RE: Returning javascript variables to CFMX via hidden fields.

2004-11-17 Thread Pascal Peters
Your option tags don't have values (not something I would recommend). FF
is picking up the text as the value, but IE isn't. Just change your code
to

mystr3 += ((mystr3.length0)?|:) + m2.options[i].text

Of course, a better solution would be to actually use the values of your
options (both in the tags and in your JS functions).

Pascal

 
   var mystr3 = 
   for (i=0; im2.length; i++) {
   mystr3 = mystr3 + | + m2.options[i].value
   }
   document.theForm.result_set1.value=mystr3
 
 }
 

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What sets the domain in default CFID cookies?

2004-11-17 Thread Nick Cabell
I'm having real trouble with my sessions and cookies.

I can observe the CFID/CFTOKEN cookies get set in my browser.
They are set twice, once when I come to the home page and then again when I 
login.
But the confusing part is why the domain name is host.net for one pair and 
then WWW.host.net for the other.

Can someone explain to me what sets the domain value for these cookies?
I am concerned that this is why my session variables seem to be incorrect,
as if there were a shadow session associated with the different CFID/CTOKEN.

Also what determines the expiration - it's 30 years now.
I don't use CFCOOKIE because the CFID/CFTOKEN are set automatically.

I have the following application.cfm (two of them - one at root and one below 
it, but both with the same cfapplication tag)

cfapplication name=mes
clientmanagement=No
loginstorage=Session
sessionmanagement=Yes
setclientcookies=Yes 
sessiontimeout=#CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 1, 0)#

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Same story everywhere, except the US I guess. 

Macromedia is just too late with unique features. It was BlueDragon who
had to come up with the feature of deploying compiled ColdFusion apps
first despite the fact it was widely requested (since v4.0 people
requested it) as a builtin functionality in ColdFusion. And seriously, I
want a product that runs, is stable, but through the years .. ColdFusion
always had the sense of being unstable. = 5 locking up and being thread
unsafe, 6.* too much Java dependent stability .. (increase this heap,
decrease that heap, do this with memory, do that, check for GC size,
monitor this, monitor that..) I just want a product that runs out of the
box stable without setting up several failover instances.. and yes,
under load, not only my average personal administration but also the
applications we sell to our customers. And those issues aren't caused by
bad code.

I am not saying the product is dying but I haven't got the feeling it is
growing either, it remains a niche product and it if I believe our sales
team, they have a hard time selling the product. I am committed in
learning other languages; no Cold Fusion jobs would mean no paycheck.
And if you really look at it, why would you choose ColdFusion?, the only
thing I could come up with is the low learning curve. Every language has
a learning curve, but once you get over it you can use the language like
any other product. The most important things in building applications
are the experiences from previous projects. And looking at ASP.NET, my
apps in C# are astonishing quick, structured, can be deployed anywhere,
and too be honest I didn't found the learning curve to be that steep, it
is just different.


Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380


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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread dave
are you on crack? seriously?


-- Original Message --
From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:52:04 +0100

Same story everywhere, except the US I guess. 

Macromedia is just too late with unique features. It was BlueDragon who
had to come up with the feature of deploying compiled ColdFusion apps
first despite the fact it was widely requested (since v4.0 people
requested it) as a builtin functionality in ColdFusion. And seriously, I
want a product that runs, is stable, but through the years .. ColdFusion
always had the sense of being unstable. = 5 locking up and being thread
unsafe, 6.* too much Java dependent stability .. (increase this heap,
decrease that heap, do this with memory, do that, check for GC size,
monitor this, monitor that..) I just want a product that runs out of the
box stable without setting up several failover instances.. and yes,
under load, not only my average personal administration but also the
applications we sell to our customers. And those issues aren't caused by
bad code.

I am not saying the product is dying but I haven't got the feeling it is
growing either, it remains a niche product and it if I believe our sales
team, they have a hard time selling the product. I am committed in
learning other languages; no Cold Fusion jobs would mean no paycheck.
And if you really look at it, why would you choose ColdFusion?, the only
thing I could come up with is the low learning curve. Every language has
a learning curve, but once you get over it you can use the language like
any other product. The most important things in building applications
are the experiences from previous projects. And looking at ASP.NET, my
apps in C# are astonishing quick, structured, can be deployed anywhere,
and too be honest I didn't found the learning curve to be that steep, it
is just different.


Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380




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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Why? ..

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread dave
[quote]
Macromedia is just too late with unique features[/quote]

huh?

what other platform has as many built-in features as coldfusion?

heres a quote from earlier on another lisr
[quote]I imagined MacroMedia would not turn 
out a template that did not work in all browsers on all platforms[/quote]

2 stupidest things i have heard in a LONG ASS TIME


-- Original Message --
From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:52:04 +0100

Same story everywhere, except the US I guess. 

Macromedia is just too late with unique features. It was BlueDragon who
had to come up with the feature of deploying compiled ColdFusion apps
first despite the fact it was widely requested (since v4.0 people
requested it) as a builtin functionality in ColdFusion. And seriously, I
want a product that runs, is stable, but through the years .. ColdFusion
always had the sense of being unstable. = 5 locking up and being thread
unsafe, 6.* too much Java dependent stability .. (increase this heap,
decrease that heap, do this with memory, do that, check for GC size,
monitor this, monitor that..) I just want a product that runs out of the
box stable without setting up several failover instances.. and yes,
under load, not only my average personal administration but also the
applications we sell to our customers. And those issues aren't caused by
bad code.

I am not saying the product is dying but I haven't got the feeling it is
growing either, it remains a niche product and it if I believe our sales
team, they have a hard time selling the product. I am committed in
learning other languages; no Cold Fusion jobs would mean no paycheck.
And if you really look at it, why would you choose ColdFusion?, the only
thing I could come up with is the low learning curve. Every language has
a learning curve, but once you get over it you can use the language like
any other product. The most important things in building applications
are the experiences from previous projects. And looking at ASP.NET, my
apps in C# are astonishing quick, structured, can be deployed anywhere,
and too be honest I didn't found the learning curve to be that steep, it
is just different.


Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380




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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Euhmm..  ASP.NET? PHP? Name one thing that cannot be done on these
platforms and can be done with ColdFusion.


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RE: Oddball Query question...

2004-11-17 Thread Taco Fleur
Correct me if I am wrong, but would 

SELECT zip
FROM table1
WHERE NOT EXISTS (SELECT zip FROM table2 WHERE zip = table1.zip)

Not be a whole faster?
Using IN would not stop after it found one occurrence, EXISTS would stop
after it finds one occurrence.

Could be wrong, had a long day...

Taco Fleur


 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2004 7:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Oddball Query question...
 
 
 Quick and dirty could be:
 
 SELECT zip
 FROM table1
 WHERE NOT zip IN (SELECT zip FROM table2)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Oddball Query question...
 
 Odd query question MY brain is lagging at 4:00pm... I 
 need some help
 
 Table one has a list of zip codes.
 Table two has a list of zip codes.
 
 I want to compare table one to table two. The results would 
 list ONLY the zip codes that appear in table one that do not 
 appear in table two.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated...
 
 Thanks,
 Jeff
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread dave
what else has progressed as much as cfm in the last yr or so?

.net not much
php - nope
jsp - nope actually probably gone done now that cfm can play with jsp
cgi? lol
perl- haha
asp - whats that?

its 2 am but off the top of my head some of the unique features that i guess 
dont make your list

cfc's, remoting, j2ee deployment, flash forms, the new print functions, new 
reporting functions, flex intrgration, not to mention that flex  flash are 
really build around using coldfusion as the backend, i mean its a pretty long 
ass list and the whole language has been completely rebuilt from the ground up. 
It's been here since the begining and i dont see it going away.

but then again someday .net will get sparkle whoo hoo
cant u wait to get the sparkled version of shorthorn??

sure there are something that could be improved but i seem to notice quite a 
few ppl on here who say things like that are still running 4.5 things change
being cynical doesnt help and if u open up your eyes and see what all they are 
doing with it, its pretty sweet. Now ur on the other side of the world and so u 
may not see it and i think MM needs to do a better job of promoting it but i 
see more things on cfm then i do on new great features of .net

then this comment
Euhmm..  ASP.NET? PHP? Name one thing that cannot be done on these
platforms and can be done with ColdFusion.

ok what builtin featured do they have that cant be done in cfm?


one thing huh?
cfc :)
1 tag printing to pdf without extra dll's
built in reports
theres quite a few

i never said u cant do the same things with other languages but those other 
languages dont have the same stuff built in as features and thats what your 
comment was about.=, lack of unique features as i recall 


-- Original Message --
From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:07:33 +0100

Why? ..

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
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cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread dave
i was cleaning out my harddrive and i came across this file that has lists of 
when certain changes to the cfml launguages took place
not sure how current it is but a lot of ppl mention about thrying to find out 
if a certain function existed say in 4.5 or 4, this should say, havent read it 
but you can here

http://www.jamwerx.com/cfmTaghistory/index.htm

i guess its up to 6.1
 

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Clearly.. If you talk about .NET doesn't have CFC's, or .NET doesn't
have J2EE deployment are you being serious? .. or do you think a CLASS
is a rabbit on a pogo stick? 

For the rest, everything what you just mentioned can be done with PHP as
well as ASP.NET, and once you know the language development times are
the same, or even less but that depends on how you maintain structure
your application. Flash Forms, .. a nice feature for the basic user but
like CFFORM, I don't think it will be used a lot.

You are talking about Blackstone with your features.. euhm .. Blackstone
isn't available yet .. the sales team cannot sell a product to customers
if the product is not available the market, nor it's licensing model
being clear. 

Don't get me wrong, I like ColdFusion, but I do see why companies are
moving away and I can't blame them, and for my own sakes (and the 3
mouths I have to feed at home and being responsible for) I had to widen
my playground to .NET, cause I see the strengths it has as well as the
amount of jobs being available.



Micha Schopman
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Re: apache and muliple CF instances

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
Paella only on sundays.. at 2pm.. precicely!

I missed the virutal host/ virtual directory bit

I shall post more stuff as I come across it.. the other trick that I
implemented was to run a separate instance of Apache.. (on windows) I
shall blog that at some point!

Regards

Mark Drew





On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:52:38 -0500, Douglas Knudsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark, kewl, helpful, but not for what I was wanting to do.  Wow,
 Valencia, eh?  Sweet place, can we say paella?
 
 I did find that I could setup virtual hosts on the same domain under
 different ports and 'map' seperate CF instances to them.  Then
 mod_rewrite can be employed to move requests from foo.com/home to
 foo.com and foo.com/yourhome to foo.com:88.
 
 ...a good day for sure.
 
 Doug
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 01:19:30 +0100, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I blogged on this you might find it helpful
 
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/2004/09/apache-virtual-hosts-php-cf5-and-cfmx.html
 
  Regards
 
  Mark Drew
 
  On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:36:10 -0500, Douglas Knudsen
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ah, the one place I failed to lookup.  danke sir.  Now, I see how to
   do this using virtual hosts in Apache, which appears to be analogous
   to a site in IIS.  Now, what I want to do is create two virtualhosts
   based on the dir.  domain/foo and domain/goo where the domain is the
   same.  Is that possible with Apache?  Maybe I need to create two
   virtual hosts based on ports, domain:80 and domain:88 and use
   mod_rewrite or something?
  
   Doug
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:22:20 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 Ok, I got a box with CFMX installed on JRun, actually have 2
 instances installed, say one is cfusionone and cfusiontwo.
 In IIS I know I can add a new site, via different port or
 host-headers, so that http://domain:80/ uses cfusionone and
 http://domain:88/ uses cfusiontwo.  How to do this in Apache?
  Google is not being my friend the pas two days with this.
 Basicaly I want http://domain/foo to use cfusionone and
 http://domain/goo to use cfusion two.  I can see in
 httpd.conf the stuffs loading the so, but only for the port
 80 root site.
   
In my limited Apache experience, this can be a little difficult but is
certainly doable.
   
However, an additional bit of complexity is that you seem to be asking 
about
two different things. Your IIS example is about having multiple IIS 
virtual
servers, which you can do in Apache using the VirtualHost directive. 
Later,
though, you say you want to use the same virtual server 
(http://domain/) for
both CFMX instances, which is a different thing altogether. To do that, 
each
CFMX instance will require a different context root (/foo, /goo), and 
both
instances will need to be connected to the same Apache virtual server. 
For
more information on this, read Configuring application isolation in 
Apache
within Configuring and Administering ColdFusion MX which is one of 
the CF
documentation books, and which is viewable here:
   
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/cluster8.htm#wp103767
   
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread dave
well did u not say to give u one feature that php or .net doesnt have?
so i did, cfc's,  isnt that what u asked for? and thats a friggin pretty BIG 
feature wouldnt u say? then why try to change your ? now?
so if i say that u dont have to make whole db calls on the pages like .net or 
php, r u gunna say those dont count either, will any of them? does built in 
remoting count either?

and again i say this, i NEVER said that the same things couldnt be done in 
those languages, that was u trying to put words into mouth but i never said that

i commented on your direct quote which was *copied  paste* [quote]Macromedia 
is just too late with unique features[/quote]

so, who gives a rats ass if i do quote blackstone? Least we know the features 
exists, whats coming up in php  .net thats a unique feature, or what has 
come out as a unique feature of any of those u mentioned? Because thats what 
u were talking about wasnt it? having unique features

coldfusion might be the only one who does actually have unique features outta 
the box.

maybe MM is late on those uniqure features but at least it has them.

and you perplex me, you always come on and rip cfm, you are so cynical about it 
so why even use it then?





-- Original Message --
From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:56:59 +0100

Clearly.. If you talk about .NET doesn't have CFC's, or .NET doesn't
have J2EE deployment are you being serious? .. or do you think a CLASS
is a rabbit on a pogo stick? 

For the rest, everything what you just mentioned can be done with PHP as
well as ASP.NET, and once you know the language development times are
the same, or even less but that depends on how you maintain structure
your application. Flash Forms, .. a nice feature for the basic user but
like CFFORM, I don't think it will be used a lot.

You are talking about Blackstone with your features.. euhm .. Blackstone
isn't available yet .. the sales team cannot sell a product to customers
if the product is not available the market, nor it's licensing model
being clear. 

Don't get me wrong, I like ColdFusion, but I do see why companies are
moving away and I can't blame them, and for my own sakes (and the 3
mouths I have to feed at home and being responsible for) I had to widen
my playground to .NET, cause I see the strengths it has as well as the
amount of jobs being available.



Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380





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RE: cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread COLLIE David
 that has lists of when certain changes to the cfml launguages 
 .. i guess its up to 6.1
 http://www.jamwerx.com/cfmTaghistory/index.htm

Cheers dave :)

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RE: cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread dave
thank ya thankya very much i'll be here all week ;)

i was just looking through it and there is some good stuff in there!

think i should zip it up and have it to download?
only prob with that is i have no idea how i got it and if it steps on anyones 
toes

-- Original Message --
From: COLLIE David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:16:37 -

 that has lists of when certain changes to the cfml launguages 
 .. i guess its up to 6.1
 http://www.jamwerx.com/cfmTaghistory/index.htm

Cheers dave :)

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RE: cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread COLLIE David
 think i should zip it up and have it to download?

Yeah... Would be good for out intranet...


 only prob with that is i have no idea how i got it and if it 
 steps on anyones toes

Well, give it a day and if nobody hollers then ... meshrugs / ... Why
not

:)

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave,

Like I said, each platform has it's own syntax. For ColdFusion you have
CFC's, for .NET you have Classes. It is pretty obvious .NET doesn't have
a cfcomponent tag isn't it? 

Remote calls through web pages, .. I prefer xmlHttp, SOAP, or JS RPC
here, they have much less overhead and have been developed for this
specific kind of tasks.

 maybe MM is late on those uniqure features but at least it has them.

and you perplex me, you always come on and rip cfm, you are so cynical
about it so why even use it then?

I am not being cynical, I am being realistic, just like all those others
in this thread who mention they don't see any coverage on ColdFusion in
their country. 

It is just the way the market works, if people buy product A more then
product B they choose product B. If a lot of people do not choose
product A, there will be a lot more jobs for product B. That's the whole
story, and it is plain and simple. 

And you can agree or disagree, that's all right, everybody deserves his
own opinion, and you cannot shake hands all the time, but I am using
ColdFusion for a lot of years now will continue using it for hopely many
years, but this business is hard and very competitive. If our customers
request .NET, .. and even request ports from current ColdFusion
application in production to .NET applications the picture becomes quite
clear.


Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
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Backup MySQL DB... and restore ;-(

2004-11-17 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Hi all

I want to backup my database to a file that is just like a SQL dump.
With mysqldump I can do that. Easy. Then, I just want to be able to
execute that .sql file when I need to restore my database... with
CF... What do you think about?

Cheers

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RE: cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread Pascal Peters
You got it from the MM site. The zip is available for download there!

Pascal

 -Original Message-
 From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 17 November 2004 11:25
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: cfm tag changes
 
 thank ya thankya very much i'll be here all week ;)
 
 i was just looking through it and there is some good stuff in there!
 
 think i should zip it up and have it to download?
 only prob with that is i have no idea how i got it and if it steps on
 anyones toes
 

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Re: Backup MySQL DB... and restore ;-(

2004-11-17 Thread Will Tomlinson
Navicat makes it REAL easy to do this.

www.navicat.com

Will

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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Paul Hastings
Micha Schopman wrote:
 have J2EE deployment are you being serious? .. or do you think a CLASS
 is a rabbit on a pogo stick? 

a rabbit on a pogo stick? maybe you better explain that one.

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RE: category-unlimited subcategory formatted dropdowns

2004-11-17 Thread CFDEV
You could also look at this custom tag that does a great job ..

http://www.niederhausen.net/piet/dev/customtags/traversetree.html

Pat

-Original Message-
From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November 17, 2004 01:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: category-unlimited subcategory formatted dropdowns

I'd call you brilliant but you made fun of my chunk of code ;)  I cant
believe I overlooked repeatstring()!  Thanks you thank you thank you.

Unfortunately I'm not the greatest when it comes to complex sql so I never
looked at nested set to start with.  Care to enlighten? 

My late night is done!  Hoorah!

-e

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 1:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: category-unlimited subcategory formatted dropdowns

First, all those queries are going to be really slow.  The code as-is will
be making n+m+1 queries to generate the dropdown, where n is the number of
individual elements, and m is the number of elements with children.  The
+1 is for the initial query for items with no parent.
 And yes, you can count the same element in both n and m, so worst case
scenario would be 2n queries.

However, depending on what you're doing with the result, that might not
matter.  For example, if you're caching it.  Or, if it's a low-use item,
then it might not be worth the time to optimize.  One alternate route would
be to use a nested set model.

But that's not your question.  To solve the dash insertion problem, make
another optional attribute named 'depth' (or 'level') which is omitted from
the initial call (just like parentItemID) and defaults to zero.  Then add
#repeatString(-, attributes.depth)# before the category name within the
option.  Finally, pass a 'depth' attribute on the recursive calls,
incrementing by one.  So the call with look like
this:

cf_makedump
parentItemId=#getCurrentCat.catID#
dsn=#attributes.dsn#
depth=#attributes.depth + 1#

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:31:31 -0500, Emmet McGovern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a table that contains categories and unlimited subcategories 
 referencing and I need to create a formatted drop down list.  I've 
 been messin around with it for a while and now with no luck.  I need 
 the list
to
 go like so...
 
 Category Name
 --Child of category
 --Child of category
 Child of sub category
 --Child of sub sub category
 --Child of category
 
 I can get the data out in the proper order, I just cant seem to get 
 the -- in there.
 
 I'm using this code as a custom tag which calls itself back again for 
 the recursion.
 
 Thanks for the help
 -emmet
 
 ! --- // Calling the initial tag in the dropdown SELECT 
 name=parentID
 cf_makedrop dsn=#dsn#
 /SELECT
 
 ! --- // now the tag makedrop.cfm
 
 cfsilent
 cfparam name=Variables.ParentItemID default=0 cfif 
 IsDefined(Attributes.ParentItemID)
 cfset Variables.ParentItemID = Attributes.ParentItemID  
 /cfif
 
 CFQUERY NAME=GetCurrentCat DATASOURCE=#attributes.dsn#
 SELECT  *
 FROM category
 WHERE   ParentID = #Variables.ParentItemID#
 ORDER BYname
 /CFQUERY
 
 /cfsilent
 cfloop query=GetCurrentCat
 cfoutput
 OPTION value=#catID# cfif getcurrentCat.parentID is
 0class=lightcell/cfif#GetCurrentCat.name#/OPTION
 /cfoutput
 
 cfsilent
 CFQUERY NAME=CheckForSub DATASOURCE=#attributes.dsn#
 SELECT  *
 FROM category
 WHERE   parentID = #GetCurrentCat.catID#
 /CFQUERY
 /cfsilent
 
 cfif CheckForSub.RecordCount gt 0 
 cf_makedrop
 ParentItemID=#GetCurrentCat.catID#
 dsn=#attributes.dsn# /cfif /cfloop
 

--
Barney Boisvert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
360.319.6145
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Re: OT: ERD for MySQL

2004-11-17 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Mark

do you can test dbdesigner4, a open source MySQL modelling tool...

http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

Cheers

Marco


On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:23:42 +, Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Drew wrote:
 
 Does anybody use any fornt ends to mysql that allow you to do ERD's in
 the way the MS SQL Enterprise Manager works?
 
 Any ideas? I am NOT looking just for a GUI (phpmyadmin, Aqua Data
 Studio et al), but something that I can visually design the tables and
 relationships with .
 
 If its for OS X the better!
 
 
 
 I use Charonware's CASE Studio. (http://www.casestudio.com)
 Its not the worlds greatest ERD modelling tool, but for your money it
 does the job nicely and has reverse engineering tools as a bonus.
 
 Stephen
 
 
 

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RE: CFMX and Access Databases

2004-11-17 Thread Graham Pearson
That was the first driver I tried. It looks like I might have to move 
towards buying an JDBC Driver for Access from some company. Unless I can 
get this solved to give me the time I need to migrate to SQL.



At 08:47 PM 11/16/2004, you wrote:
  Has anyone found a solution to using MS Access Databases with
  CFMX 6.1. I have 4 access databases which everytime cfmx 6.1
  tries to do an update/delete query I get a TCP/IP Connection
  timeout error message and JRUN closes connection. I am slowly
  converting these to mysql or mssql but at the present time I
  need these to run. These applications worked with CFMX 6.0 so
  I am puzzled.
 
  I have been searching trying to find JDBC Driver for access
  and use the similiar method that I am using to connect to the
  mysql server via the jdbc driver.

Have you tried using the Access Unicode driver that comes with CFMX 6.1?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: cfm tag changes

2004-11-17 Thread COLLIE David
 You got it from the MM site. The zip is available for download there!

And here they are for anyone that doesn't have them... Cheers dave and
Pascal

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmlhistory.ht
m

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Re: Update multiple rows

2004-11-17 Thread Graham Pearson
Check out www.yessoftware.com for a Program called CodeCharge Studio which 
I usee to create all of my data entry screens. The money I used to purchase 
this program allows me to save time and not worry about validation or user 
entry issues as it handles this, I then take their code and wrap my own 
headers/footers around the application and have a finished product.


At 11:22 PM 11/16/2004, you wrote:
I need to write an app where the user can update multipe rows from one
screen - like a GRID (but not using CFGRID or similar tags) - needs to
be table based.

I need a starting point to learn how to do this.

Can anyone point me to suitable articles, tutes etc

Thank you muchly

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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
Getting away from Tit for Tat features and wheter CF has more features
than most I think its a sad day that MM walk away and not support any
market. its hard enough in the uk as companies go the M$ root and the
lower end (where CF would shine) people head up to PHP

The deployable apps would be a great way into this market.. of
course.. who pays the licence? the web house or the client?

MD


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Micha Schopman wrote:
  have J2EE deployment are you being serious? .. or do you think a CLASS
  is a rabbit on a pogo stick?
 
 a rabbit on a pogo stick? maybe you better explain that one.
 
 

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Re: OT: ERD for MySQL

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
Ohh! I spotted that the other day and reviewd it!

http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/

Now I want to find something like it for OS X

Pah! I should build one...  if I had the time :( as the SimpleWebFront
plugin is superb!

MD



On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:00:31 -0200, Marco Antonio C. Santos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark
 
 do you can test dbdesigner4, a open source MySQL modelling tool...
 
 http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
 
 Cheers
 
 Marco
 
 On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:23:42 +, Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mark Drew wrote:
 
  Does anybody use any fornt ends to mysql that allow you to do ERD's in
  the way the MS SQL Enterprise Manager works?
  
  Any ideas? I am NOT looking just for a GUI (phpmyadmin, Aqua Data
  Studio et al), but something that I can visually design the tables and
  relationships with .
  
  If its for OS X the better!
  
  
 
  I use Charonware's CASE Studio. (http://www.casestudio.com)
  Its not the worlds greatest ERD modelling tool, but for your money it
  does the job nicely and has reverse engineering tools as a bonus.
 
  Stephen
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Mike Kear
I started this thread off, by expressing doubts about Macromedia
Australia's genuine commitment to the ColdFusion server.   My doubts
were based on a number of things, some things are historical, dating
back to the treatment I received from Allaire and Firmware when I was
trying to get my new business started, and some to the impressions
I've gained looking on through this list and other places.

I wasn't surprised to learn that my original post caused some
heartburn in Macromedia, a flurry of emails and phone calls no doubt, 
and at 10am today I had a call from Mark Blair of Macromedia, who has
posted about this topic here already.  He was rightly anxious to make
sure I had the  right impression about Macromedia and its intentions
towards ColdFusion.

Lets take one thing at a time: 

[A] I said there was only one person working on growing the server
market in Australia.  This is the most important part of the market
for those of us who earn our livings building ColdFusion web sites.
Good growth of servers means we can earn a good living building web
sites.  Poor growth or no growth and we're going to have to change to
working on something else. So it's pretty important.  Well it is to
me.  And I couldnt see what Macromedia were doing to grow it.   When I
asked this specific question at the CFUG last night, no one seemed to
know what Macromedia were doing in this area, or were willing to say,
except that Mark Blair was 'the guy'.   Just Mark.Or else perhaps
no one took my question seriously. Now you all know it was a serious
question, based on genuine concern about my own future..

Well Mark went to great pains to tell me all the stuff they're doing
to grow the server market, and how he's tramping from one end of
Asia/Pacific zone to another.  He's outlined all that here too so I
wont repeat it all.  I think what he's doing is terrific.   I wonder
if one person, plus several others part time  is enough though.

[B] I expressed concern that Macromedia ought to be encouraging
resellers.  Not just a few selected 'favourites' but lots of people,
all selling servers.Historically, I have had very poor support in
this regard from Macromedia.   When i first got started, and was just
tring to get my business going, Firmware wouldnt let me sell a
subscription renewal and told me it was Allaire's policy.  I went all
the way to the top at Firmware with it, before giving up.  Then I had
a spectra deal for about $250.000 lined up, getting close to the
proposal stage, and I made 4 attempts to meet with Allaire (or was it
Macromedia by then) who stood me up once. I went to their office in
Parramatta for a pre-arranged appointment to find no one there.   When
I arranged an appointment for a presentation at my client's, who were
positive and ready to hear teh Spetra story,  the sales guy from
Macromedia (whose name escapes me) told me he wouldnt be letting me in
on the deal, but it would be going to one of the 'favoured' partners. 
Needless to say I wasnt happy seeing a $250,000 deal go to someone
else,specially when I had set it up.  So I let it drop.I never
tried to do business directly with Macromedia again.  They cut me out
of that deal?  I cut them out of every other deal I've done.

I'm a reseller with two of the Macromedia distributors.  In 4 years,
not once NOT ONCE have I seen anything from them about ColdFusion,
except when I specifically asked for prices.   No brochures, no emails
from the, no promotions, no reminders like I get weekly from them
about almost anything else under the sun.   But never anything to do
with ColdFusion.

Now this led me to conclude that Macromedia either didnt want all
manner of resellers and were concentrating on the 'favourites'   or
else they were going to let the whole on-selling thing drop and sell
servers through their web site instead.

Mark assures me this isnt the case, and that they do want to have lots
of us all talking servers to people, and selling server software when
and where we can.  it's not the private domain of a few 'favourites'
after all.

So it appears that, at least as far as I'm concerned, the reason I
havent seen any activity from Macromedia isnt because they arent doing
any, its because [A] I havent read the newspaper they had the story
in, and havent been at the major bank  (when will we actually SEE an
Australian bank using coldfusion so they can stop telling tall tales
about it)  and [B] the distributors for whatever reason are doing
precious little to tell us about how we can sell the product, the way
they do on every other product they have.

If Macromedia are guilty of anything it's not telling us enough of
what they're doing.

I said this morning I hoped I was wrong, and I'm reassured to say I
think I am, even if there are a few people in the channel who need a
bit of a prod along.

Cheers
Mike Kear
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
So you have also noticed the change in the market also. How do you
overcome the Microsoft attention of your prospects? 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
 If Macromedia are guilty of anything it's not telling us enough of
what they're doing. 

And that is why I started about the roadmap story. My managers look at
the roadmaps for products because, they need to make long term decisions
for long term projects and long term contracts. No manager is going to
sell a 500k project to a prospect without any idea of the future of such
a product.


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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Btw .. I am also in the middle of two fights,.. I have build the lasts
11 months intensively on a huge inhouse ColdFusion product (about 2000+
CFC's and CFM files) , and chances are high because it gets cancelled
due to company strategy changes (towards Microsoft), so Thursday I have
to literally fight for the product in a meeting with company management.
This would mean all 80 customers on the system will be ported to
ASP.NET, .. and ofcourse I have not spend those lasts freakn 11 months
on building the project. ;)

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Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
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ESCROW / source code license for CF or BD

2004-11-17 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Does anybody know if Macromedia or NewAtlanta offer source code 
licenses for their CF application servers? Under Dutch privacy 
law processing certain types of information requires you to have 
ESCROW access to the source code in case the vendor goes belly up.

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Re: Backup MySQL DB... and restore ;-(

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
command line is also very easy

mysqldump -u sa test  test.sql

and restore is the same but with 

regards

MD


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 Navicat makes it REAL easy to do this.
 
 www.navicat.com
 
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SQL Query using 'FOR XML' Coldfusion

2004-11-17 Thread Andy Mcshane
Hi all. I am trying to utilise the SQL2000 'FOR XML' functionality to return 
the results of a stored procedure, called from Coldfusion using 'CFStoredProc', 
as an XML string to my Coldfusion app. I am having a few problems;

When I run the query in the SQL query window the results are exactly as I want, 
when I then call the stored procedure from Coldfusion app I get a recordset 
with multiple rows instead of one record containing a string and when I look at 
the 'ColumnList' property of the query I have mulitple columns with a naming 
convention as 'XML_F52E2B61-18A1-11D1-B105-00805F49916B'.

Has anybody managed to use this SQL 'FOR XML' functionality in a Coldfusion app 
before?


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Re: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Greg Morphis
I dont think you are understanding what I'm trying to do..
I already check for server validation on the processing page.
What I'm trying to prevent is from the user to hit submit without
checking a box using client validation... javascript. If they hit
submit I want to display a message that they havent selected
anything... before it goes to the processing page.



On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:57:14 -0500, Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well since checkboxes don't really exist in the scope unless they were
 checked... I usually build cfparams for the fields with the same query and
 loop I built the form fields with. Then use the query loop again to check
 the value of the fields
 
 Basic example
 
 ~--- to build the fields (which you already have ) ---
 cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
 input type=checkbox value=#i# name=fld_#i#br
 /cfloop
 
 !--- then on the action page use the exat same loop that you built the
 fields with to make params for the fields (im sure urs is a query loop)
 So you don't get an error when you try to referecnce a field that wasn't
 checked ---
 cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
 cfparam name=form.fld_#i# default=
 /cfloop
 
 !--- then loop once more to check the values of the fields ---
 cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
 FORM.FLD_#i# = #form['fld_'  i]#br
 /cfloop
 
 You would just use currentrow or a recordID in your query loop rather than
 an index.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:34 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: loop over form objects
 
 I have a page with X number of check boxes on it.
 I have a query which generates these check boxes.
 The query also returns the min and max value of the ID for those check
 boxes.
 Basically creating
 r_23
 r_24
 r_25
 r_26
 ... and so forth.
 I'm trying to loop over these fields to check to see if none are checked.
 for(i=cfoutput#sweeps.minval#/cfoutput;i 
 cfoutput#sweeps.maxval#/cfoutput; i++)
 {
 
 }
 
 In the above scenerio the for loop would translate to
 for(i=23;i=26;i++)
 
 How do I check to see if r_i is checked..
 
 --
 Auxilium meum a Domino
 
 
 

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RE: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
That is pretty basic stuff.. 


script type=text/javascript

var i=document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'].length;
while(i--){
if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i]){
return true;
}
}
alert('you haven\'t selected anything.. ');
return false;
/script

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RE: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
This line should be different.. made a typo

if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i]){

Must be

if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i].checked){

You are checking for the bool checked..

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Re: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Greg Morphis
my elements are named differently.
the first checkbox for example is r_20, next is r_21, r_22, r_23, etc.

Will this work with that in mind?


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:32:35 +0100, Micha Schopman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This line should be different.. made a typo
 
 if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i]){
 
 Must be
 
 if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i].checked){
 
 You are checking for the bool checked..
 
 Micha Schopman
 Software Engineer
 
 Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
 Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 

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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dan O'Keefe
It would be intersting to hear how the meeting went and what the
issues and context was for them to consider scrapping 11 months of
development, if you are able to share that is.

Thanks,

Dan


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:36:12 +0100, Micha Schopman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Btw .. I am also in the middle of two fights,.. I have build the lasts
 11 months intensively on a huge inhouse ColdFusion product (about 2000+
 CFC's and CFM files) , and chances are high because it gets cancelled
 due to company strategy changes (towards Microsoft), so Thursday I have
 to literally fight for the product in a meeting with company management.
 This would mean all 80 customers on the system will be ported to
 ASP.NET, .. and ofcourse I have not spend those lasts freakn 11 months
 on building the project. ;)
 
 Micha Schopman
 Software Engineer
 
 Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
 Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380


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Re: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Greg Morphis
I adapted your function to work...

for(i=cfoutput#sweeps.minval#/cfoutput;i =
cfoutput#sweeps.maxval#/cfoutput; i++)
{
if(document.forms['sweeps'].elements['r_'+i].checked)
{
return true;
}

}
alert('you haven\'t selected anything.. ');
return false;

Thanks, I appreciate it.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:36:30 -0600, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 my elements are named differently.
 the first checkbox for example is r_20, next is r_21, r_22, r_23, etc.
 
 Will this work with that in mind?
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:32:35 +0100, Micha Schopman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This line should be different.. made a typo
 
  if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i]){
 
  Must be
 
  if(document.forms['formname'].elements['elementname'][i].checked){
 
  You are checking for the bool checked..
 
  Micha Schopman
  Software Engineer
 
  Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
  Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
  KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
  

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
I'll post the results here once we're done. I guess our issues are
exactly the same as with any other company selling ColdFusion, customers
choose the safety of the brand Microsoft instead of using their brains
and comparing the results with the costs. That's how it works
unfortunately, it is easier for a manager to explain his manager he has
failed with a Microsoft project than it is with a ColdFusion project
(sounds ridiculous does it?). Then ofcourse we have the sales team,
aware of ColdFusion as a product but knowing the M name saves their
sales pitch, and knowing the M name enables them to raise prices. :)
.. 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

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RE: Update multiple rows

2004-11-17 Thread Jerry Barnes
Below is a link for a DHTML/Javascript spreadsheet.  At the same site, I
found a DHTML/Javascript slider that I modified to work.  You may be
able to do the same with this.  

http://www.blueshoes.org/en/javascript/spreadsheet/

J

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I need to write an app where the user can update multipe rows from one
screen - like a GRID (but not using CFGRID or similar tags) - needs to
be table based.

I need a starting point to learn how to do this.

Can anyone point me to suitable articles, tutes etc

Thank you muchly

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread dave
wouldnt using the words safety and microsoft in the same sentence and have 
a direct meaning to one another be slanderous statement? makes me wanna 
barfff

thats funny, the perception that is.
and thats the exact route i would take to fight it.
running it on a windows server pretty much puts a target on your back, wouldnt 
it be safer to run cfm on a linux server? Not to mention their constant 
updating woes.

and then before u mentioned something about not knowing if what ur proposing 
will even be around in a few yrs.

u mean like m$ did with asp? and im sure will do again with .net

coldfusion was here before asp (if i recall correctly) and it still here now  
it will be here tomorrow, i wouldnt put a mexican peso on .net out living cfm. 
im sure the next version will be called .shortNet haha




-- Original Message --
From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:45:49 +0100

I'll post the results here once we're done. I guess our issues are
exactly the same as with any other company selling ColdFusion, customers
choose the safety of the brand Microsoft instead of using their brains
and comparing the results with the costs. That's how it works
unfortunately, it is easier for a manager to explain his manager he has
failed with a Microsoft project than it is with a ColdFusion project
(sounds ridiculous does it?). Then ofcourse we have the sales team,
aware of ColdFusion as a product but knowing the M name saves their
sales pitch, and knowing the M name enables them to raise prices. :)
.. 

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380





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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
Not so much outlive anything but going back to topic. 

count number of sales reps/evangelisers for CF in Australia
count number of sales reps/evanglisers for Microsoft/ ASP.NET in Australia

Simple.. make a call to noth and see who turns up on your doorstep
first pluggin their wares.

I LOVE CF but Macromedia need to plan on Total Global Coverge,
besides.. I recon a few Macromeedies from London wouldnt mind spending
a stint in Oz ;)

MD




On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:59:43 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wouldnt using the words safety and microsoft in the same sentence and 
 have a direct meaning to one another be slanderous statement? makes me wanna 
 barfff
 
 thats funny, the perception that is.
 and thats the exact route i would take to fight it.
 running it on a windows server pretty much puts a target on your back, 
 wouldnt it be safer to run cfm on a linux server? Not to mention their 
 constant updating woes.
 
 and then before u mentioned something about not knowing if what ur proposing 
 will even be around in a few yrs.
 
 u mean like m$ did with asp? and im sure will do again with .net
 
 coldfusion was here before asp (if i recall correctly) and it still here now 
  it will be here tomorrow, i wouldnt put a mexican peso on .net out living 
 cfm. im sure the next version will be called .shortNet haha
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:45:49 +0100
 
 I'll post the results here once we're done. I guess our issues are
 exactly the same as with any other company selling ColdFusion, customers
 choose the safety of the brand Microsoft instead of using their brains
 and comparing the results with the costs. That's how it works
 unfortunately, it is easier for a manager to explain his manager he has
 failed with a Microsoft project than it is with a ColdFusion project
 (sounds ridiculous does it?). Then ofcourse we have the sales team,
 aware of ColdFusion as a product but knowing the M name saves their
 sales pitch, and knowing the M name enables them to raise prices. :)
 ..
 
 Micha Schopman
 Software Engineer
 
 Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
 Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: ESCROW / source code license for CF or BD

2004-11-17 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Yes, we have standard arrangements for source code escrow for BlueDragon.
Contact our sales team at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info.

Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:37 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: ESCROW / source code license for CF or BD
 
 Does anybody know if Macromedia or NewAtlanta offer source 
 code licenses for their CF application servers? Under Dutch 
 privacy law processing certain types of information requires 
 you to have ESCROW access to the source code in case the 
 vendor goes belly up.
 
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Well.. I must say, and that is because I do both, Microsoft has done a
tremendous job with asp.net. Seriously, you must have worked with it to
be impressed, and I am not quickly impressed, but this time they've put
something on the market which really has alot of potential.  The
development tools need some (some=alot) work, but overall for such a
young platform it is very promising, and it feels and performs very
mature. The availability of controls, community support, frameworks
and customers is very high. 

The stability of Windows boxes is another question, and also on this
point, we run several Win2K3 boxes under high load and the stability is
really awesome.

Well, thursday we'll see what the strategy will be, but I have a bad
feeling about it.

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Re: Backup MySQL DB... and restore ;-(

2004-11-17 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Marco Antonio C. Santos wrote:

Hi all

I want to backup my database to a file that is just like a SQL dump.
With mysqldump I can do that. Easy. Then, I just want to be able to
execute that .sql file when I need to restore my database... with
CF... What do you think about?
  

Aside from using mysqldump, you could also get the freebie version of 
sqlyog 4.0.  I have to be honest and say I haven't looked at it that 
much, but it does look very nice!  Much nice than the pervious versions 
I've got kicking around here.

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How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
Good morning, all...

I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how would I do that?

Select CAL.EmailAddress
   from classroom_access_list CAL
where CAL.EmailAddress
 not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)

What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email addresses in the
classroom_access_list table and the staff table without duplicates...

I've been working on the join approach, but those things just
elude my logic for some reason...can't wait until I'm ready to move to
MySQL 4.1, which supports subqueries...

Thanks,

Rick
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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
I LOVE CF but Macromedia need to plan on Total Global Coverge,
besides.. I recon a few Macromeedies from London wouldnt mind spending
a stint in Oz ;)
  

~lol~ You know there aren't that many MM employees in the UK any more (I 
think its 3 now) and I believe one of those is an escapee... errr I mean 
Australian anyway. ;oD 

Steal some of the american staff instead. ;op




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RE: What sets the domain in default CFID cookies?

2004-11-17 Thread Gaulin, Mark
Is there any chance that the host names are changing across your web site?  
Using both www.xyz.com and xyz.com will cause different sets of cookies to be 
used, even if you use domain cookies.  (But www.xyz.com and abc.xyz.com will 
share cookies when domain cookies are used.)
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Nick Cabell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: What sets the domain in default CFID cookies?


I'm having real trouble with my sessions and cookies.

I can observe the CFID/CFTOKEN cookies get set in my browser.
They are set twice, once when I come to the home page and then again when I 
login.
But the confusing part is why the domain name is host.net for one pair and 
then WWW.host.net for the other.

Can someone explain to me what sets the domain value for these cookies?
I am concerned that this is why my session variables seem to be incorrect,
as if there were a shadow session associated with the different CFID/CTOKEN.

Also what determines the expiration - it's 30 years now.
I don't use CFCOOKIE because the CFID/CFTOKEN are set automatically.

I have the following application.cfm (two of them - one at root and one below 
it, but both with the same cfapplication tag)

cfapplication name=mes
clientmanagement=No
loginstorage=Session
sessionmanagement=Yes
setclientcookies=Yes 
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and walks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
I rest my case :D

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
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Re: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Anders Green
At 09:24 AM 11/17/2004, Rick Faircloth wrote:
Good morning, all...

I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how would I do that?

Select CAL.EmailAddress
from classroom_access_list CAL
where CAL.EmailAddress
  not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)

What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email addresses in the
classroom_access_list table and the staff table without duplicates...

Not too sure, but something like

SELECT DISTINCT EmailAddress
FROM
   SELECT EmailAddress
   FROM classroom_access_list
   UNION
   SELECT EmailAddress
   FROM staff

Since you don't want the two sets of results to actually
key together, a union makes more sense: just append the
results of one to the bottom of the other. Then the distinct
will find all the unique ones. However I just realized
that this may count as a subquery too!

Anders
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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Ryan Duckworth
Without subqueries, I think it is easiest just to use CF's Query of
Queries.
This is close to what you need:

The trick is the last query It uses both queries to filter the
results.

cfquery name=excludeStaffEmail datasource=myDataSource
SELECT S.EmailAddress 
FROM staff S
/cfquery

cfquery name=allEmail datasource=myDataSource
SELECT CAL.EmailAddress
FROM classroom_access_list CAL
/cfquery

cfquery dbtype=query
SELECT * 
FROM allEmail OUTER JOIN excludeStaffEmail
WHERE allEmail.EmailAddress != excludeStaffEmail.EmailAddress
/cfquery

Ryan Duckworth 
Macromedia ColdFusion Certified Professional 
Uhlig Communications 
10983 Granada Lane 
Overland Park, KS 66211 
(913) 754-4272

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

Good morning, all...

I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how would I do
that?

Select CAL.EmailAddress
   from classroom_access_list CAL
where CAL.EmailAddress
 not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)

What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email addresses in the
classroom_access_list table and the staff table without duplicates...

I've been working on the join approach, but those things just
elude my logic for some reason...can't wait until I'm ready to move to
MySQL 4.1, which supports subqueries...

Thanks,

Rick
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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
Sorry I didn't mention this before,
but I'm on CF 4.5.2...no Q of Q's available...  :o(

Rick


  -Original Message-
  From: Ryan Duckworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:47 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?


  Without subqueries, I think it is easiest just to use CF's Query of
  Queries.
  This is close to what you need:

  The trick is the last query It uses both queries to filter the
  results.

  cfquery name=excludeStaffEmail datasource=myDataSource
   SELECT S.EmailAddress
   FROM staff S
  /cfquery

  cfquery name=allEmail datasource=myDataSource
   SELECT CAL.EmailAddress
   FROM classroom_access_list CAL
  /cfquery

  cfquery dbtype=query
   SELECT *
   FROM allEmail OUTER JOIN excludeStaffEmail
   WHERE allEmail.EmailAddress != excludeStaffEmail.EmailAddress
  /cfquery

  Ryan Duckworth
  Macromedia ColdFusion Certified Professional
  Uhlig Communications
  10983 Granada Lane
  Overland Park, KS 66211
  (913) 754-4272

  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:25 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

  Good morning, all...

  I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
  subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how
  would I do
  that?

  Select CAL.EmailAddress
 from classroom_access_list CAL
  where CAL.EmailAddress
   not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)

  What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email
  addresses in the
  classroom_access_list table and the staff table without duplicates...

  I've been working on the join approach, but those things just
  elude my logic for some reason...can't wait until I'm ready
  to move to
  MySQL 4.1, which supports subqueries...

  Thanks,

  Rick
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Output by Fiscal Quarter

2004-11-17 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I have a recordset that I would like to output by Fiscal Qaurter. The
query has a condition to pull only records where the year part of the
DATE_CREATED value equals the passed in year (@filterYear).
 
Id like to output the records by Fiscal Qtr:
 
FY04
 
---QTR1 [Jan-Mar]
-record 1
-record 2
-record 3
-record 4
-record 5
 
---QTR2 [Apr-Jun]
-record 1
-record 2
-record 3
-record 4
-record 5
 
---QTR3 [Jul-Sep]
-record 1
-record 2
-record 3
-record 4
-record 5
 
---QTR4 [Oct-Dec]
-record 1
-record 2
-record 3
-record 4
-record 5
 
How would I go about this in the SQL? I am using SQL Server 2K.
 
Thanks,
 
Mike


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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
MySQL didn't like that one...got a syntax error...

Rick


  -Original Message-
  From: Anders Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:41 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: How do I rewrite this as a join query?


  At 09:24 AM 11/17/2004, Rick Faircloth wrote:
  Good morning, all...
  
  I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
  subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how
  would I do that?
  
  Select CAL.EmailAddress
  from classroom_access_list CAL
  where CAL.EmailAddress
not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)
  
  What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email
  addresses in the
  classroom_access_list table and the staff table without
  duplicates...

  Not too sure, but something like

  SELECT DISTINCT EmailAddress
  FROM
 SELECT EmailAddress
 FROM classroom_access_list
 UNION
 SELECT EmailAddress
 FROM staff

  Since you don't want the two sets of results to actually
  key together, a union makes more sense: just append the
  results of one to the bottom of the other. Then the distinct
  will find all the unique ones. However I just realized
  that this may count as a subquery too!

  Anders
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RE: Output by Fiscal Quarter (SOLVED)

2004-11-17 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I have a recordset that I would like to output by Fiscal 
 Qaurter. The query has a condition to pull only records where 
 the year part of the DATE_CREATED value equals the passed in 
 year (@filterYear).

Nevermind. Used to UDFs. All set.

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Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Emmet McGovern
Anyone know of a way to determine color format in an image with cf.  I need
to know if a file is cmyk or rgb.

Thanks,
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Verity Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread kevin roche
Hi,

I have recently installed CFMX 6.1 on a server that was locked down by the 
hosting company. The server already had CF5 running and I wanted to be able to 
run the two versions on the same box. The server was installe in JRun Mode and 
I have now set up a new virtual server that uses CFMX while the exsiting 
virtual server is running CF5

All seems Ok except the verity pages which says:

You must configure your application server to enable Verity. For instructions, 
see Installing and Using ColdFusion MX. 

I read the manual and it says that verity must have a couple of lines added to 
the JRun parameters. I checked and they are already there.

Anyone know what else I should be looking for ?

-- 
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 Btw .. I am also in the middle of two fights,.. I have build 
 the lasts 11 months intensively on a huge inhouse ColdFusion 
 product (about 2000+ CFC's and CFM files) , and chances are high 
 because it gets cancelled due to company strategy changes 
 (towards Microsoft), so Thursday I have to literally fight 
 for the product in a meeting with company management.
 This would mean all 80 customers on the system will be ported 
 to ASP.NET, .. and ofcourse I have not spend those lasts 
 freakn 11 months on building the project. ;)

If that's how things turn out for you, you should seriously consider using
BlueDragon.NET to preserve some or all of your investment in your current
codebase.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
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RE: Verity Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
What O/S?  On Windows you will need to enable Verity via the Command Prompt
to be a Windows Service (if you want it to be).



-Original Message-
From: kevin roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 November 2004 15:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Verity Installation Problem

Hi,

I have recently installed CFMX 6.1 on a server that was locked down by the 
hosting company. The server already had CF5 running and I wanted to be able
to 
run the two versions on the same box. The server was installe in JRun Mode
and 
I have now set up a new virtual server that uses CFMX while the exsiting 
virtual server is running CF5

All seems Ok except the verity pages which says:

You must configure your application server to enable Verity. For
instructions, 
see Installing and Using ColdFusion MX. 

I read the manual and it says that verity must have a couple of lines added
to 
the JRun parameters. I checked and they are already there.

Anyone know what else I should be looking for ?

-- 
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RE: CFMX and Access Databases

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 That was the first driver I tried. It looks like I might have 
 to move towards buying an JDBC Driver for Access from some 
 company. Unless I can get this solved to give me the time I 
 need to migrate to SQL.

Have you also tried the regular Microsoft Access datasource option, then?

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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu (Consultant)
 I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support subqueries, so I need
to rewrite this as a join query...how would I  do that?

Well, here's a clumsy idea that gets the job done.  Do an outer join (don't
know the exact syntax for MySQL) that gets you two columns in each row:
email address from classroom_access_list and email address from
classroom_access_list.  In your output, you just say if column 1 is blank,
use column 2, otherwise, use column 1.  The values will be deduped by virtue
of the fact that equal values will collapse into a single row.

HTH,
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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 well did u not say to give u one feature that php or .net 
 doesnt have? so i did, cfc's,  isnt that what u asked for? 
 and thats a friggin pretty BIG feature wouldnt u say?

Uh, that's just a language-specific implementation of a feature - the
ability to write class templates. You can certainly write classes in .NET,
and to be perfectly honest if what you really care about is writing OO code
using classes, you'd probably prefer .NET (or Java) to CFML.

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Re: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Cutter (CF related)
Emmet,

I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever cmyk (only 
time I ever really see .png is within a Flash movie). I know when I open 
various ones within PS and look at the Mode under the Image menu all of 
them appear to be either RGB or Indexed color. I also know that, when 
transferring an image from PS to ImageReady, to make a web ready image, 
it always stops me if the image isn't already RGB. Somebody stop me if 
I'm wrong here. Hope some of this helps. Now if the image you are 
testing is not a native web format image (.tiff, .pdf, etc.), that might 
be a different story...

Cutter

Emmet McGovern wrote:

Anyone know of a way to determine color format in an image with cf.  I need
to know if a file is cmyk or rgb.

Thanks,
Emmet





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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Rick Faircloth
I think your Union query worked, Anders.

MySQL wasn't returning an error and I was basing its success
on the number of email addresses returned...what I forgot was
that I was looking at the number of addresses in my development database
instead of the production database...which is about 68 and 700
respectively...

Thanks!

Rick

  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:41 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: How do I rewrite this as a join query?


  At 09:24 AM 11/17/2004, Rick Faircloth wrote:
  Good morning, all...
  
  I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
  subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how
  would I do that?
  
  Select CAL.EmailAddress
  from classroom_access_list CAL
  where CAL.EmailAddress
not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)
  
  What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email
  addresses in the
  classroom_access_list table and the staff table without
  duplicates...

  Not too sure, but something like

  SELECT DISTINCT EmailAddress
  FROM
 SELECT EmailAddress
 FROM classroom_access_list
 UNION
 SELECT EmailAddress
 FROM staff

  Since you don't want the two sets of results to actually
  key together, a union makes more sense: just append the
  results of one to the bottom of the other. Then the distinct
  will find all the unique ones. However I just realized
  that this may count as a subquery too!

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RE: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Anders Green
At 10:40 AM 11/17/2004, Rick Faircloth wrote:
I think your Union query worked, Anders.

A la Stewie from the Family Guy cartoon:

HA! Victory is mine!

;)

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 what else has progressed as much as cfm in the last yr or so?
 
 .net not much
 php - nope
 jsp - nope actually probably gone done now that cfm can play 
 with jsp cgi? Lol

Well, actually, have you checked out ASP.NET 2.0? There's quite a bit of new
stuff coming there. Likewise, in the JSP world, there are all kinds of
relatively new things like JavaServer Faces. I don't know enough about PHP 5
to comment on it, but PHP fans are very excited about new features there.

 cfc's, remoting, j2ee deployment, flash forms, the new print 
 functions, new reporting functions, flex intrgration, not to 
 mention that flex  flash are really build around using 
 coldfusion as the backend

Most of the things you mention here aren't really specific to CF. CFCs are
essentially just classes, you can use remoting with J2EE or .NET (and pay
less for those packages than you would for CF), you can do fantastic
reporting from ASP.NET using the new MS SQL Server Reporting Services (which
are also available through CF). Neither Flex nor Flash is built around using
CF as the back end, either - you can use practically anything to get your
data into Flex.

Personally, I really like CF, as you do. I'm very excited about Blackstone,
especially with regard to the asynchronous processing stuff like event
gateways. But I don't let that blind me to the fact that there are lots of
other competitive products out there, and neither should you.

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 Not so much outlive anything but going back to topic. 
 
 count number of sales reps/evangelisers for CF in Australia 
 count number of sales reps/evanglisers for Microsoft/ ASP.NET 
 in Australia
 
 Simple.. make a call to noth and see who turns up on your 
 doorstep first pluggin their wares.
 
 I LOVE CF but Macromedia need to plan on Total Global 
 Coverge, besides.. I recon a few Macromeedies from London 
 wouldnt mind spending a stint in Oz ;)

Do you really expect Macromedia to be able to field as many product
evangelists as Microsoft? Is that realistic? Would you be happy to cover
their salaries by paying significantly more for CF?

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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Emmet McGovern
That's the issue.  The app I'm writing is a file manager for a print
company. It will index all image formats.  The feature isn't mission
critical; I could always have them add the attribute on file upload.  I was
just hoping to lose a few steps in between.  

-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CF related) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Image color info?

Emmet,

I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever cmyk (only 
time I ever really see .png is within a Flash movie). I know when I open 
various ones within PS and look at the Mode under the Image menu all of 
them appear to be either RGB or Indexed color. I also know that, when 
transferring an image from PS to ImageReady, to make a web ready image, 
it always stops me if the image isn't already RGB. Somebody stop me if 
I'm wrong here. Hope some of this helps. Now if the image you are 
testing is not a native web format image (.tiff, .pdf, etc.), that might 
be a different story...

Cutter

Emmet McGovern wrote:

Anyone know of a way to determine color format in an image with cf.  I need
to know if a file is cmyk or rgb.

Thanks,
Emmet







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Re: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Phill B
I don't know much about MySql but can you do this?

cfquery name=emailList
Select S.EmailAddress from staff S
/cfquery

cfquery name=whatever
Select CAL.EmailAddress
from classroom_access_list CAL
where CAL.EmailAddress
not in ('#ValueList(emailList.EmailAddress, ',')#')
/cfquery

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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread James Smith
 I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever 
 cmyk (only time I ever really see .png is within a Flash 

A gif can't be CMYK, it can't be RGB either, a gif is by definition an
indexed format with it's own colour palette.  A jpg can be either RGB or
CMYK but will not be displayed in IE or Netscape if it is CMYK, you usually
only see it when you receive graphics from Mac using graphic designers used
to designing for print and not appreciating the difference in designing for
screen use.

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave,

PHP 5 has some mayor (and I mean really mayor) changes regarding OO
development, with true classes and full OO support. That is why the PHP
crowd goes mad. 

 Personally, I really like CF, as you do. I'm very excited about
Blackstone,
especially with regard to the asynchronous processing stuff like event
gateways. But I don't let that blind me to the fact that there are lots
of
other competitive products out there, and neither should you.

Bingo... 

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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Look for something like ImageMagik on the Net, there are a few nice
apps/tags out there which do this.

-Original Message-
From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 November 2004 15:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Image color info?

That's the issue.  The app I'm writing is a file manager for a print
company. It will index all image formats.  The feature isn't mission
critical; I could always have them add the attribute on file upload.  I was
just hoping to lose a few steps in between.  

-Original Message-
From: Cutter (CF related) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Image color info?

Emmet,

I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever cmyk (only 
time I ever really see .png is within a Flash movie). I know when I open 
various ones within PS and look at the Mode under the Image menu all of 
them appear to be either RGB or Indexed color. I also know that, when 
transferring an image from PS to ImageReady, to make a web ready image, 
it always stops me if the image isn't already RGB. Somebody stop me if 
I'm wrong here. Hope some of this helps. Now if the image you are 
testing is not a native web format image (.tiff, .pdf, etc.), that might 
be a different story...

Cutter

Emmet McGovern wrote:

Anyone know of a way to determine color format in an image with cf.  I need
to know if a file is cmyk or rgb.

Thanks,
Emmet









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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 Euhmm..  ASP.NET? PHP? Name one thing that cannot be done on 
 these platforms and can be done with ColdFusion.

Clean, painless J2EE integration?

The fact is, you can do pretty much anything with any of these products. The
hands-down advantage of CF, in my opinion, is that you can do most of the
common, important things very easily.

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RE: apache and muliple CF instances

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 I did find that I could setup virtual hosts on the same 
 domain under different ports and 'map' seperate CF instances 
 to them.  Then mod_rewrite can be employed to move requests 
 from foo.com/home to foo.com and foo.com/yourhome to foo.com:88.

Out of curiosity, why do you want separate virtual hosts at all?

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Re: What sets the domain in default CFID cookies?

2004-11-17 Thread Nick Cabell
I guess I'm not sure what would cause them to change, but I can see the result 
of it in the different cookies. Doesn't happen on dev machine where it is 
always localhost. What determines the domain value for CFIF/CFTOKEN cookies and 
how can I prevent it?

 Is there any chance that the host names are changing across your web 
 site?  Using both www.xyz.com and xyz.com will cause different sets of 
 cookies to be used, even if you use domain cookies.  (But www.xyz.
 com and abc.xyz.com will share cookies when domain cookies are used.)
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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Emmet McGovern
I wrote the original question assuming everyone knew I was talking about
jpg.  Although it would be nice to be able to determine ai, tiff, psd, eps
but I can just assume that they are cmyk to begin with and so can the
printer. The problem exists with reading any jpg's in the directory.

-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Image color info?

 I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever 
 cmyk (only time I ever really see .png is within a Flash 

A gif can't be CMYK, it can't be RGB either, a gif is by definition an
indexed format with it's own colour palette.  A jpg can be either RGB or
CMYK but will not be displayed in IE or Netscape if it is CMYK, you usually
only see it when you receive graphics from Mac using graphic designers used
to designing for print and not appreciating the difference in designing for
screen use.

--
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RE: Verity Installation Problem

2004-11-17 Thread kevin roche
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It is Windows, but I never needed to do that before. Any ideas why this is 
different?

How do I do I make it a Windows Service? What if I don't want to do that?

Kevin 

Quoting Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 What O/S?  On Windows you will need to enable Verity via the Command Prompt
 to be a Windows Service (if you want it to be).
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: kevin roche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 17 November 2004 15:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Verity Installation Problem
 
 Hi,
 
 I have recently installed CFMX 6.1 on a server that was locked down by the 
 hosting company. The server already had CF5 running and I wanted to be able
 to 
 run the two versions on the same box. The server was installe in JRun Mode
 and 
 I have now set up a new virtual server that uses CFMX while the exsiting 
 virtual server is running CF5
 
 All seems Ok except the verity pages which says:
 
 You must configure your application server to enable Verity. For
 instructions, 
 see Installing and Using ColdFusion MX. 
 
 I read the manual and it says that verity must have a couple of lines added
 to 
 the JRun parameters. I checked and they are already there.
 
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Re: How do I rewrite this as a join query?

2004-11-17 Thread Keith Gaughan
Rick Faircloth wrote:

 I'm using MySQL (4.0) version, which doesn't support
 subqueries, so I need to rewrite this as a join query...how would I do that?
 
 Select CAL.EmailAddress
from classroom_access_list CAL
 where CAL.EmailAddress
  not in (Select S.EmailAddress from staff S)
 
 What I'm after is a query that gives me all the email addresses in the
 classroom_access_list table and the staff table without duplicates...
 
 I've been working on the join approach, but those things just
 elude my logic for some reason...can't wait until I'm ready to move to
 MySQL 4.1, which supports subqueries...

SELECT  DISTINCT COALESCE(s.EmailAddress, cal.EmailAddress) EmailAddress
FROMclassroom_access_list cal
FULL OUTER JOIN staff s ON s.EmailAddress = cal.EmailAddress

Or something like that.

K.

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 I'll post the results here once we're done. I guess our 
 issues are exactly the same as with any other company selling 
 ColdFusion, customers choose the safety of the brand 
 Microsoft instead of using their brains and comparing the 
 results with the costs. That's how it works unfortunately, it 
 is easier for a manager to explain his manager he has failed 
 with a Microsoft project than it is with a ColdFusion project 
 (sounds ridiculous does it?). Then ofcourse we have the sales 
 team, aware of ColdFusion as a product but knowing the M 
 name saves their sales pitch, and knowing the M name 
 enables them to raise prices. :) ..

Unfortunately, you're correct about this. However, it's not really
ridiculous at all. People have a limited amount of time to learn about
competing products, so all things being equal you're better off choosing the
product from the company you know about rather than the one you don't.

The key to success here is not to fail with your CF projects. Of course,
that's easy to say, but I think that's really your only hope. I prefer CF to
.NET simply because I think projects are more likely to succeed.

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RE: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 wouldnt using the words safety and microsoft in the same 
 sentence and have a direct meaning to one another be 
 slanderous statement? makes me wanna barfff
 
 thats funny, the perception that is.
 and thats the exact route i would take to fight it.
 running it on a windows server pretty much puts a target on 
 your back, wouldnt it be safer to run cfm on a linux 
 server? Not to mention their constant updating woes.

This kind of visceral, irrational anti-MS sentiment doesn't really help sell
non-MS products. Lots of people use MS products successfully and safely, and
just dismiss any rational arguments you might actually have if they're
preceded by this. Lots of people run secure Windows servers, and lots of
people run insecure Linux servers.

 and then before u mentioned something about not knowing if 
 what ur proposing will even be around in a few yrs.
 
 u mean like m$ did with asp? and im sure will do again with .net

Classic ASP is still here - there's nothing stopping you from running your
ASP applications on Windows Server 2003, for example. Most web applications
have a relatively short lifespan anyway.

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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Mark Drew
rant
No, that I wouldnt but surely Australia (and probably that includes
New Zealand and South Africa) is a large enough area to need more than
one person out there.. then again its a demand vs supply thing.

Here in spain CF is pretty low (where I am at any rate) But I know
that in the capital there is more activity. I am sure that one MM
person for the whole of Europe would be a kinda small testimate.

It would sadden me to see MM leave any territory, but as has been said
in this list, survive or die. If PHP is becoming glorious (no ££ to
buy and avalable on nearly all platforms) its an amazing testament to
no marketing forces right?

With the ASP.NET stuff I am kinda dubious as has been said before but
then again Microsoft can aford to saturate and do what the hell it
likes as it can make it a  loss leader just so that people have to buy
Visual Studio.

Would MM do that to Coldfusion to let them sell more licences for
Dreamweaver? Maybe ship a free version of CF with every copy of
dreamweaver?

I think CF and the related technologies (fusebox for example) is
great, love it. but is MM really on the decline financially? (not
rethorical question.. I simply dont know or have the time to check
out)

As the market fragments I think CF wil find its niche (look at the
proposed features of Blackstone) and work it until that dries up and
then change the feature focus. As with any product really.
/rant
plug
I hope CF and MM keep gonig.. means that more people get to use CFEclipse!
/plug

My 50 eurocents worth
MD
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:55:27 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not so much outlive anything but going back to topic.
 
  count number of sales reps/evangelisers for CF in Australia
  count number of sales reps/evanglisers for Microsoft/ ASP.NET
  in Australia
 
  Simple.. make a call to noth and see who turns up on your
  doorstep first pluggin their wares.
 
  I LOVE CF but Macromedia need to plan on Total Global
  Coverge, besides.. I recon a few Macromeedies from London
  wouldnt mind spending a stint in Oz ;)
 
 Do you really expect Macromedia to be able to field as many product
 evangelists as Microsoft? Is that realistic? Would you be happy to cover
 their salaries by paying significantly more for CF?
 
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 http://www.figleaf.com/
 phone: 202-797-5496
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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Dave nailed it here:

 The fact is, you can do pretty much anything with any of these products. 
 The
 hands-down advantage of CF, in my opinion, is that you can do most of the
 common, important things very easily.


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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Greg Morphis
Their stocks aren't doing too bad.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MACR


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:20:24 -0800, Bryan Stevenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave nailed it here:
 
  The fact is, you can do pretty much anything with any of these products.
  The
  hands-down advantage of CF, in my opinion, is that you can do most of the
  common, important things very easily.
 
 
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 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
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Re: Macromedia gives up on the server market in Australia and wal ks away.

2004-11-17 Thread Lawrence Ng
yeah... when I first started years ago as a rookie, I could not believe
how easy it was to connect to a db and write out your queries freely
without worrying about line breaks, not appending correctly, etc. and
all inside a tag to boot.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2004 8:20:24 AM 
Dave nailed it here:

 The fact is, you can do pretty much anything with any of these
products. 
 The
 hands-down advantage of CF, in my opinion, is that you can do most of
the
 common, important things very easily.


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VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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fax: 250.480.1264
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DevNet Version of CFMX adds rubbish to the start of my HTML.

2004-11-17 Thread kevin roche
Hi,

I am trying to build pages for the first time with XHTML and the validators in 
both Homesite and Dreamweaver seem only to do half the job. I am trying to 
point the W3C validator at my development machine which is running the 
multiuser devnet version of my site but the server adds an extra line at the 
front of the file and the result is invalid.

Anyone know how to get rid of the line?

META NAME=ColdFusionMXEdition CONTENT=ColdFusion DevNet Edition - Not for 
Production Use.

The MM site says use cfcontent to make the file text/xml but then it does not 
work in a browser and I need to have both.

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Verity Search string assistance

2004-11-17 Thread Dennis Powers
We are still using CF5 and the built in verity engine with excellent
success. However, every once in a while the search page generates an error
within the cfsearch tag that tells us that an invalid character was passed
in the search string.

We have written a filter that removes non-alphanumeric characters from the
search string, but every now and then someone finds a way to enter a search
string that our filter doesn't catch and generates an error.

Does anyone have a definitive filter for the search string that will insure
that CFSearch will not complain?


Best Regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet- A Website Design and Hosting Company
690 Wolcott Road - P.O. Box 6028
Wolcott, CT 06716tel: (203)879-2844
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Re: apache and muliple CF instances

2004-11-17 Thread Douglas Knudsen
We have a server on our intranet hosting several CF apps all under one
CFMX instance.  A couple of these apps have grown in popularity and
I'd like to run thme under a seperate CFMX instance BUT retain the URL
path.  Running https too, so IIRC, can't use host headers.   We are
using IIS now, can add a new site but has to be a diff port, hence the
URL path changes.  Looks like I'll just have to work with a redirect
and get everyone to add a new bookmark, eh?

Doug

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:10:18 -0500, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did find that I could setup virtual hosts on the same
  domain under different ports and 'map' seperate CF instances
  to them.  Then mod_rewrite can be employed to move requests
  from foo.com/home to foo.com and foo.com/yourhome to foo.com:88.
 
 Out of curiosity, why do you want separate virtual hosts at all?
 
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Re: Verity Search string assistance

2004-11-17 Thread Raymond Camden
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=760

Enjoy


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:33:44 -0500, Dennis Powers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are still using CF5 and the built in verity engine with excellent
 success. However, every once in a while the search page generates an error
 within the cfsearch tag that tells us that an invalid character was passed
 in the search string.
 
 We have written a filter that removes non-alphanumeric characters from the
 search string, but every now and then someone finds a way to enter a search
 string that our filter doesn't catch and generates an error.
 
 Does anyone have a definitive filter for the search string that will insure
 that CFSearch will not complain?
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Dennis Powers
 UXB Internet- A Website Design and Hosting Company
 690 Wolcott Road - P.O. Box 6028
 Wolcott, CT 06716tel: (203)879-2844
 http://www.uxbinternet.com
 http://dennis.uxb.net
 
 

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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread James Smith
I think http://www.intrafoundation.com/CFX_ImageInfoMX.asp will do what you
ask.

--
Jay 

 -Original Message-
 From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 17 November 2004 16:03
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Image color info?
 
 I wrote the original question assuming everyone knew I was 
 talking about jpg.  Although it would be nice to be able to 
 determine ai, tiff, psd, eps but I can just assume that they 
 are cmyk to begin with and so can the printer. The problem 
 exists with reading any jpg's in the directory.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Image color info?
 
  I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever 
 cmyk (only 
  time I ever really see .png is within a Flash
 
 A gif can't be CMYK, it can't be RGB either, a gif is by 
 definition an indexed format with it's own colour palette.  A 
 jpg can be either RGB or CMYK but will not be displayed in IE 
 or Netscape if it is CMYK, you usually only see it when you 
 receive graphics from Mac using graphic designers used to 
 designing for print and not appreciating the difference in 
 designing for screen use.
 
 --
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RE: apache and muliple CF instances

2004-11-17 Thread Dave Watts
 We have a server on our intranet hosting several CF apps all 
 under one CFMX instance.  A couple of these apps have grown 
 in popularity and I'd like to run thme under a seperate CFMX 
 instance BUT retain the URL
 path.  Running https too, so IIRC, can't use host headers.   We are
 using IIS now, can add a new site but has to be a diff port, 
 hence the URL path changes.  Looks like I'll just have to 
 work with a redirect and get everyone to add a new bookmark, eh?

Why not just use one virtual web server connected to two different CFMX/JRun
instances using different context roots?

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Re: payment gateway question

2004-11-17 Thread DRE
nobody every heard of them?


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:18:56 -0800, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I have a client who wants to run credit cards thru a processor /
 gateway called WorkSmartPros.com who uses Cornerstone as their
 Merchant processor.
 
 Anybody got any feedback on these people and how easy it is to deal
 with their system, uptime, etc?
 
 Or perhaps I should be asking for best recomendations.  She seems to
 think that authorize.net is more expensive.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
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 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com
 


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RE: Image color info?

2004-11-17 Thread Emmet McGovern
I totally forgot about that site.  It should get the wacky cf site of the
millennia award.  Or something like that.

I put together a nice server manager with his hosting toolkit a long time
ago. I wonder if any of that stuff works with IIS/win2003 these days.

BTW...  the tag works like a charm.  Hopefully the server will appreciate
the atomic warfare that I've unleashed upon it.

-e

-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Image color info?

I think http://www.intrafoundation.com/CFX_ImageInfoMX.asp will do what you
ask.

--
Jay 

 -Original Message-
 From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 17 November 2004 16:03
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Image color info?
 
 I wrote the original question assuming everyone knew I was 
 talking about jpg.  Although it would be nice to be able to 
 determine ai, tiff, psd, eps but I can just assume that they 
 are cmyk to begin with and so can the printer. The problem 
 exists with reading any jpg's in the directory.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:51 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Image color info?
 
  I don't know as I've ever seen a .gif or .jpg that was ever 
 cmyk (only 
  time I ever really see .png is within a Flash
 
 A gif can't be CMYK, it can't be RGB either, a gif is by 
 definition an indexed format with it's own colour palette.  A 
 jpg can be either RGB or CMYK but will not be displayed in IE 
 or Netscape if it is CMYK, you usually only see it when you 
 receive graphics from Mac using graphic designers used to 
 designing for print and not appreciating the difference in 
 designing for screen use.
 
 --
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RE: payment gateway question

2004-11-17 Thread Emmet McGovern
Check out www.modernauthorize.com It doesn't really answer your original
question, but its pretty competitive.  The same company also runs
www.sslfactory.com very cheap ssl certs.  

I had a client try to grope me after the amount she saved from switching
from the Verisign/CSI/Thawte money pit.

-e

-Original Message-
From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: payment gateway question

nobody every heard of them?


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:18:56 -0800, DRE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I have a client who wants to run credit cards thru a processor /
 gateway called WorkSmartPros.com who uses Cornerstone as their
 Merchant processor.
 
 Anybody got any feedback on these people and how easy it is to deal
 with their system, uptime, etc?
 
 Or perhaps I should be asking for best recomendations.  She seems to
 think that authorize.net is more expensive.
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
 DRE
 www.webmachineinc.com
 www.theanticool.com
 


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Re: loop over form objects - using JavaScript - Client Validation

2004-11-17 Thread Ron Gowen
I believe this is what you are looking for:


script type=text/javascript

function validateFields(oForm) {
var colorChecked = 0;

for (var i=0; ioForm.color.length; i++) {
if (oForm.color[i].checked) {
colorChecked++;
break;
}
}
if (colorChecked == 0) {
alert(Please Choose at least one color!);
return false;
}
return true;
}
/script
form name=rColor action= method=post onsubmit=return
validateFields(this);
redinput type=radio name=color value=red /br /
blueinput type=radio name=color value=blue / br /
greeninput type=radio name=color value=green / br /
input type=submit value=test The Script /
/form


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:16:27 -0600, Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I dont think you are understanding what I'm trying to do..
 I already check for server validation on the processing page.
 What I'm trying to prevent is from the user to hit submit without
 checking a box using client validation... javascript. If they hit
 submit I want to display a message that they havent selected
 anything... before it goes to the processing page.
 
 On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:57:14 -0500, Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well since checkboxes don't really exist in the scope unless they were
  checked... I usually build cfparams for the fields with the same query and
  loop I built the form fields with. Then use the query loop again to check
  the value of the fields
 
  Basic example
 
  ~--- to build the fields (which you already have ) ---
  cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
  input type=checkbox value=#i# name=fld_#i#br
  /cfloop
 
  !--- then on the action page use the exat same loop that you built the
  fields with to make params for the fields (im sure urs is a query loop)
  So you don't get an error when you try to referecnce a field that wasn't
  checked ---
  cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
  cfparam name=form.fld_#i# default=
  /cfloop
 
  !--- then loop once more to check the values of the fields ---
  cfloop from=1 to=10 index=i
  FORM.FLD_#i# = #form['fld_'  i]#br
  /cfloop
 
  You would just use currentrow or a recordID in your query loop rather than
  an index.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:34 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: loop over form objects
 
  I have a page with X number of check boxes on it.
  I have a query which generates these check boxes.
  The query also returns the min and max value of the ID for those check
  boxes.
  Basically creating
  r_23
  r_24
  r_25
  r_26
  ... and so forth.
  I'm trying to loop over these fields to check to see if none are checked.
  for(i=cfoutput#sweeps.minval#/cfoutput;i 
  cfoutput#sweeps.maxval#/cfoutput; i++)
  {
 
  }
 
  In the above scenerio the for loop would translate to
  for(i=23;i=26;i++)
 
  How do I check to see if r_i is checked..
 
  --
  Auxilium meum a Domino
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: SQL Query using 'FOR XML' Coldfusion

2004-11-17 Thread Rob
Yes, you have to loop over the query columns and build a new string
with the columns data.

The way you go about it is pretty wacky and I forget the syntax, but I
(and others) have posted how to do it to the list at one point so it
should be in the archive (it was like a year ago though)

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 07:58:42 -0400, Andy Mcshane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all. I am trying to utilise the SQL2000 'FOR XML' functionality to return 
 the results of a stored procedure, called from Coldfusion using 
 'CFStoredProc', as an XML string to my Coldfusion app. I am having a few 
 problems;
 
 When I run the query in the SQL query window the results are exactly as I 
 want, when I then call the stored procedure from Coldfusion app I get a 
 recordset with multiple rows instead of one record containing a string and 
 when I look at the 'ColumnList' property of the query I have mulitple columns 
 with a naming convention as 'XML_F52E2B61-18A1-11D1-B105-00805F49916B'.
 
 Has anybody managed to use this SQL 'FOR XML' functionality in a Coldfusion 
 app before?
 
 

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CFC form handling

2004-11-17 Thread Ian Skinner
I am stumped here.

I am trying to learn how to utilize the full power of CFC's in a better 
practice way (working my way towards best practices).  I am building an 
administrative application.  I have put the queries into a data CFC, my 
business logic into its own CFC, and thus leaving the display code in its own 
CFM file.

This has been working well so far, but I have found my self in a dark alley and 
I can not see how to code myself out of it.  I'm looking for some basic 
strategy suggestions on how to build this in a more OO/multi-tier and less 
procedural way.

The path I have followed so far is something like this:

Form.cfm 
This is just what it says, a file that contains a form.

App.cfc 
This file is a middleman CFC that the form submits to using the following 
structure.  My current thinking is that this file is doing the validation and 
verification of the data submitted from the form according to the business 
needs.
form action=app.cfc...
   input type=hidden name=method value=formMethod
   ...
/form

Data.cfc
This is the CFC that the App.cfc utilizes to actually get the data from the 
form into the database.  It contains the database logic and SQL statements.

The trouble I am experiencing is that the logic in the app.cfc has two exits.  
First of all, my understanding of best practices makes me feel that this may be 
a bad result of itself, but I do not see a way to rearrange the pieces of my 
code to eliminate this.  Secondly, even if I accept the two exits from the 
App.cfc method, I can't figure a way to actually make it work.

The problem is that the formMethod() function is checking the data from the 
form, if the data is valid; it calls the appropriate method of the data.cfc to 
get the data into the database.  But what do I do when the data is invalid?  
The program flow needs to somehow get back to the form with information about 
why the data is invalid, so that the user can be prompted to correct the errors.

Since the form has been submitted to the App.cfc that is where the logic 
pointer is currently located.  In other words, if I don't do anything to 
relocate and just finish processing, the URL of the browser will be such as 
http://aWebSite/app.cfc;.   So how can I get the location and the error data 
back to the form.cfm file?  

I tried to store the error data in the session scope to persist it and then us 
a cflocation..., but that does not seem to work.  When I dump the session 
scope in the form file, it is unaware of any of the values set in the app.cfc 
code.  I think I have run into this problem before.  It seems that if one 
submits forms to cfc methods for processing, this cfc has a separate world of 
persistent variables.  I can set and output values in application or session 
scope in the cfc, but not from files that come after the cfc.

So can somebody guide me to a better way to organize my logic so that I do not 
have the two exits currently required from the app.cfc formMethod() function?  
Or at least help me figure out how to get the data from this method back to the 
originating form?

Thank you much.

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Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA

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Re: CFC form handling

2004-11-17 Thread Doug James
Could you pass in the Form.cfm url along with the form, hidden fields 
maybe. Then if the data is valid go to a function that calls Data.cfc or 
if the data is invalid then it goes to a function that returns the form 
fields back to Form.cfm using the url parameter.

Just a thought.

I have been mulling the idea of using cfc's in a similar method.

Doug

Ian Skinner wrote:

I am stumped here.

I am trying to learn how to utilize the full power of CFC's in a better 
practice way (working my way towards best practices).  I am building an 
administrative application.  I have put the queries into a data CFC, my 
business logic into its own CFC, and thus leaving the display code in its own 
CFM file.

This has been working well so far, but I have found my self in a dark alley 
and I can not see how to code myself out of it.  I'm looking for some basic 
strategy suggestions on how to build this in a more OO/multi-tier and less 
procedural way.

The path I have followed so far is something like this:

Form.cfm 
This is just what it says, a file that contains a form.

App.cfc 
This file is a middleman CFC that the form submits to using the following 
structure.  My current thinking is that this file is doing the validation and 
verification of the data submitted from the form according to the business 
needs.
form action=app.cfc...
   input type=hidden name=method value=formMethod
   ...
/form

Data.cfc
This is the CFC that the App.cfc utilizes to actually get the data from the 
form into the database.  It contains the database logic and SQL statements.

The trouble I am experiencing is that the logic in the app.cfc has two exits.  
First of all, my understanding of best practices makes me feel that this may 
be a bad result of itself, but I do not see a way to rearrange the pieces of 
my code to eliminate this.  Secondly, even if I accept the two exits from the 
App.cfc method, I can't figure a way to actually make it work.

The problem is that the formMethod() function is checking the data from the 
form, if the data is valid; it calls the appropriate method of the data.cfc to 
get the data into the database.  But what do I do when the data is invalid?  
The program flow needs to somehow get back to the form with information about 
why the data is invalid, so that the user can be prompted to correct the 
errors.

Since the form has been submitted to the App.cfc that is where the logic 
pointer is currently located.  In other words, if I don't do anything to 
relocate and just finish processing, the URL of the browser will be such as 
http://aWebSite/app.cfc;.   So how can I get the location and the error data 
back to the form.cfm file?  

I tried to store the error data in the session scope to persist it and then us 
a cflocation..., but that does not seem to work.  When I dump the session 
scope in the form file, it is unaware of any of the values set in the app.cfc 
code.  I think I have run into this problem before.  It seems that if one 
submits forms to cfc methods for processing, this cfc has a separate world of 
persistent variables.  I can set and output values in application or session 
scope in the cfc, but not from files that come after the cfc.

So can somebody guide me to a better way to organize my logic so that I do not 
have the two exits currently required from the app.cfc formMethod() function?  
Or at least help me figure out how to get the data from this method back to 
the originating form?

Thank you much.

--
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Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA

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