Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Mike Kear
Evryone seems to be making huge assumptions about Adobe's intentions. 
It's fairly obvious that Flash is one of their subjects of interest,
but other than the very general indications in the press release, we
dont know what Adobe wanted Macromedia FOR.

Suppose they've had a debate in their board about corporate stategy
and decided that they are going to be blind-sided by someone else
unless they get into Internet products.Just suppose that they're
thinking all kinds of doom are about to befall them unless they have a
stable of server products.If that's the case, ColdFusion won't be
a poor relation, it'll be the crown  jewel for them!   It'll mean the
biggest boost ColdFusion's ever had.

We dont know why Adobe bought Macromedia, and for all we know, the
whole thing could have been because they wanted to get hold of people
like Ben Forta and the 400,000 developers, in order to expand their
horizons somewhat. To diversify the Adobe business into new areas.

All this talk about doom for ColdFusion is speculation and until we
have an idea of what Adobe wants to do, it's just plain silly.

Cheers
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RE: Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com

2005-04-19 Thread James Holmes
LOL, they have LabVIEW above VBScript. I happen to know labVIEW because I
did research in a field that it suited, but who else has heard of it?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 2:18 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com

what a goofy index. did you see how it is computed? Lame. No wonder C is at
the top of the list- every school everywhere offers courses in C. A much
more interesting index would be the number of people employed using
particular languages, plus the number of open jobs for particular languages.


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Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Munn
what a goofy index. did you see how it is computed? Lame. No wonder C is at the 
top of the list- every school everywhere offers courses in C. A much more 
interesting index would be the number of people employed using particular 
languages, plus the number of open jobs for particular languages. 

>Anyone have seen this?...
>
>PHP Nº 5 
>
>Coldfusion : Nº 25 
>
>I Hope so Adobe help us to raise one or two levels.. at least we are over
>.NET
>
>
>
>David Manriquez Desarrollador
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Re: Expected 13

2005-04-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
Can you post your SQL, and tell us what DB and driver you're using?

On 4/19/05, Richard Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does this mean exactly:
> 
> Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia]... Expected 13.
> 
> Does the "expected" part actually provide a clue to help debug the
> situation??
> 
> Richard Colman

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Expected 13

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Colman
What does this mean exactly:

Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia]... Expected 13.

Does the "expected" part actually provide a clue to help debug the
situation??

Richard Colman




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RE: CF Database Question

2005-04-19 Thread Andy Ousterhout
What is the database?  SQL 7, Oracle, Access, ?

-Original Message-
From: Ali Awan 

I have a question regarding ColdFusion and database requests.

 

I have 2 applications on different servers, Server A and Server B and they
both access a database on Server C.

The problem is that recently that App1 on Server A and App2 on Server B
ended up hitting the database at the same time.

They both have identical code to insert a new record and whose ID is created
by selecting a max id and incrementing it.

They both ended up with the same ID.

 

What is the best way to avoid this?

I know that it is not possible to lock queries.

 


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Re: CFGrid Flash format and href

2005-04-19 Thread abdul khan
Thank you! This what I was looking for!

>>How can I use href inside of a Flash format grid.
>
>if you mean cfgrid, i think you want the as function getURL(). you can 
>see more here: http://tinyurl.com/dfwem
>
>being a total cavedeweller about the new rich form stuff i've found the 
>following to be pretty good resources:
>
>http://www.cfform.com/
>http://www.asfusion.com/blog/
>http://cfpim.blogspot.com/

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RE: take duplicate out of a list

2005-04-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: CFDEV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: take duplicate out of a list
> 
> Hi, is there an easy way to take duplicate out of a list or do I have to
> loop trough the list and create a new list with all elements and check if
> they are already in the new list before inserting them?

If the order of the list doesn't matter you can skip some of that with
regular expressions - but the list must be sorted.

Essentially you do a regex search for two of the list items in a row and
replace them with a single instance.  You just have to keep looping until
you find no matches (because this will only eliminate pairs at a time).

The number of loops required is directly related to how many sets of dupes
more than two there are - for lists which are mostly unique already you
rarely need more than one loop.

Here's some sample code.  "CurPlan" is a list of matched database ids (for
example something like "10:32,30:35,1:3543,34:645")








Of course, as I said, you have to sort the list for this work - if the
original order matters then this just isn't very useful.

Jim Davis





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Re: take duplicate out of a list

2005-04-19 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 4/19/05, CFDEV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks
> 

http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1193

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Re: Custom tag question

2005-04-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Just an FYI, but you can also build nested tags as well:


  

  


Of course, I've only rarely done this for a real custom tag.

On 4/19/05, Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 08:33 PM 19/04/2005, James Holmes wrote:
> >http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec22.htm
> >
> >http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec23.htm
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> T
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RE: Custom tag question

2005-04-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 08:33 PM 19/04/2005, James Holmes wrote:
>http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec22.htm
>
>http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec23.htm

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Tony Weeg
but, us web designer/developers have a nice leg up on those designer
only people!

we can get DOUBLEFUCKED for less pay!

:) just kidding of course, im more than taken care of!

tony

On 4/19/05, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Web designers are the minority of all grapic designers. Which was my point.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem
> > with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web
> > server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web
> > mainstream.
> >
> > ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When
> > doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become
> > blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those
> > distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures.
> > Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting
> > information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication.
> >
> > Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by
> > Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of
> > presentation of XML content, content management, document management,
> > collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise
> > server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that
> > everyone is familiar with.
> >
> > Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech
> > savvier than people here probably think.
> >
> > ---
> > Kevin Graeme
> > Cooperative Extension Technology Services
> > University of Wisconsin-Extension
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> > >
> > > John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
> > > Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_
> > > majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers
> > > who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and
> > > why it's so popular.
> > >
> > > Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both
> > > areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it
> > > requires to be a master of either, there are many highly
> > > skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can
> > > only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't
> > > important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic
> > > designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still
> > > in print and other media.
> > >
> > > John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a
> > > slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: CF Database Question

2005-04-19 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Ali,

You'd be best off to use a CFTRANSACTION with a high isolation level,
like read_committed or even serializable.

I'm gonna take a stab at this and guess you're using Access?

Keep us posted!

J

On 4/19/05, Ali Awan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a question regarding ColdFusion and database requests.
> 
> I have 2 applications on different servers, Server A and Server B and they
> both access a database on Server C.
> 
> The problem is that recently that App1 on Server A and App2 on Server B
> ended up hitting the database at the same time.
> 
> They both have identical code to insert a new record and whose ID is created
> by selecting a max id and incrementing it.
> 
> They both ended up with the same ID.
> 
> What is the best way to avoid this?
> 
> I know that it is not possible to lock queries.
> 
> If I wrap the queries in a CFTRANSACTION would that prevent this from
> re-occuring?
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ali 


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RE: Custom tag question

2005-04-19 Thread James Holmes
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec22.htm

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/reusec23.htm


-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 7:17 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Custom tag question

I've never seen this done (perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places), but I'd
like to create paired custom tags, so I can do something like this:

Question text
here

And have it build an input tag for me, rather than:



Is there anyway to do this and parse it in ColdFusion?  Would I have to
build a parser to do this, and if so, has anyone ever built a parser like
this?  (It just has to generate the HTML code for the custom tags.)

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RE: take duplicate out of a list

2005-04-19 Thread CFDEV
Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: April 19, 2005 19:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: take duplicate out of a list

You got it.  Though there's a UDF on cflib.org that'll do it, and is already
written.

cheers,
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On 4/19/05, CFDEV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, is there an easy way to take duplicate out of a list or do I have 
> to loop trough the list and create a new list with all elements and 
> check if they are already in the new list before inserting them?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pat

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Re: take duplicate out of a list

2005-04-19 Thread Barney Boisvert
You got it.  Though there's a UDF on cflib.org that'll do it, and is
already written.

cheers,
barneyb

On 4/19/05, CFDEV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, is there an easy way to take duplicate out of a list or do I have to
> loop trough the list and create a new list with all elements and check if
> they are already in the new list before inserting them?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Pat

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take duplicate out of a list

2005-04-19 Thread CFDEV
Hi, is there an easy way to take duplicate out of a list or do I have to
loop trough the list and create a new list with all elements and check if
they are already in the new list before inserting them?
 
Thanks
 
Pat


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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
So you used to work for Allaire?

;)

J

On 4/19/05, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lol, I'd say that you are not the normal designer though...that was my
> point. Anyway I'll move on.
> 
> As for my job, my company got sold (again).  This is the 3rd time in
> like 4 years. 2nd time in the last 18 months since I started here.  I
> think this time we'll be with this company for a while though.
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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RE: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Mike Nimer
There is a clearTrustedCache() method in the runtime.cfc. This will
clear the template cache from memory. But if you have the "Save Class
Files" option checked, I don't think it will delete the files in the
web-inf/classes folder. Would need to double check. 

Hth,
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From: Sam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:54 PM
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Subject: Admin API

Hello all,

I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
missing something.

Any thoughts? Is this possible?

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Re: CF Database Question add.

2005-04-19 Thread Larry White
How are you generating the ID?

>I forgot to add that App1 and App2 are inserting to the same table.
>
>I ended up with 2 records with the same ID.

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Re: CF Database Question add.

2005-04-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 07:45 PM 19/04/2005, Ali Awan wrote:
>I forgot to add that App1 and App2 are inserting to the same table.
>
>I ended up with 2 records with the same ID.

Couldn't you use cflock to lock the table until the first app is done?

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Custom tag question

2005-04-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
I've never seen this done (perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places), but 
I'd like to create paired custom tags, so I can do something like this:

Question text 
here

And have it build an input tag for me, rather than:



Is there anyway to do this and parse it in ColdFusion?  Would I have to 
build a parser to do this, and if so, has anyone ever built a parser like 
this?  (It just has to generate the HTML code for the custom tags.)

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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Larry White
Well that sure din't format too good. hope you get the idea

>You really wouldn't want to break them into individual columns, because
>then if you needed another value you would have to change your table to
>accomodate it. You want to add a row for new values. As Bryan says you 
>need a many to many table to join them. For example, a car could have
>many colors and a color could be used for many cars so the following:
>
> Model_Table   Model_Color_Table   Color_Table
>ModelIDModelIDColorID  IDColor
>Ford  1   1  1  1Blue
>  1  3  2Green
>3Red
>Would show we have a blue and a red ford. Using this method you
>can add as many models or colors as desired and simply join them
>using the Model_Color_table.
>
>> Can you tell me what developers generally use as alternatives?  Should 
>> I break the values into individual columns?  Thanks for your advice!
>> 
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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Larry White
You really wouldn't want to break them into individual columns, because
then if you needed another value you would have to change your table to
accomodate it. You want to add a row for new values. As Bryan says you 
need a many to many table to join them. For example, a car could have
many colors and a color could be used for many cars so the following:

 Model_Table   Model_Color_Table   Color_Table
ModelIDModelIDColorID  IDColor
Ford  1   1  1  1Blue
  1  3  2Green
3Red
Would show we have a blue and a red ford. Using this method you
can add as many models or colors as desired and simply join them
using the Model_Color_table.

> Can you tell me what developers generally use as alternatives?  Should 
> I break the values into individual columns?  Thanks for your advice!
> 
-chris

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CF Database Question add.

2005-04-19 Thread Ali Awan
I forgot to add that App1 and App2 are inserting to the same table.

I ended up with 2 records with the same ID.
This field is not an Identity Field in the DB because it is alphanumeric.

Thanks,
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CF Database Question add.

2005-04-19 Thread Ali Awan
I forgot to add that App1 and App2 are inserting to the same table.

I ended up with 2 records with the same ID.

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CF Database Question

2005-04-19 Thread Ali Awan
I have a question regarding ColdFusion and database requests.

 

I have 2 applications on different servers, Server A and Server B and they
both access a database on Server C.

The problem is that recently that App1 on Server A and App2 on Server B
ended up hitting the database at the same time.

They both have identical code to insert a new record and whose ID is created
by selecting a max id and incrementing it.

They both ended up with the same ID.

 

What is the best way to avoid this?

I know that it is not possible to lock queries.

 

If I wrap the queries in a CFTRANSACTION would that prevent this from
re-occuring?  

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Ali



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Re: The case of the disappearing admin settings.....

2005-04-19 Thread Duncan
Has anyone come across this before? Having Admin settings disappear on
you? Is it a bug I ought to log with MM?

On 4/19/05, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed the settings to cf7 admin the other day with a car file, and
> everything was fine until this morning.  all the scheduled tasks have
> 'disappeared'!  However they still seem to be running (I can see them
> in the scheduler log), and all the other settings pulled in with the
> CAR file are still there.
> 
> I have tried restarting the JRun service and the cf server but to no avail.
> 
> Why have they stopped displaying? Can I get them back? Any suggestions?
> 
> --
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Re: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, well I tried Sean's sugguestion (Thank You Sean) but I'm missing
> something. The error I'm getting is
> "Variable TEMPLATECACHESIZE is undefined" on the cfset for CacheBefore.

It's a STRING not a variable!

Try: getCacheProperty("TemplateCacheSize") with "quotes"
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Re: Macromedia Exchange search down. Need a Forta tag.

2005-04-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On 4/19/05, Emmet McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like the exchange is broken.

Seems to be working just fine for me...

> Ben Forta made a tag to simulate a query results set.  Does anyone have a
> copy.  I wish I could remember what it was called.

Are you thinking of querysim.cfm? Hal Helms / Bert Dawson wrote that.
Should be available from Hal's site or Jeff's grokfusebox site...
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Re: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson


You are referencing the variable "TemplateCacheSize" before defining it ;-) 
perhaps I'm missing something??

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From: "Sam Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Admin API


> Ok, well I tried Sean's sugguestion (Thank You Sean) but I'm missing
> something. The error I'm getting is
> "Variable TEMPLATECACHESIZE is undefined" on the cfset for CacheBefore.
> I commented out all three lines for the getCacheProperty and ran it
> again and got the same error on the cfset for temp2.
>
> I know it's subtle, I just don't see it.
>
> [BEGIN CODE]--
> 
>  CreateObject("component","cfide.adminapi.administrator").login("password
> ")>
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
> CacheBefore: #cachebefore#
> CacheDuring: #cacheduring#
> CacheAfter: #cacheafter#
>
> 
> [END CODE]-
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Admin API
>
> Sam also asked me offlist and my suggestion was to try using the Admin
> API to set the template cache size to zero and then back to the usual
> size (you can use getCacheProperty() / setCacheProperty()). Don't know
> if it would work but it seems worth a try.
>
> The same API also lets you turn trusted cache on and off, amongst other
> things.
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/componentutils/componentdetail.cfm?component
> =CFIDE.adminapi.runtime
>
> (or whatever port / context root you use)
>
> On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
>> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it.
>> What I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that
>> would clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I
>
>> thought I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I
>
>> may be missing something.
>
> 

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RE: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Sam Smith
Ok, well I tried Sean's sugguestion (Thank You Sean) but I'm missing
something. The error I'm getting is
"Variable TEMPLATECACHESIZE is undefined" on the cfset for CacheBefore.
I commented out all three lines for the getCacheProperty and ran it
again and got the same error on the cfset for temp2.

I know it's subtle, I just don't see it.

[BEGIN CODE]--























CacheBefore: #cachebefore#
CacheDuring: #cacheduring#
CacheAfter: #cacheafter#


[END CODE]-

-Original Message-
From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Admin API

Sam also asked me offlist and my suggestion was to try using the Admin
API to set the template cache size to zero and then back to the usual
size (you can use getCacheProperty() / setCacheProperty()). Don't know
if it would work but it seems worth a try.

The same API also lets you turn trusted cache on and off, amongst other
things.

http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/componentutils/componentdetail.cfm?component
=CFIDE.adminapi.runtime

(or whatever port / context root you use)

On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it 
> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. 
> What I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that 
> would clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I

> thought I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I

> may be missing something.

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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> Can you tell me what developers generally use as alternatives?  Should I 
> break the values into individual columns?

The lists should be removed from the table they are in and added to a table 
that contains each unique list elemnt as a record.  That table will contain 
an ID field (unique primary key) and another column that holds the list 
element

Something like this:
List_Item_ID  List_Item
1red
2green
3blue

Then you need another table to relate the original records (that contained 
the column with lists) to specify which list_item(s) are associated with 
each record

Orig_Rec_IDList_Item_ID
1   1
13
23
32
3   3
42

and so on

HTH

Cheers


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RE: Macromedia Exchange search down. Need a Forta tag.

2005-04-19 Thread Emmet McGovern
Exchange is back... Looks like it wasn't a Ben tag after all.  

Those will work fine though.  Thanks.

-e

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia Exchange search down. Need a Forta tag.

I'm not sure what you're after...but it sounds like you need to build your 
own query??

There are native functions in CF to do thislook at QueryNew() and 
QuerySetCell() ;-)

HTH

Cheers

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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Chris McCarthy
>Actually, Chris, what you should do is change your DB to eliminate
>this kind of storage. It's a bad practice. What would have been a
>simple table join now becomes an exercise in list maipulations. You
>will continue to have problems with this setup. 
>
>>-Chris

Hi Larry,

Can you tell me what developers generally use as alternatives?  Should I break 
the values into individual columns?  Thanks for your advice!

-chris

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Calvin Ward
Heck, I've met pretty decent developers who have only a marginal
understanding of web servers.

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that many designers have little
to no practical knowledge of web servers either.

Having done a website doesn't necessarily expose you to web server
technology (you can view an html+css+images+js website on your local hard
drive without ever using a webserver...).

I don't think there's anything derogatory about describing something as
being typically out of a professional's area of expertise. I wouldn't expect
my family doctor to advise me on how to best deal with my dog's epilepsy.

- Calvin

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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the first to
embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized back in the
mid-90's. 

As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all of
them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and others
have become accomplished coders.

I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
offensive.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even 
> understand the concept of a web server. 
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, 
> Inc. | Web Developer





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Re: Macromedia Exchange search down. Need a Forta tag.

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I'm not sure what you're after...but it sounds like you need to build your 
own query??

There are native functions in CF to do thislook at QueryNew() and 
QuerySetCell() ;-)

HTH

Cheers

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Re: Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
David...please stop hi-jacking threadsmake a new message with your own 
subject ;-)

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- Original Message - 
From: "David Manriquez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:52 PM
Subject: Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com


> Anyone have seen this?...
>
> PHP Nº 5
>
> Coldfusion : Nº 25
>
> I Hope so Adobe help us to raise one or two levels.. at least we are over
> ..NET
>
>
>
> David Manriquez Desarrollador
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (+56-2) 43 00 155
>
>
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 17:47
> Para: CF-Talk
> Asunto: Re: Admin API
>
> Sam also asked me offlist and my suggestion was to try using the Admin
> API to set the template cache size to zero and then back to the usual
> size (you can use getCacheProperty() / setCacheProperty()). Don't know
> if it would work but it seems worth a try.
>
> The same API also lets you turn trusted cache on and off, amongst other
> things.
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/componentutils/componentdetail.cfm?component=CFI
> DE.adminapi.runtime
>
> (or whatever port / context root you use)
>
> On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
>> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
>> I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
>> clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
>> I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
>> missing something.
>
>
>
> 

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Macromedia Exchange search down. Need a Forta tag.

2005-04-19 Thread Emmet McGovern
Looks like the exchange is broken.  Maybe they started using GoLive today.
eeesh.  

Ben Forta made a tag to simulate a query results set.  Does anyone have a
copy.  I wish I could remember what it was called. 

Thanks
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Coldfusion is on Nº 25 in tiobe.com

2005-04-19 Thread David Manriquez
Anyone have seen this?...

PHP Nº 5 

Coldfusion : Nº 25 

I Hope so Adobe help us to raise one or two levels.. at least we are over
..NET



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-Mensaje original-
De: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 17:47
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: Admin API

Sam also asked me offlist and my suggestion was to try using the Admin
API to set the template cache size to zero and then back to the usual
size (you can use getCacheProperty() / setCacheProperty()). Don't know
if it would work but it seems worth a try.

The same API also lets you turn trusted cache on and off, amongst other
things.

http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/componentutils/componentdetail.cfm?component=CFI
DE.adminapi.runtime

(or whatever port / context root you use)

On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
> I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
> clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
> I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
> missing something.



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Re: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Sean Corfield
Sam also asked me offlist and my suggestion was to try using the Admin
API to set the template cache size to zero and then back to the usual
size (you can use getCacheProperty() / setCacheProperty()). Don't know
if it would work but it seems worth a try.

The same API also lets you turn trusted cache on and off, amongst other things.

http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/componentutils/componentdetail.cfm?component=CFIDE.adminapi.runtime

(or whatever port / context root you use)

On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
> I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
> clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
> I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
> missing something.

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RE: ColdFusion 5 and Windows 2k Latest Patch set incompatability

2005-04-19 Thread Trey Rouse
We haven't isolated the specific one, but we've narrowed it down to one in
this list:

Microsoft Windows Installer 3.1 Automatic update
Security Update for Windows 2000 (KB893086) Automatic update
Security Update for Windows 2000 (KB890859) Automatic update
Security Update for Windows 2000 (KB893066) Automatic update
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB890923)
Automatic update

I think we can assume it wasn't the IE patch, and probably was not the
windows installer 3.1, but we've not verified it.  Until I have a fail over
server, I'm not willing to try to isolate it, and really, I'm not sure if I
will then.  Problem is once it happened, uninstalling the patch had no
effect, so if I do incremental patch and find the culprit, I'm back to
having to reload from the ground up (roughly 11 hours worth of work).

Trey Rouse
Web Systems Manager - Rice University

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion 5 and Windows 2k Latest Patch set incompatability

Trey Rouse wrote:
> 
> We have a cf5 cluster running on window 2000 advanced server.  This
cluster
> connects to a 3rd windows 2000 server for the actual web root.
> 
> We've configured our CF5 and IIS5 to run under named domain accounts to
lock
> down security, and so that the cf services have permissions to read and
> execute files on the remote host.
> 
> Friday April 15, we applied the latest critical patches to member1 of the
> cluster.

Which ones exactly?

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Web designers are the minority of all grapic designers. Which was my point.

-Adam

On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem
> with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web
> server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web
> mainstream.
> 
> ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When
> doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become
> blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those
> distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures.
> Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting
> information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication.
> 
> Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by
> Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of
> presentation of XML content, content management, document management,
> collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise
> server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that
> everyone is familiar with.
> 
> Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech
> savvier than people here probably think.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services
> University of Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
> > Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_
> > majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers
> > who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and
> > why it's so popular.
> >
> > Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both
> > areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it
> > requires to be a master of either, there are many highly
> > skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can
> > only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't
> > important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic
> > designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still
> > in print and other media.
> >
> > John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a
> > slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders.
> >
> > -Adam
> 
> 

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Re: ColdFusion 5 and Windows 2k Latest Patch set incompatability

2005-04-19 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Trey Rouse wrote:
> 
> We have a cf5 cluster running on window 2000 advanced server.  This cluster
> connects to a 3rd windows 2000 server for the actual web root.
> 
> We've configured our CF5 and IIS5 to run under named domain accounts to lock
> down security, and so that the cf services have permissions to read and
> execute files on the remote host.
> 
> Friday April 15, we applied the latest critical patches to member1 of the
> cluster.

Which ones exactly?

Jochem

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Re: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Adrocknaphobia
I don't belive there is a way to do this from the admin API. Although
its certainly a simple process of deleting the files from the
cfclasses directory. So you could feasibly write a method using cffile
to clear the directory. However if your 17 instance are on multiple
servers you would need someway to make that method publicly accessible
(to trigger the method on other servers), or mount network drives.
Neither are a very elegant solution though.

-Adam

On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
> I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
> clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
> I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
> missing something.
> 
> Any thoughts? Is this possible?
> 
> Samuel Smith ~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Developer, LifeAccess.com Inc.
> _Find Love at www.loveaccess.com_
> 866-823-2200 x211
> 
> 

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Re: recurring dates

2005-04-19 Thread Jonathan Mauney
I took another approach to this... I have two database tables, one for single 
events and one for recurring events, then build the calendar dynamically from 
the two tables. This makes it simple to update or delete recurring events. I'd 
be happy to share the code if you'll email me off list... [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jonathan

>Does anyone have a code snippet for adding recurring dates into a database?
>(ie weekly, bi weekly,  monthly)
>
>Thanks,
>-e

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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-19 Thread Keith Gaughan
Adrocknaphobia wrote:

> Uhhh... considering the post you replied to cut+pasted one of several
> paragraphs which explicity talked about FlashPaper... exactly what are
> you talking about?

The FAQ mentions FlashPaper nowhere. Nowhere. It mentions Flash alright,
but nowhere does it mention FlashPaper. Do a search on the document if
you don't belive me.

> PDF on a mobile device does not make sense. PDF is for PRINT. Why
> would someone want a printable document on thier phone?

Then what's the argument in favour of FlashPaper, or anything that
breaks documents down into fixed-size pages (PowerPoint-style cards
being another matter) on a mobile device?

> Not to mention the quality and filesize issues.

Quality is definitely in PDF's favour. As is file size. That's part of
where my complaint about the use of rasterised fonts comes from: they
bulk up the size of the file. You can take two views on how to store
them: (a) one big rasterisation that's resized as need be, or (b) lots
of little ones, each for whichever size the font will be displayed at.
Both are problematic, both from a bulk and a quality point of view.
Outlines, on the other hand, are mathematical descriptions of the letter
forms and are therefore compact. You needn't store all the letterforms
for the font you're using, only the ones used in the document. Also,
they can be resized without loss of quality. Modern font rendering
technologies use outline fonts exclusively, even on screens.

> FlashPaper is perfect for the mobile
> document. Don't expect them to get rid of it any time soon, the only
> thing you'll most likely see is a different name for it.

K.

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ColdFusion 5 and Windows 2k Latest Patch set incompatability

2005-04-19 Thread Trey Rouse
I'm surprised I've not seen chatter on this, but let me describe what we
observed.

 

We have a cf5 cluster running on window 2000 advanced server.  This cluster
connects to a 3rd windows 2000 server for the actual web root.

 

We've configured our CF5 and IIS5 to run under named domain accounts to lock
down security, and so that the cf services have permissions to read and
execute files on the remote host.

 

Friday April 15, we applied the latest critical patches to member1 of the
cluster.  As soon as it rebooted, it demonstrates behavior of locking the
system process at 100% cpu and the server is virtually unusable from CPU
lock.

 

Unfortunately the same patch set got downloaded on the 2nd member, but
wasn't set to apply.  A power blip on Saturday forced a reboot, patches
applied and same condition presented on this server.

 

 

Attempting to back patches off did not fix the issue (one patch was a MS
kernel patch, so we're not too surprised).

 

Next, we reloaded windows 2k advanced server and patched the server
completely (including last weeks patches).  CF5 will NOT install on a fully
patched server now.  The installer detects a Microsoft runtime needing to be
updated (even though it has been), tries to update, and fails to load.

 

The only solution we had was to only load to SP4 on windows 2k and install
cf5.  We've just got our server back on line since Friday, and have been
unwilling to patch it again, with reasonable fear of the same problem
occurring.  However, we're now exposed to Sasser and other security issues
post SP4.  Once we've restored another cluster member we'll experiment with
incremental patching.

 

I'm curious if anyone else has seen this behavior, if anyone is aware of a
hot-fix from MM or MS that would correct the issue?

 

We recognize that only a small portion of the community would be running a
cf5 cluster in the configuration we are using (named accounts, and working
with iis virtual hosts that point to external file shares).  We do have a
cf5 stand alone box that we patched and it doesn't demonstrate the behavior
at this time.  So we believe it is specific to named accounts.

 

And ideas?

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: Petty Cash/Disbursements

2005-04-19 Thread Ray Champagne
LOL...sorry.  Wish I had a real answer for you now!

Ray

Richard Colman wrote:
> I actually started looking for the "Enron/Worldcom Software Company" before
> I got it ... Google didn't have anything.
> 
> Everybody's a wise guy around here ;-)) 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Petty Cash/Disbursements
> 
> Enron/Worldcom probably has some cheap software that you could use.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Colman wrote:
> 
>>I am looking for a very, very simple app (in CF, of course) to track 
>>petty cash disbursements. I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
>>
>>Does anyone know of anything out there?
>>
>>TNX
>>
>>Rick Colman
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Is a rose by any other name still a rose???...I know I don't care.now 
shh or move this thread plz ;-)

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Burns, John D
Yeah, Adam's got my back. It's that Hopkins brotherhood kickin' in :-) 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_ majority of people
who use dreamweaver are graphic designers who can't even write HTML.
Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and why it's so popular.

Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both areas, but
considering the vast amount of knowledge it requires to be a master of
either, there are many highly skilled graphic designers (that I have
worked with) who can only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding
isn't important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic
designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still in print
and other media.

John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a slur) that
the majority of graphic designers are not coders.

-Adam

On 4/19/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you suck, get over it :)
> 
> jk.
> 
> and im sorry, i just cant agree.  im both.  100% i know more about 
> photoshop than i do cf, yet ill code circles around some of the 
> developers that call themselves developers ... so, whatever... its all

> good.
> 
> just retract your statement and we will stop.  or is this like pen*s 
> envy and you cant design?
> 
> aight mang... take it easy...
> 
> by the way... new job?  didnt you work somewhere else last year?
> 
> tony
> 
> On 4/19/05, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not meaning to be offensive, I'm only pointing out that graphic 
> > designers are not, by nature, programmers.  That's why we 
> > distinguish between the two. The start of my post was pointing out 
> > that Adobe may be able to help boost CF usage by marketing it a 
> > simple way for non-programmers to get basic programming tasks done 
> > on websites (send email, include files, etc).  Of course there are 
> > lots of tricks that one can do with a web server, but usually to 
> > understand those, you have to have worked extensively with web 
> > servers or studied the subject to know about SSI.  Most designers I 
> > have met don't know much about the capabilities of web servers at 
> > all (virtual directories being the simplest example) and I don't 
> > fault them for this as it is not their job.  It's the same way that 
> > I wouldn't expect most programmers on this list to know all of the 
> > keyboard shortcuts or graphical tricks in Photoshop. It's not that 
> > we're stupid and couldn't learn it, but it's not in our daily set of

> > tasks.  I know there are exceptions to certain rules, but I would 
> > say that most people who label themselves as designers probably 
> > don't know much about programming.  If they do know programming, 
> > they would probably classify themselves as designer/developers.  
> > It's all semantics and doesn't really matter, I'm just explaining
the basis for my statements.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. |

> > Web Developer
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the 
> > first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized

> > back in the mid-90's.
> >
> > As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost 
> > all of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg 
> > tools and others have become accomplished coders.
> >
> > I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and

> > offensive.
> >
> > ---
> > Kevin Graeme
> > Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of 
> > Wisconsin-Extension
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> > >
> > > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even 
> > > understand the concept of a web server.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Burns
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc.

> > > | Web Developer
> >
> >
> 
> 



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RE: Petty Cash/Disbursements

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Colman
I actually started looking for the "Enron/Worldcom Software Company" before
I got it ... Google didn't have anything.

Everybody's a wise guy around here ;-)) 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Petty Cash/Disbursements

Enron/Worldcom probably has some cheap software that you could use.  :)



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> I am looking for a very, very simple app (in CF, of course) to track 
> petty cash disbursements. I would rather not re-invent the wheel.
> 
> Does anyone know of anything out there?
> 
> TNX
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Burns, John D
Lol, I'd say that you are not the normal designer though...that was my
point. Anyway I'll move on.

As for my job, my company got sold (again).  This is the 3rd time in
like 4 years. 2nd time in the last 18 months since I started here.  I
think this time we'll be with this company for a while though. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

you suck, get over it :)

jk.

and im sorry, i just cant agree.  im both.  100% i know more about
photoshop than i do cf, yet ill code circles around some of the
developers that call themselves developers ... so, whatever... its all
good.

just retract your statement and we will stop.  or is this like pen*s
envy and you cant design?

aight mang... take it easy...

by the way... new job?  didnt you work somewhere else last year?

tony

On 4/19/05, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not meaning to be offensive, I'm only pointing out that graphic 
> designers are not, by nature, programmers.  That's why we distinguish 
> between the two. The start of my post was pointing out that Adobe may 
> be able to help boost CF usage by marketing it a simple way for 
> non-programmers to get basic programming tasks done on websites (send 
> email, include files, etc).  Of course there are lots of tricks that 
> one can do with a web server, but usually to understand those, you 
> have to have worked extensively with web servers or studied the 
> subject to know about SSI.  Most designers I have met don't know much 
> about the capabilities of web servers at all (virtual directories 
> being the simplest example) and I don't fault them for this as it is 
> not their job.  It's the same way that I wouldn't expect most 
> programmers on this list to know all of the keyboard shortcuts or 
> graphical tricks in Photoshop. It's not that we're stupid and couldn't

> learn it, but it's not in our daily set of tasks.  I know there are 
> exceptions to certain rules, but I would say that most people who 
> label themselves as designers probably don't know much about 
> programming.  If they do know programming, they would probably 
> classify themselves as designer/developers.  It's all semantics and 
> doesn't really matter, I'm just explaining the basis for my
statements.
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | 
> Web Developer
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the 
> first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized 
> back in the mid-90's.
> 
> As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all

> of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools 
> and others have become accomplished coders.
> 
> I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and 
> offensive.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of 
> Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand 
> > the concept of a web server.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. |

> > Web Developer
> 
> 



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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem
with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web
server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web
mainstream.

ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When
doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become
blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those
distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures.
Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting
information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication.

Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by
Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of
presentation of XML content, content management, document management,
collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise
server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that
everyone is familiar with.

Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech
savvier than people here probably think.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
> Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_ 
> majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers 
> who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and 
> why it's so popular.
> 
> Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both 
> areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it 
> requires to be a master of either, there are many highly 
> skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can 
> only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't 
> important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic 
> designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still 
> in print and other media.
> 
> John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a 
> slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders.
> 
> -Adam



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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Larry White
Actually, Chris, what you should do is change your DB to eliminate
this kind of storage. It's a bad practice. What would have been a
simple table join now becomes an exercise in list maipulations. You
will continue to have problems with this setup. 

>I've got a database column which is currently storing comma seperated
>values (i.e. 1,2,3,4 etc.).  What I'm trying to do is compare each
>seperate value to another database column which also has seperated
>values (i.e. 7,8,9,10).  I'm not sure how to parse those values so CF
>compares each individual one.  Right now it seems like it's just
>comparing the first value, or maybe the whole combination but not going
>through each value in sequence to see what matches.
>
>My question is, do I have to pull the data from the columns, set up an
>array, use the ArrayToList function, then have it compare?  Is it easier
>to just have the query filter it initially?  If so, what is the best
>approach? Thanks! :)
>
>-Chris

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Re: Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Ooh, Sam...

I'd love to help, which is why I opened this thread first. Now I find
myself asking you to let us know if you find the answer!

Sorry! But... A+ for Best Question.

J

On 4/19/05, Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
> seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
> I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
> clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
> I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
> missing something.
> 
> Any thoughts? Is this possible?
> 
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Admin API

2005-04-19 Thread Sam Smith
Hello all,

I've been reading through the Admin API for a little while now and it
seems that the function that I'm looking isn't exposed through it. What
I'm looking for is this. My boss asked me to create an app that would
clear the template cache of all our 17 CFMX 7 servers at once. I thought
I could do that through the admin api, but no luck it seems. I may be
missing something.

Any thoughts? Is this possible?

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Struts, CF MX, and java integration

2005-04-19 Thread Bob Jacoby
I'm working on a test project of using struts in a CF environment. I
have it all working where the struts config file routes between cfm
pages correctly, but I'm having problems using some of the struts tag
libraries within CF (specifically retrieving objects set on to the
request scope from struts). The exact same code works in JSP if I
include it within my cfm page (using getPageContext().include(...)).
That's why I'm asking on this list instead of a struts list. I must be
missing something in how CFM and java interact and what objects are
available to CFM...
 
For the struts folks - I have my struts-config file set up to initially
load the startPage.cfm and return to the startPage.cfm if validation
fails within my ActionForm's validate method. The problem I'm having is
when the validation does fail and errors are returned as ActionErrors
(which are placed in the request scope).
 
snippet (startPage.cfm)



No errors from CFM!

 

Errors found from CFM!


 
When run the above code prints "No errors from CFM!" even after it gets
redirected to the startPage.cfm when validation failed. I would have
expected "Errors found from CFM!" 
 
However, if I add the following after  in the
startPage.cfm:

 
and have the following in the "errors.jsp":
<%@ taglib uri="/tags/struts-logic" prefix="logic" %>
 

No errors from JSP!

 

Errors found from JSP!

 
When this is run from within the startPage.cfm after getting redirected
to (after validation fails) I get 
"No errors from CFM! Errors found from JSP...".
 
I'm confused in why the same code within the same request returns
different results. I thought CFM could use request scope variables set
by java?
 
Any pointers?
 
Thanks,
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Re: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Yep...cflib.org has some list functions that will help you compare lists 
(find different or same elementsthat sort of stuff)

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RE: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Adrian Lynch
loop list="col_1" index="i"
loop list="col_2" index="j"
compare i to j here
/loop
/loop

Or check cflib.org for one.

Ade

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Sent: 19 April 2005 19:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How to create query results into a list


Hi guys,

I've got a database column which is currently storing comma seperated values
(i.e. 1,2,3,4 etc.).  What I'm trying to do is compare each seperate value
to another database column which also has seperated values (i.e. 7,8,9,10).
I'm not sure how to parse those values so CF compares each individual one.
Right now it seems like it's just comparing the first value, or maybe the
whole combination but not going through each value in sequence to see what
matches.

My question is, do I have to pull the data from the columns, set up an
array, use the ArrayToList function, then have it compare?  Is it easier to
just have the query filter it initially?  If so, what is the best approach?
Thanks! :)

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RE: How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Tim Do
I'd just use the CF_ListCompare tag.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How to create query results into a list


Hi guys,

I've got a database column which is currently storing comma seperated
values (i.e. 1,2,3,4 etc.).  What I'm trying to do is compare each
seperate value to another database column which also has seperated
values (i.e. 7,8,9,10).  I'm not sure how to parse those values so CF
compares each individual one.  Right now it seems like it's just
comparing the first value, or maybe the whole combination but not going
through each value in sequence to see what matches.

My question is, do I have to pull the data from the columns, set up an
array, use the ArrayToList function, then have it compare?  Is it easier
to just have the query filter it initially?  If so, what is the best
approach? Thanks! :)

-Chris



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Re: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Matthew Vecera
You weren't kidding about the fussy part!  The solution was a two-step one.  
First, I did as you said, just "domain" in both those fields and nothing else - 
not the subdomain, not the extension, nothing.  Then I found out that I needed 
to add the IP Address of the machine to allow ITSELF to relay.  (Properties : 
Access : Relay / Only the list below / Add the IP address).  I would have never 
thought that the smtp server would not allow itself to send emails by default. 
If I change EITHER of these two components, everything stops working.

Thank You Very Much!

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Adrocknaphobia
John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_ majority of
people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers who can't even write
HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and why it's so popular.

Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both areas, but
considering the vast amount of knowledge it requires to be a master of
either, there are many highly skilled graphic designers (that I have
worked with) who can only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding
isn't important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic
designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still in print
and other media.

John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a slur) that
the majority of graphic designers are not coders.

-Adam

On 4/19/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you suck, get over it :)
> 
> jk.
> 
> and im sorry, i just cant agree.  im both.  100% i know more about
> photoshop than i do cf, yet ill code circles around some of the
> developers that call themselves developers ... so, whatever... its all
> good.
> 
> just retract your statement and we will stop.  or is this like pen*s
> envy and you cant design?
> 
> aight mang... take it easy...
> 
> by the way... new job?  didnt you work somewhere else last year?
> 
> tony
> 
> On 4/19/05, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not meaning to be offensive, I'm only pointing out that graphic
> > designers are not, by nature, programmers.  That's why we distinguish
> > between the two. The start of my post was pointing out that Adobe may be
> > able to help boost CF usage by marketing it a simple way for
> > non-programmers to get basic programming tasks done on websites (send
> > email, include files, etc).  Of course there are lots of tricks that one
> > can do with a web server, but usually to understand those, you have to
> > have worked extensively with web servers or studied the subject to know
> > about SSI.  Most designers I have met don't know much about the
> > capabilities of web servers at all (virtual directories being the
> > simplest example) and I don't fault them for this as it is not their
> > job.  It's the same way that I wouldn't expect most programmers on this
> > list to know all of the keyboard shortcuts or graphical tricks in
> > Photoshop. It's not that we're stupid and couldn't learn it, but it's
> > not in our daily set of tasks.  I know there are exceptions to certain
> > rules, but I would say that most people who label themselves as
> > designers probably don't know much about programming.  If they do know
> > programming, they would probably classify themselves as
> > designer/developers.  It's all semantics and doesn't really matter, I'm
> > just explaining the basis for my statements.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the
> > first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized
> > back in the mid-90's.
> >
> > As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all
> > of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and
> > others have become accomplished coders.
> >
> > I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
> > offensive.
> >
> > ---
> > Kevin Graeme
> > Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of
> > Wisconsin-Extension
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> > >
> > > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand
> > > the concept of a web server.
> > >
> > >
> > > John Burns
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. |
> > > Web Developer
> >
> >
> 
> 

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How to create query results into a list

2005-04-19 Thread Chris McCarthy
Hi guys,

I've got a database column which is currently storing comma seperated values 
(i.e. 1,2,3,4 etc.).  What I'm trying to do is compare each seperate value to 
another database column which also has seperated values (i.e. 7,8,9,10).  I'm 
not sure how to parse those values so CF compares each individual one.  Right 
now it seems like it's just comparing the first value, or maybe the whole 
combination but not going through each value in sequence to see what matches.

My question is, do I have to pull the data from the columns, set up an array, 
use the ArrayToList function, then have it compare?  Is it easier to just have 
the query filter it initially?  If so, what is the best approach? Thanks! :)

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Re: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
You could always grab a copy of iMS-Lite which is free and, IMHO, way better 
than using the built-in SMTP server.  Even if you don't wind up using iMS-Lite 
the download includes two SMTP test tools which you might find useful (one is 
used to send test mail via an SMTP server and includes details about the 
protocol and such and the other is an SMTP test server which does't relay mail 
but it does accept it and provides a detailed log).

Regards,

Howie

--- On Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:03 PM, Matthew Vecera scribed: ---
>
> You would think - but then mail would be pooling up in one of the
> folders.  I checked the firewall and the IPSec policy and there is
> nothing blocking SMTP or POP on their respective ports.  
> 


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RE: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

2005-04-19 Thread Jeff Waris
It was a connecter issue... 

Anyone else who is interested. Below re-establishes all the correct
connectors and I was good to go.
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors\Remove_ALL_connectors.bat
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors\IIS_connector.bat

Jeff


> -Original Message-
> From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...
> 
> 
> Right, there's actually 2 settings you can do to get around having to 
> look at the error log, and 1 really great workaround.
> 
> Setting 1:
> CF Administrator, settings page, turn off "Enable HTTP status codes"
> 
> Setting 2:
> IE Tools > Options > Advanced, turn off "Show friendly HTTP 
> error messages"
> 
> Complete workaround:
> Get firefox (www.getfirefox.com).
> 
> -nathan strutz
> http://www.dopefly.com/
> 
> 
> Figy, Kam wrote:
> > Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in 
> the CF log 
> > file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. 
> Logs are in 
> > C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)
> > 
> > /k
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site... 
> > 
> > I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone 
> could help. 
> > I run CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use 
> > internally. So I
> > set another one up on our development box for a new site. 
> NO biggie. I
> > can
> > serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process 
> a CFM page I
> > get
> > this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am 
> completely baffled
> > by
> > why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
> > Coldfusion? I
> > have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this 
> (setting the
> > application security lower...), but it seems these 
> solutions were for
> > CF5.
> > The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither 
> is a bunch of
> > others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have 
> anything similar
> > happen
> > to them?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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RE: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread RADEMAKERS Tanguy
does the mail server maintain some kind of log file? 

>-Original Message-
>From: Matthew Vecera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:03 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?
>
>You would think - but then mail would be pooling up in one of 
>the folders.  I checked the firewall and the IPSec policy and 
>there is nothing blocking SMTP or POP on their respective ports.
>
>

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Tony Weeg
you suck, get over it :)

jk.

and im sorry, i just cant agree.  im both.  100% i know more about
photoshop than i do cf, yet ill code circles around some of the
developers that call themselves developers ... so, whatever... its all
good.

just retract your statement and we will stop.  or is this like pen*s
envy and you cant design?

aight mang... take it easy...

by the way... new job?  didnt you work somewhere else last year?

tony

On 4/19/05, Burns, John D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not meaning to be offensive, I'm only pointing out that graphic
> designers are not, by nature, programmers.  That's why we distinguish
> between the two. The start of my post was pointing out that Adobe may be
> able to help boost CF usage by marketing it a simple way for
> non-programmers to get basic programming tasks done on websites (send
> email, include files, etc).  Of course there are lots of tricks that one
> can do with a web server, but usually to understand those, you have to
> have worked extensively with web servers or studied the subject to know
> about SSI.  Most designers I have met don't know much about the
> capabilities of web servers at all (virtual directories being the
> simplest example) and I don't fault them for this as it is not their
> job.  It's the same way that I wouldn't expect most programmers on this
> list to know all of the keyboard shortcuts or graphical tricks in
> Photoshop. It's not that we're stupid and couldn't learn it, but it's
> not in our daily set of tasks.  I know there are exceptions to certain
> rules, but I would say that most people who label themselves as
> designers probably don't know much about programming.  If they do know
> programming, they would probably classify themselves as
> designer/developers.  It's all semantics and doesn't really matter, I'm
> just explaining the basis for my statements.
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the
> first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized
> back in the mid-90's.
> 
> As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all
> of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and
> others have become accomplished coders.
> 
> I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
> offensive.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of
> Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand
> > the concept of a web server.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. |
> > Web Developer
> 
> 

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Re: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Matthew Vecera
You would think - but then mail would be pooling up in one of the folders.  I 
checked the firewall and the IPSec policy and there is nothing blocking SMTP or 
POP on their respective ports.

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RE: Correct way to test for nested members

2005-04-19 Thread Steve Brownlee
The easiest way is the isDefined function.  It has apparently fallen out of
favor lately, but it will do just fine in this case.


   

   
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Correct way to test for nested members

Say I've got a structure of structures:

variables.transportation.boat.aluminum.jon

What's the correct way to test for the the definition of, say, the "jon" var,
if I'm also unsure of the presence of the containing struct(s)?

Thanks,
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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Burns, John D
Nobody asked you Tony :-)  J/K... You're a perfect example for the post
I just made.  You may have started as a designer but now you at least
classify yourself as also being a programmer because of the experience
you gained.  My comment was for pure designers who are not programmers.



John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

Yah, and i have to agree as well.. I was a graphic designer for 2 years
or so, then web programmer/graphic designer, and now i do it all.

so if it werent for Graphic design i wouldnt be here :)

tw

On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the 
> first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized 
> back in the mid-90's.
> 
> As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all

> of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools 
> and others have become accomplished coders.
> 
> I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and 
> offensive.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of 
> Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand 
> > the concept of a web server.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. |

> > Web Developer
> 
> 



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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Burns, John D
I'm not meaning to be offensive, I'm only pointing out that graphic
designers are not, by nature, programmers.  That's why we distinguish
between the two. The start of my post was pointing out that Adobe may be
able to help boost CF usage by marketing it a simple way for
non-programmers to get basic programming tasks done on websites (send
email, include files, etc).  Of course there are lots of tricks that one
can do with a web server, but usually to understand those, you have to
have worked extensively with web servers or studied the subject to know
about SSI.  Most designers I have met don't know much about the
capabilities of web servers at all (virtual directories being the
simplest example) and I don't fault them for this as it is not their
job.  It's the same way that I wouldn't expect most programmers on this
list to know all of the keyboard shortcuts or graphical tricks in
Photoshop. It's not that we're stupid and couldn't learn it, but it's
not in our daily set of tasks.  I know there are exceptions to certain
rules, but I would say that most people who label themselves as
designers probably don't know much about programming.  If they do know
programming, they would probably classify themselves as
designer/developers.  It's all semantics and doesn't really matter, I'm
just explaining the basis for my statements. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the
first to embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized
back in the mid-90's. 

As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all
of them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and
others have become accomplished coders.

I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
offensive.

---
Kevin Graeme
Cooperative Extension Technology Services University of
Wisconsin-Extension 


> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand 
> the concept of a web server.
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | 
> Web Developer





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Correct way to test for nested members

2005-04-19 Thread jacksonj
Say I've got a structure of structures:

variables.transportation.boat.aluminum.jon

What's the correct way to test for the the definition of, say, the "jon" var, 
if I'm also unsure of the presence of the containing struct(s)?

Thanks,
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Re: Easier way to loop though weekends?

2005-04-19 Thread Larry White
Couldn't you just use the following directly?





>Nope...
>
>Duh.
>
>

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Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Tony Weeg
Yah, and i have to agree as well.. I was a graphic designer for 2
years or so, then web programmer/graphic designer, and now i do it
all.

so if it werent for Graphic design i wouldnt be here :)

tw

On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the first to
> embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized back in the
> mid-90's.
> 
> As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all of
> them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and others
> have become accomplished coders.
> 
> I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
> offensive.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services
> University of Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even
> > understand the concept of a web server.
> >
> >
> > John Burns
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories,
> > Inc. | Web Developer
> 
> 

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Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Johnson
Ok.  Figured it out.  Had to embed the font and set the _global.style to 
use the embeded font.

Greg Johnson wrote:

>Ya.  Thats what I started doing with the listbox, its just that I would 
>rather it fade in with the rest instead of just pop on when the fade is 
>done.  I don't know why its forcing that text to be visable. :-(
>
>dave wrote:
>
>  
>
>>hide it  like
>>  listbox_mc._visible = false;
>>
>>then depending on when you want to unhide it call it back on button click or 
>>whatever
>>listbox_mc._visible = true;
>>
>>
>>From: Greg Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:08 PM
>>To: CF-Talk 
>>Subject: Re: Need pointing in right direction for Flash Styles 
>>
>>Ok. I got the colors and fonts working. Now I just have the problem 
>>that when I have a component in a sub-movie and I set the sub-movie's 
>>alpha to 0, any text the component uses still shows up.
>>
>>So say on a frame I have a movie object called listdialog, and in the 
>>movie I have a list box component and 3 button components. If I set 
>>listdialog to an alpha of 0 and put a stop in the AS I won't see the 
>>button shapes, but I will see there text labels.
>>
>>What am I missing?
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Graeme
I respectfully disagree. The graphic design industry was one of the first to
embrace the web when it was finally becoming commercialized back in the
mid-90's. 

As a graphic designer, I know plenty of other designers and almost all of
them have done web sites for people. Some use just wysiwyg tools and others
have become accomplished coders.

I find your blanket dismissal of graphic designers as derogatory and
offensive.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!
> 
> Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even 
> understand the concept of a web server. 
> 
> 
> John Burns
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, 
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RE: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Kerry
Well, if CF verifies the connection, then we have to assume that its the IIS
setup of SMTP, which I have found can be a bit fussy, but is stable enough
once setup.

What I have found is often the issue is the masquerade domain and fully
qualified domain (SMTP site properties -> delivery -> properties) to make
this work I have put the domain name of a domain i own into both properties,
without www. or .com.


-Original Message-
From: Matthew J. Vecera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 April 2005 18:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?


Hi,

Hoping someone can help.

We have a site that is in the process of moving to a new host.  We setup a
subdomain on the NEW server so that they can test the application before
switching over completely.

The big difference between the two locations is the mail service.  In the
old location, we had the CF Administrator point to an iMail mailserver (on
a different box) ... worked great.

In the new environment (WIN2K3 if that matters) the client wants to use the
SMTP services installed via IIS (so its the same box as the web server) to
send all the mail.  (I would have thought that you needed MSExchange to do
this.)

I have the CFAdministrator pointing to the local IP Address and the
connection verified fine.  However, I cannot send any mail.  Nothing shows
up in the DROP or BADMAIL folders - nothing show up anywhere.

The client needs to know that the "mail sending" portion of the application
works before they make the switch official and I change the subdomain
(test.mydomain.com) over to the real domain name (www.mydomain.com).

Anyone have experience setting it up this way?

Matthew

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Re: CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Howie Hamlin
It's possible that the server is accepting the mail but is then unable to send 
it.  Make sure that the server is not blocked in the firewall from sending on 
port 25.

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--- On Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:04 PM, Matthew J. Vecera scribed: ---
>
> Hi,
> 
> Hoping someone can help.
> 
> We have a site that is in the process of moving to a new host.  We
> setup a 
> subdomain on the NEW server so that they can test the application
> before 
> switching over completely.
> 
> The big difference between the two locations is the mail service.  In
> the 
> old location, we had the CF Administrator point to an iMail
> mailserver (on 
> a different box) ... worked great.
> 
> In the new environment (WIN2K3 if that matters) the client wants to
> use the 
> SMTP services installed via IIS (so its the same box as the web
> server) to 
> send all the mail.  (I would have thought that you needed MSExchange
> to do 
> this.)
> 
> I have the CFAdministrator pointing to the local IP Address and the
> connection verified fine.  However, I cannot send any mail.  Nothing
> shows 
> up in the DROP or BADMAIL folders - nothing show up anywhere.
> 
> The client needs to know that the "mail sending" portion of the
> application 
> works before they make the switch official and I change the subdomain
> (test.mydomain.com) over to the real domain name (www.mydomain.com).
> 
> Anyone have experience setting it up this way?
> 
> Matthew
> 
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Re: Bloomberg article

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Munn
I think you hit the nail on the head. I could easily see Acrobat supporting PDF 
for print and FlashPDF (formerly Flashpaper) for online presentation. Same 
source document, different "distillation", to use the Adobe terminology.

>You mean the new FlashPDF (formerly flashpaper)? I love it. 
>
>> Everyone who's been using flashpaper on the sites I use it on rave 
>> about.
> 
>> You may not like it but the uses sure do, slick, clean, fast, no adobe 
>> plugin necessary, sure it needs a flash one but who doesn't have 
>> that?

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CF7, IIS, Subdomain, SMTP - how to send mail?

2005-04-19 Thread Matthew J. Vecera
Hi,

Hoping someone can help.

We have a site that is in the process of moving to a new host.  We setup a 
subdomain on the NEW server so that they can test the application before 
switching over completely.

The big difference between the two locations is the mail service.  In the 
old location, we had the CF Administrator point to an iMail mailserver (on 
a different box) ... worked great.

In the new environment (WIN2K3 if that matters) the client wants to use the 
SMTP services installed via IIS (so its the same box as the web server) to 
send all the mail.  (I would have thought that you needed MSExchange to do 
this.)

I have the CFAdministrator pointing to the local IP Address and the 
connection verified fine.  However, I cannot send any mail.  Nothing shows 
up in the DROP or BADMAIL folders - nothing show up anywhere.

The client needs to know that the "mail sending" portion of the application 
works before they make the switch official and I change the subdomain 
(test.mydomain.com) over to the real domain name (www.mydomain.com).

Anyone have experience setting it up this way?

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RE: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread David Manriquez
Don't you know that?

CF was the Support for the First Electronic Pope Election..

:-P

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-Mensaje original-
De: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 12:59
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: New Pope

> God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)
> 
> 
> David Manriquez Desarrollador
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (+56-2) 43 00 155

Huhdoes he use CF? or perhaps you meant to post to CF-Community?

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RE: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread Kerry
if there isnt a new  can we keep it off the list please?

-Original Message-
From: David Manriquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 April 2005 17:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Pope


God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)


David Manriquez Desarrollador
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Mensaje original-
De: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 12:39
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

Right, there's actually 2 settings you can do to get around having to
look at the error log, and 1 really great workaround.

Setting 1:
CF Administrator, settings page, turn off "Enable HTTP status codes"

Setting 2:
IE Tools > Options > Advanced, turn off "Show friendly HTTP error messages"

Complete workaround:
Get firefox (www.getfirefox.com).

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


Figy, Kam wrote:
> Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in the CF log
> file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. Logs are in
> C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)
>
> /k
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...
>
> I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I
> run
> CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally.
> So I
> set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I
> can
> serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I
> get
> this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled
> by
> why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
> Coldfusion? I
> have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
> application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for
> CF5.
> The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
> others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar
> happen
> to them?
>
> Thanks!
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>





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RE: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: David Manriquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)

Hijacked thread and OT.




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Re: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)
> 
> 
> David Manriquez Desarrollador
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (+56-2) 43 00 155

Huhdoes he use CF? or perhaps you meant to post to CF-Community?

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RE: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread John Stanley
right

-Original Message-
From: David Manriquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Pope


God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)


David Manriquez Desarrollador
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(+56-2) 43 00 155



-Mensaje original-
De: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 12:39
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

Right, there's actually 2 settings you can do to get around having to 
look at the error log, and 1 really great workaround.

Setting 1:
CF Administrator, settings page, turn off "Enable HTTP status codes"

Setting 2:
IE Tools > Options > Advanced, turn off "Show friendly HTTP error messages"

Complete workaround:
Get firefox (www.getfirefox.com).

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


Figy, Kam wrote:
> Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in the CF log
> file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. Logs are in
> C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)
> 
> /k
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site... 
> 
> I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I
> run
> CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally.
> So I
> set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I
> can
> serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I
> get
> this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled
> by
> why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
> Coldfusion? I
> have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
> application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for
> CF5.
> The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
> others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar
> happen
> to them?
> 
> Thanks!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 





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RE: New Pope

2005-04-19 Thread David Manriquez
God Bless to the new Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph RatZinger)


David Manriquez Desarrollador
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(+56-2) 43 00 155



-Mensaje original-
De: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Martes, 19 de Abril de 2005 12:39
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: Re: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

Right, there's actually 2 settings you can do to get around having to 
look at the error log, and 1 really great workaround.

Setting 1:
CF Administrator, settings page, turn off "Enable HTTP status codes"

Setting 2:
IE Tools > Options > Advanced, turn off "Show friendly HTTP error messages"

Complete workaround:
Get firefox (www.getfirefox.com).

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


Figy, Kam wrote:
> Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in the CF log
> file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. Logs are in
> C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)
> 
> /k
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site... 
> 
> I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I
> run
> CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally.
> So I
> set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I
> can
> serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I
> get
> this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled
> by
> why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
> Coldfusion? I
> have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
> application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for
> CF5.
> The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
> others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar
> happen
> to them?
> 
> Thanks!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: Easier way to loop though weekends?

2005-04-19 Thread Emmet McGovern
Nope...

Duh.








#recurdate#







-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Easier way to loop though weekends?

Looks good... but my opinion might be biased. =]

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Easier way to loop though weekends?


I'm writing a script to insert groups of weekend dates in a db.  I've
managed to do it but I'm curious if I've written the most efficient way.
The dates will be entered by a form and I needed to compensate for the user
entering a start date that wasn't a weekend date, otherwise the first
conditional loop would fail.  Check my code below.  I've set the recurdate
and number of weekends manually for examples sake.  I adjust at the
beginning and end to ensure the next date set in the loop will be a weekend.
For some reason it just seems sloppy.

Thanks,
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Re: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

2005-04-19 Thread Nathan Strutz
Right, there's actually 2 settings you can do to get around having to 
look at the error log, and 1 really great workaround.

Setting 1:
CF Administrator, settings page, turn off "Enable HTTP status codes"

Setting 2:
IE Tools > Options > Advanced, turn off "Show friendly HTTP error messages"

Complete workaround:
Get firefox (www.getfirefox.com).

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/


Figy, Kam wrote:
> Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in the CF log
> file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. Logs are in
> C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)
> 
> /k
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site... 
> 
> I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I
> run
> CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally.
> So I
> set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I
> can
> serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I
> get
> this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled
> by
> why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
> Coldfusion? I
> have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
> application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for
> CF5.
> The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
> others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar
> happen
> to them?
> 
> Thanks!
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

2005-04-19 Thread Figy, Kam
Occasionally CF does not serve proper error pages. Look in the CF log
file, it will contain the actual CF error that occurred. Logs are in
C:\cfusionmx\logs (exception.log iirc)

/k

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Waris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site... 

I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I
run
CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally.
So I
set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I
can
serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I
get
this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled
by
why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't
Coldfusion? I
have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for
CF5.
The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar
happen
to them?

Thanks!
Jeff




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Re: JVM settings on CFMX7 on JRUN4

2005-04-19 Thread Michael Traher
Thanks - that worked

On 4/19/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should be able to just drop it into the lib folder of your server.  If
> it's a default install just place it in
> C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\WEB-INF\lib
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 April 2005 16:01
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: JVM settings on CFMX7 on JRUN4
> 
> I've upgraded my developer copy of CFMX from 6.1 to 7.
> 
> I have chosen the multiple server on JRUN 4 version.
> 
> I need to add a jar file (for the particular jdbc driver we use) to
> the class path.
> 
> Where do I do that now?  It no longer appears in the CFADMIN options.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

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Issue getting Coldfusion to process pages on new site...

2005-04-19 Thread Jeff Waris
I had an odd issue the other day and I was hoping someone could help. I run
CFMX here and we have some testing IP addresses that we use internally. So I
set another one up on our development box for a new site. NO biggie. I can
serve out HTML pages just fine. As soon as I go to process a CFM page I get
this error. "Error 500: Internal Server Error". I am completely baffled by
why it couldn't serve the page. IIS sees the site, why doesn't Coldfusion? I
have tried some solutions from macromedia regarding this (setting the
application security lower...), but it seems these solutions were for CF5.
The new site is NOT in the WWWROOT directory, but neither is a bunch of
others and they work. So I am at a loss? Anyone have anything similar happen
to them?

Thanks!
Jeff


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RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

2005-04-19 Thread Burns, John D
Again, we're talking graphic designers.  Most don't even understand the
concept of a web server. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

> Another plus for CF is that all of the graphic designers out there now

> have an easy-to-learn product that they can use to make their websites

> better.  CF may catch on for the "little guy" even more who isn't a 
> "programmer" but wants to use  so his menu only has to 
> exist in one file.

That is an incredibly expensive liscense fee being paid to do an SSI
when  Can be done for free on
almost any Apache server ;-)

--
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RE: Easier way to loop though weekends?

2005-04-19 Thread Kevin Aebig
Looks good... but my opinion might be biased. =]

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Easier way to loop though weekends?


I'm writing a script to insert groups of weekend dates in a db.  I've
managed to do it but I'm curious if I've written the most efficient way.
The dates will be entered by a form and I needed to compensate for the user
entering a start date that wasn't a weekend date, otherwise the first
conditional loop would fail.  Check my code below.  I've set the recurdate
and number of weekends manually for examples sake.  I adjust at the
beginning and end to ensure the next date set in the loop will be a weekend.
For some reason it just seems sloppy.

Thanks,
emmet















#recurdate#


















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Re: Petty Cash/Disbursements

2005-04-19 Thread Ray Champagne
Enron/Worldcom probably has some cheap software that you could use.  :)



Richard Colman wrote:
> I am looking for a very, very simple app (in CF, of course) to track petty
> cash disbursements. I would rather not re-invent the wheel. 
> 
> Does anyone know of anything out there?
> 
> TNX
> 
> Rick Colman
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Petty Cash/Disbursements

2005-04-19 Thread Richard Colman
I am looking for a very, very simple app (in CF, of course) to track petty
cash disbursements. I would rather not re-invent the wheel. 

Does anyone know of anything out there?

TNX

Rick Colman



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RE: Installing CFMX 6.1 on Windows Server 2003 Web Edition - Problems

2005-04-19 Thread Ian Vaughan
Sorted out the problem it was to do with a problem with the lan card and
IIS 

-Original Message-
From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 April 2005 15:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Installing CFMX 6.1 on Windows Server 2003 Web Edition -
Problems

Do you have McAfee or any other anti-virus software doing port-filtering
on the server?

George



On 4/19/05, Ian Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Server Running
> - JNDI listen port in jndi.properties blocked by TCP/IP filtering 
> or firewall on server
> - host restriction in security.properties blocking communication 
> with server



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Re: CFMX7 schedule task every < 60 seconds.

2005-04-19 Thread Greg Fuller
Thanks Dave,

Oddly enough, I have since discovered that the cfschedule tag WILL let you  
schedule in increments of less than 60 seconds, even though you can't do  
it administrator.

--Greg

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:50:46 -0500, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Does anyone know how to get the cfmx7 scheduler to schedule a
>> task for execution more frequently than 60 seconds.  If you
>> enter less than "60" in the seconds box, you get the error
>> "The task interval must be greater then 60 seconds.". I'm
>> willing to invoke sorcery or edit obscure configuration files
>> if necessary.
>
> I don't know if you can shorten that interval from within CF - my guess  
> is
> no - but there's no reason why you can't add multiple tasks to the CF
> scheduler that run the same page. You may also be able to schedule tasks  
> to
> run more frequently from the OS task scheduler (or you might not, for  
> all I
> know).
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: JVM settings on CFMX7 on JRUN4

2005-04-19 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
You should be able to just drop it into the lib folder of your server.  If
it's a default install just place it in
C:\JRun4\servers\cfusion\cfusion-ear\cfusion-war\WEB-INF\lib



-Original Message-
From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 April 2005 16:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: JVM settings on CFMX7 on JRUN4

I've upgraded my developer copy of CFMX from 6.1 to 7.

I have chosen the multiple server on JRUN 4 version.

I need to add a jar file (for the particular jdbc driver we use) to
the class path.

Where do I do that now?  It no longer appears in the CFADMIN options.

Thanks



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Easier way to loop though weekends?

2005-04-19 Thread Emmet McGovern
I'm writing a script to insert groups of weekend dates in a db.  I've
managed to do it but I'm curious if I've written the most efficient way.
The dates will be entered by a form and I needed to compensate for the user
entering a start date that wasn't a weekend date, otherwise the first
conditional loop would fail.  Check my code below.  I've set the recurdate
and number of weekends manually for examples sake.  I adjust at the
beginning and end to ensure the next date set in the loop will be a weekend.
For some reason it just seems sloppy.

Thanks,
emmet















#recurdate#
















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