Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> To install this latest release of the framework, can I
> just extract
> over the old one or should I delete everything there
> first?

I don't think anything important has been deleted... You should be
able to just extract over the existing installation... If you have any
problems with it, let me know. :)

At some point in the indeterminate future, hopefully there will be
upgrade installers for the core (as well as plugins) which will work
through the Plugin Manager, along with a syndication feature in the
Plugin Manager. The idea being that once all that groundwork is done,
you should be able to go to the Plugin Manager and select a "check for
updates" link or something similar and decide with a browser interface
if / when / how you want to install the latest version. Of course, I
have to find the time to build that. :)

I also recommend WinMerge for Windows users if you're just curious
about the changes since your last install. WinMerge will allow you to
compare a pair of directories (and of course subdirectories), which
makes it easier to see which files have been modified. I expect I'll
probably be using Subversion in the future as well, which should make
WinMerge superfluous.

s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
new epoch : isn't it time for a change?

add features without fixtures with
the onTap open source framework

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RE: CFDUMP for PHP

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFDUMP for PHP
> 
> Well done... thats extremely handy!
> 

Very cool.

I've been working on something similar for JavaScript.  It doesn't share the
color scheme of CFDUMP however:  ;^)

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Test/

Pretty soon we'll be able to dump in all sorts of places we were never
allowed to dump in before!

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WDDX Replacement Attempt - Take a Look!

[Jim Davis]

I've made some decisions and posted some samples.  Thanks everybody for all
your help!

I think I've hit upon an appropriate name... get ready... here it comes...

YODEL

It stand for "Yet another Open Data Exchange Language".  Also Yodeling began
as a method for passing messaged from mountain peak to mountain peak using
only simple modulations of voice... all told it seems appropriate.

What do you guys think?

I've posted the XSD here:

http://www.depressedpress.com/yodel/yodel.xsd

I changed things around a little bit.  I didn't make the metadata create new
types (to do that I would have had to allow the "type" attribute to take any
value).  Instead I changed the "label" attribute.

 now takes a "name" attribute.   now takes a "metadata" attribute to
link it to the name.  This is a little more descriptive that what I had.

I've completed the JavaScript serializer.  It's included in my
dp_ObjectExtensions library.  An early beta of this is here:

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Test/

The serializer in that library converts JavaScript objects to:

+) HTML (for use in a JS dump tag, also in the library).
+) YODEL (because that was really the point).
+) WDDX (because it deserves some love).
+) JSON (because I think its nifty).

The WDDX and JSON parsers are brand new - built from the group up and, if I
do say so myself, a little cleaner.  They may also be faster (I'm using
REGEXs instead of per-character string parsing) but I'm not sure.

This is all alpha/beta level now - I'd love any testing you might want to
try (or suggestions for testing).  The WDDX and JSON serializers should
always produce packets useable by the SDK parsers.  The YODEL serializer
should always produce valid packets according to the XSD.

The code has been tested in FireFox 1 and IE 6.

In any case you're interested take a look.  Let me know if you have any
suggestions or find any bugs.

Is anybody interested in contributing to this?  The JavaScript deserializers
are going to be a bear, but doable.  I'm looking to:

+) Rewrite the WDDX deserializer to take advantage of the DOM (which should
speed things up a lot).

+) Create the YODEL deserializer.

+) Create a new JSON deserializer (just so that it can be part of the object
extensions.)

+) Create a companion ColdFusion CFC that can serialize and deserialize
these three formats (yodel, WDDX and JSON) as well.

(I really think that the transfer mechanism shouldn't dictate software: by
combining all this stuff into single interfaces we're leaving the door open
to use the best enconding mechanism for the job, switching to another with
little work or just being able to provide multiple interfaces.)

If anybody wants to take one of those, or help in the testing it would be
very much appreciated.

Jim Davis





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Re: CFDUMP for PHP

[Kevin Aebig]

Well done... thats extremely handy!

Cheers,

Kevin

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Hewitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: CFDUMP for PHP


> This may be a little OT but for those of you who also code in php and
> always wanted a cfdump there is something now available. Check out:
> http://dbug.ospinto.com/.
>
> - Andrew Hewitt
>
> 

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Re: cfchart issues... (sub domain)

[Tony Weeg]

and there is the /cfide virt. dir.

:( tw

On 8/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes the subdomain is setup as a diff iis site.
> 
> tw
> 
> On 8/18/05, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
> > is accessible
> > http://reports.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
> > is not.
> >
> > is the subdomain setup as a different IIS site?  no /cfide virtual dir
> > in this?
> >
> > just stabbing
> >
> > DK
> >
> > On 8/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi there.
> > >
> > > still battling the sub domain and the cfchart, where it just doesnt show 
> > > the
> > > swf.  if you right click in the area where you should be able to see
> > > the chart...
> > > you see the normal right click context menu of any flash swf.  however its
> > > the chart is just not there. if i sniff the http headers, i see an object
> > > not found error.
> > >
> > > some of you suggested that i have a virtual directory
> > > under the subdomain, that is the /cfide directory under the
> > > server root (i tried all the CFIDE directories for that matter)
> > > and that didnt help.  any other ideas?
> > >
> > > http://reports.navtrak.net/test_reportLogGraph.cfm is the url.
> > >
> > > you can click on the top report, and you will see what i mean.
> > >
> > > IF i put this same file under www.navtrak.net, its all good.
> > >
> > > HELP :) if you can... thank you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > tony
> > >
> > > Tony Weeg
> > > tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 

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Re: cfchart issues... (sub domain)

[Tony Weeg]

yes the subdomain is setup as a diff iis site.

tw

On 8/18/05, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
> is accessible
> http://reports.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
> is not.
> 
> is the subdomain setup as a different IIS site?  no /cfide virtual dir
> in this?
> 
> just stabbing
> 
> DK
> 
> On 8/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi there.
> >
> > still battling the sub domain and the cfchart, where it just doesnt show the
> > swf.  if you right click in the area where you should be able to see
> > the chart...
> > you see the normal right click context menu of any flash swf.  however its
> > the chart is just not there. if i sniff the http headers, i see an object
> > not found error.
> >
> > some of you suggested that i have a virtual directory
> > under the subdomain, that is the /cfide directory under the
> > server root (i tried all the CFIDE directories for that matter)
> > and that didnt help.  any other ideas?
> >
> > http://reports.navtrak.net/test_reportLogGraph.cfm is the url.
> >
> > you can click on the top report, and you will see what i mean.
> >
> > IF i put this same file under www.navtrak.net, its all good.
> >
> > HELP :) if you can... thank you.
> >
> > --
> > tony
> >
> > Tony Weeg
> > tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: cfchart issues... (sub domain)

[Douglas Knudsen]

http://www.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
is accessible
http://reports.navtrak.net/CFIDE/GraphData.cfm?graphCache=wc50&graphID=Images/11.SWF
is not.

is the subdomain setup as a different IIS site?  no /cfide virtual dir
in this?

just stabbing

DK

On 8/18/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi there.
> 
> still battling the sub domain and the cfchart, where it just doesnt show the
> swf.  if you right click in the area where you should be able to see
> the chart...
> you see the normal right click context menu of any flash swf.  however its
> the chart is just not there. if i sniff the http headers, i see an object
> not found error.
> 
> some of you suggested that i have a virtual directory
> under the subdomain, that is the /cfide directory under the
> server root (i tried all the CFIDE directories for that matter)
> and that didnt help.  any other ideas?
> 
> http://reports.navtrak.net/test_reportLogGraph.cfm is the url.
> 
> you can click on the top report, and you will see what i mean.
> 
> IF i put this same file under www.navtrak.net, its all good.
> 
> HELP :) if you can... thank you.
> 
> --
> tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com
> 
> 

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cfchart question (for when i can get it to work )

[Tony Weeg]

i see on the cfchart that the bar graph "Bars" are clickable
but i dont see where to set what that click event should do.

am i missing something?

thank ye.

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cfchart issues... (sub domain)

[Tony Weeg]

hi there.

still battling the sub domain and the cfchart, where it just doesnt show the
swf.  if you right click in the area where you should be able to see
the chart...
you see the normal right click context menu of any flash swf.  however its 
the chart is just not there. if i sniff the http headers, i see an object 
not found error.  

some of you suggested that i have a virtual directory
under the subdomain, that is the /cfide directory under the 
server root (i tried all the CFIDE directories for that matter)
and that didnt help.  any other ideas?

http://reports.navtrak.net/test_reportLogGraph.cfm is the url.

you can click on the top report, and you will see what i mean.

IF i put this same file under www.navtrak.net, its all good.

HELP :) if you can... thank you.

-- 
tony

Tony Weeg
tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com

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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[James Holmes]

To install this latest release of the framework, can I just extract
over the old one or should I delete everything there first?

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Re: Dir Mapping Question

[Scott Stroz]

Try this:

 wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to be able to use FCKeditor in different apps on one server (win
> 2003/IIS 6). I placed fck in a folder on the server in the following path:
> "c:\inetpub\wwwroot\fckeditor\". Then I created a mapping in CF Admin 7
> called /fckeditor pointing to the dir location. Finally I created an
> virtual directory inside one of my websites called "fckeditor" pointing to
> that same absolute path.
> 
> Trouble is, my app can't find the editor by using this syntax:
> 
>  height="350" toolbarSetName="myWidget" canUpload="" canBrowse=""
> value="#entryVar#" BasePath="/fckeditor/" tabindex="3">
> 
> What am I doing wrong? Do I need all these mappings?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Russ]

Awstats is always worth a look... http://awstats.sourceforge.net/  Can't
beat free... 



-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Stat app recommendation

This is an excellent product for only $80.

http://www.weblogexpert.com/

We had WebTrends, but they changed their license scheme from
server-based, to the number of hits they capture.

This would cost us around $3,500 each year to keep WebTrends.  You have
to buy a license pack in amounts of 5,000,000 hits or more.

WT also sucked up one of our best servers just to keep it runnnig
reasonably fast.

We dropped WT like a rock.

M!ke 



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Re: CF Licensing on VMs?

[Robert Munn]

I don't know how many people are running CF on 32-way systems, but the software 
vendor's dilemma is that a customer COULD tell the VM to run the product (in 
this case CF) on all 32 CPUs, then change the VM to run on only two CPUs when 
the software audit people come to town to check up on their systems. 

Of course, with VMWare, said customer could just as easily migrate the entire 
VM image to a 2 processor server when the audit people come to town, so I don't 
see what actual effect this licensing retriction will have other than to cause 
problems for people trying to properly license their systems. 

I have a feeling we may see a lot more licensing issues like this one generally 
in the software industry as more people run on VMs instead of individual 
physical machines. How does Oracle address CPU licensing on VMs? 

I have to say I am getting fed up myself with all the problems I've had with 
VMs in the last year.



>You may be able to limit the physical processors used by your VMs by setting
>processor affinity appropriately; this may reduce your licensing
>requirements. I believe that this is the case for SQL Server licensing - you
>only have to purchase per-processor licenses for the processors actually
>running SQL Server.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/

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Re: CF7 -> "stealth" CGI environment variables

[Barney Boisvert]

CGI variables are kind of quirky.  Some are available all the time,
but the rest are only defined when they're asked for.  When you ask
for a CGI variable, CF will return it if it knows the answer,
otherwise it will pass the request off to the web server, and return
whatever it says.  Did you try dumping CGI after you'd manually
referenced #cgi.systemroot#?

This can be the source of a lot of errors in the logs, because CF
keeps processing a request until it finished or times out, but web
servers are smart enough to kill of the request if the browser stops
waiting for it.  So if CF requests a CGI from the web server on a
request that has been aborted, an error is logged, and CF proceeds
with the empty string for the value.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/18/05, Figy, Kam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sometimes CFDUMP doesn't show everything.
> 
> On Apache 2.0.52/win, you can output #cgi.systemroot# and get C:\WINDOWS
> (or whatever the system environment var is)
> On IIS 5.1 and 6.0, the variable is defined, but is an empty string
> 
> In no case did the system environment variables show up on a cfdump of
> the cgi scope. Curious. I couldn't find anything in the docs about this.
> 
> I assume it's related to what the web server passes to CF, or else what
> the CF connectors pass on to the server. It just seems odd that cfdump
> wouldn't dump things that are defined.
> 
> /k
> 

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CF7 -> "stealth" CGI environment variables

[Figy, Kam]

Sometimes CFDUMP doesn't show everything.

On Apache 2.0.52/win, you can output #cgi.systemroot# and get C:\WINDOWS
(or whatever the system environment var is)
On IIS 5.1 and 6.0, the variable is defined, but is an empty string

In no case did the system environment variables show up on a cfdump of
the cgi scope. Curious. I couldn't find anything in the docs about this.

I assume it's related to what the web server passes to CF, or else what
the CF connectors pass on to the server. It just seems odd that cfdump
wouldn't dump things that are defined.

/k


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RE: determining darkness/lightness of hex colors

[Matthew Walker]

Try this: http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=322 

You can then consider the "L" portion of the result. If it's 128 or
greater, use dark; if 127 or less, use light. 


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Subject: SOT: determining darkness/lightness of hex colors

Hey gang,

I've done some Googling on this but haven't found anything helpful.

I'm looking for a way to determine, for lack of better terms, the 
darkness/lightness of a particular hex color, so as to determine whether

to use light or dark text above it so that the text doesn't get lost in 
the color beneath.

Any nudges in the right direction (custom tag, algorithm, etc.) would 
simply rock.

Thanks much -
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webservice calling local CFC (one works one doesn't)

[Bryan Stevenson]

Hey All,

OK...I know there is a known bug in CF MX 6.1 about webservices not being able 
to see CF mappingsbut this is happening on CFMX 7 and seems a tad different:

I have a simple test webservice that creates a query and then calls a local CFC 
to convert that query to XML.

here's the code that doesn't work:












  
  



The above code explained:
appcfcs is a CF mapping pointing to D:\wwwroot\cfc
data_manip is the local CFC that is being called and I'm calling the querytoXML 
method

The clipped error I'm getting is:
Element DATA_MANIP is undefined in a Java object of type class 
[Ljava.lang.String;

So it looks like CF is thinking data_manip is a method when it's actually the 
CFC??

here's code that DOES WORK (note I use cfinvoke instead):











 
  
  
  



  
  



So using cfinoke abviously clears things upbut I'd prefer the shorter form 
in the first code example for calling the local CFC

I think my brain is melting and I'm just missing something stupidanybody?? 
;-)

TIA

Cheers


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CFDUMP for PHP

[Andrew Hewitt]

This may be a little OT but for those of you who also code in php and
always wanted a cfdump there is something now available. Check out:
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Transfer file without date change

[Richard Colman]

When a file is transferred from one machine to the other, using a CFFTP
"takefile" operation, it looks like the newly created file is datestamped
anew. 

Anyone know whether it is possible to transfer a file from a remote server,
via cfftp, WITHOUT changing the file date and time. In other words, I need
to go a "takefile" but keep the original datelastmodified.

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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:20 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?
>>
>> S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>> >>>My personal favorite...
>> >>>XXL - XML Xchange Language
>>
>> why not just "fred" or "barney"?

> Actually - how about "Dagwood"?  After those big
> sandwiches that take a
> little bit of everything under the sun and make them, all
> together, a
> sandwich?

> I kinda like that...

Hobo Stew :)

Though I thought those sandwiches were called Hoagies.


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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Isaac,

> The actual download link returns a 404 error.

> Cedric

Okay, this is fixed and the server seems to be better now...

http://www.fusiontap.com/download

Apparently there was another small bug in the framework's link/url
management system, specifically related to the upgrade from CF6 to CF7
(moving to Application.cfc architecture). I've been fixing a few other
similar bugs related to this transition recently, since the public
site was just put on the CF7 server recently and I noticed a couple
issues that only occurred in production mode because they were related
to the way caching is handled for some low-level features like path,
url and process aliases -- which is slightly different with
Application.cfc than it was with Application.cfm.

Recent issues with the server seeming to be pegged at times have also
forced me to make some improvements to the way the function libraries
are loaded... At certain times of the day a request that normally
executes in under 1 second (after starting the app) would time-out
while still executing the cf code and since the server has a max of 60
seconds, I can't increase it beyond that in my code. Seems kind of odd
actually, that I would need to revise the code for this, but it's good
to know the latest versions can handle it more gracefully. Previously
if it timed-out while in the midst of loading the default library set,
it wouldn't try to load them again on the next request, so some
functions needed for a given page (or in some cases any page) would be
missing and cause more errors until I restarted the app. The new
version sets a variable after the default libraries are loaded so that
it ensures all libraries are completely loaded before executing any
additional code for the request. (I had never antiscipated before that
a request could actually take long enough if the server was stressed
to time out while loading the default libraries.)


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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> General Open Architecture Transport Specific Engine

Yeah, I don't think Jim's really going for the "lose your lunch"
effect. :)


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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?
> 
> S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >>>My personal favorite...
> >>>XXL - XML Xchange Language
> 
> why not just "fred" or "barney"?

Actually - how about "Dagwood"?  After those big sandwiches that take a
little bit of everything under the sun and make them, all together, a
sandwich?

I kinda like that...

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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?
> 
> If you want to be really cool:
> XDX - XML Data X-change or for the English majors, XDE - XML Data Exchange
> XTL - XML Transfer Language
> 
> My personal favorite...
> XXL - XML Xchange Language

Or maybe "XXS" (pronounced, of course, "Excess") for "XML eXchange
Specification".

Or - hell - "INXS": "Independent Network eXchange Specification".

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Re: determining darkness/lightness of hex colors

[Charles Polisher]

Anthony Prato wrote:
> do you know the other formula's for working with colors? for whatever
> reason I haven't had the best luck in the past with google.

Here's a good source for that:
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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:27 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?
> 
> I like Adamic... but not because it invloves my name.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamic_language
> 
> Although, I'm not crazy about the religous background.

Ohhh - I really like this one.

But it is a bit touchy on the God side of things.  ;^)

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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Rey Bango]

Ruthless. You sir have hit a new low. LOL.

Rey...

Charlie Griefer wrote:
> General Open Architecture Transport Specific Engine
> 
> 
> On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>>S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>>>
>>My personal favorite...
>>XXL - XML Xchange Language
>>
>>>why not just "fred" or "barney"?
>>
>>I like "Bob" for anything that can't be named... or possibly Edgar.
>>
>>
>>
>>s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
>>new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>>
>>add features without fixtures with
>>the onTap open source framework
>>
>>http://www.fusiontap.com
>>http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Raymond Camden]

How often do you index your data? If you do it daily, you could easily
use a category called "Last7Days", then filter on that category.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying the 
> database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to have 
> to use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need to 
> search for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days, so 
> I'll just use the QofQ to make it work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
> a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
> April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
> Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
> _before_ a day, but, it's an option.
> 
> Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
> works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
> filter out various parts of the results.
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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Russ Michaels]

Wot about

SHOVEIT
STUFFIT
PIGLET
Fat-Packet
Data-WAD
JAFA (Just Another Frickin Acronym)
LOTD (Lots Of Transmogrified Data)


Or something more serious
XDE  (XML Data Exchange)


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Sent: 18 August 2005 21:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

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Jim Davis wrote:

> DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of 
> me is leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how 
> smart is it to put a trademark in the name of something you're
open-sourcing?

Well, seeing as I came up with it first, how about OXL or ODXL? They don't
seem to be taken.

OXL  = Open Transfer Language.
ODXL = Open Data Transfer/Exchange Language.

Both suitably corporate and FOSS friendly.

> I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that 
> means "move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
> "Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"? 
> 
> Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows 
> Passing Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No 
> Assembly Required Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if 
> it takes off, I may someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse 
> my NARDS?")

How about ZAPHOD: Data Transfer Language With No Real Acronym?

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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Paul Hastings]

Calvin Ward wrote:
> Then I vote for 
> 
> PDXF (Purple Dinosaur eXchange Format)... 

i was actually thinking about the flintstones.

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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Dave.Phillips]

Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying the 
database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to have to 
use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need to search 
for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days, so I'll just 
use the QofQ to make it work.

Thanks!

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates


Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
_before_ a day, but, it's an option.

Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
filter out various parts of the results.
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Re: determining darkness/lightness of hex colors

[Anthony Prato]

do you know the other formula's for working with colors? for whatever
reason I haven't had the best luck in the past with google.

On 8/18/05, Charles Polisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a formula that gives the approx. brightness
> for an RGB value: Y=0.299R+0.587G+0.114B
> 
> 
> 
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Raymond Camden]

Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
_before_ a day, but, it's an option.

Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
filter out various parts of the results.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering that.  It's a bit unclear, but that sort of makes sense.  
> However, it's too bad it can't be done with a custom index.  I know I could 
> put a date in the custom1 or custom2 field, but I'm trying to avoid having a 
> QofQ on the client side, just for performance sake.  I was trying to figure 
> out if there is a way to do it with the criteria options in the cfsearch tag, 
> but so far, no luck.  At this stage, I will probably build a QofQ to do it 
> unless someone else comes up with something.
> 
> Thanks Ray,
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
> indexing of files, like Word docs, that have a date property. I don't
> believe you can do this with custom indexes.
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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Calvin Ward]

Then I vote for 

PDXF (Purple Dinosaur eXchange Format)... 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

Because "barney" is already taken.  ;)

On 8/18/05, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >>>My personal favorite...
> >>>XXL - XML Xchange Language
> 
> why not just "fred" or "barney"?
> 

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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Barney Boisvert]

Because "barney" is already taken.  ;)

On 8/18/05, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> >>>My personal favorite...
> >>>XXL - XML Xchange Language
> 
> why not just "fred" or "barney"?
> 

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Re: determining darkness/lightness of hex colors

[Charles Polisher]

Here's a formula that gives the approx. brightness
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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Charlie Griefer]

General Open Architecture Transport Specific Engine


On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> My personal favorite...
> XXL - XML Xchange Language
> 
> > why not just "fred" or "barney"?
> 
> I like "Bob" for anything that can't be named... or possibly Edgar.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Dave.Phillips]

I was wondering that.  It's a bit unclear, but that sort of makes sense.  
However, it's too bad it can't be done with a custom index.  I know I could put 
a date in the custom1 or custom2 field, but I'm trying to avoid having a QofQ 
on the client side, just for performance sake.  I was trying to figure out if 
there is a way to do it with the criteria options in the cfsearch tag, but so 
far, no luck.  At this stage, I will probably build a QofQ to do it unless 
someone else comes up with something.

Thanks Ray,

Dave

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Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates


After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
indexing of files, like Word docs, that have a date property. I don't
believe you can do this with custom indexes.

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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Raymond Camden]

After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
indexing of files, like Word docs, that have a date property. I don't
believe you can do this with custom indexes.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search 
> expressions':
> 
> "if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents 
> dated prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 
> in your search."
> 
> Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
> to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,date"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE 
> >= 01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' 
> greater than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.
> 
> Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a 
> column in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this 
> with the actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,DateField"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection 
> by a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
My personal favorite...
XXL - XML Xchange Language

> why not just "fred" or "barney"?

I like "Bob" for anything that can't be named... or possibly Edgar.



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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Phillip Beazley]

At 05:00 PM 8/18/2005, you wrote:

>Courier ... or possibly X-Courier...
>
>DataWinch
>
>DataSieve
>
>Windlass
>
>Puny X-Press
>
>PieHole :)

LOL!

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Re: UDF local variables?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Is there an easy way to access all of the local variables
> in a UDF, e.g.
> "this" or something?

Only one way I know:

function x() {
var local = structnew();
local.x = 0;
local.y = 1;
}



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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Paul Hastings]

S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>>>My personal favorite...
>>>XXL - XML Xchange Language

why not just "fred" or "barney"?

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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Raymond Camden]

I'm not sure why it isn't working, but you could use QueryOfQuery to
rename the column back to Date.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search 
> expressions':
> 
> "if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents 
> dated prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 
> in your search."
> 
> Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
> to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,date"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE 
> >= 01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' 
> greater than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.
> 
> Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a 
> column in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this 
> with the actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,DateField"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection 
> by a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
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Re: UDF local variables?

[Raymond Camden]

No. However, if you need to introspect local variables, simply use a scope:


function doTheCasBah() {
  var local = structNew();
  local.x = 1;
  local.y = 2;

At this point, if you wanted to know all local variables, you could
simply structKeyList local. You just need to be anal about ensuring
you always use the local structure for your variables. Don't forget
that some tags out there will write out their own variables, like
cfquery, cfhttp, etc. Luckily, CFMX7 allows you to specify a variable
name for their results.


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> "this" or something?
> 
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Re: UDF local variables?

[Barney Boisvert]

Nope, those variables don't exist in any kind of container.  At least
not a CFML-exposed one.  And be aware that arguments are DUPLICATED
into the local variables scope, and still exist in the 'arguments'
scope, as separate variables.

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> 
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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word...
> something that means
> "move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony
> or humor.
> "Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"?

Courier ... or possibly X-Courier...

DataWinch

DataSieve

Windlass

Puny X-Press

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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> At 04:21 PM 8/18/2005, you wrote:

>>My personal favorite...
>>XXL - XML Xchange Language

> Or for really big packets, XXXL - XML Xfer and Xchange
> Language.

And pohibited in many states of course... :)

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UDF local variables?

[Damien McKenna]

Is there an easy way to access all of the local variables in a UDF, e.g.
"this" or something?
 
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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Dawson, Michael]

This is an excellent product for only $80.

http://www.weblogexpert.com/

We had WebTrends, but they changed their license scheme from
server-based, to the number of hits they capture.

This would cost us around $3,500 each year to keep WebTrends.  You have
to buy a license pack in amounts of 5,000,000 hits or more.

WT also sucked up one of our best servers just to keep it runnnig
reasonably fast.

We dropped WT like a rock.

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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Keith Gaughan]

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Jim Davis wrote:

> DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of me is
> leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how smart is it to
> put a trademark in the name of something you're open-sourcing?

Well, seeing as I came up with it first, how about OXL or ODXL? They
don't seem to be taken.

OXL  = Open Transfer Language.
ODXL = Open Data Transfer/Exchange Language.

Both suitably corporate and FOSS friendly.

> I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that means
> "move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
> "Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"? 
> 
> Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows Passing
> Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No Assembly Required
> Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if it takes off, I may
> someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse my NARDS?")

How about ZAPHOD: Data Transfer Language With No Real Acronym?

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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Mark A Kruger]

Ditto on that even the 50 site license version isn't to pricey (300$ I
think).

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stat app recommendation


I'll second this one. I'm running SmarterMail and SmarterStats and while
the versions I'm running aren't free, I love both apps. I do have the
latest versions of both.

www.smartertools.com

--Ferg


Jim Davis wrote:

>Smarter Tools "SmarterStats" is pretty good - and is free for one address
>(or at least it was).
>
>My only real complaints (which may have been addressed in the most recent
>version) is that its browser typing is weak (it still lumps FireFox into
>"mozilla" along with a dozen others) and there's no capability to export
>reports to formats other than HTML.
>
>But it's pretty damn good for all that.  And definitely the right price.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
>



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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Russ Michaels]

We also use smarterstats, and it meets most clients requirements. We even
give a 50 domain copy of it away with all dedicated servers.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2005 21:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stat app recommendation

I'll second this one. I'm running SmarterMail and SmarterStats and while the
versions I'm running aren't free, I love both apps. I do have the latest
versions of both.

www.smartertools.com

--Ferg


Jim Davis wrote:

>Smarter Tools "SmarterStats" is pretty good - and is free for one 
>address (or at least it was).
>
>My only real complaints (which may have been addressed in the most 
>recent
>version) is that its browser typing is weak (it still lumps FireFox 
>into "mozilla" along with a dozen others) and there's no capability to 
>export reports to formats other than HTML.
>
>But it's pretty damn good for all that.  And definitely the right price.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: Stat app recommendation

[Ken Ferguson]

I'll second this one. I'm running SmarterMail and SmarterStats and while 
the versions I'm running aren't free, I love both apps. I do have the 
latest versions of both.

www.smartertools.com

--Ferg


Jim Davis wrote:

>Smarter Tools "SmarterStats" is pretty good - and is free for one address
>(or at least it was).
>
>My only real complaints (which may have been addressed in the most recent
>version) is that its browser typing is weak (it still lumps FireFox into
>"mozilla" along with a dozen others) and there's no capability to export
>reports to formats other than HTML.
>
>But it's pretty damn good for all that.  And definitely the right price.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Adrocknaphobia]

I like Adamic... but not because it invloves my name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamic_language

Although, I'm not crazy about the religous background.

-Adam

On 8/18/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here are the names we've come up with so far (with my personal comments):
> 
> DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of me is
> leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how smart is it to
> put a trademark in the name of something you're open-sourcing?
> 
> DEML: [dimmel] "Data Expression (or exchange) ML" - I like the fact that it
> can pronounced... for some reason I think that's important.
> 
> XDL: "XML Data Language" is taken.  "eXpression Definition Language"
> 
> XDF: "XML Data Format" is taken.  "eXtensible Data Format" which describes
> scientific data.
> 
> XIL: "XML Information Language" - Pronounceable - I like that!  But
> pronounced it's "zill" - that just sounds slurred.  It's also taken by the
> "XML Import Language" (which is kinda neat actually).
> 
> XIF: "XML Information Format" - Pronounceable as well - and it sounds better
> said that "zill".  Nice and peppy: "Ziff!"  Of course the main problem is
> that is ALSO taken!  "XML Interchange Format" (made by MS).
> 
> XIEF: "XML Information Exchange Format" - I like the sound ("Zife!")... but
> it's harder to say as letters ("ex eye ee eff").  Not a big deal but I'm
> picky.
> 
> Rosetta: Doesn't stand for nothing.  I still kinda like this.  Easy to
> remember, indicative and organic.  However not very original: they're
> probably 100 other things called "Rosetta".
> 
> I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that means
> "move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
> "Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"?
> 
> Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows Passing
> Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No Assembly Required
> Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if it takes off, I may
> someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse my NARDS?")
> 
> Damn... I should spend as much time code as I do on picking what to call
> things...
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Phillip Beazley]

At 04:21 PM 8/18/2005, you wrote:

>My personal favorite...
>XXL - XML Xchange Language

Or for really big packets, XXXL - XML Xfer and Xchange Language.


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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Kevin Aebig]

If you want to be really cool: 
XDX - XML Data X-change or for the English majors, XDE - XML Data Exchange 
XTL - XML Transfer Language

My personal favorite... 
XXL - XML Xchange Language

Cheers,

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

Here are the names we've come up with so far (with my personal comments):

DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of me is
leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how smart is it to
put a trademark in the name of something you're open-sourcing?

DEML: [dimmel] "Data Expression (or exchange) ML" - I like the fact that it
can pronounced... for some reason I think that's important.

XDL: "XML Data Language" is taken.  "eXpression Definition Language"

XDF: "XML Data Format" is taken.  "eXtensible Data Format" which describes
scientific data.

XIL: "XML Information Language" - Pronounceable - I like that!  But
pronounced it's "zill" - that just sounds slurred.  It's also taken by the
"XML Import Language" (which is kinda neat actually).

XIF: "XML Information Format" - Pronounceable as well - and it sounds better
said that "zill".  Nice and peppy: "Ziff!"  Of course the main problem is
that is ALSO taken!  "XML Interchange Format" (made by MS).

XIEF: "XML Information Exchange Format" - I like the sound ("Zife!")... but
it's harder to say as letters ("ex eye ee eff").  Not a big deal but I'm
picky.

Rosetta: Doesn't stand for nothing.  I still kinda like this.  Easy to
remember, indicative and organic.  However not very original: they're
probably 100 other things called "Rosetta".

I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that means
"move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
"Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"? 

Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows Passing
Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No Assembly Required
Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if it takes off, I may
someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse my NARDS?")

Damn... I should spend as much time code as I do on picking what to call
things...

Jim Davis







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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Jim Davis]

Smarter Tools "SmarterStats" is pretty good - and is free for one address
(or at least it was).

My only real complaints (which may have been addressed in the most recent
version) is that its browser typing is weak (it still lumps FireFox into
"mozilla" along with a dozen others) and there's no capability to export
reports to formats other than HTML.

But it's pretty damn good for all that.  And definitely the right price.

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Re: Stat app recommendation

[Adrocknaphobia]

WebTrends Live

-Adam

On 8/18/05, Joshua Cyr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you need fun realtime info try visitorville.  www.visitorville.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Stat app recommendation
> 
> What's your budget like?  We use Urchin here and love it, but it isn't
> cheap.  We've used WebTrends in the past with success, too.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Kahn wrote:
> > Standard page views, referer, visitors, etc.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Charlie Griefer]

MILF

Multiple Information Language Format

yeah, means nothing and has little to nothing to do with your WDDX
replacement...but would get recognition because of the acronym, I
reckon :)

DataSphincter's gonna be hard to beat tho.

On 8/18/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here are the names we've come up with so far (with my personal comments):
> 
> DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of me is
> leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how smart is it to
> put a trademark in the name of something you're open-sourcing?
> 
> DEML: [dimmel] "Data Expression (or exchange) ML" - I like the fact that it
> can pronounced... for some reason I think that's important.
> 
> XDL: "XML Data Language" is taken.  "eXpression Definition Language"
> 
> XDF: "XML Data Format" is taken.  "eXtensible Data Format" which describes
> scientific data.
> 
> XIL: "XML Information Language" - Pronounceable - I like that!  But
> pronounced it's "zill" - that just sounds slurred.  It's also taken by the
> "XML Import Language" (which is kinda neat actually).
> 
> XIF: "XML Information Format" - Pronounceable as well - and it sounds better
> said that "zill".  Nice and peppy: "Ziff!"  Of course the main problem is
> that is ALSO taken!  "XML Interchange Format" (made by MS).
> 
> XIEF: "XML Information Exchange Format" - I like the sound ("Zife!")... but
> it's harder to say as letters ("ex eye ee eff").  Not a big deal but I'm
> picky.
> 
> Rosetta: Doesn't stand for nothing.  I still kinda like this.  Easy to
> remember, indicative and organic.  However not very original: they're
> probably 100 other things called "Rosetta".
> 
> I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that means
> "move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
> "Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"?
> 
> Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows Passing
> Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No Assembly Required
> Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if it takes off, I may
> someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse my NARDS?")
> 
> Damn... I should spend as much time code as I do on picking what to call
> things...
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt - Name?

[Jim Davis]

Here are the names we've come up with so far (with my personal comments):

DPXL: ("Depressed Press Transfer Language") - the professional side of me is
leaning here.  It puts my company right in the name!  But how smart is it to
put a trademark in the name of something you're open-sourcing?

DEML: [dimmel] "Data Expression (or exchange) ML" - I like the fact that it
can pronounced... for some reason I think that's important.

XDL: "XML Data Language" is taken.  "eXpression Definition Language"

XDF: "XML Data Format" is taken.  "eXtensible Data Format" which describes
scientific data.

XIL: "XML Information Language" - Pronounceable - I like that!  But
pronounced it's "zill" - that just sounds slurred.  It's also taken by the
"XML Import Language" (which is kinda neat actually).

XIF: "XML Information Format" - Pronounceable as well - and it sounds better
said that "zill".  Nice and peppy: "Ziff!"  Of course the main problem is
that is ALSO taken!  "XML Interchange Format" (made by MS).

XIEF: "XML Information Exchange Format" - I like the sound ("Zife!")... but
it's harder to say as letters ("ex eye ee eff").  Not a big deal but I'm
picky.

Rosetta: Doesn't stand for nothing.  I still kinda like this.  Easy to
remember, indicative and organic.  However not very original: they're
probably 100 other things called "Rosetta".

I'm really leaning towards a non-abbreviated word... something that means
"move" or "transfer" but maybe even with a sense of irony or humor.
"Wormhole" perhaps?"DataSphincter"? 

Or perhaps a fun abbreviation? "STAPOD" (Specification That Allows Passing
Of Data)?  "MOPD" (Method of Passing Data)? "NARDS" (No Assembly Required
Data Specification)?  (This has the benefit that, if it takes off, I may
someday hear somebody say "Were you able to parse my NARDS?")

Damn... I should spend as much time code as I do on picking what to call
things...

Jim Davis





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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Joshua Cyr]

If you need fun realtime info try visitorville.  www.visitorville.com 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stat app recommendation

What's your budget like?  We use Urchin here and love it, but it isn't
cheap.  We've used WebTrends in the past with success, too.



Steve Kahn wrote:
> Standard page views, referer, visitors, etc. 
> 
> 



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OT: TCPView

[Phill B]

Any one use this before? I have some questions about what I'm seeing
when I use it.
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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Kevin Aebig]

Urchin is pretty solid. We've used a few others like DeepMetrix, but I
prefer server solutions instead of integrating custom JS scripts...

Cheers,

Kevin

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Sent: August 18, 2005 1:56 PM
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What's your budget like?  We use Urchin here and love it, but it isn't 
cheap.  We've used WebTrends in the past with success, too.



Steve Kahn wrote:
> Standard page views, referer, visitors, etc. 
> 
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Re: Stat app recommendation

[Ray Champagne]

What's your budget like?  We use Urchin here and love it, but it isn't 
cheap.  We've used WebTrends in the past with success, too.



Steve Kahn wrote:
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Re: Stat app recommendation

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Standard page views, referer, visitors, etc. 

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RE: Stat app recommendation

[Kevin Aebig]

What kind of stats?

Kevin

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cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

[Dave.Phillips]

Hi,

I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search expressions':

"if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents dated 
prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 in your 
search." 

Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?



Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE >= 
01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' greater 
than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.

Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a column 
in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this with the 
actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:



So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
still doesn't work.

So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection by 
a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Dave
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Stat app recommendation

[Steve Kahn]

Need to buy a stat app any recommendations?

Thanks

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RE: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[S . Isaac Dealey]

>> -Original Message-
>> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:31 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released
>>
>> I'm still having intermittend problems reaching the site
>> too... it
>> seems to be up and down today.

> Of course it is - you made an announcement!  Once this is
> fixed it'll work
> great, no problems at all, until your NEXT announcement!

> Boy Isaac - this reveals a marked lack of understanding
> here: I thought you
> knew computers!

> Jim Davis

Doh! You're right... The Law of Software Announcement Synchronicity
states that the probability of technical failure approaches 1 when any
new release or upgrade is announced. :)



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Re: CF Licensing on VMs?

[Adam Haskell]

Man dude your company sound simular to mine (group structure wise
atleast) but thankfully CF is growing here rather than dieing. We're
actually going to start the long (and potentially stupid ) process of
training other groups to program in CF so they can deploy thier own
apps instead of realying on us (who's real purpose is Store Systems
Intranet Support). But we got all those groups and then some, even
some of the same names.

The developmenty Methodologies group is my most favorite group thier
whole perpose is to come it with better development methodologies then
train on them then come up with better ones after that. :)

Adam H 


On 8/17/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:10 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF Licensing on VMs?
> >
> > Who reports all of this to "The Bobs"?
> 
> Actually our CEO's name is "Bob"... but that's not really what you're
> saying, is it.  ;^)
> 
> In our case (like most large places I've seen) internal groups are formed to
> manage an area or taskset.  They're internally budgeted as "providers" with
> other groups being "customers" - as if the whole company was free market -
> although without the pesky distraction of competition.
> 
> Any particular group's goals are thus several-fold:
> 
> +) Ensure that nothing useful can be done without your group thus ensuring
> your groups existence and budget.
> 
> +) Ensure that what you're group is actually responsible for is so nebulous
> that you can send any requests for new work to other groups while still
> claiming credit for any work that was actually completed regardless of who
> completed it.
> 
> +) Ensure that actually getting something done is so painfully difficult for
> the customer that they'll stop bothering you.  This includes designing
> "pre-engagement questionnaires" and "consolidated commitment requests".
> 
> +) Ensure that it's clear, when customers do bother you, that getting
> anything done is so painful because other groups are being so damn
> difficult, bureaucratic and insular.
> 
> Welcome to the world of a Fortune 50.  ;^)
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Matt Robertson's FedEx Monger

[Ray Champagne]

OK.  Thanks for the info.  I'll contact you off-list if the client 
decides they want to go this route.

Ray

Matt Robertson wrote:
> On 8/18/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
>>Matt, you have any comments?
> 
> 
>  Yeah, I basically have been so busy over the last several months that I 
> have had zero time to keep up with that tag and the UPS one. You could 
> probably update it yourself without too much trouble. It'd be a starting 
> point, at least. I may have something on hand that is more advanced than the 
> public download. Let me know if you're interested.
>  The problem is these guys keep changing their shipping methods. UPS did it 
> enough last year that the UPS tag required major revisions. Or at least 
> major enough that I only had time to get it about half done before I decided 
> I needed to get the bills paid and stuck to work that pays.
>  If I were to guess I would say that Fedex is going to be as lot easier to 
> update. They tend to be simpler in their methodology but more difficult in 
> how they present their 'importable' data.
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RE: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released
> 
> I'm still having intermittend problems reaching the site too... it
> seems to be up and down today.

Of course it is - you made an announcement!  Once this is fixed it'll work
great, no problems at all, until your NEXT announcement!

Boy Isaac - this reveals a marked lack of understanding here: I thought you
knew computers!

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Re: Matt Robertson's FedEx Monger

[Matt Robertson]

On 8/18/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Matt, you have any comments?

 Yeah, I basically have been so busy over the last several months that I 
have had zero time to keep up with that tag and the UPS one. You could 
probably update it yourself without too much trouble. It'd be a starting 
point, at least. I may have something on hand that is more advanced than the 
public download. Let me know if you're interested.
 The problem is these guys keep changing their shipping methods. UPS did it 
enough last year that the UPS tag required major revisions. Or at least 
major enough that I only had time to get it about half done before I decided 
I needed to get the bills paid and stuck to work that pays.
 If I were to guess I would say that Fedex is going to be as lot easier to 
update. They tend to be simpler in their methodology but more difficult in 
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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Yves Arsenault]

Cool...

I was interested in checking it out also...

Yves

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> > Isaac,
> 
> > The actual download link returns a 404 error.
> 
> > Cedric
> 
> Doh!
> 
> Thanks Cedric... I'll fix that as soon as I'm able... you're right,
> the public site is showing:
> 
> http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/index/forum/projects/blogsontap.zip
> 
> (How'd that get there?)
> 
> should be
> 
> http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/projects/blogsontap.zip
> 
> Don't forget to download the latest core + members plugin ... iirc
> plugin manager hasn't changed recently...
> 
> I'm still having intermittend problems reaching the site too... it
> seems to be up and down today.
> 
> 
> s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
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> 
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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Isaac,

> The actual download link returns a 404 error.

> Cedric

Doh!

Thanks Cedric... I'll fix that as soon as I'm able... you're right,
the public site is showing:

http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/index/forum/projects/blogsontap.zip

(How'd that get there?)

should be

http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/projects/blogsontap.zip

Don't forget to download the latest core + members plugin ... iirc
plugin manager hasn't changed recently...

I'm still having intermittend problems reaching the site too... it
seems to be up and down today.


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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt (was RE: Ajax and CFCs)

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt (was RE: Ajax and CFCs)
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> Jim Davis wrote:
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> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>Not quite true. The data typing in JSON is implicit. Of the types listed
> >>below it can unambiguously represent object, array, null, string,
> >>string, boolean, and number. It's all implicit in the syntax. Dynamic
> >
> > That's true I guess.  But there IS more: JSON also can't represent
> > non-numeric keyed arrays (something called "JavaScript Hashtables") for
> > example.
> 
> Ah, but isn't that what an object in JS(ON) essentially is?
> 
> {
> "I am": "a string-keyed",
> "array or": "a hashtable",
> "if":   "you will."
> }

Not really.  Sorta/kinda.

JavaScript IS WEIRD - just so we have that straight before we start.
There's definitely a method to its madness, but it IS weird.  ;^)

You can do this:

myOb = new Object();
myOb.myProp = "value";

AND 

myAr = new Array();
myAr[myProp] = "value";

However, as alike as they look, doing a "typeof" for both will still return
"object" and "array".

This is a subtlety to be sure - but one which JSON can't distinguish
between.  That last array can't really be done as an array in JSON (the
commonly available JSON parser actually just ignores the values completely).

This is strange, but understandable.  In the second case you're adding
properties to an (array) object - perfectly legal.  But it is strange (it's
also pretty common in use).

> > The main problem here is that it's impossible to describe such a
> language an
> > XSD (unless you allow "any tag" - which includes xHTML, made up tags,
> etc -
> > in any place).  XSD only allows a tag to contain ordered tags or any
> tags
> > (so the former would force us to say that  must appear before
> >  which must appear before  and so forth - which makes the
> > serialization an order of magnitude more complex).
> 
> Hmmm... I heard XSD was a bit odd, but I didn't think it was *that* bad.
> Holy crap! I think I'll stick with DTDs then.

Yeah... I probably should have.  For me I'm damned if I do, damned if I
don't with XD.

XSD also can't validate based on attribute values - which means it can't 
validate much of this at all.

But still... it does work.
 
> >>I'd like to point out that here the  tag is essentially defining a
> >>new type, so you could change this to:
> >
> > I could... but in keeping with the theme, if I did do it would probably
> be a
> > "" (data type) tag.  ;^)
> 
> Fairy nuff. :-)

I was thinking about this more...

The only real problem I see is that I would have to make the "type"
attribute accept any value (in the XSD at least) - there could be no
validation on type.

I'm not sure how I feel about that... I guess needing to make it optional to
support the  as it was is just as "bad", uh?

I'm (like in so many things) back and forth on it.

> > My thinking would be that the type would only apply as a "mask" to the
> > linked elements.  So, if a child tags type was defined it would apply
> it, if
> > not it wouldn't.  If it defined an "object" but no properties then that
> > object could have any properties.
> 
> You could do that alright. I was just thinking of a situation where you
> might have something like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Where the value might be an object or an array of objects.

I would think either we use just plain "" or put nothing at all.

The latter would indicate that although a value could be there - we've got
no attributes to apply to it.  User's choice.

A clearer example might do this:














In this case we really need a place holder of some kind to ensure that the
"string" type will be applied to correct field.

But I still thing an empty  is best here - since the underlying idea of
this is that attributes of the new type will replace the corresponding
attributes of the linked thing showing this with no attributes will cause no
substitutions.

A key of this is that the custom types aren't enforcing strict adherence (or
at least I don't think they should).  Any attributes not defined are left to
the user to fill in as they like.

Sound good?

> > This is one reason that I'm NOT super comfortable with the "type"
> concept...
> > it seems to imply a "full" definition when it could only part of one.
> 
> Nah, types can be just partial definitions of what's going on too.

Yeah - at this level it's all semantics anyways.  I just tend to get hung up
on labels (I'm a usability person by training).  ;^)

Jim Davis

Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Cedric Villat]

Isaac,

The actual download link returns a 404 error.

Cedric

>Hi all,
>
>After slightly more than a week of work I've published the first
>release of Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta and would be grateful for any feedback
>anyone would like to offer. I would like to get some comparison with
>the other free blog applications available for CF recently, although I
>haven't had time to install any of them yet myself.
>
>More information: http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/index/forum/?netaction
>=messages/linear&forumthreadid=thr_20050817050021_FBxUvE4ztyZK2QEn
>
>Download: http://www.fusiontap.com/download
>
>Requirements: Latest versions of onTap framework and Members onTap
>plugin plus Plugin Manager
>
>Features:
>
>- Multiple multi-user blogs
>- WYSIWYG interface for editing
>   articles and comments
>- Easy skinning (browser-driven
>   interface uses XSL transformations
>   and framework XHTML tools)
>- Internationalized with
>   easy translation of articles
>- Categories customizable by language/locale
>- Search interface
>- RSS 2.0 syndication
>- Article and comment author images
>- Content caching for improved performance
>- Browser-driven access rules
>   allow fine control of users'
>   ability to access each blog
>   - read, publish, comment,
>   moderate and admin
>
>
>s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
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>
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RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[Russ Michaels]

Well that is exactly where I think a trigger come sin handy, because your
then not relying on that third party script to update the table or call the
required SP to do it. It will be done automatically.
For me it's like using a framework. You can get a developer to write a
module without having to worry about how the rest of the application works.

--
snake 

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2005 18:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

Russ,

And if someone accesses the data in a new way? Using PHP or .net for
example? What if someone creates a stored proc?  Many of our applications
work with data that is "shared" in some way among applications.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records


Well I always put comments in the CFM pages stating that triggers will be
called as a result of the query.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 16:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

I agree that triggers are A little bit more obscure than other methods of
handling DB tasks. I think there IS a place for them. The afore mentioned
cascading  deactivation seemed to me to be a good example. I always think
about 2 things when doing a trigger.

 1) Make sure you document them. Triggers make it a little more difficult to
pass your DB schema and design onto the next developer when you stop working
with the site. They so rarely make it into the data dictionary or
documentation.

2) Make sure you have thought of "additional cases" where they might fire
that you had not expected. The case of directly changing data is one of
them. Should you ever edit data directly? In most cases you should not. Is
it ever required?  Yes - sometimes it is required - so that is a case you
"should" plan for, even if you have an overwhelmingly draconian policy on
the matter you should plan for the case when the next guy is working with
your code.

In fact, as a general rule, your code and your applicaitons will definitely
be seen and altered by other people down stream.  You should count on it and
try to make it easy on them.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records


Not at all. I'm saying that you can use an SP to accomplish the same goals
and it also secures your data and ensures the integrity you need.

It is a different approach, but it is a viable and often used approach.

Security is what should prevent data being changed without going through the
stored procedure. That security is set on the database itself. ColdFusion
has nothing to do with this discussion.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

Then you may as well just say don't even write stored procedures either, do
it all via CFQUERY. Or don't build in any relationships, let CF handle that
as well.
Having a trigger that detects an update and then executes the stored
procedure would cover you against unforseen circumstances where the data
might change without going through the SP.

--
snake


-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 15:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

You can secure access to the database, limiting all updates, for example, to
that SP.

That should still accomplish the same goal.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

But an SP still has to be triggered by something.  And that is really what
he is saying, because my example cannot be accomplished just by a SP, unless
you implicitly execute that SP every time. Which means your  still relying
on the ColdFusion code to do so.
If someone edits a record directly on the database, then how would that SP
get executed.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 15:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

That's not what he's saying.

What he's saying is that an SP can accomplish the same goal.

The difference is that the SP encapsulates the update and 'triggered'
functionality and therefore would receive the updates instead of the table
itself.

Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

Neil,

You are totally avoiding answering the question.

You have stated that an SP can do everyth

RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[Mark A Kruger]

Russ,

And if someone accesses the data in a new way? Using PHP or .net for
example? What if someone creates a stored proc?  Many of our applications
work with data that is "shared" in some way among applications.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records


Well I always put comments in the CFM pages stating that triggers will be
called as a result of the query.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 16:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

I agree that triggers are A little bit more obscure than other methods of
handling DB tasks. I think there IS a place for them. The afore mentioned
cascading  deactivation seemed to me to be a good example. I always think
about 2 things when doing a trigger.

 1) Make sure you document them. Triggers make it a little more difficult to
pass your DB schema and design onto the next developer when you stop working
with the site. They so rarely make it into the data dictionary or
documentation.

2) Make sure you have thought of "additional cases" where they might fire
that you had not expected. The case of directly changing data is one of
them. Should you ever edit data directly? In most cases you should not. Is
it ever required?  Yes - sometimes it is required - so that is a case you
"should" plan for, even if you have an overwhelmingly draconian policy on
the matter you should plan for the case when the next guy is working with
your code.

In fact, as a general rule, your code and your applicaitons will definitely
be seen and altered by other people down stream.  You should count on it and
try to make it easy on them.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records


Not at all. I'm saying that you can use an SP to accomplish the same goals
and it also secures your data and ensures the integrity you need.

It is a different approach, but it is a viable and often used approach.

Security is what should prevent data being changed without going through the
stored procedure. That security is set on the database itself. ColdFusion
has nothing to do with this discussion.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

Then you may as well just say don't even write stored procedures either, do
it all via CFQUERY. Or don't build in any relationships, let CF handle that
as well.
Having a trigger that detects an update and then executes the stored
procedure would cover you against unforseen circumstances where the data
might change without going through the SP.

--
snake


-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 15:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

You can secure access to the database, limiting all updates, for example, to
that SP.

That should still accomplish the same goal.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

But an SP still has to be triggered by something.  And that is really what
he is saying, because my example cannot be accomplished just by a SP, unless
you implicitly execute that SP every time. Which means your  still relying
on the ColdFusion code to do so.
If someone edits a record directly on the database, then how would that SP
get executed.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 15:07
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

That's not what he's saying.

What he's saying is that an SP can accomplish the same goal.

The difference is that the SP encapsulates the update and 'triggered'
functionality and therefore would receive the updates instead of the table
itself.

Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

Neil,

You are totally avoiding answering the question.

You have stated that an SP can do everything a trigger can do, and you have
stated that an SP can automatically be execute when a certain event occurs
just like a trigger.

So for the 3rd time, please show me how.

russ

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2005 14:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

What you are stating and what the process is are two different
beasts.your trigger is simply a lazy way to monitor a process which you
are not doubt firing as part of 

RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[Russ Michaels]

That depends how you do your comments. :-)
 

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2005 17:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

> Well I always put comments in the CFM pages stating that triggers will 
> be called as a result of the query.

> Russ

Sounds like that could cause a comment-maintenance issue... i.e.
create trigger, search app for references to applied table... same when you
drop the trigger...


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Re: OT applet Image Viewer suggestions

[Greg Johnson]

Either as long as it works in all/most browser, specificaly IE, 
FireFox(DeerPark), Mozilla, Netscape, Opera and Safari on Macs

Kevin Aebig wrote:

>Flash or Java?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kevin
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: August 18, 2005 10:52 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: OT applet Image Viewer suggestions
>
>I know this isn't Cold Fusion related, but this list is the best 
>information resource around.
>
>I need a image viewer for a webpage.  It has to look comertial.  Click 
>to zoom in/out with magnifying glass cursor if possible, click drag to 
>pan around.  Just has to display 1 picutre intialy scaled to the size of 
>the applet.  Will be used in a popup.
>
>Thanks, and in the words of Puck, ...Gentles, do not reprehend.  If you 
>pardon, we will mend...Give me your hands, if we be friends, And Robin 
>shall restore amends.
>
>  
>

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RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Of course. :) I do personally believe there are cases in which
triggers are useful, was just reminded of what I'd seen in this vein
of "additional cases".

> Thus why we have development and testing servers :-)

> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 August 2005 17:33
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

>> 2) Make sure you have thought of "additional cases" where
>> they might
>> fire that you had not expected.

> I've seen on a few occasions a novice trigger-writer will
> create an update
> trigger that produces an error if more than one record is
> updated at once
> because they didn't antiscipate multi-record updates... It
> seems to be a
> reasonably common mistake. I know I made it once upon a
> time. :)


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RE: OT applet Image Viewer suggestions

[Kevin Aebig]

Flash or Java?

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Greg Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: August 18, 2005 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT applet Image Viewer suggestions

I know this isn't Cold Fusion related, but this list is the best 
information resource around.

I need a image viewer for a webpage.  It has to look comertial.  Click 
to zoom in/out with magnifying glass cursor if possible, click drag to 
pan around.  Just has to display 1 picutre intialy scaled to the size of 
the applet.  Will be used in a popup.

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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[S . Isaac Dealey]

Give it a bit and try again... I was getting DNS errors in IE this
morning in spite of being able to ping/tracert to it pretty quickly...
I was hoping transient network issues... could be a problem with the
server, I don't know... the framework site is actually hosted for
free, so I don't have a lot of leverage to complain about it. :) But
the site is up and reasonably responsive most of the time.

> I don't think your server is responding.

> On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After slightly more than a week of work I've published
>> the first
>> release of Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta and would be grateful for
>> any feedback
>> anyone would like to offer. I would like to get some
>> comparison with
>> the other free blog applications available for CF
>> recently, although I
>> haven't had time to install any of them yet myself.

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Re: CFEclipse 1.2 - How do you wrap text?

[Barney Boisvert]

>From talking to Spike a while back, this is a feature that Eclipse
(not CFEclipse) doesn't support, and building it into CFEclipse would
basically mean rewriting a large chunk of the Eclipse-provided editor
controls.  So a lot of work for a pretty small benefit.  Not that it
won't get done, of course, just that there are better uses of
developer time at the moment.

Take that with a grain of salt of course, it's coming third-party, and
at least 4-5 months from the past.  ;)

cheers,
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> We're told that feature is not yet available and on the list of future 
> upgrades.
> 
> 
> On 8/17/05, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For CFEclipse 1.2 - How do you wrap text?
> >
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OT applet Image Viewer suggestions

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I know this isn't Cold Fusion related, but this list is the best 
information resource around.

I need a image viewer for a webpage.  It has to look comertial.  Click 
to zoom in/out with magnifying glass cursor if possible, click drag to 
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RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[Russ Michaels]

Thus why we have development and testing servers :-) 

-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2005 17:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

> 2) Make sure you have thought of "additional cases" where they might 
> fire that you had not expected.

I've seen on a few occasions a novice trigger-writer will create an update
trigger that produces an error if more than one record is updated at once
because they didn't antiscipate multi-record updates... It seems to be a
reasonably common mistake. I know I made it once upon a time. :)


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RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Well I always put comments in the CFM pages stating that
> triggers will be
> called as a result of the query.

> Russ

Sounds like that could cause a comment-maintenance issue... i.e.
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Re: WDDX Replacement Attempt (was RE: Ajax and CFCs)

[Keith Gaughan]

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Jim Davis wrote:

>>-Original Message-
>>From: Keith Gaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Not quite true. The data typing in JSON is implicit. Of the types listed
>>below it can unambiguously represent object, array, null, string,
>>string, boolean, and number. It's all implicit in the syntax. Dynamic
>
> That's true I guess.  But there IS more: JSON also can't represent
> non-numeric keyed arrays (something called "JavaScript Hashtables") for
> example.

Ah, but isn't that what an object in JS(ON) essentially is?

{
"I am": "a string-keyed",
"array or": "a hashtable",
"if":   "you will."
}

>> I'd include some kind of explicit recordset type too.
> 
> I consider that for a long... long time... but decided against it.  Any
> representation of a recordset I've ever seen is either column-based (which
> is an object whose properties are arrays) or record-based (which is an array
> of objects).
> 
> Both of these representations can be done using Arrays and Objects so why is
> it really needed?  Either we create a custom "RecordSet" object in JS or we
> convert it to the native data types... but since the latter is just as easy
> as the first for JS why bother?

True, but I was thinking that it might be nice to annote it as such.

> The main problem here is that it's impossible to describe such a language an
> XSD (unless you allow "any tag" - which includes xHTML, made up tags, etc -
> in any place).  XSD only allows a tag to contain ordered tags or any tags
> (so the former would force us to say that  must appear before
>  which must appear before  and so forth - which makes the
> serialization an order of magnitude more complex).

Hmmm... I heard XSD was a bit odd, but I didn't think it was *that* bad.
Holy crap! I think I'll stick with DTDs then.

>>I'd like to point out that here the  tag is essentially defining a
>>new type, so you could change this to:
> 
> I could... but in keeping with the theme, if I did do it would probably be a
> "" (data type) tag.  ;^)

Fairy nuff. :-)

>>>Should such a thing force all children of the array to be the same?
>>
>>Yes, unless you want to reserve the "undefined" type for use in  to
>>represent somewhere where the types are specified in the body.
> 
> I was thinking more "organically" on this one.
> 
> My thinking would be that the type would only apply as a "mask" to the
> linked elements.  So, if a child tags type was defined it would apply it, if
> not it wouldn't.  If it defined an "object" but no properties then that
> object could have any properties.

You could do that alright. I was just thinking of a situation where you
might have something like this:














Where the value might be an object or an array of objects.

> This is one reason that I'm NOT super comfortable with the "type" concept...
> it seems to imply a "full" definition when it could only part of one.

Nah, types can be just partial definitions of what's going on too.

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RE: @@Identity returns excessive records

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> 2) Make sure you have thought of "additional cases" where
> they might fire that you had not expected.

I've seen on a few occasions a novice trigger-writer will create an
update trigger that produces an error if more than one record is
updated at once because they didn't antiscipate multi-record
updates... It seems to be a reasonably common mistake. I know I made
it once upon a time. :)


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RE: CFC not found error when called as web service

[Russ Michaels]

Yea I tried that, no joy.

This did work fine the last time I tried it a couple of months ago. 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 August 2005 16:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC not found error when called as web service

Hey Russ,

My guess is you need to go into CF Admin>>>web services.and then refresh
that service (should be in the list).

This is known behaviourespecially if you add a method and get a "not
found" error.

It's a real PITA to have to constantly refresh your services while
developing...but that's what we're stuck with.

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt (was RE: Ajax and CFCs)

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: WDDX Replacement Attempt (was RE: Ajax and CFCs)
> 
> Interesting ideas and it seems like a good direction.
> 
> The use of the word object seems to trip me up (since I always think of
> objects as having both values ( properties ) and funcionality ( methods
> )...)

The basis for (almost all of this) is JavaSript - that's where "object"
comes from.

Although note that there is a "function" type - so, in theory, you can pass
objects (at least JavaScript objects) with methods and properties via the
dialect.

I say "in theory" because I've no idea about "in practice" this would work
however... ;^)

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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Tony Weeg]

+1 .

On 8/18/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think your server is responding.
> 
> On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After slightly more than a week of work I've published the first
> > release of Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta and would be grateful for any feedback
> > anyone would like to offer. I would like to get some comparison with
> > the other free blog applications available for CF recently, although I
> > haven't had time to install any of them yet myself.
> >
> 
> 
> --
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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Aaron Rouse]

It responded for me but was very slow, figured it was our network still 
having issues.

On 8/18/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> I don't think your server is responding.
> 
> On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > After slightly more than a week of work I've published the first
> > release of Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta and would be grateful for any feedback
> > anyone would like to offer. I would like to get some comparison with
> > the other free blog applications available for CF recently, although I
> > haven't had time to install any of them yet myself.
> >
> 
> 
> --
> ===
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> www.mindseye.com )
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: Number of weekdays between dates?

[julian]

Excellent, Thanks to both of you. I found the script in CFLIB that you were 
referring to
CHeers,
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Re: OT: Announce: Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta Released

[Raymond Camden]

I don't think your server is responding.

On 8/18/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> After slightly more than a week of work I've published the first
> release of Blogs onTap 2.0 Beta and would be grateful for any feedback
> anyone would like to offer. I would like to get some comparison with
> the other free blog applications available for CF recently, although I
> haven't had time to install any of them yet myself.
> 


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Dir Mapping Question

[Mark Leder]

Hi all,
 
I want to be able to use FCKeditor in different apps on one server (win
2003/IIS 6).  I placed fck in a folder on the server in the following path:
"c:\inetpub\wwwroot\fckeditor\".  Then I created a mapping in CF Admin 7
called /fckeditor pointing to the dir location.  Finally I created an
virtual directory inside one of my websites called "fckeditor" pointing to
that same absolute path.
 
Trouble is, my app can't find the editor by using this syntax:
 

 
What am I doing wrong? Do I need all these mappings?
 
Thanks for your help,
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Re: Matt Robertson's FedEx Monger

[Ray Champagne]

Forget it.  I should have read further.  Visiting his site got me all 
the info I needed.



Ray Champagne wrote:
> Has anyone else used Matt's Custom Tag for FedEx?  I know it seems a 
> little old, but I would assume that a new download of the tables from 
> FedEx would update it.  I have to implement FedEx into a site, have 
> never used FedEx before, and would like a quick, easy solution.  From 
> the description on exchange, it sounds like exactly what I'd need, but 
> wanted to make sure it was able to be made current.
> 
> Matt, you have any comments?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ray

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Matt Robertson's FedEx Monger

[Ray Champagne]

Has anyone else used Matt's Custom Tag for FedEx?  I know it seems a 
little old, but I would assume that a new download of the tables from 
FedEx would update it.  I have to implement FedEx into a site, have 
never used FedEx before, and would like a quick, easy solution.  From 
the description on exchange, it sounds like exactly what I'd need, but 
wanted to make sure it was able to be made current.

Matt, you have any comments?

Thanks,

Ray
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