Cfgrid on CFMX 6.1

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Jarrett
I've just moved an app from CF4.5 to CFMX 6.1. All seems fine except
for CFGRID. It is displaying fine but when i update the grid im
getting the following error message:

Error casting an object of type to an incompatible type. This usually
indicates a programming error in Java, although it could also mean you
have tried to use a foreign object in a different way than it was
designed

This only happens when i change a value. If i don't change anything
and hit submit all seems fine.

Is it possible to write a SQL update for cfgrid or does it have to
go through cfgridupdate?

Cheers

Andy J
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Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
to date?
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html

I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
Anybody got something like that knocking round?

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Re: Cfgrid on CFMX 6.1

2005-02-04 Thread sathya v
Hi 

there is some Hot fix for CFgrid iuuse in CFmx try install hotfix 


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:58:25 +, Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just moved an app from CF4.5 to CFMX 6.1. All seems fine except
 for CFGRID. It is displaying fine but when i update the grid im
 getting the following error message:
 
 Error casting an object of type to an incompatible type. This usually
 indicates a programming error in Java, although it could also mean you
 have tried to use a foreign object in a different way than it was
 designed
 
 This only happens when i change a value. If i don't change anything
 and hit submit all seems fine.
 
 Is it possible to write a SQL update for cfgrid or does it have to
 go through cfgridupdate?
 
 Cheers
 
 Andy J
 www.andyjarrett.co.uk
 
 

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Server side printing

2005-02-04 Thread Richard Meredith-Hardy
Can anyone suggest how an Intranet user can send a PDF or text file to
be printed on a specific printer from the server side?  I'm thinking
specifically about printing labels on a Dymo Labelwriter 330 USB which
is on a box on the network.

This is with CF5 / Win2K3 

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Re: Cfgrid on CFMX 6.1

2005-02-04 Thread Andy Jarrett
Thanks for that,

I've found some relating to the certificate on cfform but nothing
directly to do with CFMX 6.1 and my error.

I was looking at 

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_17883

Andy




On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:27:03 +0530, sathya v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 there is some Hot fix for CFgrid iuuse in CFmx try install hotfix
 
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:58:25 +, Andy Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just moved an app from CF4.5 to CFMX 6.1. All seems fine except
  for CFGRID. It is displaying fine but when i update the grid im
  getting the following error message:
 
  Error casting an object of type to an incompatible type. This usually
  indicates a programming error in Java, although it could also mean you
  have tried to use a foreign object in a different way than it was
  designed
 
  This only happens when i change a value. If i don't change anything
  and hit submit all seems fine.
 
  Is it possible to write a SQL update for cfgrid or does it have to
  go through cfgridupdate?
 
  Cheers
 
  Andy J
  www.andyjarrett.co.uk
 
 
 
 

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RE: CF5 to CFMX - CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS and MS Excel data sources

2005-02-04 Thread Earl, George
Earl, George wrote:
  Has anyone else figured out how to get from CFMX the same 
 functionality with
  MS Excel that CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS provides in CF5?
 
And Jochem replied:
 Yes, but the process involves undocumented features and even the 
 temporary shutdown of the datasource service. You should really 
 consider all other options before you try it in production:
 http://www1.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/index.cfm?PageID=12

Ouch. That's pretty drastic - I think we need to find another solution.

Thanks for your input, you have saved me many more hours of surfing/research
. . .

Pardon my ignorance, but can we speculate why MM removed the
CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS function (and other related functions) from
CFMX? Does it have to do with Java? Or does it have to do with security?

cfinsert_cf_community

Jochem - I keep wanting to ask how is it that you seem to be so in touch
with U.S. television shows when you are over there in .nl?  :-)

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RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Sandy Clark
Actually xHTML works fine in IE provided it is xHTML 1.0 served as text
through a mime type of text/html. It's the xhtml served as :
application/xhtml+xml, application/xml or text/xml that causes problems in
IE.(That's why I can't go to xHTML 1.1 since it has to be served with one of
those mime types.)

http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/

Just remember to dump the prolog when serving xHTML (?xml version=1.0
encoding=utf-8?).  It throws IE into quirks mode. (Quirks mode = non
cross browser rendering compatibility and is not to be desired).

cf_northeasternshout
Hallelujah! They are listening!
/cf_northeasternshout

Sandy

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XHTML is still unsupported by IE, so if you need to develop for IE, use
quirks mode at least, or stick to 4.01 

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Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 3:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... 

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Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

 

 From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cleaning up the deprecated tags like font and the like will also 
 really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code 
 into css, your pages will load that much faster)!
 
 /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :)

I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have
never
been a fan of the HTML they output.









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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:39:07 -0800, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 { snip }

 It's worth mentioning that you can do all this with HTML as well as
 XHTML.  The difference is that with HTML you can choose to do it this
 way, but with XHTML you _have_ to do it this way.

Which, IMO, is a good thing.  There's been so much crap HTML code
floating around the web for so long due to lack of standards (or lack
of consequences for deviation from what loose standards existed).

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PreserveSingleQuotes In search page

2005-02-04 Thread jjakim
I have a page for users to search what is in the database.
There are a half dozen different things they can search on.
Title/Author/Genre/Etc
My action page pulls all the chosen criteria together and sends it to a stored 
procedure.
It is not working when a user types in a ' into a title. 
I've added the PreserveSingleQuotes to the title piece:
CFSET TitleSearch=Where (Title Like 
'#PreserveSingleQuotes(Attributes.Title)#%' 
I added it to the code that pulls all the criteria together:
  CFSET SearchThis=#PreserveSingleQuotes(Title)# #Genre# #Grade# #Voice# 
#Type#)
And lastly I added it to the stored procedure.  However,  the ' still whacks it 
all out. 
   CFPROCPARAM TYPE=IN CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR VALUE=#SearchThis# 
DBVARNAME=@SearchThis
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Bert Dawson
index.cfm: about 17,600,000 
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon
about 4% of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
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RE: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Well, if it was valid XML then you could, in theory, actually parse a cf
document as an xml document

Not sure what value that would have though.

- Calvin

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Subject: Re: cfset ?

if its parsed on the server, and it doesnt make it to the browser,
anyway, why or how does xhtml compliance matter?

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RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Dreamweaver also does XHMTL...

- Calvin

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Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... 

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Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

 

 From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cleaning up the deprecated tags like font and the like will also 
 really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code 
 into css, your pages will load that much faster)!
 
 /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :)

I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have never
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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Forta
And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

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From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

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 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Calvin Ward
How about .aspx?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
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 coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 





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Re: PreserveSingleQuotes In search page

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
I don't know exactly what you're trying to do, but I am pretty sure that 
the PreserveSingleQuotes function has NO effect when it's not inside a 
cfquery tag.

So there is ZERO difference between this:

CFSET TitleSearch=Where (Title Like 
'#PreserveSingleQuotes(Attributes.Title)#%'

and this:

CFSET TitleSearch=Where (Title Like '#Attributes.Title#%'

It's only purpose is to prevent single quotes from being doubled up 
inside cfquery.  Since you're not inside cfquery when you are running 
the preserveSingleQuotes() function, it doesn't do anything.

  - Rick

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a page for users to search what is in the database.
 There are a half dozen different things they can search on.
 Title/Author/Genre/Etc
 My action page pulls all the chosen criteria together and sends it to a 
 stored procedure.
 It is not working when a user types in a ' into a title. 
 I've added the PreserveSingleQuotes to the title piece:
 CFSET TitleSearch=Where (Title Like 
 '#PreserveSingleQuotes(Attributes.Title)#%'   
 I added it to the code that pulls all the criteria together:
   CFSET SearchThis=#PreserveSingleQuotes(Title)# #Genre# #Grade# #Voice# 
 #Type#)
 And lastly I added it to the stored procedure.  However,  the ' still whacks 
 it all out. 
CFPROCPARAM TYPE=IN CFSQLTYPE=CF_SQL_VARCHAR VALUE=#SearchThis# 
 DBVARNAME=@SearchThis
 Any ideas?
 Thanks,
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RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Micha Schopman
XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml,
application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a
mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the
format looks XHTML valid.

More about this on the blog of Anne, who explains everything in detail
and written out.

www.annevankesteren.nl

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-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 14:06
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

Actually xHTML works fine in IE provided it is xHTML 1.0 served as text
through a mime type of text/html. It's the xhtml served as :
application/xhtml+xml, application/xml or text/xml that causes problems
in
IE.(That's why I can't go to xHTML 1.1 since it has to be served with
one of
those mime types.)

http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/

Just remember to dump the prolog when serving xHTML (?xml version=1.0
encoding=utf-8?).  It throws IE into quirks mode. (Quirks mode = non
cross browser rendering compatibility and is not to be desired).

cf_northeasternshout
Hallelujah! They are listening!
/cf_northeasternshout

Sandy

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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

XHTML is still unsupported by IE, so if you need to develop for IE, use
quirks mode at least, or stick to 4.01 

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Software Engineer

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Sent: vrijdag 4 februari 2005 3:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

TinyMCE outputs XHTML, so no problems there... 

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Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

 

 From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cleaning up the deprecated tags like font and the like will also 
 really clean up the code (and by putting all of the presentation code 
 into css, your pages will load that much faster)!
 
 /me hears ms. clark shout an amen from up north :)

I wonder what will happen to all those nifty WYSIWYG editors... I have
never
been a fan of the HTML they output.











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500 Internal Server Error

2005-02-04 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Every now and again I will get a 500 Internal Server Error. This happens
when I submit a CF template for processing (i.e. forms). I am developing
locally: CFMX 6.1, WinXP Pro / IIS, IE 6. Has anyone encountered this and if
so, did you find out what was causing it? My first thought is that it is not
CF related, but I have only experienced it when attempting to process CF
pages. Any insight is much appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
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RE: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
 From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Every now and again I will get a 500 Internal Server Error. 
 This happens when I submit a CF template for processing (i.e. 
 forms). I am developing
 locally: CFMX 6.1, WinXP Pro / IIS, IE 6. Has anyone 
 encountered this and if so, did you find out what was causing 
 it? My first thought is that it is not CF related, but I have 
 only experienced it when attempting to process CF pages. Any 
 insight is much appreciated.

Seems to happen when certain errors are encountered on the page (stepped
through the page). The sitewide error handler is not catching them... Not
good.




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Re: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
 
 Seems to happen when certain errors are encountered on the page (stepped
 through the page). The sitewide error handler is not catching them... Not
 good.

I've experienced this as well on CFMX 6.1 Updater 1... makes code 
debugging extremely difficult.  very annoying.

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RE: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread Micha Schopman
I have the same issues, and they occur only when I really have put a bug
somewhere. But it is a pain in the ass to debug, because you haven't got
an idea where to look especially with OO frameworks with a lot of
references.

Micha Schopman
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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Craig Dudley
And the fact the asp uses Default.asp a lot of the time.

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 February 2005 13:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

How about .aspx?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben
 

-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon
about 4% of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are 
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up 
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html
 
 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
 --
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RE: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
 From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I have the same issues, and they occur only when I really 
 have put a bug somewhere. But it is a pain in the ass to 
 debug, because you haven't got an idea where to look 
 especially with OO frameworks with a lot of references.

Yeah, PITA is right. I noticed it happens most when the error/exception is
database related... This time it was a typo calling a stored procedure. 




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RE: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
When a page generates very little content, IE decides to show the 500 error
instead of the actual CF error code.

Try the same page in FireFox to see if this is the problem. If so, add a
block of dummy HTML output to make IE render the error page while you are
developing. 

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Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:39 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

 From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Every now and 
 again I will get a 500 Internal Server Error.
 This happens when I submit a CF template for processing (i.e. 
 forms). I am developing
 locally: CFMX 6.1, WinXP Pro / IIS, IE 6. Has anyone encountered this 
 and if so, did you find out what was causing it? My first thought is 
 that it is not CF related, but I have only experienced it when 
 attempting to process CF pages. Any insight is much appreciated.

Seems to happen when certain errors are encountered on the page (stepped
through the page). The sitewide error handler is not catching them... Not
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Re: 500 Internal Server Error (Update)

2005-02-04 Thread Bert Dawson
Have you tried going to CF admin and unchecking the Enable HTTP
status codes on the settings page?

Bert 


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:47:54 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have the same issues, and they occur only when I really
  have put a bug somewhere. But it is a pain in the ass to
  debug, because you haven't got an idea where to look
  especially with OO frameworks with a lot of references.
 
 Yeah, PITA is right. I noticed it happens most when the error/exception is
 database related... This time it was a typo calling a stored procedure.
 
 
 

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RE: 500 Internal Server Error

2005-02-04 Thread Pat Wenke
Do you have Enable HTTP status codes turned off in CF Admin?  We had
the same problem until I saw a post from Ben Forta regarding the
setting.  Ever since I turned it off, we haven't had a problem.



-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: 500 Internal Server Error

Every now and again I will get a 500 Internal Server Error. This
happens
when I submit a CF template for processing (i.e. forms). I am developing
locally: CFMX 6.1, WinXP Pro / IIS, IE 6. Has anyone encountered this
and if
so, did you find out what was causing it? My first thought is that it is
not
CF related, but I have only experienced it when attempting to process CF
pages. Any insight is much appreciated.
 
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Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
Okay... James suggested yesterday that I create my oracle functions 
inside a CFC, and make sure to put the SQL to create the function all on 
one line.

But it's not helping..

Here is my code:

test.cfm
cfset DBTYPE = oracle
cfset DSN = ADSPRD_blogcfm
cfif dbtype contains oracle
cfset functions = CreateObject(component,functions)
cfset results = functions.createOracleFunctions(DSN)
Oracle functions created.
p
/cfif
cfquery name=qry datasource=#DSN#
SELECT Year(SYSDATE) FROM DUAL
/cfquery
cfdump var=#qry#
cfquery name=qry datasource=#DSN#
SELECT Month(SYSDATE) FROM DUAL
/cfquery
cfdump var=#qry#
test.cfm

---functions.cfc-
cfcomponent
cffunction name=createOracleFunctions access=public output=yes 
returnType=void
cfargument name=dsn type=string required=yes
cfset var qry = 
cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGDROP function 
month/cfquery
cfcatch type=any!-- ignore --/cfcatch
/cftry
cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGDROP function 
year/cfquery
cfcatch type=any!-- ignore --/cfcatch
/cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGCREATE FUNCTION month 
(MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS BEGIN RETURN extract(MONTH FROM MyDate); 
END month/cfquery
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGCREATE FUNCTION year 
(MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN RETURN extract(YEAR FROM MyDate); 
END year/cfquery
Cfreturn
/cffunction
/cfcomponent
---functions.cfc-

All four queries execute fine... no errors...  then when I try to access 
the Year() function, I still get the error:

[Macromedia][Oracle JDBC Driver][Oracle]ORA-06575: Package or function 
YEAR is in an invalid state

ARGH!

  - Rick

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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Uhhh, the table tags are part of your content. They are the

structure.  The presentation are things like headings

Well, I was more thinking of the content (text) as opposed to the presentation 
in a larger sense,
including the container as well. For me, the fact that some text must be laid 
inside a cell inside a table
is part of the presentation scheme for the same reason as bold, italic or 
strong.

The perfect example is the b tag in HTML.  What does it mean?  It
means bold the contained text.  That's a presentation concern, not
part of the content.  

Exact, this is why I always write B, not b, in order to better separate it 
from the content
generally in lower case. And this is why I do not like XHTML.


In XHTML you have the strong tag.  What does
it mean?  The contained text should be 'stronger' than other text. 
That's a semantic concern, not presentation.  The you use CSS to
supply the presentation info appropriate for the medium, based on the
semantic meaning.

I know, this is the philosopy behind SGML and DTDs.

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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
You stil have AS in the Year Fn

RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN

Should be IS 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 10:55 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

Okay... James suggested yesterday that I create my oracle functions inside a
CFC, and make sure to put the SQL to create the function all on one line.

But it's not helping..

Here is my code:

test.cfm
cfset DBTYPE = oracle
cfset DSN = ADSPRD_blogcfm
cfif dbtype contains oracle
cfset functions = CreateObject(component,functions)
cfset results = functions.createOracleFunctions(DSN)
Oracle functions created.
p
/cfif
cfquery name=qry datasource=#DSN#
SELECT Year(SYSDATE) FROM DUAL
/cfquery
cfdump var=#qry#
cfquery name=qry datasource=#DSN#
SELECT Month(SYSDATE) FROM DUAL
/cfquery
cfdump var=#qry#
test.cfm

---functions.cfc-
cfcomponent
cffunction name=createOracleFunctions access=public output=yes 
returnType=void
cfargument name=dsn type=string required=yes
cfset var qry = 
cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGDROP function
month/cfquery
cfcatch type=any!-- ignore --/cfcatch
/cftry
cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGDROP function
year/cfquery
cfcatch type=any!-- ignore --/cfcatch
/cftry
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGCREATE FUNCTION month
(MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS BEGIN RETURN extract(MONTH FROM MyDate); END
month/cfquery
cfquery name=qry datasource=#dsn# DEBUGCREATE FUNCTION year
(MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN RETURN extract(YEAR FROM MyDate); END
year/cfquery
Cfreturn
/cffunction
/cfcomponent
---functions.cfc-

All four queries execute fine... no errors...  then when I try to access the
Year() function, I still get the error:

[Macromedia][Oracle JDBC Driver][Oracle]ORA-06575: Package or function YEAR
is in an invalid state

ARGH!

  - Rick



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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark A Kruger
Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
index.cfm is far more standard.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use


And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html

 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?

 --
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 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
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Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
James Holmes wrote:
 You stil have AS in the Year Fn
 
 RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN
 
 Should be IS 

Changed, still getting the same error.

As a side note, why wouldn't invalid syntax cause the create function 
statement to error?

  - Rick

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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
Hmm, does the Month function work? As for the error (or lack of it), it
might be some weird driver issue. I'll try your exact code in a sec and post
back.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 11:08 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

James Holmes wrote:
 You stil have AS in the Year Fn
 
 RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN
 
 Should be IS

Changed, still getting the same error.

As a side note, why wouldn't invalid syntax cause the create function
statement to error?

  - Rick



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OT: Visual Source Safe DEV/PROD Setup

2005-02-04 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
I want to do the following for our cf stuff and not sure about the last
step:

 

Setup a project in VSS.

Check files out to a test server, make changes there.

Check files in.

(Here is the part I don't know about) Make them automatically copy to
the live server

 

How do other people setup a dev/prod environment with VSS?

 

Thanks.

 

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Russ
How about a google search just for the file extension?

Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds) 
Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds)

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
index.cfm is far more standard.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use


And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Looks like an open and shut case.
:)

Cheers
Bert

ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
of those 17 million are mine!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
 any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
 to date?
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
 java_servlets.html

 I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
 Anybody got something like that knocking round?

 --
 Mark Drew

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 http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
 fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
 http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/









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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
I know this is a hard metric, and it leads from a Macromedia CF brand
re-inforcement excercise I need to play with a client.

Not that they are going to go .net is just that .Net gets more press
as its the new kid on the block.


Any ideas on metrics/re-inforcement apreciated.


MD


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 08:57:16 -0600, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.
 
 -Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 --- Ben
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
 of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
  to date?
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
 
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
  --
  Mark Drew
 
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
That means that there are bigger sites for CFM?

how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it?




On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:18:59 -0500, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about a google search just for the file extension?
 
 Results 1 - 10 of about 82,700,000 for inurl:.aspx. (0.08 seconds)
 Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000,000 for inurl:.cfm. (0.28 seconds)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:01 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.
 
 -Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 --- Ben
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i reckon about 4%
 of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if there are
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that is more up
  to date?
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
 
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
 
  --
  Mark Drew
 
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
 
 
 
 

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RE: new boston CFUG - sort of

2005-02-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Hey Duane, Jim, Robyn:

I am 99% sure that the meeting will be virtual.  You can get the breeze 
online meeting URL by going to this page:

http://coldfusion.meetup.com/17/events/?eventId=4177446action=detail

Now, to figure out some questions to ask..

Nice bubbles, Jim.  At first it looked like you were eating ice cream or 
something.  :)

Ray

At 12:23 AM 2/4/2005, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:08 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: new boston CFUG - sort of
 
  Check it out, sign yourself up!

Done and done.

I'm a little confused tho' - the first meeting is sending mixed messages.
Is it virtual, online or both?  It says virtual but then gives a physical
address.

I can't deal with it when the real and virtual worlds collide... what should
I do?!

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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
As a side note, why wouldn't invalid syntax cause the create function 
statement to error?

you can use both AS and IS, it doesn't seem to have any effect (at least
in SQL*Plus):

SQL*Plus: Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production on Fri Feb 4 16:25:07 2005

Copyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.


Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.4.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Oracle Data Mining options
JServer Release 9.2.0.4.0 - Production

SQL CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION c_to_f (in_c NUMBER)
  2 RETURN NUMBER
  3  IS
  4 out_f   NUMBER;
  5  BEGIN
  6 out_f := (in_c * 9 / 5) + 32;
  7 RETURN out_f;
  8  END c_to_f;
  9  /

Function created.

SQL SELECT SUBSTR (object_name, 1, 25), object_type, status
  2FROM user_objects
  3   WHERE object_name = 'C_TO_F';

SUBSTR(OBJECT_NAME,1,25)  OBJECT_TYPESTATUS
- -- ---
C_TO_FFUNCTION   VALID

SQL DROP  FUNCTION c_to_f;

Function dropped.

SQL CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION c_to_f (in_c NUMBER)
  2 RETURN NUMBER
  3  AS
  4 out_f   NUMBER;
  5  BEGIN
  6 out_f := (in_c * 9 / 5) + 32;
  7 RETURN out_f;
  8  END c_to_f;
  9  /

Function created.

SQL SELECT SUBSTR (object_name, 1, 25), object_type, status
  2FROM user_objects
  3   WHERE object_name = 'C_TO_F';

SUBSTR(OBJECT_NAME,1,25)  OBJECT_TYPESTATUS
- -- ---
C_TO_FFUNCTION   VALID

SQL


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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

James Holmes wrote:
 You stil have AS in the Year Fn
 
 RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN
 
 Should be IS 

Changed, still getting the same error.

As a side note, why wouldn't invalid syntax cause the create function 
statement to error?

  - Rick



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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use
index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP)
and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those?

Vince

 -Original Message-
 From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 index.cfm: about 17,600,000
 index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
 Looks like an open and shut case.
 :)
 
 Cheers
 Bert
 
 ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i 
 reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine!
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if 
 there are 
  any other sites that show the graph of technology use that 
 is more up 
  to date?
  
 http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
  java_servlets.html
  
  I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
  Anybody got something like that knocking round?
  
  --
  Mark Drew
  
  coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
  http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
  fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
  http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
  
  
 
 

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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
I've got it  - you are missing the final semicolon after END month and END
year. Running without them leads to this:

CREATE FUNCTION month (MyDate DATE) RETURN NUMBER IS BEGIN RETURN
extract(MONTH FROM MyDate);
END month
Warning: Function created with compilation errors
 
Notice that no ORA error was thrown - it was created. It just compiled
badly. Hence, CF doesn't error either (I did this with TOAD).

Add the semicolons and you'll be OK. It all still needs to be on one line.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 11:08 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

James Holmes wrote:
 You stil have AS in the Year Fn
 
 RETURN NUMBER AS BEGIN
 
 Should be IS

Changed, still getting the same error.

As a side note, why wouldn't invalid syntax cause the create function
statement to error?

  - Rick



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Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
James Holmes wrote:
 Hmm, does the Month function work? As for the error (or lack of it), it
 might be some weird driver issue. I'll try your exact code in a sec and post
 back.

Let me know... I'm running CFMX 6.1 Updater 1 on Windows, and using the 
default Oracle JDBC Driver, connecting to an Oracle 9i database.

  - Rick

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Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Janet Schmitt
YEAR is a reserved word in Oracle.  Try a different name for the function.

Janet.

At 09:55 AM 2/4/2005 -0500, you wrote:
All four queries execute fine... no errors...  then when I try to access
the Year() function, I still get the error:

[Macromedia][Oracle JDBC Driver][Oracle]ORA-06575: Package or function
YEAR is in an invalid state


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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
It may be, but the function still works anyway. 

-Original Message-
From: Janet Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 11:42 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

YEAR is a reserved word in Oracle.  Try a different name for the function.

Janet.

At 09:55 AM 2/4/2005 -0500, you wrote:
All four queries execute fine... no errors...  then when I try to 
access the Year() function, I still get the error:

[Macromedia][Oracle JDBC Driver][Oracle]ORA-06575: Package or function 
YEAR is in an invalid state




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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Fragnoli
Searching 'fuseaction' in google turns up 12,700,000.

A lot of pages from US Senate and House.   The gov't clearly endorses Fusebox 
and CF.  Hmmm, is this a good thing? ;)

Mark


That means that there are bigger sites for CFM?

how about fusebox? each site would be index.cfm and that is pretty much it?


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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Mark Drew
Just a dump  of dumb numbers

index.cfm - 19,200,000
default.cfm - 2,100,000

index.asp  - 18,500,000
default.asp - 17,900,000

index.aspx - 3,670,000 
default.aspx - 8,740,000

index.php - 29,100,000
default.php - 4,200,000

index.jsp - 10,900,000
default.jsp -  266,000

Ohh.. me scared.. aspx all over the place :)

MD


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where did you search to get those number? By default, IIS doesn't use
 index.asp as the default document, but uses default.asp (for legacy ASP)
 and default.aspx (for ASP.NET). What are the results for those?
 
 Vince
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bert Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:43 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  index.cfm: about 17,600,000
  index.asp: about 16,600,000
 
  Looks like an open and shut case.
  :)
 
  Cheers
  Bert
 
  ps and after a quick check (google on site:www.mysite.com) i
  reckon about 4% of those 17 million are mine!
 
  On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:48 +, Mark Drew
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I found this graph a while back, and I am looking to see if
  there are
   any other sites that show the graph of technology use that
  is more up
   to date?
  
  http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/03/23/aspnet_overtakes_jsp_and_
   java_servlets.html
  
   I am trying to get some figures on overall usage of CF on websites.
   Anybody got something like that knocking round?
  
   --
   Mark Drew
  
   coldfusion and cfeclipse blogged:
   http://cybersonic.blogspot.com/
   fusebox plugin for cfeclipse:
   http://cfopen.org/projects/fusebox3cfe/
  
  
 
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Bert Dawson
whoops - looked like i removed the first line - it should have read:...

searching google i found:
index.cfm: about 17,600,000
index.asp: about 16,600,000

Cheers
Bert

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:37:36 -0500, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where did you search to get those number? {snip}
 
  -Original Message-
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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  index.cfm: about 17,600,000
  index.asp: about 16,600,000
 

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Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
James, that did the trick!

Crazy, in ALL other SQL queries sent via CFQUERY, if you end them in ;, 
you get an Invalid Character error...

Here's a question, Mr. Oracle Man...

Why can't I do this?

SELECT *, 'foo' as foo FROM BLOG_CONFIG

It's easy enough to work around by specifying the field names, but it's 
still pretty stupid that not to work.  It doesn't work in SQL*Plus or 
cfquery.

SQL select *, 'foo' as foo from BLOG_CONFIG;
select *, 'foo' as foo from BLOG_CONFIG
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00923: FROM keyword not found where expected


SQL select 'foo' as foo, * from BLOG_CONFIG;
select 'foo' as foo, * from BLOG_CONFIG
  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00936: missing expression


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Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml,
 application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a
 mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the
 format looks XHTML valid.


I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I
feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents,
mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file
that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as
a container. How about that? What's the correct mime-type for such a kind
of beast?

I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature
of a compound XML document...



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Think like an object

2005-02-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
A lot of OO books/papers make reference to an article titled Think like an
object from the Sept. 1991 Unix Review. This article is not online anywhere
and I was wondering if someone here had a copy and could scan/photocopy it
for me. I'm writing up a lot of CF-OO stuff and would like to see it. 
Thanks

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RE: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread James Holmes
SELECT BLOG_CONFIG.*, 'foo' as foo FROM BLOG_CONFIG

And you thought that would be hard, didn't you...

-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 12:04 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

James, that did the trick!

Crazy, in ALL other SQL queries sent via CFQUERY, if you end them in ;, you
get an Invalid Character error...

Here's a question, Mr. Oracle Man...

Why can't I do this?

SELECT *, 'foo' as foo FROM BLOG_CONFIG

It's easy enough to work around by specifying the field names, but it's
still pretty stupid that not to work.  It doesn't work in SQL*Plus or
cfquery.

SQL select *, 'foo' as foo from BLOG_CONFIG;
select *, 'foo' as foo from BLOG_CONFIG
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00923: FROM keyword not found where expected


SQL select 'foo' as foo, * from BLOG_CONFIG;
select 'foo' as foo, * from BLOG_CONFIG
  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00936: missing expression

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Re: Creating Oracle Functions in CFQUERY revisited

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
James Holmes wrote:
 SELECT BLOG_CONFIG.*, 'foo' as foo FROM BLOG_CONFIG
 
 And you thought that would be hard, didn't you...

Hehheheh.. I'll keep that in mind!

You know, making BlogCFM work for 5 different databases has been an 
interesting exercise.

Once it's done, I'm hoping to talk the alumni center here into using it, 
then at least the work will have been work-related.

(Saeed, if you're out there, you be quiet!)

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RE: new boston CFUG - sort of

2005-02-04 Thread Steven Erat
 Where are you guys meeting? I'm in Nashua.
 
 Duane

Please refer to my reply to Jim Davis on this list, or see:
http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=aliasalias=BostonCFMeetup

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RE: new boston CFUG - sort of

2005-02-04 Thread Steven Erat
 I'm a little confused tho' - the first meeting is sending 
 mixed messages.
 Is it virtual, online or both?  It says virtual but then 
 gives a physical
 address.

Hi Jim,

I see you've added a photo.  I've bumped into many times before, but never
put the face with the name. Good to meet you.

The Meetup.com site has required fields when setting up an event, including
the address, city, state etc.  I had to choose something for that, so I
chose Newton, the Macromedia office.  However, in the notes section there is
a Breeze URL and a conference number.  You can attend from your place of
work or at home on that comfy couch.  

The audio of any presenter is broadcast to all audience members, and we can
make anyone a presenter if they have something to share on their desktop. So
if all you wish to do is listen, then bring up the Breezo and turn on the
computer speakers.  On the other hand, if you think you'd like to speak up
from time to time, then join the conf call and turn down your speakers.

Meetup also seems to want to automatically schedule new meetings on the
first Thursday of the month at 8pm by default, so already there is a new
event scheduled for March 3rd.  That sounds reasonable, but I've changed the
time to 6pm.  During next weeks online meeting we can address topics such as
desired days and times, as well as future topics and possible presenters.

Thanks!
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OT:SQL Replace Question

2005-02-04 Thread John Stanley
Anyone have any idea why this code will not strip out the spaces in the
string N0P  2L0?

select Replace(postal_code,' ', '') from location where id = 1009637

when I change the last argument to 'X' it throws two X's in like it should.

We are running ms sql 2k in 6.5 compatibility mode, so I dont know if that
is the reason why it wont trim the spaces out.

If this is why, does anyone have a workaround that would work inside a join
clause like 

oin zipinfo z on Replace(z.zip,' ','') = Replace(l.postal_code,' ','') when
running in compatibility mode?

TIA

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Neil Middleton
Surely this is abundantly obvious, ASP/.NET has a much larger
saturation than CF, you don't need to google to know that...just open
your eyes a little.


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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:57 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Recall that many asp sites use default.asp ... not index.asp, whereas
 CF's
 index.cfm is far more standard.

Although some of us use default.cfm (as at www.nefn.com) as well.  Add to
that the number of people that mask the extension entirely and the (large
number, as Ben said) behind firewalls (and not just for CF) and in the end I
don't think any of the numbers available via Google are very useful.

I'm not sure how you would get comparative numbers... with CF it's tempting
to go by sales (which assumes if somebody buys a product they'll use it) but
that cuts out the very large number of shared hosting applications (one
purchased license might support dozens of separate applications).

It's also impossible to judge ASP via sales.

So I'm not sure how to get real numbers...

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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Dan O'Keefe
No, I used this address. Will send it right now with the subject RE_Extract.

Dan


On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:07:29 -0500, Claude Schneegans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did your email address change? I sent a couple emails about
 RE_extract with no reply.
 
 No, it didn't.
 I changed my message reading soft however, (Thunderbird), and it has a spam 
 filter.
 I check it every time it sends something to the thrash however, and I never 
 saw something
 about RE_extract of course.
 
 I hope you did not use [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is only a spam trap ;-)
 
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OT: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
Loha.
 
Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 subscribers.  We get
a few hundred bounce messages each time and they currently go back to
the From address.  Rather than cluttering up that account I created an
'emailerrors' account and am trying to configure the email to go to it
instead.

Here is an example header list from an email.
 
Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from websrv ([xx.xxx.xx.xxx]) by mail.thelimucompany.com with
Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
  Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:51:40 -0500
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:48:26 -0500 (EST)
From: My Comapny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cool News
Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/related; 
 boundary==_Part_146976_15408636.1107535706406
X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server
X-Mailer: MyCompany Email Sender
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
precedence: list
importance: high
sensitivity: confidential
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 16:48:26.0406 (UTC)
FILETIME=[58CEDC60:01C50AD9]

At first I set it to use the SMTP server (IIS on Win2k) on our hosted
server (WEBSRV), and then I tried sending straight through our local
server (mail.thelimucompany.com) to see if it made any difference, but
the same thing happened.

Anyone have a suggestion on what headers I might be missing, or anything
else to check?

My IT guru co-worker thought that the invalid hostname on the mailserver
(WEBSRV) might be causing a problem.  I would think that it might cause
some of the bounces to occur (some ISPs block invalid hostnames) but it
shouldn't explain why the bounces go to the wrong location.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 
 subscribers.  We get a few hundred bounce messages each time 
 and they currently go back to the From address.  Rather than 
 cluttering up that account I created an 'emailerrors' account 
 and am trying to configure the email to go to it instead.
 
 Here is an example header list from an email.
  
 Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
 Received: from websrv ([xx.xxx.xx.xxx]) by 
 mail.thelimucompany.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713);
   Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:51:40 -0500
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 11:48:26 -0500 (EST)
 From: My Comapny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Damien McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cool News
 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/related;
  boundary==_Part_146976_15408636.1107535706406
 X-Mailer: ColdFusion MX Application Server
 X-Mailer: MyCompany Email Sender
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 precedence: list
 importance: high
 sensitivity: confidential
 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 16:48:26.0406 (UTC) 
 FILETIME=[58CEDC60:01C50AD9]

I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify where replies
should go.

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Re: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Howie Hamlin
Some email servers return to the FROM header address and ignore the other 
headers.  Try this:

cfmail from=My Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... 

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--- On Friday, February 04, 2005 12:30 PM, Damien McKenna scribed: ---

 Loha.
 
 Every week I send out a company newsletter to 2500 subscribers.  We
 get a few hundred bounce messages each time and they currently go
 back to the From address.  Rather than cluttering up that account I
 created an 'emailerrors' account and am trying to configure the email
 to go to it instead.
 

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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
I want regular replies to go to the From: address and error messages to
go to the Error-To: address.  I didn't think it'd be needed.

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 I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify 
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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
 Will send it right now with the subject RE_Extract.

Ah ah! Got it! And it is not marked as spam. ;-)

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, 
 behind firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology?

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RE: Server side printing

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 Can anyone suggest how an Intranet user can send a PDF or 
 text file to be printed on a specific printer from the server 
 side?  I'm thinking specifically about printing labels on a 
 Dymo Labelwriter 330 USB which is on a box on the network.
 
 This is with CF5 / Win2K3 

I haven't tried this with PDFs, but you can just use CFFILE to write to the
appropriate UNC path for the printer with text files.

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Re: OT: Visual Source Safe DEV/PROD Setup

2005-02-04 Thread Robert Munn
I strongly recommend against automatic deployment to your production 
environment on check-in. You should really have three environments: dev, test, 
and prod. Build code in dev and check that it all works. Then you can check in 
your code in dev. Deploy from dev to test and check that it works. Then deploy 
to prod. 

How you deploy your code is up to you. We have CF Enterprise at my company and 
I use the Archive and Deploy features in the CF Admin for production 
deployments. The technology/method of deployment is secondary. The key is good 
process.

Kevin wrote:

Setup a project in VSS.

Check files out to a test server, make changes there.

Check files in.

(Here is the part I don't know about) Make them automatically copy to
the live server

 

How do other people setup a dev/prod environment with VSS?

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RE: CF5 to CFMX - CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS and MS Excel data sources

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 Pardon my ignorance, but can we speculate why MM removed the 
 CFUSION_DISABLE_DBCONNECTIONS function (and other related 
 functions) from CFMX? Does it have to do with Java? Or does 
 it have to do with security?

Presumably because the entire product was rewritten, and uses JDBC database
drivers instead of ODBC?

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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Russ
Use the failto attribute of the cfmail tag.  

Russ

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

I want regular replies to go to the From: address and error messages to
go to the Error-To: address.  I didn't think it'd be needed.

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 I don't see a Reply-To header. That should be used to specify 
 where replies should go.




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Another little tip

2005-02-04 Thread Marlon Moyer
I just moved an application that was coded a couple of years ago from
a CF5 server to a CFMX 6.1 server.  I just figured out why my cfserver
was pegging 100% CPU when it would hit a certain page.  There was a
CFFile statement where the output attribute didn't have ending quotes.
 It didn't throw an error, and surprisingly, it would work if the
variable that it was outputting wasn't too large.  If the variable was
large, it would hang on the template and send the CPU sky high.  More
surprisingly, CF5 never complained about it.


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Blog app

2005-02-04 Thread Daniel Kessler
At 12:01 PM -0500 2/3/05, CF-Talk wrote:
Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog.

Isn't that kinda overkill?

Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
pictures of my cat!

yeah it is probably overkill, but it's what the University supports 
and I use it whether I need to scale later or not.

It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.

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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Vernon
My mails are generally set up as follows...

cfmail from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] replyto=[EMAIL PROTECTED] failto=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ...


This works for the most part except with MTA's like MS Exchange that will
accept mails for any address and then bounce them after receiving the full
mail... This means that the failto address is lost because it is only used
in the SMTP conversation and is not included in the headers of the mail...

Even with the replyto set to bounce@ as well, we still receive some bounce
messages back to the newsletters mailbox because of the poor implementations
of some mail servers...

I guess what I'm saying is that you can't completely fix this with code
because it's not your code that is necessarily broken

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RE: SQL Replace Question

2005-02-04 Thread John Stanley
Well, I tested this and it works fine on a 2k db NOT running in
compatability mode, so that is the issue. Now to find a workaround.

-Original Message-
From: John Stanley 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT:SQL Replace Question


Anyone have any idea why this code will not strip out the spaces in the
string N0P  2L0?

select Replace(postal_code,' ', '') from location where id = 1009637

when I change the last argument to 'X' it throws two X's in like it should.

We are running ms sql 2k in 6.5 compatibility mode, so I dont know if that
is the reason why it wont trim the spaces out.

If this is why, does anyone have a workaround that would work inside a join
clause like 

oin zipinfo z on Replace(z.zip,' ','') = Replace(l.postal_code,' ','') when
running in compatibility mode?

TIA

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Re: Blog app

2005-02-04 Thread Rick Root
Daniel Kessler wrote:
 
 It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.

BlogCFM 0.93b includes full support for Oracle and SQL Server.

I also fixed quite a lot of major and minor bugs, and finished some 
features that weren't done (like requiring account confirmation before 
posting comments)

You can download it from www.blogcfm.org =)

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Forta
Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that one.
But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less in internal
corporate development (PHP is a perfect example of this) meaning that
proportionally there is more of them public facing and that skews any
extrapolation of total use based on public facing use.

--- Ben


 

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 And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind 
 firewalls, stuff Google will never see.

Isn't that equally true for every other web application server technology?

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Migrate Lotus Notes Apps to Coldfusion

2005-02-04 Thread Adam Haskell
our group maybe getting the fun challange of migrating about 50-80
Lotus/Domino apps to Coldfusion. I was curious if anyone has done this
and/or if anyone had any pointers or suggestions on wherre to start.
Right now we have an ODBC connection and are able to read some data
but we're concerned about datamigration and also getting a non-odbc
driver to work on MX.


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Re: Migrate Lotus Notes Apps to Coldfusion

2005-02-04 Thread Matt Woodward
our group maybe getting the fun challange of migrating about 50-80
Lotus/Domino apps to Coldfusion. I was curious if anyone has done this
and/or if anyone had any pointers or suggestions on wherre to start.
Right now we have an ODBC connection and are able to read some data
but we're concerned about datamigration and also getting a non-odbc
driver to work on MX.


Adam H

We're at the same point you are with this very thing at my company Adam--we're 
using the Notes SQL driver (which isn't especially pretty since Notes isn't 
relational), and we're getting some data back but it's a bit weird.  Lots of 
issues to work through.

This is going to be more or less my life over the next few months so as I work 
through this I'll definitely share my pain.  If you come up with any good 
tidbits of knowledge please share them!

Thanks,
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RE: Trying to make emails bounce correctly, headers problem

2005-02-04 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
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 My mails are generally set up as follows...
 cfmail from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] replyto=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 failto=[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...

Perfect!  That was it!  Thanks Paul.

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A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Yves Arsenault
Hello,

I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how many
items can be in a list in a CF variable.

Anyone?

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Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
I believe that it's still the XHTML MIME type, because that's what the
document acutally, is regardless of what other stuff it might have
embedded in it.  But you're right, the MIME type is utterly
insufficient for describing a compound XML document.

cheers,
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  XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml,
  application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a
  mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the
  format looks XHTML valid.
 
 I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I
 feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents,
 mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file
 that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as
 a container. How about that? What's the correct mime-type for such a kind
 of beast?
 
 I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature
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RE: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how 
 many items can be in a list in a CF variable.

There's no specific list data type in CF; lists are just strings. So, my
guess is that a list can only contain as many characters (including
delimiters) as any other string. Of course, that doesn't really help you
with how many items can be in a list if you don't know the length of all
items beforehand.

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RE: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
None other than the fact that a list is a delimited text string that has to
be parsed to get out the value. Too long and it takes a lot of processing to
deal with it.
Personally, I don't use lists longer than 100 items unless there's a really
good reason for it.

 Hello,
 
 I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how many
 items can be in a list in a CF variable.
 
 Anyone?
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
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 Subject: A brief question about lists
 
 Hello,
 
 I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how many
 items can be in a list in a CF variable.

I don't believe there is a limit (beyond hardware system limits) for size.

I once ran a code challenge to tally the number of words in an arbitrary
piece of text (for example the appears 35 times, We appears 3 times,
etc)

This was in CF 4.5/5.0 at the time (but I don't think it mattered) but one
of the entries treated the text as a space-delimited list and looped over
it.  It worked just fine (and was actually one of the fastest entries) with
text strings as large as the full novel Call of the Wild.

I've also successfully done log file parsing in CF treating log files (even
large ones) as carriage-return-delimited lists.

In other words list can be very, very large.  ;^)

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OT: Sql question

2005-02-04 Thread John Munyan
I have a question about how a relationship would be best modeled in SQL.  
Currently I have a hiking website, which hosts trail reviews.  People can add 
their own comments which are associated with the hike.
 
For instance maybe I hiked snow lake on 12/1/05 and also 6/1/05.  However, the 
user review gets associated with the instance of the hike either on 12/1/05. or 
6/1/05.  I want to combine these reviews so that they are associated with both. 
 I think a group ID could be assigned so this could be accomplished.
 
However...
 
The real problem however is how to model something like this where one hike is 
a subset or superset of another.  Take for instance this example.
 
TrailHead---3miles--Snowlake2milesGemlake---1mile---WrightMountain.
 
I would like  the Snow lake reviews to be shown when either GemLake is viewed 
or Wright Mountain.  However, I wouldn't want reviews for Gem Lake when the 
user is only intending to go to Snowlake.  Thus the problem is how one would 
handle this superset/subset association of reviews.
 
If anyone has any thoughts about how this would be handled I would be grateful 
for the advice.
 
Thanks,

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Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

2005-02-04 Thread Umer Farooq
you need to create a DTD to encompass all these..
W3C has a good example.. [XHTMLMOD]

http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG-20020809/#ref-xhtmlmodschema

frankly I think.. until the XHTML MOD Schema is finalized(working draft 
now) stuff like this gonna be.. a pain.. unless you are a fan of DTD's


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XHTML in general has to be served as application/xhtml+xml,
application/xml or text/xml to be valid. So serving the files with a
mimetype other than the required results in invalid XHTML, although the
format looks XHTML valid.
 
 
 
 I tend to agree (see my CF tools page with a Gekko based browser), but I
 feel there is more than that. With XHTML you can create compound documents,
 mixing different XML languages inside the same document, like a XHTML file
 that contains SVG, MathML or RSS. In such a scenario XHTML may simply act as
 a container. How about that? What's the correct mime-type for such a kind
 of beast?
 
 I have the feeling a simple mime-type isn't able to express the real nature
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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
This all translates to tens of thousands of extra keystrokes for me. And being 
the lazy coder that I am, I'll deem them unecessary! 

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Re: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Yves Arsenault
Thank you all who answered!

This list would probably be up to 350 items.. so I was thinking that
might be a bit much.

I suspect if I dig around with the SQL a bit more, I can get the
results I desire...

Yves


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  Subject: A brief question about lists
 
  Hello,
 
  I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how many
  items can be in a list in a CF variable.
 
 I don't believe there is a limit (beyond hardware system limits) for size.
 
 I once ran a code challenge to tally the number of words in an arbitrary
 piece of text (for example the appears 35 times, We appears 3 times,
 etc)
 
 This was in CF 4.5/5.0 at the time (but I don't think it mattered) but one
 of the entries treated the text as a space-delimited list and looped over
 it.  It worked just fine (and was actually one of the fastest entries) with
 text strings as large as the full novel Call of the Wild.
 
 I've also successfully done log file parsing in CF treating log files (even
 large ones) as carriage-return-delimited lists.
 
 In other words list can be very, very large.  ;^)
 
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OT: CFQuery SQL Scope of return?

2005-02-04 Thread Nick Baker
MS SQL
CFMX  6.1

How do you limit the score of info returned?
or
The equivalent of MySQL
LIMIT #StartRow#, #NumberRows#

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Errors not catched

2005-02-04 Thread Micha Schopman
I am creating a XML tree. The childs[i].lastversionid element is not available, 
and I am aware of. But, instead of executing the cfcatch part (which creates 
XML data with the error data in it to show in a treeview) CFMX just throws the 
error. Anybody happen to have same issues before with cftry/cfcatch ?
 
The relevant code is posted below :) Maybe I have triggered a known issue? The 
code resides in a cfm file, not in a cfc.
 
 
 cfset dataset = 
createObject(component,server.io.getCFCPath(shared,getchildren))
 cfset dataset.init(parentid=url.parentid)
 cfset childs = dataset.getAsObjects()
 
 cftry
 cfloop from=1 to=#ArrayLen(childs)# index=i
  cfif childs[i][objectName] EQ LibraryCategory AND childs[i][forObject] 
EQ Request.Object.object_Article.type
  cfoutput
  tree 
   label=#childs[i][objectlabel]# 
   
src=object.cfm?object=articleamp;template=treenodesamp;parentid=#childs[i][instanceid]#
 
   icon=styles/blue/gfx/workset.gif
   iconopen=styles/blue/gfx/workset.gif
   instanceid=#childs[i][instanceid]#
   lastversionid=#childs[i][lastversionid]#
   parentid=#childs[i][parentid]#
   joininstanceid=#childs[i][joininstanceid]#
   objecttype=#childs[i][objecttype]#
   objectname=#childs[i][objectname]#
   basedir=#evaluate('request.application.object.object_'  
childs[i]['objectname']  '.location')#
   /
  /cfoutput
  /cfif 
 /cfloop
 cfcatch
  cfoutput
  tree 
   label=error:#xmlFormat(cfcatch.message)#
   cfloop collection=#cfcatch# item=cfcatchAttribute
   cfif isSimpleValue(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute])
#cfcatchAttribute#=#xmlFormat(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute])#
   cfelseif isArray(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute])
cfloop from=1 to=#ArrayLen(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute])# index=i
 cfif isStruct(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute][i])
  cfloop collection=#cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute][i]# 
item=cfcatchSubAttribute
   
#cfcatchAttribute#_#i#_#cfcatchSubAttribute#=#xmlFormat(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute][i][cfcatchSubAttribute])#
  /cfloop
 cfelseif isSimpleValue(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute][i])
  #cfcatchAttribute#_#i#=#xmlFormat(cfcatch[cfcatchAttribute][i])#
 /cfif
/cfloop
   /cfif
   /cfloop
   icon=styles/blue/gfx/error.gif
   iconopen=styles/blue/gfx/error.gif 
   iserror=true 
   onloadevent=new function(){alert('expand this node automatically, = 
node.expand()')}/
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Re: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Yves Arsenault
Hi Jim,

And the results processed fairly quickly? Even with the log files?

Thanks,

Yves


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  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: A brief question about lists
 
  Hello,
 
  I was wondering if there are any guidelines, or limits in how many
  items can be in a list in a CF variable.
 
 I don't believe there is a limit (beyond hardware system limits) for size.
 
 I once ran a code challenge to tally the number of words in an arbitrary
 piece of text (for example the appears 35 times, We appears 3 times,
 etc)
 
 This was in CF 4.5/5.0 at the time (but I don't think it mattered) but one
 of the entries treated the text as a space-delimited list and looped over
 it.  It worked just fine (and was actually one of the fastest entries) with
 text strings as large as the full novel Call of the Wild.
 
 I've also successfully done log file parsing in CF treating log files (even
 large ones) as carriage-return-delimited lists.
 
 In other words list can be very, very large.  ;^)
 
 Jim Davis
 
 
 

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
I'm gonna be a good boy and stay out of this one! 

:)

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Rey Bango
Good idea ;)

Rey...

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Re: OT: Sql question

2005-02-04 Thread Umer Farooq
John Munyan wrote:
 I have a question about how a relationship would be best modeled in SQL.  
 Currently I have a hiking website, which hosts trail reviews.  People can add 
 their own comments which are associated with the hike.
  
 For instance maybe I hiked snow lake on 12/1/05 and also 6/1/05.  However, 
 the user review gets associated with the instance of the hike either on 
 12/1/05. or 6/1/05.  I want to combine these reviews so that they are 
 associated with both.  I think a group ID could be assigned so this could be 
 accomplished.

Hmm.. wouldn't just querying to figure out if there is another review 
from the same user.. for a same trail.. take care of that.. am I missing 
something here..

 However...
  
 The real problem however is how to model something like this where one hike 
 is a subset or superset of another.  Take for instance this example.
  
 TrailHead---3miles--Snowlake2milesGemlake---1mile---WrightMountain.
  
 I would like  the Snow lake reviews to be shown when either GemLake is viewed 
 or Wright Mountain.  However, I wouldn't want reviews for Gem Lake when the 
 user is only intending to go to Snowlake.  Thus the problem is how one would 
 handle this superset/subset association of reviews.
  
 If anyone has any thoughts about how this would be handled I would be 
 grateful for the advice.

Simplest thing that comes to my mind is to create a another table.. 
which holds... review relationship between the trails..

snowLake   :
gemlake: snowLake,trailHead
wrightMountain : snowLake
trailHead  : gemLake

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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread dave
actually .net will (haha) its really easy to do in dreamweaver!
 set the default document type to be xhtml compliant in the preferences and 
then when done with page under commands select fix xhtml.
 u have to do a few things like adding alt text to images but u should be doing 
that anyway.

 a few simple steps really helps cross browser support, if now we could only 
get m$ to do the right thing and build ie right, it would be awesome!
 kinda screwwy how msn is now building cssp sites but yet refuse to have their 
own browser support it properly. hopefully they will get sick of having to hack 
their code to get it to work in their own browser but not holding my breath.

 overall, u really should be coding in xhtml! it is really sweet:) so much 
cleaner, leanerĀ   faster!

 html is pretty forgiving on crappy, sloppy coding but xhtml is not, so if the 
browser isnt guessing what to do and can run straight through it, makes it much 
faster!
 kinda like calling a key in a structure or array instead of pulling it out of 
a list, in other words, it knows exactly whats its doing instead of searching, 
so speed is WHOO HOO!

 would be hilarious is the net switched to it today! can u see all them 
frontpage sites take a big ole dooky!

 on some other boards we were trying to help this guy make his code compliant 
but he refused to leave frontpage, its was totally amazing that u can not make 
that code compliant, no matter what u do! good stuff ms! keep up the good work 
haha


From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This all translates to tens of thousands of extra keystrokes for me. And being 
the lazy coder that I am, I'll deem them unecessary! 

:)

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Re: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread dave
he he me 2!

 that damn glorified frontpage junk! hahaha


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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
No no no!!

I was a bit vague with my response there I guess. I AM coding everything xhtml, 
except those DAMN cfforms are still screwing me!! Friggin FORM in uppercase! 
Who's the idget that did that anyway??

In speaking of extra keystrokes, I'm talkin about cfset blah=blah /

That's useless to me! I'm used to looking at the regular way, which in my mind, 
keeps consistency. 

Sorry super dave! 

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RE: OT: Sql question

2005-02-04 Thread John Munyan
Yes, the crux of the question is how to handle the subset question. In the 
below example a review left for SnowLake would be availble for the Snowlake 
Hike only.  If I user left a review for Gem lake, then the review should be 
available for SnowLake or Gemlake since you pass by Snow lake on your way to 
Gem lake.  Similiarly, Wright Mountain, would show reviews left for Wright 
Mountain, but also for Gem Lake and Snow lake since you pass by them en route 
to Wright Mountain.
 
Thus how do you handle nesting of these elements where one is a subset of 
another...
 
Thanks,

John



From: Umer Farooq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 2/4/2005 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Sql question



John Munyan wrote:
 I have a question about how a relationship would be best modeled in SQL.  
 Currently I have a hiking website, which hosts trail reviews.  People can add 
 their own comments which are associated with the hike.
 
 For instance maybe I hiked snow lake on 12/1/05 and also 6/1/05.  However, 
 the user review gets associated with the instance of the hike either on 
 12/1/05. or 6/1/05.  I want to combine these reviews so that they are 
 associated with both.  I think a group ID could be assigned so this could be 
 accomplished.

Hmm.. wouldn't just querying to figure out if there is another review
from the same user.. for a same trail.. take care of that.. am I missing
something here..

 However...
 
 The real problem however is how to model something like this where one hike 
 is a subset or superset of another.  Take for instance this example.
 
 TrailHead---3miles--Snowlake2milesGemlake---1mile---WrightMountain.
 
 I would like  the Snow lake reviews to be shown when either GemLake is viewed 
 or Wright Mountain.  However, I wouldn't want reviews for Gem Lake when the 
 user is only intending to go to Snowlake.  Thus the problem is how one would 
 handle this superset/subset association of reviews.
 
 If anyone has any thoughts about how this would be handled I would be 
 grateful for the advice.

Simplest thing that comes to my mind is to create a another table..
which holds... review relationship between the trails..

snowLake   :
gemlake: snowLake,trailHead
wrightMountain : snowLake
trailHead  : gemLake

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RE: CFQuery SQL Scope of return?

2005-02-04 Thread Dave Watts
 MS SQL
 CFMX  6.1
 
 How do you limit the score of info returned?
 or
 The equivalent of MySQL
   LIMIT #StartRow#, #NumberRows#

To get the first 5 rows:

SELECT TOP 5 ...

To get the second 5 rows:

SELECT TOP 5 ...
FROM ...
WHERE field NOT IN (SELECT TOP 5 ...)

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Re: OT: CFQuery SQL Scope of return?

2005-02-04 Thread Umer Farooq
SELECT TOP x..

However..

MS SQL Server does not support select range type quries.

If your table does not contain lot of data.. look at CFOUTPUT controls..
otherwise.. SQL StoredProc would give you good results..


Nick Baker wrote:
 MS SQL
 CFMX  6.1
 
 How do you limit the score of info returned?
 or
 The equivalent of MySQL
   LIMIT #StartRow#, #NumberRows#
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nick 


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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread Vince Bonfanti
I'd agree with that. The Apache web server is probably in the same
category--used more in public hosting environments and less behind corporate
firewalls, so surveys that only measure public web servers (such as
Netcraft) tend to be skewed.

Vince 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 1:47 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
 Dave, honestly, I don't think anyone really knows the answer 
 to that one.
 But it is clear that some technologies tend to be used less 
 in internal corporate development (PHP is a perfect example 
 of this) meaning that proportionally there is more of them 
 public facing and that skews any extrapolation of total use 
 based on public facing use.
 
 --- Ben
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:57 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use
 
  And keep in mind that over 80% of CF use is internal stuff, behind 
  firewalls, stuff Google will never see.
 
 Isn't that equally true for every other web application 
 server technology?
 
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Re: cfset ?

2005-02-04 Thread dave
yeah i know just given ya a hard time ;)
 actually i thought u meant xhtml, sorry i gots a hottie on my mind!


From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: cfset ? 

No no no!!

I was a bit vague with my response there I guess. I AM coding everything xhtml, 
except those DAMN cfforms are still screwing me!! Friggin  in uppercase! Who's 
the idget that did that anyway??

In speaking of extra keystrokes, I'm talkin about 

That's useless to me! I'm used to looking at the regular way, which in my mind, 
keeps consistency. 

Sorry super dave! 

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RE: A brief question about lists

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:32 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: A brief question about lists
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 And the results processed fairly quickly? Even with the log files?

Well - the log file stuff I only did in CF 4.5.  They were quick enough, but
the processing was vastly more complicated than just looping over the list
(the logs were made up of many values, some of which where WDDX packets that
had to be dealt with and each row could result in several database writes).

But still - the performance was acceptable (and by that I mean a big file
could take 10 or 20 minutes to process).

CFMX is, on average, about 2-4 times faster than CF 4.5 (sometimes less, but
mostly more).  Also since list management code was some of the oldest in CF
(even in CF 5.0 some of that code dated back to CF 2.0) it got a lot of
attention in CFMX - it's actually PDQ right now.

Depending on your lit contents 350 items really shouldn't be a problem for
most apps.  You'd probably be able to do things quicker, but sometimes fast
enough is good enough.  ;^)

What matters more, to me, is how often the code is run and how visible it
is.  A log-file processor that (like mine) ran once a day at 2AM as an
automated process doesn't really need to be super-optimized.  But a process
that runs every request or could cause a user to wait for a while should be
looked at seriously.

I would try out a sample and time it using getTickCount() - my guess is that
you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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RE: Coldfusion VS ASP.NET use

2005-02-04 Thread dave
too me its like this, ms has a tendency to drop things everytime someone has 
something new (look no futher than asp or google type searches or anti-spyware, 
which is hilarious because their browser installs the spyware then u gotta pay 
them to buy their ani-spyware to get rid of it and make them look like saviors, 
same as aol) and their problem is they cant come up with really anything 
original on their own, they just wait for someone to do it then they try to dup 
it then run the original ppl under.

 coldfusion has been around and keeps growing and getting better and it has a 
solid history, its never just been dumped.

 maybe .net is todays flava but in a way im not sure what will happen down the 
line, maybe im just ignorant.
 but i see things really going down the compliancy highway and even .net code 
has to be pretty well tweaked to get there. which may seem like a small thing 
but u add the rising of alt browsers and the growing trends of validation, it 
really sets up 2 sides, those that follow (most everyone) and those that dont 
(ms) at some point i think ppl are just gunna flat get sick of the patching and 
hacking to get things to work right and ms is gunna fall outta favor with a lot 
of ppl. and i would imagine if their patching gets any worse more ppl will be 
switching to linux servers and well ms has messed that up too by trying to make 
.net only run on windows (imagine that) and not talking bout cfm.net(bd) cause 
im sure that pisses ms to off to hell and back!.

 so when i see their vp saying hes not worried about firefox and that whole 
movement, i have to wonder and its a much bigger deal than just the browsers.

 but anyways, with their history, i can see .net go up a bit more then fall.
 at some point they gotta put some money and effort in fixing there os systems 
instead of putting it towards (so called free) stuff like .net or they will be 
in big trouble and thats where .net is gunna tumble.

not trying to diss ms, just my thoughts :)







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