> >  > 1.570796326794895)>
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Rey Bango wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey all. I need to build a routine that will allow a site visitor
> > to find a
> > > store within "x" miles of a specific zip code. Has anyone done this
> > before
> > > and if so, would you mind lending some guidance? If anyone knows of
> > a custom
> > > tag to do this, that would great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rey Bango
> > > Team Allaire...
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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SMTP

2001-08-09 Thread CFHelp

I have another question.
 
I setup IIS5 with multiple SMTP servers. Using one IP and different
Ports
 
Cold Fusion administrators mail is setup to use the default SMTP.  In my
CFMail tag I specify IP and Port if I want to use another SMTP.
Cold Fusion Spools it and passes it to the SMTP server fine but SMTP
drops the mail into the bad mail directory. Each SMTP server is setup
the same except for the Port. Any Ideas?.
 
 
  
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Bud

On 8/9/01, Will Swain penned:
>Hey Bruce
>
>I got your message 3 times.
>
>are you spamming me? :-)
>
>Will

LOL

I just got about 30 of these. Looks like the list server has quit 
sending 3 of EVERYONE'S messages and has decided to single out one or 
2 people to humiliate. :)
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Securty

2001-08-09 Thread CFHelp

I have an admin section on a few sites and was wondering what the best
way to handle security is.  Would I run a session using a cookie to
timeout the login? Do I use CFApplication? The administrators need to be
able to login from anywhere.
 
What are the ways the CFGods wish it be done?
 
 
  
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RE: counting form fields

2001-08-09 Thread Tangorre, Mike


ListLen(mike)

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-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: counting form fields


You do realise that the form scope can be treated as an array.

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To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: counting form fields

Not sure about  counting the number of fields returned by a form,

but... you can use:

MyQueryName.RecordCount

to show the number of results returned by a CF query.

Alex

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Wolter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 14:34
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:  counting form fields
> 
> Is there any way to get a count of the number of fields that are returned
> from a form?
> 
> Also, is there a way to get a count of the number of records selected by
a
> cfquery?  The only way I have found to do that is to do a second cfquery
> and use the "count(*)" function, but that seems to be double the work.
> In Visual Basic, I can just put ".recordcount" after the recordset name
to
> get a count.  Does Cold Fusion have anything like that?
> 
> Thanks!
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RE: relational select box

2001-08-09 Thread Tangorre, Mike

I hear that one, here in DC its smoking hot outside!!!   INFERNO!

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: relational select box


Can anyone give me a tip on how to have the contents of one select box
update the contents of another from a relational DB?


Emmet McGovern

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TEST - Please ignore

2001-08-09 Thread Adkins, Randy

TEST

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Re: Fw: Zachary B....

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz

If you check the headers you'll see that there are 40 "different" messages. 
i.e. the HoF server got 40 messages for the list. My real concern is that 
this was a virus spam from the people in question and we just don't know. 
Remember that the list kills all attachments so if this was a virus
I'm still investigating. Also note that of the thousands of people on the 
system only two people caused this problem. If it was a list software issue 
I'd expect it to be on a whole lot more (remember the volume of this server).

At 01:57 PM 8/9/01, you wrote:
>So far, I've received this one exactly 40 times . . . . Oh Michael !!
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:22 AM
>Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> > Hey Bruce
> >
> > I got your message 3 times.
> >
> > are you spamming me? :-)
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Zachary Bedell
> >
> >
> > Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
> > If
> > others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
> >
>
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Re: FuseBox

2001-08-09 Thread Toby Tremayne

Absolutely.  I discovered Fusebox over a year after I started coding in 
cold fusion.  For a good while I just kept implementing the parts of it I 
knew as I had time to read the spec and get used to it. Now I code 
everything in fusebox.  The fusebox community is fantastic - and I've found 
coding in this methodology has actually lent me toward writing more elegant 
and sophisticated solutions to things as a matter of course simply because 
of the mindset fusebox methods draw me into.

The mailing list by the way is now run through topica.com.  Easy way to 
join is go to www.halhelms.com (a great place for fusebox info) and use the 
form there.

Toby

At 11:35 PM 8/9/2001, you wrote:
>I agree 100%.  FuseBox is a great tool and allows you to deploy new sites
>rapidly, but not such a great idea to do starting out with a big project.
>Tool around with it first, learn the ins-and-outs and then begin to apply it
>to bigger apps.  It is easy to use, but also easy to screw it up if you
>don't know what you're doing.  In my old shop, we implemented a very clean
>version of it and was extremely easy to use.  Where I'm currently at, they
>have a half-assed implementation of it and it is a royal pain in the
>you-know-what to debug.  It's horrible.  Get the book from Steve Nelson and
>Craig Girard (www.fusebox.org or www.secretagents.com).  It spells it out
>very nicely.  Good luck.  In case you didn't know, there is a fusebox
>discussion forum through houseoffusion also.  There are some really smart
>and helpful people over there that would fall over themselves trying to help
>you. (This means you Lee).  Great resource.
>
>
>Michael Corrigan
>Programmer
>
>\- Original Message -
>From: "Ken Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:36 PM
>Subject: RE: FuseBox
>
>
> > > I have a huge app to build... actually already started.
> >
> >
> > While I happen to like FuseBox and use it for a lot of my projects (where
> > appropriate), I'm not sure that I would suggest you dive into it for the
> > first time on a huge app that is already underway. Particularly if the
> > project is time sensitive. While it's not difficult to learn, it does
> > involve changing the way you do some things and leaves it up to you to
> > decide which parts of it you care to use and which you don't.
> >
> > That said, however, when you do get comfortable with it I think you'll
>find
> > it speeds your development quite a bit. You will, of course, get lots of
> > varied opinions about FuseBox here on CF-Talk...most equally valid from
>the
> > perspective of the person expressing them. In the end you'll have to
>decide
> > for yourself what's best for your situation. But do check it out and try
>to
> > avoid falling for any of those old wivetales about it being mostly about
> > file naming conventions or dictating directory structures.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Fw: Zachary B....

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Hannum

So far, I've received this one exactly 40 times . . . . Oh Michael !!


- Original Message -
From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


> Hey Bruce
>
> I got your message 3 times.
>
> are you spamming me? :-)
>
> Will
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
> If
> others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
>
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(Admin) Duplicates

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz

The messages in question that have been duplicated each have their own 
message-id. This is a unique ID assigned to a post and it not changed by 
the HoF server. If the HoF server is passing 100 posts through then its 
because it's getting 100 posts to pass through. I'm going to see if all the 
different duplicate posts (in this case) are coming through the same server 
or on the same path.
I hate to pass the blame on to others but in this case it looks like it's 
not the HoF servers fault.


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RE: Oracle Stored Procedures

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Watts

> Here is what I am trying:
> ...
>dbvarname="tpcid" 
>   cfvarname="newtpcid" 
>   cfsqltype="CF_SQL_NUMERIC"> 
>
>
> ...
> With the code about, I get a syntax error..

I see two possible problems. First, with TYPE="OUT|INOUT" parameters, the
appropriate attribute isn't "CFVARNAME", just "VARIABLE", I think. Second,
the RESULTSET attribute value refers to the numeric order of the returned
resultset within the set of all resultsets returned by the stored procedure.
So, unless you're returning 999 resultsets before that one, you have the
wrong value.

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RE: cf4 & cf5 verity

2001-08-09 Thread Hinojosa, Robert A

I wouldn't see why not?  in the help, under "configuring verity k2 server"
there are two different modes that verity can run in now.  The old way "VDK"
and the new improved "K2" workhorse.  Since they are small sites, I would
index them with the old "VDK" mode and use those collections on the site.

Best way to know for sure is to just give it a shot.

HTH,

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-Original Message-
From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf4 & cf5 verity


As we all know, there is a problem with CF4.5's verity engine and Adobe PDFs
created in version 4 and later of Adobe Acrobat - they don't index.

Having read around it seems that MM (then Allaire) didn't want to fix it for
4.5 and instead would put the fixed verity implementation into CF5.

OK, thats fine - and we know have servers running CF5 using verity happily.
But, we also have servers running CF4.5 with lots of small websites on them.
We can upgrade these, but this will mean outage that we'd like to avoid if
possible.

To this end, I'd like to know if its possible to use the fixed Verity from
CF5 in CF4.5

Anyone tried this / know if its possible / know how to do it / think I'm a
fool?

cheers for any help...

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CFMAIL in a nested CFOUTPUT

2001-08-09 Thread kraybill

Has anyone figured out a way to prevent CFMAIL from behaving 
like a set of CFOUTPUT tags when it's inside a CFOUTPUT 
GROUP construct?

Consider this greatly simplified code:



some code here for building the content of the email 
message...


my message



It seems that the CFMAIL behaves the same as the simple nested 
CFOUTPUT, i.e., it iterates as an inner loop nested inside the 
CFOUTPUT GROUP, resulting in multiple messages when I only 
want it to send ONE.

I can't use the CFMAIL with a QUERY and GROUP parameter, 
instead of the outer CFOUTPUT, because I need to build the email 
message first with some processing within the inner CFOUTPUT.

Only workaround I've heard of is to build an array within the 
CFOUTPUT, then iterate through that outside the CFOUTPUT. If 
so, it seems like CFMAIL definitely needs a parameter to specify 
whether it loops or simply does a simple send when inside a 
CFOUTPUT GROUP

Ideas?

Gene Kraybill

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RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You

2001-08-09 Thread Braver, Ben

Yes, and don't forget Northern California, please!!
-Ben

-Original Message-
From: Mark Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


How about California?
Mark Campbell

Phil Costa wrote:

> Macromedia's ColdFusion Evangelist Ben Forta is going on an 18-city User
> Group tour to present on ColdFusion 5. This is an excellent opportunity
> to get a first hand look at ColdFusion by one of the industry's best
> known presenters!  Please join Macromedia and our awesome User Group
> community in a city near you.
>
> August 14, 2001
> Chapel Hill, NC CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> Carroll Hall
> Room 111
> UNC Campus
> Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> http://www.ccfug.org/
>
> August 15, 2001
> New Orleans CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> McGlinchey Stafford Building
> 643 Magazine Street
> New Orleans, LA 70130
> http://www.nocfug.org
>
> August 16, 2001
> Oklahoma City CFUG
> 1:30 PM
> The Oklahoma University Health Sciences Center Campus
> Stanton L. Young Biomedical Research Center
> Seminar Room #109
> 975 N.E. 10th St
> Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73104
> http://idgweb4.ouhsc.edu/cfug/
>
> August 20, 2001
> Des Moines CFUG
> 6:30 PM
> GeoLearning, Inc.
> 4600 Westown Parkway Suite 301
> West Des Moines, IA 50266
> http://www.hungrycow.com/cfug/index.cfm
>
> August 21
> Nashville CFUG
> 6:00 PM
> Caterpillar Financial Auditorium
> 2120 West End Ave.
> Nashville TN 37203
> http://www.ncfug.org
>
> August 22, 2001
> Long Island CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> Briarcliffe College
> 1055 Stewart Avenue
> Bethpage, New York 11714
> http://www.licfug.org
>
> August 23, 2001
> Annapolis CFUG
> 6:00 PM
> Calvary United Methodist Church Fellowship Hall
> 301 Rowe Boulevard
> Annapolis MD 21401
> http://www.ancfug.com/ancfugmem.cfm
>
> August 27, 2001
> Mid Michigan CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> Broad College of Michigan State University
> Room N105, 2nd floor
> East Lansing, MI
> http://www.bus.msu.edu/mmcfug/
>
> August 28, 2001
> Indianapolis CFUG
> 5:00 PM
> Northern Indiana Educational Services Center
> 56535 Magnetic Drive
> Mishawaka, Indiana 46545
>  http://www.nicufg.org/
>
> August 29, 2001
> State College CFUG
> 4:00 PM
> University Park Campus (Main Campus) of Penn State University
> Foster Auditorium of the Paterno Library
> State College, PA
> http://www.cfug-sc.org/
>
> September 4, 2001
> Las Vegas CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> Prestige Travel Executive Center - Aztec Room
> 6175 Spring Mountain Road
> Las Vegas, NV 89146
> http://www.sncfug.com
>
> September 5, 2001
> Minneapolis CFUG
> 6:30 PM
> Space150.com
> 212 3rd Ave N, Suite 150
> Minneapolis, MN 55401
> http://www.colderfusion.com/
>
> September 6, 2001
> St. Louis CFUG
> 6:00 PM
> Microsoft Building
> 1 City Place
> St. Louis, MO 63141
> http://www.psiwebstudio.com/cfug/
>
> September 10, 2001
> Hampton Roads CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> Navy Family Services Center
> 7928 14th
> Norfolk, VA
> http://www.hrcfug.org/
>
> September 11, 2001
> Northern Virginia CFUG
> 7:00 PM
> 2214 Rock Hill Road
> Herndon, VA
> http://www.figleaf.com
>
> September 12, 2001
> Washington DC CFUG
> Morning session: 9:00 AM - Noon
> Evening session: 6:30 PM - 9:30 PM
> Fig Leaf Software/RFF Conference Center
> 1400 16th Street, NW (Lobby Level)
> Washington DC 20036
> http://www.figleaf.com
>
> September 13, 2001
> East-Central Illiniois CFUG
> 6:30 PM
> Human Kinetics
> 1607 North Market Street
> Champaign, IL
> http://www.ecicfug.org
>
> Phil Costa
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OT: Tourism Queensland CF site

2001-08-09 Thread Braver, Ben

G'day to our CF mates in Australia.

Have been enjoying the Tourism Queensland site at
http://www.destinationqueensland.com/tq.cfm
Was wondering if someone on the list is responsible - just wanted to say
"good job"!
This site will be a valuable resource to my wife and I in planning our trip.

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(510) 716-2557 pager
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Neil Clark

Whats this muppet playing at?



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Re: POP/IP

2001-08-09 Thread David Burt

I think there is a custom tag on allaire's site that will do this for you.
it basically just does an nslookup if I recall.

David


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Subject: POP/IP


> Dear All
>
> Is there any way, using CF or not, of converting a POP address
> (e.g. pop.mail.yahoo.com) into their IP equivalents.  I know you can
> use JavaScript with Netscape to recall IP addresses, but I need a
> solution which will work with IE5+.
>
> Any help much appreciated
>
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew Scott

Hey will why are you sending so many emails!!!

I have received yours over 100 times!!



> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 10 August 2001 12:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
> Hey Bruce
>
> I got your message 3 times.
>
> are you spamming me? :-)
>
> Will



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CF5 Advanced Security

2001-08-09 Thread Edward Chanter

Guys n Gals,

Is it possible to use a cf4.5 installation as the security server for a cf5
install.???

Or do they both need to be running cf5?


best wishes,

  -= Ed


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CF Studio: Can Regular expression replace form.* ?

2001-08-09 Thread Mark W. Breneman

I need a way to do a replace on text that has a known prefix but an unknown
ending and an unknown length.

An example of this would be to wrap functions around existing form input
value.

I need wrap all my input values with trim()
Each variable has a attribute "form."

Input values:




I need it to look like:




Anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks
Mark W. Breneman
-Cold Fusion Developer
-Network Administrator
  Vivid Media
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  608.270.9770


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RE: CFMail output formatting

2001-08-09 Thread Mark Leder

Thanks - works great.

-Original Message-
From: Tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail output formatting


Mark,

You could do a couple things here.  If you just want var1 and var2 on
separate lines, you could just do this:


You ordered the following products from our catalog:

#var1#
#var2#


By doing this, they will appear on separate lines (non-HTML).
Additionally, you could try this:


You ordered the following products from our catalog:

#var1##chr(13)##var2##chr(13)#


The "#chr(13)#" will translate into a carriage return when outputted by
ColdFusion.

Hope this helps,
Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Mark Leder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail output formatting


In the printed output which gets sent to someone (not using HTML
formatting), how do you force carriage-returns?
For example, var1 and var2 want to run together, without being separated
by
a space:

#var1#

#var2#



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Crystal Reports

2001-08-09 Thread Andrew Scott

Crystal Reports

Does anyone have any good links on how to use this with CF, prefer web
sites or example code. Also I am using V8.0 is this supported under
CF4.5 and CF5.0, or both.

Regards
Andrew Scott





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Re: Session timeouts

2001-08-09 Thread Roger B .

On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 10:10:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>What's the best way to deal with session timeouts when using 
>session vars to grant access to administrative areas of a site on a 
>server where you don't have control of the timeout settings?

I encountered a similar problem with a Fusebox'd app I'm working on.
In non-FB terms, the solution was to:

(1) Have the login page look for the existence of incoming form and
url variables

(2) Serialize them with WDDX, and stuff them in a temporary session
var along with a reference to the URL they were intended for.

(3) Continue with the login process.

(4) After verifying the user's identity, CFLOCATION back to the
original destination page, deserialize anything in the temp variable,
and proceed with processing.

--
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Katherine Maltby

Okayhave got your email thirty timesHELP!



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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 15:22
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread savan . thongvanh


i have gotten this and the original about 10 times now




Will Swain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/09/2001 09:22:23 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:

Subject:  RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Mike Brunt

Bill Gates is at it again mounting a "repetition-of-emails-attack" AKA "Grey
Slug".

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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell

Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
If
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Tyson

make it stop... make it stop... :(

-Tyson

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


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one?
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Lee Fuller

Hey Will...

We got your message 15 times...

Are you spamming us?  ;)



> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Hey Bruce
> 
> I got your message 3 times.
> 
> are you spamming me? :-)
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 
> 14:49
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Zachary Bedell
> 
> 
> Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I 
> the only one? If others are, is there not a way we can remove 
> him from the list?
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CF Scheduler problem

2001-08-09 Thread Braver, Ben

Hi all,

CF 4.5.1 SP2
Win 2K Server
Local intranet

I put a task in the Scheduler via the Admin page.
(It uses cf_mail to send a test alpha pager message to a small group, with a
corresponding confirm message to their mailbox.)

Start date, no End date.
Recurring daily at 11:00:00
Operation: HTTPRequest
URL = .cfm page on a local box

The day I put it in the scheduler (7/30/01), the task worked fine.
The next day (7/31/01) it worked fine.
Since then, it has not worked at all.

Scheduler.log shows:
"Information","TID=752","08/01/01","10:52:35","Refreshing scheduled task
list initiated."
"Information","TID=752","08/01/01","10:52:35","Refreshing scheduled task
list completed."
"Information","TID=1424","08/01/01","11:00:35","Scheduled action Pagertest,
template safari/it/frstest/mailtest.cfm submission initiated."
"Information","TID=1424","08/01/01","11:00:35","Scheduled action Pagertest,
template safari/it/frstest/mailtest.cfm submitted successfully."

But *only* on the first two days did the log show:
"Information","TID=752","07/31/01","15:46:35","Scheduling task Pagertest."
"Information","TID=752","07/31/01","15:46:35","Task Pagertest next scheduled
submission is 11:00:00 AM. "

Any ideas?  Thanks.

Ben Braver
Information Technology
Ultramar Inc.
Golden Eagle Refinery
150 Solano Way
Martinez, CA  94553-1487
(925) 370-3673 voice
(925) 370-3393 fax
(510) 716-2557 pager
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RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You

2001-08-09 Thread Costas Piliotis

Now that's a road trip I'd be willing to make...  Vancouver -> Anchorage =)

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Annis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


Yes, I live in Alaska and it would be great for us 'Northerners' to get some
attention :)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


I've done Seattle and Portland a couple of times, was in Portland not that
long ago.

But Alaska, now THAT sounds like a trip I need to do. :-)

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


I wouldn't mind an Alaska tour =)

Jk...

Seriously though, it would be nice to see Vancouver/Seattle/Portland...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


How about the Buffalo/Toronto/Rochester area?
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


I was in Southern CA last summer, these come first. But yep, I am due
another West Coast visit. I'll make it happen.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


Come on Ben!  Show Southern California some Love

- SVV


- Original Message -
From: "Phil Costa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: Ben Forta and CF5 -- Coming to a CFUG Near You


Macromedia's ColdFusion Evangelist Ben Forta is going on an 18-city User
Group tour to present on ColdFusion 5. This is an excellent opportunity to
get a first hand look at ColdFusion by one of the industry's best known
presenters!  Please join Macromedia and our awesome User Group community in
a city near you.

August 14, 2001
Chapel Hill, NC CFUG
7:00 PM
Carroll Hall
Room 111
UNC Campus
Chapel Hill, NC 27599
http://www.ccfug.org/

August 15, 2001
New Orleans CFUG
7:00 PM
McGlinchey Stafford Building
643 Magazine Street
New Orleans, LA 70130
http://www.nocfug.org

August 16, 2001
Oklahoma City CFUG
1:30 PM
The Oklahoma University Health Sciences Center Campus
Stanton L. Young Biomedical Research Center
Seminar Room #109
975 N.E. 10th St
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73104
http://idgweb4.ouhsc.edu/cfug/

August 20, 2001
Des Moines CFUG
6:30 PM
GeoLearning, Inc.
4600 Westown Parkway Suite 301
West Des Moines, IA 50266 http://www.hungrycow.com/cfug/index.cfm

August 21
Nashville CFUG
6:00 PM
Caterpillar Financial Auditorium
2120 West End Ave.
Nashville TN 37203
http://www.ncfug.org

August 22, 2001
Long Island CFUG
7:00 PM
Briarcliffe College
1055 Stewart Avenue
Bethpage, New York 11714
http://www.licfug.org

August 23, 2001
Annapolis CFUG
6:00 PM
Calvary United Methodist Church Fellowship Hall
301 Rowe Boulevard
Annapolis MD 21401
http://www.ancfug.com/ancfugmem.cfm

August 27, 2001
Mid Michigan CFUG
7:00 PM
Broad College of Michigan State University
Room N105, 2nd floor
East Lansing, MI
http://www.bus.msu.edu/mmcfug/

August 28, 2001
Indianapolis CFUG
5:00 PM
Northern Indiana Educational Services Center
56535 Magnetic Drive
Mishawaka, Indiana 46545
 http://www.nicufg.org/

August 29, 2001
State College CFUG
4:00 PM
University Park Campus (Main Campus) of Penn State University Foster
Auditorium of the Paterno Library State College, PA http://www.cfug-sc.org/

September 4, 2001
Las Vegas CFUG
7:00 PM
Prestige Travel Executive Center - Aztec Room
6175 Spring Mountain Road
Las Vegas, NV 89146
http://www.sncfug.com

September 5, 2001
Minneapolis CFUG
6:30 PM
Space150.com
212 3rd Ave N, Suite 150
Minneapolis, MN 55401
http://www.colderfusion.com/

September 6, 2001
St. Louis CFUG
6:00 PM
Microsoft Building
1 City Place
St. Louis, MO 63141
http://www.psiwebstudio.com/cfug/

September 10, 2001
Hampton Roads CFUG
7:00 PM
Navy Family Services Center
7928 14th
Norfolk, VA
http://www.hrcfug.org/

September 11, 2001
Northern Virginia CFUG
7:00 PM
2214 Rock Hill Road
Herndon, VA
http://www.figleaf.com

September 12, 2001
Washington DC CFUG
Morning session: 9:00 AM - Noon
Evening session: 6:30 PM - 9:30 PM
Fig Leaf Software/RFF Conference Center
1400 16th Street, NW (Lobby Level)
Washington DC 20036
http://www.figleaf.com

September 13, 2001
East-Central Illiniois CFUG
6:30 PM
Human Kinetics
1607 North Market Street
Champaign, IL
http://www.ecicfug.org


Phil Costa
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Tangorre, Mike

I would like to invoke the noMoreEmail function  'noMoreEmail()' and pass it
the name of the person that this email keeps comging from.  :-)  I got it a
bazillion times.

hehehe

Michael T. Tangorre

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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Costas Piliotis

He man.  Sending an email that 21  times is a bit unnecessary.  You're no
better than Bruce...

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Hey Bruce

I got your message 3 times.

are you spamming me? :-)

Will



-Original Message-
From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell


Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Zachary Bedell


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Re: Yipes - its raining ColdFusion 5 books

2001-08-09 Thread Matt Brown



Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:

> Wow, that's sure not a sign that Cold Fusion is "dying" :-)

CF is not going away. :-)

There might be more CF books pound for pound than the total weight of
Minnesota. There is a lot of momentum.
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RE: Zachary Bedell

2001-08-09 Thread Ann Harrell

LOL! It doesn't pay to be a smart @ss does it 

Ann

> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
>
> Hey Bruce
>
> I got your message 3 times.
>
> are you spamming me? :-)
>
> Will
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 August 2001 14:49
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Come on guy...I know you have a brain.  HE is not spamming you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Zachary Bedell
>
>
> Is anyone else out there getting spammed by this guy or am I the only one?
> If
> others are, is there not a way we can remove him from the list?
>
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RE: I don't understand session locking :(

2001-08-09 Thread Mike Brunt

You make a very good point.  My field experience on many different sites is
deal with locking in the development/qa phase.  Watch the Application and
Server logs religiously and lock code as identified in these logs.  Also
watch the Application and Server logs on the live servers and lock code as
identified in these logs.  The bottom line is check these logs at least
daily and whittle down the errors.  I do not subscribe to the
"lock-everything" school of thought and this is from direct real-world
experience.

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-Original Message-
From: Dennis Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(

Maybe I am being a curmudgeon today, but it seems to me that if you ALWAYS
need to lock session and application variables and would never want to use
them without locks then Allaire should have coded that function into it's
core design.


Dennis Powers
UXB Internet
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Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 7:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I don't understand session locking :(

Yes, you need to place a lock around any reads or writes of Session
variables. If you don't lock reads as well as writes, and there's any
possibility of the two operations happening simultaneously (and there
usually is), then the lock you put on the write is useless by itself.
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RE: I don't understand session locking :(

2001-08-09 Thread Dave Watts

> Maybe I am being a curmudgeon today, but it seems to me that if you
> ALWAYS need to lock session and application variables and would never 
> want to use them without locks then Allaire should have coded that 
> function into it's core design.

Maybe so. I can't speak to that, since I don't know enough about the
internals of the CF server.

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