SOT: Mango Blog

2009-07-15 Thread Cutter (ColdFusion Related)

Does anybody know anyone associated with Mango Blog? I tried signing up 
for their forums, which sends you an email to confirm, and never 
received the email. I even checked my spam filter. Now it won't let me 
sign in, because I haven't confirmed, and I can't recreate the profile, 
because they say it already exists.

If you know somebody, please forward my message. Thanks.

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custom tags

2009-07-15 Thread RamaDevi Dobbala

Hi frnds,

cffunction name=chkTAPrimaryAccess access=public returntype=numeric 
description=This checks whether user is a primary TA owner
cfargument name=user_id required=no type=numeric 
default=#url.skey4#
   cfquery datasource=tatimesheet name=qGetTAAccess maxrows=2
select primary_id, backup_id from ta_user_level where 
active=yes and primary_id = #arguments.user_id#
/cfquery
cfif qGetTAAccess.recordcount neq 0
cfset access = 1
cfelse
cfset access = 0
/cfif 
cfreturn access
/cffunction

in this function i am getting primary acces people and backup_id 
but iam allowing peolpe only if he is primary, if i want to access the back up 
people also then what i have to do, my frnd asked me to write custom tag for 
that,
i am not gettign what to do can u suggest me... 

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CF and Apache Issue

2009-07-15 Thread Robert Nurse

Good Morning All,

We're having an issue, all of a sudden, with CF8 and Apache 2.2.  Whenever 
index.cfm is requested, CF hangs.  We took the code out of index.cfm and put it 
in new file and it works as expected.  Even a completely empty index.cfm file 
hangs CF! What could possibly be the problem.  My vote is that Apache is the 
culprit because this is only happening on that one virtual host.  Anyone have 
any ideas as to what the problem is? 

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monitoring users / access points

2009-07-15 Thread Richard White

Hi

we are wondering how you guys deal with monitoring users for a web-based 
application when the pricing model is based around a per user subscription

is there techniques of telling whether someone has passed their username and 
password to one of their colleagues to use.

could the pricing model be based around access points instead of users (i.e. we 
ask them to register their computers mac addresses instead of usernames). this 
could also provide enhanced security for our clients as it is not just a matter 
of knowing someones password but they will have to access it from specified 
computers

surely we are not the first to come up against this issue, and would appreciate 
your thoughts. 

richard 

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Re: Unicode to Human Readable Character?

2009-07-15 Thread Laura Norris

btw is the database unicode capable  ready?

That worked!  Thank you!

and yes, the database is SQL Server and the field type is nvarchar 

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Re: monitoring users / access points

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Sueltenfuss

Richard,

How i have done this in the past is track access via a database table.
Record their CFID, ip, username, etc when they login. Then, when they second
person logs in with the same username, you force the original user to log
out.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote:


 Hi

 we are wondering how you guys deal with monitoring users for a web-based
 application when the pricing model is based around a per user subscription

 is there techniques of telling whether someone has passed their username
 and password to one of their colleagues to use.

 could the pricing model be based around access points instead of users
 (i.e. we ask them to register their computers mac addresses instead of
 usernames). this could also provide enhanced security for our clients as it
 is not just a matter of knowing someones password but they will have to
 access it from specified computers

 surely we are not the first to come up against this issue, and would
 appreciate your thoughts.

 richard

 

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Re: how to get alerts in coldfusion like javascript

2009-07-15 Thread Robert Nurse

 Hi Frnds,
 
 Here is my problem...
 I have a search field Search button is an image,if i click on that 
 button after text entered it is giving the result by going to 
 corresponding action, but if don't give any text i have to get an 
 alert how to achive this, if the search string neq to 
 it is going to action if it is null i should get alert()
 
 
 Rama 


Can't you use Javascript?

onClick=if (this.form.searchbox.value.replace(/^\s+|\s+$/g, ) == ){ 
alert(No search criteria) return false} else return true; 

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Re: SOT: Mango Blog

2009-07-15 Thread AJ Mercer

Laura Arguello CCd

2009/7/15 Cutter (ColdFusion Related) cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com


 Does anybody know anyone associated with Mango Blog? I tried signing up
 for their forums, which sends you an email to confirm, and never
 received the email. I even checked my spam filter. Now it won't let me
 sign in, because I haven't confirmed, and I can't recreate the profile,
 because they say it already exists.

 If you know somebody, please forward my message. Thanks.

 --
 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it



 

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Re: SOT: Mango Blog

2009-07-15 Thread Cutter (ColdFusion)

Thanks AJ

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
_
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On 7/15/2009 9:26 AM, AJ Mercer wrote:
 Laura Arguello CCd

 2009/7/15 Cutter (ColdFusion Related)cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com


 Does anybody know anyone associated with Mango Blog? I tried signing up
 for their forums, which sends you an email to confirm, and never
 received the email. I even checked my spam filter. Now it won't let me
 sign in, because I haven't confirmed, and I can't recreate the profile,
 because they say it already exists.

 If you know somebody, please forward my message. Thanks.

 --
 Steve 'Cutter' Blades
 Adobe Certified Expert
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

 The best way to predict the future is to help create it




  

 

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CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5

George 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Casey Dougall

The real question is, will it make it to print!

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov 
george.e...@ssa.gov wrote:



 http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5

 George

 ~



The real question is, will it make it to print!
E-Week, Network World, Information Week etc...


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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Adam Haskell

Wow Darryl really mailed it on that one. Let's just take a bunch of quotes
and string them together. Good job witting the article for him Adam.


Adam

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov 
george.e...@ssa.gov wrote:



 http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5

 George

 

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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

thanks for the link, George...

Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
setup,
I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
properly)
with CFEclipse installed.

Do I need to setup another installation of Eclipse in order to test Bolt?
or rather, ColdFusion Builder?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov [mailto:george.e...@ssa.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:16 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-Cold
Fusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5

George 



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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 thanks for the link, George...

 Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
 setup,
 I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
 properly)
 with CFEclipse installed.

 Do I need to setup another installation of Eclipse in order to test Bolt?
 or rather, ColdFusion Builder?

 Rick



Standalone on windows 7 64bit worked ok... didn't try the eclipse plugin
version...

Also, I didn't notice anything about a cutoff window or anything where they
would require purchasing Coldfusion Builder.

Is this going to be free?

C.


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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
plugin?


-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 thanks for the link, George...

 Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
 setup,
 I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
 properly)
 with CFEclipse installed.

 Do I need to setup another installation of Eclipse in order to test Bolt?
 or rather, ColdFusion Builder?

 Rick



Standalone on windows 7 64bit worked ok... didn't try the eclipse plugin
version...

Also, I didn't notice anything about a cutoff window or anything where they
would require purchasing Coldfusion Builder.

Is this going to be free?

C.




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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
 plugin?



Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going to
give this a shot though...


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Re: Compare Two MySQL Databases?

2009-07-15 Thread Chris Montgomery

Marie Taylore said the following on 7/14/2009 6:24 PM:
 What's the easiest  quickest way to compare two MySQL Schemas
 (databases)?

Marie,

You might want to check out MySQL Workbench:
http://www.mysql.com/products/workbench/

Under the Change Management section of that page:
To help DBAs and developers with change management, MySQL Workbench 
includes Schema Synchronization and Comparison utilities. A DBA can 
compare two live databases or a model and a live database and visually 
see the differences, and also perform a synchronization between a model 
and a live database or vice versa.

-- 
Best regards,

Chris Montgomery

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Cutter (ColdFusion)

Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as 
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to flesh 
out my environment by including subclipse, etc.

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
 plugin?

  


 Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going to
 give this a shot though...


 

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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same Eclipse
install?

It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
What is that the case?


-Original Message-
From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as 
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to flesh 
out my environment by including subclipse, etc.

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
 plugin?

  


 Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going
to
 give this a shot though...


 



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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

 It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
 What is that the case?

Probably because they do the same thing, with the same sort of files,
etc. You can install as many copies of Eclipse as you need, if you
want to use CFEclipse for some things and ColdFusion Builder for
others. This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Gerald Guido

It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
Just a guess but it looks like the snippet browser is the same... I pointed
it to my existing snippets and they all worked... even the wizards. hence
there are probably some conflicts.

G!


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
 as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

 So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same Eclipse
 install?

 It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
 What is that the case?


 -Original Message-
 From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


 Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as
 a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to flesh
 out my environment by including subclipse, etc.

 Steve Cutter Blades
 Adobe Certified Professional
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

 Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
 http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


 On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
  r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
 
 
  So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
  plugin?
 
 
 
 
  Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going
 to
  give this a shot though...
 
 
 



 

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ssot: Ext window customization

2009-07-15 Thread LI, Chunshen (Don)

I posted a gig to cf-jobs several days ago for an expert in Ext, got some 
responses, however, none of them knows Ext and CSS truly well to do the job, 
so, sorry have to bug this list for a bigger pool.  I am able to customize an 
Ext window to some degree, however, I'm no expert in CSS, hence, to get it done 
quickly I'd like someone who's extremely well versed in both Ext (2x) and CSS 
to help me out for the little task of creating an Ext window that resembles cf8 
window, fair compensation is negotiable, if you meet the bill shoot me an email 
don at yahoo do t com

Thanks.


  

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Re: ssot: Ext window customization

2009-07-15 Thread Cutter (ColdFusion)

Don,

Create a cfwindow, view the source code, nail down the path to Adobe's 
css file, then include that css file in your project directly to 
match-up your view.

Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
_
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


On 7/15/2009 11:25 AM, LI, Chunshen (Don) wrote:
 I posted a gig to cf-jobs several days ago for an expert in Ext, got some 
 responses, however, none of them knows Ext and CSS truly well to do the job, 
 so, sorry have to bug this list for a bigger pool.  I am able to customize an 
 Ext window to some degree, however, I'm no expert in CSS, hence, to get it 
 done quickly I'd like someone who's extremely well versed in both Ext (2x) 
 and CSS to help me out for the little task of creating an Ext window that 
 resembles cf8 window, fair compensation is negotiable, if you meet the bill 
 shoot me an email don at yahoo do t com

 Thanks.




 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Scott Brady

You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.

One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
would use the same file name]

Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same installation.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
 as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

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Re: monitoring users / access points

2009-07-15 Thread Roger Austin

 Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: 
 
 Hi
 
 we are wondering how you guys deal with monitoring users for a web-based 
 application when the pricing model is based around a per user subscription
 
 is there techniques of telling whether someone has passed their username and 
 password to one of their colleagues to use.
 
 could the pricing model be based around access points instead of users (i.e. 
 we ask them to register their computers mac addresses instead of usernames). 
 this could also provide enhanced security for our clients as it is not just a 
 matter of knowing someones password but they will have to access it from 
 specified computers
 
 surely we are not the first to come up against this issue, and would 
 appreciate your thoughts. 
 
 richard 

devil's advocate
So, I am stuck with using your application only on one computer? Even though I 
have purchased a license per user? That doesn't sound right. What if my system 
dies? What if I have an office at work and one at home? What if I want to use 
it on a common use computer somewhere remote? Why would I want your product if 
I have all these restrictions? 
/devil's advocate

Maybe you make something that has no alternative, but you should be careful not 
to annoy your customers.

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RE: monitoring users / access points

2009-07-15 Thread Josh Nathanson

I have had pretty good success doing what Dave suggests.  People really
don't like being limited to using the application one at a time so they
are incentivized to purchase some sort of multi-user account.

-- Josh



-Original Message-
From: Dave Sueltenfuss [mailto:dsueltenf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: monitoring users / access points


Richard,

How i have done this in the past is track access via a database table.
Record their CFID, ip, username, etc when they login. Then, when they second
person logs in with the same username, you force the original user to log
out.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote:


 Hi

 we are wondering how you guys deal with monitoring users for a web-based
 application when the pricing model is based around a per user subscription

 is there techniques of telling whether someone has passed their username
 and password to one of their colleagues to use.

 could the pricing model be based around access points instead of users
 (i.e. we ask them to register their computers mac addresses instead of
 usernames). this could also provide enhanced security for our clients as
it
 is not just a matter of knowing someones password but they will have to
 access it from specified computers

 surely we are not the first to come up against this issue, and would
 appreciate your thoughts.

 richard

 



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cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Ihrig

ok if i load the page in my browser with this in it

cfinvoke
 component=#SESSION.myShoppingCart#
 method=List
 returnvariable=getCart
/cfinvoke

it runs just fine.

BUT
if i am cfincluding the page from another page out side the directory
with the app.cfc and other cfc
it craps out on me..

The component attribute in cfinvoke tag has invalid value. 

so think agh! i will just point it directly to the cfc..

cfinvoke
 component=youknow.cart.ShoppingCart
 method=List
 returnvariable=getCart
/cfinvoke

i get no recordset returned, even though i know i have 2 items in cart...

yes its from chapter 22 of cfwak 8-1

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cfmodule

2009-07-15 Thread Chad Gray

Inside of a CFM file that is called via CFModule.  How do you scope the 
variables in the CFM files that is passed in via CFModule?

I tried attributes.foo and it did not like that.

Thanks!
Chad


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RE: cfmodule

2009-07-15 Thread Chad Gray

Nevermind.. I had a typo!  It is attributes.

DOH!

 -Original Message-
 From: Chad Gray [mailto:cg...@careyweb.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:01 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: cfmodule
 
 
 Inside of a CFM file that is called via CFModule.  How do you scope the
 variables in the CFM files that is passed in via CFModule?
 
 I tried attributes.foo and it did not like that.
 
 Thanks!
 Chad
 
 
 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Luce

I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote:


 You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
 builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
 means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.

 One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
 a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
 far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
 if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
 suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
 would use the same file name]

 Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
 1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
 Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
 2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same
 installation.

 Scott

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
 Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
 
  Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
  as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

 

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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?

-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote:


 You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
 builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
 means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.

 One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
 a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
 far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
 if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
 suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
 would use the same file name]

 Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
 1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
 Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
 2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same
 installation.

 Scott

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
 Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
 
  Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
  as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

 



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Re: cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Ian Skinner

Paul Ihrig wrote:
 if i am cfincluding the page from another page out side the directory
 with the app.cfc and other cfc
 it craps out on me..

My first thought is that when you include it from outside the main 
directory with the Application.cfc, it causes the code to run outside of 
the define Application' and thus has no access to the shared memory.  
This is a prime example of why accession data outside of a component 
with code like #session.myShoppingCart# is considered a bad OOP 
practice.  The best practice advice to to always pass the required data 
into the component as arguments, don't require the component to be aware 
of the environment outside of itself.

There is a complex relationship between the name of an Application as 
defined by the name: property of the cfapplication... tag OR the 
'this.applicationName property of an Application.cfc file.  Any code 
that does not run under the same name does not share the same 
Application or Session memory states.  When one starts using components, 
it is common to put them outside the web root where the code does not 
run under the defined application name and thus does not share the memory.




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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Gerald Guido

From what I have read about Flex Builder is that it is a very bare bones
version of Eclipse, so I would imagine that the same is true for CF builder.
That may give rise to dependency issues with such a minimal install. I
suspect that may be an issue. Or maybe not. I would build your Eclipse
distro the way you want it and then install CF Builder as a plugin.
G!

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Greg Luce luce...@gmail.com wrote:


 I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
 'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
 provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
 Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
 installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

 Greg


-- 
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http://www.myinternetisbroken.com
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To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.
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Re: cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Ihrig

ok...
well we have a pretty intensive application.cfm

i tried placing the cfcomponent output=false

from the application.cfc inside the application.cfm in root of site
but that threw a whole crapstorm of other errors.


also tried
  cffunction name=onSessionStart returnType=void output=false
cfobject name=SESSION.myShoppingCart component=ShoppingCart
  /cffunction

but that didnt work either.

http://63.144.103.199/products/product_details.cfm?n1Id=11n2Id=81n3Id=297pn=8018114
click add to cart.
just a rough... {i have till q1 to come up with a real cart?? wtf..}

http://63.144.103.199/rittalxpress/cart/LX_right1.cfm
was the page i was including on the right
was just going to show empty cart or items in cart.
crud like that...

really kinda wondering why chapter 21-23 where left out of the printed book??

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Re: cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Ihrig

so could i just get rid of the this. stuff?

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Luce

Subclipse seems fine.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


  I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
 'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
 provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
 Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
 installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

 Greg

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
  builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
  means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.
 
  One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
  a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
  far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
  if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
  suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
  would use the same file name]
 
  Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
  1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
  Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
  2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same
  installation.
 
  Scott
 
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
  Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
  
   Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be installed
   as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.
 
 



 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Luce

But you should REALLY try Mylyn. Even if you don't connect to external bug
trackers you can keep local tasks and mylyn keeps context for them so that
when you multi-task you activate the task and the 18 files you need open
open up! I would be a mess without it.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Greg Luce luce...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subclipse seems fine.

 Greg

   On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:


 I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


  I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring
 saying
 'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
 provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
 Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
 installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

 Greg

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
  builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
  means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.
 
  One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
  a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
  far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
  if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
  suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
  would use the same file name]
 
  Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
  1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
  Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
  2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same
  installation.
 
  Scott
 
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
  Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
  
   Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be
 installed
   as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.
 
 



 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Wil Genovese

yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder  
documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding  
third-party plugins to the stand alone version.

http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/7/14/Getting-Started-with-ColdFusion-Builder



Wil Genovese

One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:


 Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be  
 installed
 as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

 So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same  
 Eclipse
 install?

 It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
 What is that the case?


 -Original Message-
 From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


 Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather  
 than as
 a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to  
 flesh
 out my environment by including subclipse, etc.

 Steve Cutter Blades
 Adobe Certified Professional
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

 Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
 http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


 On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the  
 Eclipse
 plugin?




 Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user.  
 Going
 to
 give this a shot though...






 

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Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread Chuck Weidler

I was wondering what the community was doing with comparisons, like in a cfif.  
I have done it many different ways.  List below are just few examples, and yes 
I know that the Compare() and CompareNoCase() should be used for string 
comparison and not numbers, but I have seen it done that way in some code that 
I maintain at work.  I'm not saying one way is better than another I just want 
you to give your opinions.

What is your opinion on the way to do it?

Numbers
1.  cfif this EQ that
2.  cfif Compare(this, that) EQ 0 or cfif CompareNoCase(this, that) EQ 0
3.  cfif NOT Compare(this, that) or cfif NOT CompareNoCase(this, that)

Strings
1.  cfif this IS that
2.  cfif Compare(this, that) EQ 0 or cfif CompareNoCase(this, that) EQ 0
3.  cfif NOT Compare(this, that) or cfif NOT CompareNoCase(this, that)

This was just something I was thinking about, that's all.

Enjoy and I can't wait for the responses.

Chuck 

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Re: cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Ian Skinner

Paul Ihrig wrote:
 ok...
 well we have a pretty intensive application.cfm

 i tried placing the cfcomponent output=false

 from the application.cfc inside the application.cfm in root of site
 but that threw a whole crapstorm of other errors.
   
Yeah that was a really strange idea!


 also tried
   cffunction name=onSessionStart returnType=void output=false
 cfobject name=SESSION.myShoppingCart component=ShoppingCart
   /cffunction

 but that didnt work either.
Another strange one.


I think what is required here is that the directory that contains the 
file being called:
D:\webserver\rittal-corp.com\www\rittalxpress\cart\

Make sure that this directory is covered by an Application.cfc or 
Application.cfm file that defines the same name as the rest of the 
application code.



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Re: cfinvoke newb question

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Ihrig

Ian
thank you!
it was the name scope
i was using in the example c22

changed it, and it seems to work as expected,
slow and all, but i am just trying to learn a little some thing.
befor i move on..

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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

 you multi-task you activate the task and the 18 files you need open
open up

That does sound good...

-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:46 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


But you should REALLY try Mylyn. Even if you don't connect to external bug
trackers you can keep local tasks and mylyn keeps context for them so that
when you multi-task you activate the task and the 18 files you need open
open up! I would be a mess without it.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Greg Luce luce...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subclipse seems fine.

 Greg

   On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Rick Faircloth 
 r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:


 I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?

 -Original Message-
 From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


  I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring
 saying
 'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
 provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G
RAM.
 Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
 installs to eclipse other than cfeclipse.

 Greg

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
  builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
  means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.
 
  One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
  a .project file, so you can't have a project in both applications (as
  far as I can tell, I know CF Builder wouldn't let me create a project
  if there was already a cfeclipse .project file in the folder). [I
  suspect the .project file is an eclipse standard, so every plugin
  would use the same file name]
 
  Other things I've heard from a reliable source but haven't confirmed:
  1) If you plan on using Flex Builder and CF  Builder, install Flex
  Builder as a standalone and then install the CF Builder plugin into it
  2) cfeclipse and CF Builder don't work well together in the same
  installation.
 
  Scott
 
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Rick
  Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
  
   Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be
 installed
   as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.
 
 



 



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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Greg Luce

Wow, I tried adding that gaymede  update site and just get the box that says
there are incompatibilities. If you look at the list there are a hundred or
so items all checked. No indication of what is incompatible.

Greg

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@visi.com wrote:


 yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
 documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding
 third-party plugins to the stand alone version.


 http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/7/14/Getting-Started-with-ColdFusion-Builder



 Wil Genovese

 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson

 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

 On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:

 
  Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be
  installed
  as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.
 
  So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same
  Eclipse
  install?
 
  It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
  What is that the case?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
  To: cf-talk
  Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
 
 
  Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
  than as
  a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to
  flesh
  out my environment by including subclipse, etc.
 
  Steve Cutter Blades
  Adobe Certified Professional
  Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
  Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
  http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
  _
  http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
 
 
  On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
  r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
 
 
  So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the
  Eclipse
  plugin?
 
 
 
 
  Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user.
  Going
  to
  give this a shot though...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Wil Genovese

I think if your new to Eclipse your going to have to visit the Eclipse  
site and watch some videos.

There is an option to auto select dependencies.  I use that all the  
time since there is no way to know from the long list of option what  
is needed.


Wil Genovese

One man with courage makes a majority.
-Andrew Jackson

A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

On Jul 15, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Greg Luce wrote:


 Wow, I tried adding that gaymede  update site and just get the box  
 that says
 there are incompatibilities. If you look at the list there are a  
 hundred or
 so items all checked. No indication of what is incompatible.

 Greg

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@visi.com  
 wrote:


 yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
 documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding
 third-party plugins to the stand alone version.


 http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/7/14/Getting-Started-with-ColdFusion-Builder



 Wil Genovese

 One man with courage makes a majority.
 -Andrew Jackson

 A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

 On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:09 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:


 Yes, I definitely don't want to lose SVN, so it'll have to be
 installed
 as a plug-in to Eclipse, if CFBuilder doesn't do SVN, itself.

 So is anyone successfully using CFEclipse and CFBuilder in the same
 Eclipse
 install?

 It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
 What is that the case?


 -Original Message-
 From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


 Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
 than as
 a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to
 flesh
 out my environment by including subclipse, etc.

 Steve Cutter Blades
 Adobe Certified Professional
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

 Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
 http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com


 On 7/15/2009 10:42 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the
 Eclipse
 plugin?




 Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user.
 Going
 to
 give this a shot though...










 

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RE: Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread brad

I prefer cfif iif(this eq that,de(true),de(false))

Seriously though, do what looks best and is easiest to read and
maintain.  I have seen performance benefits of one way over another, but
they are few and far between.  
Most of my business logic is in cfscript these days and I'm usually
kickin it with the ECMA operators like == != etc.

~Brad

 Original Message 
Subject: Comparisons - Your thoughts
From: Chuck Weidler h...@coldfusionguru.com
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009 1:52 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


I was wondering what the community was doing with comparisons, like in a
cfif. I have done it many different ways. List below are just few
examples, and yes I know that the Compare() and CompareNoCase() should
be used for string comparison and not numbers, but I have seen it done
that way in some code that I maintain at work. I'm not saying one way is
better than another I just want you to give your opinions.



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Re: Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread Jason Fisher

I have long been in the habit of using EQ and NEQ (and now moving to == and !=) 
for numbers in all cases, since there is no such thing as 'sort of equivalent', 
like there is with strings ('foo IS FOO' etc).  For strings I use IS, unless 
case is important, and then I use CompareNoCase(). 

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sounds like

2009-07-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Hey All,

Does anyone know of a CF function/tag/UDF that can be used to perform
sounds-like searches (i.e. phish sounds like fish)?

I see that Oracle and MySQL both have a SOUNDEX functionalso saw
that PHP has the metaphone and sounds_like functions.

TIA

Cheers
-  

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
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Re: sounds like

2009-07-15 Thread John M Bliss

http://cflib.org/udf/Soundex
http://cflib.org/udf/SoundexDifference

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Bryan Stevenson 
br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote:


 Hey All,

 Does anyone know of a CF function/tag/UDF that can be used to perform
 sounds-like searches (i.e. phish sounds like fish)?

 I see that Oracle and MySQL both have a SOUNDEX functionalso saw
 that PHP has the metaphone and sounds_like functions.

 TIA

 Cheers
 -

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
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Re: sounds like

2009-07-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Thanks John!

Ya know...I searched for ColdFusion and soundex and those didn't come
up...weird!! ;-)

Cheers
-  

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread Eric Cobb

According to this Performance tuning for ColdFusion applications post, 
you should always use compare() or compareNoCase() instead of the IS NOT 
operator, and you should use listFindNoCase() or listFind() instead of 
the IS and OR operators.

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/coldfusion_performance_04.html


Thanks,

Eric Cobb
Certified Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
http://www.cfgears.com


Jason Fisher wrote:
 I have long been in the habit of using EQ and NEQ (and now moving to == and 
 !=) for numbers in all cases, since there is no such thing as 'sort of 
 equivalent', like there is with strings ('foo IS FOO' etc).  For strings I 
 use IS, unless case is important, and then I use CompareNoCase(). 
 
 

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Re: Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread Charlie Griefer

I'd be leery of something that says, always.

Sometimes, it's OK to consider the readability/maintainability factor.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote:


 According to this Performance tuning for ColdFusion applications post,
 you should always use compare() or compareNoCase() instead of the IS NOT
 operator, and you should use listFindNoCase() or listFind() instead of
 the IS and OR operators.


 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/coldfusion_performance_04.html


 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 Certified Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 http://www.cfgears.com


 Jason Fisher wrote:
  I have long been in the habit of using EQ and NEQ (and now moving to ==
 and !=) for numbers in all cases, since there is no such thing as 'sort of
 equivalent', like there is with strings ('foo IS FOO' etc).  For strings I
 use IS, unless case is important, and then I use CompareNoCase().
 
 

 

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Re: Comparisons - Your thoughts

2009-07-15 Thread Eric Cobb

While I'll agree that the readability/maintainability factor is 
important from a developer's viewpoint, that particular article was 
specifically focused on performance and was merely pointing out which 
functions were technically faster.

If one function is built to be faster than another function, then that's 
how it's going to perform, regardless of whether or not it's easy for 
the developer to read.

That being said, I'll have to agree with Brad and Charlie on sometimes 
coding what's easiest to read and maintain.  You do reach a point where 
maintainability can play a larger role than squeezing out every tiny 
little millisecond of speed (on most apps).


Thanks,

Eric Cobb
Certified Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
http://www.cfgears.com


Charlie Griefer wrote:
 I'd be leery of something that says, always.
 
 Sometimes, it's OK to consider the readability/maintainability factor.
 
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote:
 
 According to this Performance tuning for ColdFusion applications post,
 you should always use compare() or compareNoCase() instead of the IS NOT
 operator, and you should use listFindNoCase() or listFind() instead of
 the IS and OR operators.


 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/coldfusion_performance_04.html


 Thanks,

 Eric Cobb
 Certified Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 http://www.cfgears.com


 Jason Fisher wrote:
 I have long been in the habit of using EQ and NEQ (and now moving to ==
 and !=) for numbers in all cases, since there is no such thing as 'sort of
 equivalent', like there is with strings ('foo IS FOO' etc).  For strings I
 use IS, unless case is important, and then I use CompareNoCase().


 
 

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Re: ssot: Ext window customization

2009-07-15 Thread Don L

Cutter, I wish it's that simple.  A cfwindow is unusually involved, I've tried 
to re-engineer it within Ext environment, yes, legal not stealing Adobe 
stuff, with limited success.  Thought it might be more productive, just to pay 
someone who's way ahead of me in this respect.

Don

 Don,
 
 Create a cfwindow, view the source code, nail down the path to Adobe's 
 
 css file, then include that css file in your project directly to 
 match-up your view.
 
 Steve Cutter Blades
 Adobe Certified Professional
 Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
 
 Co-Author of Learning Ext JS
 http://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js/book
 _
 http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
 
 
 On 7/15/2009 11:25 AM, LI, Chunshen (Don) wrote:
  I posted a gig to cf-jobs several days ago for an expert in Ext, got 
 some responses, however, none of them knows Ext and CSS truly well to 
 do the job, so, sorry have to bug this list for a bigger pool.  I am 
 able to customize an Ext window to some degree, however, I'm no expert 
 in CSS, hence, to get it done quickly I'd like someone who's extremely 
 well versed in both Ext (2x) and CSS to help me out for the little 
 task of creating an Ext window that resembles cf8 window, fair 
 compensation is negotiable, if you meet the bill shoot me an email don 
 at yahoo do t com
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
 
  


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CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Michael Christensen

Okay, so here's how I figure it works:

- If you use cfqueryparams in your query, the query is executed as a prepared 
statement on the SQL server.
- If you don't use cfqueryparams, the query is not executed as a prepared 
statement.

Am I right so far? If so, here's a couple of questions:

1) can you have queries with cfqueryparams not be executed as prepared 
statements on the SQL server?
2) could prepared statements have an adverse effect on performance?

Thanks of all input :) 

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RE: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

1. No
2. Yes

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Christensen mich...@strib.dk
Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 18:12
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: CF prepared statements


Okay, so here's how I figure it works:

- If you use cfqueryparams in your query, the query is executed as a prepared 
statement on the SQL server.
- If you don't use cfqueryparams, the query is not executed as a prepared 
statement.

Am I right so far? If so, here's a couple of questions:

1) can you have queries with cfqueryparams not be executed as prepared 
statements on the SQL server?
2) could prepared statements have an adverse effect on performance?

Thanks of all input :) 



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RE: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread brad

LOL Dave, you crack me up.

Michael, your first two assumptions are correct.  A cfquery with no
params is compiled into a Java java.sql.CallableStatement, and a cfquery
with at least one query param compiles into a
java.sql.PreparedStatement.

I would recommend you run some tests and use SQL Profiler to capture the
SQL being sent to the database.  You can see exactly what is happening.

As far as your first question-- like Dave said, the only way NOT to use
a prepared statement is to drop the query param.  Also, on this subject,
dropping the number of max pooled statements to 0 or unchecking maintain
connections in your data source settings will cause your prepared
statements to be unprepared after they are called so they are not reused
on subsequent calls.  From my understanding, that doesn't necessarily
keep the SQL server from caching a reusable execution plan, it simply
means the statement must be re-prepared every time as opposed to the CF
server saying hey DB, remember that one statement that I sent you
earlier that you told me to reference as prepared statement 37?  I want
to call it again with these inputs.

As far as the second question, the answer is yes, but most people like
to overlook it because it is not *generally* true-- and they want people
to always use query params.  :)
Here is some reading on how and why:
http://www.codersrevolution.com/index.cfm/2008/7/26/cfqueryparam-its-not-just-for-security-also-when-NOT-to-use-it
http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2008/11/18/performance.and.cfqueryparam

~Brad

 Original Message 
Subject: RE: CF prepared statements
From: Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
Date: Wed, July 15, 2009 5:31 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


1. No
2. Yes

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Christensen mich...@strib.dk
Sent: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009 18:12
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: CF prepared statements


Okay, so here's how I figure it works:

- If you use cfqueryparams in your query, the query is executed as a
prepared statement on the SQL server.
- If you don't use cfqueryparams, the query is not executed as a
prepared statement.

Am I right so far? If so, here's a couple of questions:

1) can you have queries with cfqueryparams not be executed as prepared
statements on the SQL server?
2) could prepared statements have an adverse effect on performance?



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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Emmit Larson

This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
how and where can I confirm this statement?

Kind Regards,
Emmit


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
  What is that the case?

 Probably because they do the same thing, with the same sort of files,
 etc. You can install as many copies of Eclipse as you need, if you
 want to use CFEclipse for some things and ColdFusion Builder for
 others. This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
 is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
 Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
 Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!

 

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eclipse and coldfusion- setting up a coldfusion server

2009-07-15 Thread Tony Bentley

In some of the online resources, I have noticed there is nothing that really 
shows how to get coldfusion to run as a server. 

Does anyone know how to configure RDS for CF8, Eclipse 3.5 and Vista?

Eclipse Java EE IDE for Web Developers.

Build id: 20090621-0832



Supposedly I can add Coldfusion as a server under Window - Server - Add

then I should be able to see Coldfusion in the list of servers but it is not 
there.



Also, to get RDS going I should be able to go into Window - Preferences and 
then select Adobe - RDS. I have Coldfusion using IIS. The configuration is RDS 
requires a password and uses admin for username I think. The IP is 127.0.0.1 
port 80. 

Unable to connect to the RDS server.

Any thoughts? 

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

  This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
  is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.

 That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
 how and where can I confirm this statement?

I didn't hear it from anywhere. It's a simple observation. You can
confirm (or refute) it yourself, by downloading the public beta of
ColdFusion Builder yourself.

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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
competition...

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From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


  This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
  is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.

 That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
 how and where can I confirm this statement?

I didn't hear it from anywhere. It's a simple observation. You can
confirm (or refute) it yourself, by downloading the public beta of
ColdFusion Builder yourself.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!



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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

 It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
 two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
 creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
 competition...

Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins that do
the same thing, I don't think we need to ascribe malice to Adobe.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Claude Schneegans

 2) could prepared statements have an adverse effect on performance?

On readability, yes, but certainly not on performance.

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Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Casey Dougall

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


 Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins that do
 the same thing, I don't think we need to ascribe malice to Adobe.



Yeah well, there color pallet sucks in standalone!  All over the place.

Bright Blue for tags Dam.


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Re: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

 LOL Dave, you crack me up.

Hey, cut me some slack, I was eating pierogies.

 As far as your first question-- like Dave said, the only way NOT to use
 a prepared statement is to drop the query param.  Also, on this subject,
 dropping the number of max pooled statements to 0 or unchecking maintain
 connections in your data source settings will cause your prepared
 statements to be unprepared after they are called so they are not reused
 on subsequent calls.  From my understanding, that doesn't necessarily
 keep the SQL server from caching a reusable execution plan, it simply
 means the statement must be re-prepared every time as opposed to the CF
 server saying hey DB, remember that one statement that I sent you
 earlier that you told me to reference as prepared statement 37?  I want
 to call it again with these inputs.

You can, however, use things like RECOMPILE hints to keep the prepared
statement from being used with an existing execution plan:

http://www.sqlmag.com/Article/ArticleID/94369/sql_server_94369.html

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Re: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Watts

 2) could prepared statements have an adverse effect on performance?

 On readability, yes, but certainly not on performance.

No, they can certainly have a bad effect on performance. Cached
execution plans don't necessarily provide the optimal plan for every
set of parameter values. And you can run into odd edge cases involving
Unicode characters causing casting issues, for example.

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CF based forums ap?

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Henderson

I'm trying to find a CF based forums ap, open source preferred but not
required. The ones I've been able to find any postings about seem to be out
dated. Does anyone have any recommendations? 

 

Thanks in advance,

-Paul

 

 

 



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RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK

2009-07-15 Thread Rick Faircloth

Yeah, well, it certainly made me a little suspicious when there was a
seemingly prepared statement ready to pounce on CFEclipse when its
installation was detected.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK


 It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
 two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is
purposefully
 creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
 competition...

Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins that do
the same thing, I don't think we need to ascribe malice to Adobe.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!



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Re: CF based forums ap?

2009-07-15 Thread Nathan Strutz

Did you check out Ray Camden's Galleon forums app? I would bet it's on
riaforge.org. Pretty simple to figure out and modify.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2009, Paul Henderson pa...@d2phosting.com wrote:

 I'm trying to find a CF based forums ap, open source preferred but not
 required. The ones I've been able to find any postings about seem to be out
 dated. Does anyone have any recommendations?



 Thanks in advance,

 -Paul









 

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Re: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread Claude Schneegans

 No, they can certainly have a bad effect on performance.

I must admit two things here:
1. I was more quoting many people here about performance than giving my 
own experience,
2. personnally, I don't like CFQUERYPARAM, I use it only when really 
necessary, ie. only on text fields
coming from a form in the public part of my sites.
If it is only for SQL injection prevention, there are other means that 
do not make queries unreadable.
And there are other kinds of attack CFQUERYPARAM will not protect from 
anyway.

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Re: monitoring users / access points

2009-07-15 Thread Al Musella, DPM

One other thing I do is put the users' name on every page and report, 
and I also list the last 10 transactions they did at the bottom of 
the page, with a way to undo them or edit them..   which makes it 
awkward for them to share the login..  the other person can undo 
their work, and see what they were doing.



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Re: ColdFusion Report Builder and Excel Output

2009-07-15 Thread David

Yeah, Report Builder tries to match the positioning exactly, even if
it means putting in extra rows/columns in Excel. All the elements in
the report would need to be aligned perfectly, and you'll still
probably get extra.

Alternatives we've used are CSV files, or else the HTML or XML used in
excel 2003/2007, then deliver with an Excel extension

- David

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Asaf Pelega...@locusenergy.com wrote:

 Hello, I've recently been messing around with ColdFusion Report Builder 
 because of it's ability to easily output the report in different formats.  To 
 my dismay, reports that look good in PDF  HTML get formatted very poorly in 
 excel.  Data gets pushed into non-sequential cells and cell formatting is 
 unwieldy.  In short, it is not a usable document.

 I'm wondering if anyone has had any experience, frustration, etc, trying to 
 get the Report Builder to output useful excel documents?  Can anyone point me 
 in the right direction to format the reports so they are excel friendly?

 Thanks,
 Asaf


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Re: CF prepared statements

2009-07-15 Thread James Holmes

Do we have to have this same conversation once per week?

mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

2009/7/16 Claude Schneegans schneeg...@internetique.com:

 If it is only for SQL injection prevention, there are other means that
 do not make queries unreadable.
 And there are other kinds of attack CFQUERYPARAM will not protect from
 anyway.

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RE: CF based forums ap?

2009-07-15 Thread Nick Gleason

Fusetalk is great.  But, it's not free.

Nick
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Henderson [mailto:pa...@d2phosting.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:04 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: CF based forums ap?
 
 
 I'm trying to find a CF based forums ap, open source 
 preferred but not required. The ones I've been able to find 
 any postings about seem to be out dated. Does anyone have any 
 recommendations? 
 
  
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 -Paul
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 

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RE: CF based forums ap?

2009-07-15 Thread Paul Henderson

I did briefly look at Ray Camden's Galleon. It only requires CF MX 6.1 so I
thought it might be outdated but it looks like Ray stays on top of it
because the last update was from June 2009. So far it looks like Galleon is
my best bet. Thanks for the reply Nathan. 

-Original Message-
From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:str...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:22 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF based forums ap?


Did you check out Ray Camden's Galleon forums app? I would bet it's on
riaforge.org. Pretty simple to figure out and modify.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2009, Paul Henderson pa...@d2phosting.com wrote:

 I'm trying to find a CF based forums ap, open source preferred but not
 required. The ones I've been able to find any postings about seem to be
out
 dated. Does anyone have any recommendations?



 Thanks in advance,

 -Paul









 



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