Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone gives up coding for the other browsers, then it's game over, MS will not only own your personal machines, but the internet too!The other option of course is those people who don't run IE will simply not return to your sites, and from where I sit, I see a few more people looking at the alternatives to windows than there were just a few months ago. I think you need to put the question to your clients, not the developers. Most of the CF list probably wouldn't care a jot if they only had to develop for IE. But their clients may be a little more caring! The last thing you want to do is go to a client and say 'we'll code it for IE', only to receive a call a week after it goes live saying 'my mate said he can't view the site'... the client isn't going to be too happy. IMHO, code for the biggest market, because people will simply not return to your site if the only way they can see it is to have to download another browser. All our sites are tested under different browsers on several platforms. We still have clients that use Netscape as their main browser. We all use different browsers internally too, I prefer to use Opera, and occasionally Netscape, on Linux, and for the one site that forces me to use IE (Internet Banking), I switch on my NT box (although I'm looking at switching banks because of this very reason). Our designers either use Netscape or IE, but both on the Mac platform. Just my thoughts. N Rey Bango wrote: For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best resources for info and some of the most talented and savvy people that I've met post to CF-Talk, I was hoping that I could get some good feedback. So, if we consider that the apps that I'm developing will be geared towards the Internet consumer at large and I won't have the luxury of developing for a controlled environment like a corporate intranet, I beg the question: Should I continue to worry about Netscape? If so, which version should serve as a baseline? Looking forward to your responses. C-ya, Rey... __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?
I use Netscape 4.78 on Linux because it's faster than Mozilla and Netscape 6. Simple as that. And I still use Netscape as my email client, because it has (IMHO) the best IMAP client out there. I have to say that on Linux, Opera is looking damn fine though! And even on our Macs Opera is almost looking like being the best browser option. :^) Steve Oliver wrote: It's an assumption on my part, looks like everyone else thinks differently. I guess there could be a few people out there running NS 4.7 on a 75mhz computer, not worrying about upgrading anything because it does what they need. __ steve oliver atnet solutions, inc. http://www.atnetsolutions.com -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? The majority of the people who do run NS (the fans) would certainly of upgraded to the latest version, which is pretty W3C compliant. Is this a fact or an assumption? :) I would tend to guess just the opposite based on my own experience and from the stats I've seen in the past. It has been several months since I hunted for reasonably reliable looking stats from other than tech-oriented sites, though, so things might well have evolved. Ken __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Linux
Andy, you may want to drop this question in to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list... the guys there will give you some better answers... (they are probably on this list too, but saves people whinging at you!) From what I've read, version 5 seems to perform really well... Part of my game plan is to move CF Server over to linux, as I already do all my development using jEdit running on Mandrake 8.1. There are ODBC drivers available to connect to SQL Server databases, or you could use mySQL or Postgres depending on your applications needs. N Andy Parry wrote: OK, seeing as you have asked so politely (see below) Hi. What has been people's experience of CF server under Linux ? I and my colleagues tried an early version in mid-2000 and experienced lots of problems with it in terms of performance (eg. spawnining heaps of CF processes which did not want to stop). Admittedly, I am a web developer and not an expert on Linux, so I was not in a position to do much detailed investigation as to why this was. Since then it has been quite a while, so I am very interested to hear what people think of CF Server for Linux and how it has performed. Also, what about connectivity to SQL Server ? Any problems there? Or solutions ? Thanks in advance and sorry for continuing the dread MM thread. andy -Original Message- From: Jim Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re[2]: Macromedia.com COULD YOU PLEASE KICK THIS (*#(*$#@_(*$ DEAD HORSE SOMEWHERE ELSE!! Could we * P L E A S E * get back to our regularly scheduled program of TECHNICAL issues concerning Cold Fusion!? Thanks Jim __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Cold Fusion and Visual Source Safe
I used the two together for a few years, it saved my bacon a few times too!! I found it very useful for several reasons including, a history of changes, code could be recoevered in the event of deleting files, and the ability to rollback to any previous version of the file. All normal source control things really. Since switching to Linux for development, I still use Source Control in the form of cvs. Wouldn't code without it now! N Jaye Morris wrote: Hope this is not too OT. Are there any dev teams uisng Visual Source Safe for their code (or similar product)? Did you find it useful? // Jaye Morris, Multimedia Designer __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Creating Text fields longer than 255 characters?
From memory, I think it's just TEXT in SQL Server N Webmaster wrote: Ok, I have lost my train of thought. I know you can manually create the memo field with Access, but I need to know the standard SQL format. I know that there is the Long Text variable, but do not know what the SQL format is. I tried VarChar, but that only goes to 255. What is the format I am looking for to create a field that will support at least 500 characters? Any help would be appreciated. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Quanta?
Alternately you could use jEdit! :^) It runs on Linux Windows, so you could use the same environment on both platforms. jEdit, IMO, is closer to Studio than Quanta is... it includes code collapsing, syntax highlighting etc... it also supports plugins that include options for FTP, Code Aid, Project Management. I have heard that someone is doing something for ColdFusion functions, it currently supports ColdFusion syntac highlighting etc, but there is meant to be more support coming for it. I've been using it all day every day since switching to Linux and can;t complain. N Billy Cravens wrote: I've used Quanta (for PHP, not CF development). It's not a bad editor, but it doesn't have the power of Studio. Once they offer (do they?) the ability to extend the IDE with user-defined toolbars and wizards (similar to VTML), it will be very cool. (I know they say they support CF, but I get the feeling that it won't be much more than recognition of file extensions and some color coding, similar to Studio's support for things like Java and Perl). I think it's a good option (analagous to using Homesite) but I think using CF Studio in a WINE/VMWare like session would be better. - Original Message - From: Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Quanta? Anyone ever used Quanta for developing CF pages? If so, what are your experiences with it? Here'a a mention in the Linux Today Newsletter (1/9/02): LINUXPR: THEKOMPANY.COM RELEASES QUANTA GOLD VERSION 3.3.2 WITH ZOPE AND COLDFUSION SUPPORT Quanta Gold is designed for the professional web developer that needs sophisticated project management abilities as well as all the features and hooks that a modern web site needs. This release is significant for the expanded support of various web languages. COMPLETE STORY: http://linuxpr.com/releases/4399.html -- Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Development Consulting, Software Sales http://www.astutia.com Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Creating ZIP archives
Hi, I have a requirement to zip up some image files together and FTP them to another server. The FTP bit is easy, but I'm wondering if anyone knows how (or whether there are any modules) that will create a ZIP file. Thanks Nick -- Nick Texidor __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMail and html/text
You bet!! Joseph DeVore posted exactly that a couple of weeks ago. I will email it to you directly. Thanks N Terry Troxel wrote: Could someone shed some light on how you can send an email through CFMail that includes both a plain text as well as an html version of the message that will display html if the recipient's mail package supports it and text if it does not. I would appreciate any and all help in this matter. Terry Troxel __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
HOWTO... Sending HTML Text emails using CFMAIL
I had a couple of other people request a copy of this email, so I thought I'd repost it to the list. PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT my email, I take no credit for it. The message was originally posted by Joseph DeVore... all credit to him please!! N Original Message Subject: RE: HTML EMAIL Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:55:39 -0800 From: Joseph DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This code should get you on your way. For simplicity I use 3 includes for the mime parts. * TEXT.CFM (plain text version for text only clients) * AOL.CFM (aol version for older version of aol - limited html tags) * HTML.CFM (html version) cfmail to= from= subject= cfmailparam name=X-Mailer value=VeloxWeb multipart mailer v1.0 cfmailparam name=MIME-Version value=1.0 cfmailparam name=Content-Type value=multipart/alternative; boundary=veloxweb --veloxweb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=text.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/x-aol; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=aol.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=html.cfm --veloxweb-- /cfmail HTH, Joseph DeVore VeloxWeb Technologies -Original Message- From: Tony Gruen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML EMAIL Forgive the redundancy - I saw this q answered here weeks ago yet cannot find it in the FAQ or archives. I am trying to nail down the syntax for HTMl formatted emails with text version as backup. You know, the proper way to do it. I thought about using the custom tag CF_HTMLMAIL but we are using iSMail SE and I don't know that I can combine the two. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML EMAIL
ah man.. where were you a couple of weeks ago when I posted a question about HTML newsletters!! Joseph... you are a legend!!! :^) Joseph DeVore wrote: This code should get you on your way. For simplicity I use 3 includes for the mime parts. * TEXT.CFM (plain text version for text only clients) * AOL.CFM (aol version for older version of aol - limited html tags) * HTML.CFM (html version) cfmail to= from= subject= cfmailparam name=X-Mailer value=VeloxWeb multipart mailer v1.0 cfmailparam name=MIME-Version value=1.0 cfmailparam name=Content-Type value=multipart/alternative; boundary=veloxweb --veloxweb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=text.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/x-aol; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=aol.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=html.cfm --veloxweb-- /cfmail HTH, Joseph DeVore VeloxWeb Technologies -Original Message- From: Tony Gruen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML EMAIL Forgive the redundancy - I saw this q answered here weeks ago yet cannot find it in the FAQ or archives. I am trying to nail down the syntax for HTMl formatted emails with text version as backup. You know, the proper way to do it. I thought about using the custom tag CF_HTMLMAIL but we are using iSMail SE and I don't know that I can combine the two. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML EMAIL
I've been trying this, and having a few problems!! It sends the email with multiparts, as intended... however, Netscape no longer displays the email in HTML, it seems to prefer displaying the text mode! When I sent emails with TYPE=HTML, Netscape displayed them correctly. Yet in another email program that I use that DIDN'T display the TYPE=HTML newsletters correctly (just a pile of HTML) it now works!! Bizzare!! Can you ever win!! :) N Tony Gruen wrote: Thank you very much to all who replied. I truly appreciate it. T This code should get you on your way. For simplicity I use 3 includes for the mime parts. * TEXT.CFM (plain text version for text only clients) * AOL.CFM (aol version for older version of aol - limited html tags) * HTML.CFM (html version) cfmail to= from= subject= cfmailparam name=X-Mailer value=VeloxWeb multipart mailer v1.0 cfmailparam name=MIME-Version value=1.0 cfmailparam name=Content-Type value=multipart/alternative; boundary=veloxweb --veloxweb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=text.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/x-aol; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=aol.cfm --veloxweb Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii cfinclude template=html.cfm --veloxweb-- /cfmail HTH, Joseph DeVore VeloxWeb Technologies -Original Message- From: Tony Gruen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML EMAIL Forgive the redundancy - I saw this q answered here weeks ago yet cannot find it in the FAQ or archives. I am trying to nail down the syntax for HTMl formatted emails with text version as backup. You know, the proper way to do it. I thought about using the custom tag CF_HTMLMAIL but we are using iSMail SE and I don't know that I can combine the two. __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT- Hosting recommendations
I just found www.fasthosts.co.uk. They can give you a dedicated machine, running as many domains as you like. You can add domains, email accounts, ODBC connections etc yourself through their control panel. They can provide either Windows machines (from 199 pounds p/m) or Linux ones (from 89 pounds p/m). If anyone has used them, can you comment on them? N On 08 Dec 2001 20:58:43 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Mike, Sounds like you're in exactly the opposite situation to me. I *don't* want to sell hosting - too much hassle. If someone's site goes down at 3am, the last person I want them calling is me. Dedicated Hosting in Australia kept trying to push us into a dedicated server for our clients, hinting that they would be more willing to accommodate special requirements if we had our own machine with them - which is why we don't use them anymore. Have you checked them out? I would recommend actually speaking to Domain Host though - Erez has been very helpful, setting up the Camtech merchant server for us for one of our clients without charging us extra. As a result, we are putting all our new Camtech clients on their servers. Their website is quite dodgy as I mentioned - there are a lot of things that aren't mentioned at all - like SQL Server which is something I would consider very important! They do seem willing to make an extra effort to accommodate web developers who might be good for their business, so if you ask them they might be able to accommodate you. You never know until you ask, anyway :) I have my own personal account and a non-profit site I look after with RUWebby - they are resellers of Handy Networks, who are US based. I believe Erika from RUWebby is on this list. As far as I know, Handy Networks deal exclusively with resellers. They might be more what you are looking for. HTH, K. : Thanks for your suggestion Kay. I have my doubts about whether it's : going : to work out for me though because I want to sell hosting. : There isn't : anyone I've found in Australia that is prepared to offer a : decent businesslike way to accommodate people like me. So : since I don't have enough hosting clients yet to afford : the cost of my own server, I have to keep hosting in the : USA. That company doesn't seem to even know that resellers : exist. No mention on their web site as far as I can see. : : Perhaps someone knows of an Australian hosting company : prepared to work with resellers. I don't mean offering : finders fees or commissions on referred business - I've got : no interest in that. All I'd be doing is giving my hard-won : clients to them. I mean someone who's prepared to run the : hardware, let me buy space on it, give me a control panel : so I can set up sites and domains myself, and who doesn't : insist on billing my clients for their space. I want to do that. : : : A hosting company has to take care of the technical needs of : the clients : - : fast reliable servers, the right database and server : software etc, but : they also have to cater for the business needs too. : : : No one in Australia seems prepared to do that, and at a : price that isn't ridiculous. There has to be room for me to : make a meagre buck in it too. : : : Cheers, : Mike Kear : Windsor, NSW, Australia : AFP WebWorks : : : : : -Original Message- : From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:06 PM : To: CF-Talk : Subject: Re: OT- Hosting recommendations : : Mike, : : A bit late I know, but have you looked at Domain Host in : Melbourne? http://www.domainhost.com.au - their web site is : a little bit dodgy but their prices are by far the best I've : seen in Australia, and their support has been top notch. I : have several clients with CF5, SQL Server, Live Stats, all : the usual guff for AUD $77 per month - and that's their most : expensive account. They have co-lo and dedicated boxes etc, : and were willing to install the Camtech online payment : server for us for no extra charge. After all the crap I've : had from Australian ColdFusion hosts they are a ray of sunshine. : : K. : : PS. After reading all that, I sound like I'm getting : something out of recommending them. I'm not. But if you do : talk to them, tell them Kay from PerthWeb recommended you - : maybe it will work! : : : Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... : Thanks for your suggestion, but CFXHosting don't cater to : resellers. : They : only have a referral program. Referral programs suit : sales people, : who : want to grab a deal and hand it to someone else to do the : development : work. The customer becomes theirs, and they are then free : to compete : with me for the CF Development business. I'd rather take full : responsibility for the site and have the hosting company at arms
Re: OT- Hosting recommendations
hmmm, is domain host the same as OzHosting? I seem to remember that when my accounts were moved to OzHosting, I could access them using a temporary domain host name If they are one and the same.. STEER CLEAR! I, and several other people I know have had several episodes with them, and I simply could not recommend them to anyone!! N On 06 Dec 2001 16:05:34 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Mike, A bit late I know, but have you looked at Domain Host in Melbourne? http://www.domainhost.com.au - their web site is a little bit dodgy but their prices are by far the best I've seen in Australia, and their support has been top notch. I have several clients with CF5, SQL Server, Live Stats, all the usual guff for AUD $77 per month - and that's their most expensive account. They have co-lo and dedicated boxes etc, and were willing to install the Camtech online payment server for us for no extra charge. After all the crap I've had from Australian ColdFusion hosts they are a ray of sunshine. K. PS. After reading all that, I sound like I'm getting something out of recommending them. I'm not. But if you do talk to them, tell them Kay from PerthWeb recommended you - maybe it will work! Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks for your suggestion, but CFXHosting don't cater to resellers. They only have a referral program. Referral programs suit sales people, who want to grab a deal and hand it to someone else to do the development work. The customer becomes theirs, and they are then free to compete with me for the CF Development business. I'd rather take full responsibility for the site and have the hosting company at arms length from the client. I won't have a bar of any referral program on my supplier side because us the development work is the main game. If we could, we'd get rid of the sales process altogether. That's why I have a referral program myself on the other side of the ledger. I want to make the client MY client. (I might add my own referral program is a LOT more generous than these hosting companies offer!) But thanks for your suggestion anyway. Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks, Windsor, NSW, Australia -Original Message- From: Douglas L. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT- Hosting recommendations As far as hosting compines go, I would suggest cfxhosting.com http://www.cfxhosting.com . Everything I hear from others is on a real positive note. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: OT- Hosting recommendations I'm looking to move my smaller clients to a new hosting company, because of support issues and restrictions on what I can and can't do where I am now. There are about 20 domains involved, and I'm thinking of using Sitebysize.com in Texas. Has anyone had any experience with them? What I need are: CF, SQLServer, ability to control my domains, mail accounts, etc myself from the web, low cost (which rules out any Australian hosting companies), and a responsive support department (my biggest complaint about my current host). Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks, Windsor, NSW, Australia. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT- Hosting recommendations
I used Cyberhost for a long time, and in fact use them still, under their new name and I have rarely ever had a problem with them, but OzHosting I won't go there!! They had a debt collector onto me for invoices that were less than 10 days old, and I hadn't even received copies of the invoices!! N On 06 Dec 2001 17:52:04 +0900, list peters wrote: hi... i think that was cyberhost? chad hmmm, is domain host the same as OzHosting? I seem to remember that when my accounts were moved to OzHosting, I could access them using a temporary domain host name If they are one and the same.. STEER CLEAR! I, and several other people I know have had several episodes with them, and I simply could not recommend them to anyone!! N On 06 Dec 2001 16:05:34 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Mike, A bit late I know, but have you looked at Domain Host in Melbourne? http://www.domainhost.com.au - their web site is a little bit dodgy but their prices are by far the best I've seen in Australia, and their support has been top notch. I have several clients with CF5, SQL Server, Live Stats, all the usual guff for AUD $77 per month - and that's their most expensive account. They have co-lo and dedicated boxes etc, and were willing to install the Camtech online payment server for us for no extra charge. After all the crap I've had from Australian ColdFusion hosts they are a ray of sunshine. K. PS. After reading all that, I sound like I'm getting something out of recommending them. I'm not. But if you do talk to them, tell them Kay from PerthWeb recommended you - maybe it will work! Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks for your suggestion, but CFXHosting don't cater to resellers. They only have a referral program. Referral programs suit sales people, who want to grab a deal and hand it to someone else to do the development work. The customer becomes theirs, and they are then free to compete with me for the CF Development business. I'd rather take full responsibility for the site and have the hosting company at arms length from the client. I won't have a bar of any referral program on my supplier side because us the development work is the main game. If we could, we'd get rid of the sales process altogether. That's why I have a referral program myself on the other side of the ledger. I want to make the client MY client. (I might add my own referral program is a LOT more generous than these hosting companies offer!) But thanks for your suggestion anyway. Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks, Windsor, NSW, Australia -Original Message- From: Douglas L. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT- Hosting recommendations As far as hosting compines go, I would suggest cfxhosting.com http://www.cfxhosting.com . Everything I hear from others is on a real positive note. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: OT- Hosting recommendations I'm looking to move my smaller clients to a new hosting company, because of support issues and restrictions on what I can and can't do where I am now. There are about 20 domains involved, and I'm thinking of using Sitebysize.com in Texas. Has anyone had any experience with them? What I need are: CF, SQLServer, ability to control my domains, mail accounts, etc myself from the web, low cost (which rules out any Australian hosting companies), and a responsive support department (my biggest complaint about my current host). Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks, Windsor, NSW, Australia. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT- Hosting recommendations
You are correct Kay... Actually, Cyberhost were the original company (now back in business as Dedicated Hosting). I have been using them for years now. Early last year Cynerhost were bought by iAsiaWorks and then towards the end of the year, OzHosting bought all the Virtual Server Business from iAsia Works This is when it all went horribly wrong for us. OzHosting, were shocking. Customer Service was terrible, and it took several weeks to try and get another server set up. Dedicated Hosting then came about, mainly dealing with co-lo stuff, and after hearing about the hassles their former clients had with OzHosting, they started up offering virtual servers. I've subsequently moved all my clients back, and couldn't be happier. OzHosting also cut services off without warning! Dedicated Hosting are worth a look, IMO. (I don't work for them) Nick On 06 Dec 2001 18:08:01 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Actually I think Ozhosting /Cyberhosting is now Dedicated Hosting - I have one client on there and they are OK, but get quite pricy when you want something that's not one of their predefined packages. Nick Texidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:47A0AECF-F1DE-4B62-9EE70FF2C453EEF2@dposter... hmmm, is domain host the same as OzHosting? I seem to remember that when my accounts were moved to OzHosting, I could access them using a temporary domain host name If they are one and the same.. STEER CLEAR! I, and several other people I know have had several episodes with them, and I simply could not recommend them to anyone!! N On 06 Dec 2001 16:05:34 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Mike, A bit late I know, but have you looked at Domain Host in Melbourne? http://www.domainhost.com.au - their web site is a little bit dodgy but their prices are by far the best I've seen in Australia, and their support has been top notch. I have several clients with CF5, SQL Server, Live Stats, all the usual guff for AUD $77 per month - and that's their most expensive account. They have co-lo and dedicated boxes etc, and were willing to install the Camtech online payment server for us for no extra charge. After all the crap I've had from Australian ColdFusion hosts they are a ray of sunshine. K. PS. After reading all that, I sound like I'm getting something out of recommending them. I'm not. But if you do talk to them, tell them Kay from PerthWeb recommended you - maybe it will work! Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks for your suggestion, but CFXHosting don't cater to resellers. They only have a referral program. Referral programs suit sales people, who want to grab a deal and hand it to someone else to do the development work. The customer becomes theirs, and they are then free to compete with me for the CF Development business. I'd rather take full responsibility for the site and have the hosting company at arms length from the client. I won't have a bar of any referral program on my supplier side because us the development work is the main game. If we could, we'd get rid of the sales process altogether. That's why I have a referral program myself on the other side of the ledger. I want to make the client MY client. (I might add my own referral program is a LOT more generous than these hosting companies offer!) But thanks for your suggestion anyway. Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks, Windsor, NSW, Australia -Original Message- From: Douglas L. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT- Hosting recommendations As far as hosting compines go, I would suggest cfxhosting.com http://www.cfxhosting.com . Everything I hear from others is on a real positive note. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: OT- Hosting recommendations I'm looking to move my smaller clients to a new hosting company, because of support issues and restrictions on what I can and can't do where I am now. There are about 20 domains involved, and I'm thinking of using Sitebysize.com in Texas. Has anyone had any experience with them? What I need are: CF, SQLServer, ability to control my domains, mail accounts, etc myself from the web, low cost (which rules out any Australian hosting companies), and a responsive support department (my biggest complaint about my current host). Cheers, Mike Kear
RE: HTML Newsletters again!
That's what I've been doing... But some clients still just display the raw code. I had two emails sent from the same script, different template though, both are set to send HTML, yet one appears as HTML with the images etc, the other as plain text with all the HTML code? If I look at the email headers, one says 'content-type text/html' the other 'content-type text/plain'. Bizarre? Can anyone help to shed some light?? Thanks On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 01:09, Larry Juncker wrote: I send my HTML Newsletter as a CFINCLUDE TEMPLATE=Newsletter.htm in the body of my CFMAIL and it seems to work excellent. You want to make sure though that you give the FULL PATH to ANY images in your newsletter or they will appear broken. Hope this helps Larry Juncker Senior Cold Fusion Developer Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML Newsletters again! Hi, I'm trying to send out an HTML newsletter using the CFMAIL tag. I have specified that the mail type is HTML, however, the email still seems to arrive as a bunch of html code, even in email clients that DO display html. Can anyone provide any pointers with regards to sending HTML newsletters? Thanks Nick ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML Newsletters again!
Weird I just tried this method too and in my email program.. it is STILL saying 'Content-Type: text/plain' I don't understand?!?!?!?!?!? Is it the sending server that determines the Content-Type, or the receiving server? And if it's the receiving server, how does it decide whether it's text/html or text/plain??? On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 12:21, Scott Weikert wrote: Just spotted this thread... my main project at the moment is a web-based newsletter system, where you can add subscribers and do email broadcasts of the newsletter, along with just hitting the website and seeing the newsletter. One thing I started doing with my broadcasts - to generate the 'guts' of the HTML email - is to do a CFHTTP call to my display code, passing in the appropriate variables for the newsletter/issue/other settings - and then using the FileContent from THAT in the body of the HTML. I do massage it a little bit (a bit of custom stuff), but I don't really mess with the raw structure of it. It seems to work pretty well. -Original Message- From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML Newsletters again! That's what I've been doing... But some clients still just display the raw code. I had two emails sent from the same script, different template though, both are set to send HTML, yet one appears as HTML with the images etc, the other as plain text with all the HTML code? If I look at the email headers, one says 'content-type text/html' the other 'content-type text/plain'. Bizarre? Can anyone help to shed some light?? Thanks On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 01:09, Larry Juncker wrote: I send my HTML Newsletter as a CFINCLUDE TEMPLATE=Newsletter.htm in the body of my CFMAIL and it seems to work excellent. You want to make sure though that you give the FULL PATH to ANY images in your newsletter or they will appear broken. Hope this helps Larry Juncker Senior Cold Fusion Developer Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: HTML Newsletters again! Hi, I'm trying to send out an HTML newsletter using the CFMAIL tag. I have specified that the mail type is HTML, however, the email still seems to arrive as a bunch of html code, even in email clients that DO display html. Can anyone provide any pointers with regards to sending HTML newsletters? Thanks Nick ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
HTML Newsletters again!
Hi, I'm trying to send out an HTML newsletter using the CFMAIL tag. I have specified that the mail type is HTML, however, the email still seems to arrive as a bunch of html code, even in email clients that DO display html. Can anyone provide any pointers with regards to sending HTML newsletters? Thanks Nick ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio alternative for Linux?
Maybe it's just me, but there does seems to be a fair few developers who use Linux for development... Let's hope Macromedia release for this platform as it's user base continues to grow. Having said that, there seems to be a lot of talk about Studio being dropped? Is that true? Or are they just merging the two Studio products? Anyway... good luck with jEdit... it's VERY flexible, and don't let the fact that it's java based put you off... it runs very well. First stop... go to the plug-ins option, and see all the additional plug-ins you can download... there's plenty to choose from. I also heard a rumour that someone was working on a plug-in to handle the ColdFusion tags and offer parameter options. At the moment, it's only syntax highlighting, but then, you know all the parameters, right? ;^) Good luck.. N On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Roel wrote: I have mailed Allaire a while back with the question if they were planning on a Linux release but sofar no awnser. Maybe if we all throw this question in their direction we can get an awnser. At the moment i'm downing Jedit as suggested here, let's hope it meets my demands. - Original Message - From: Nick Texidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:19 PM Subject: RE: Studio alternative for Linux? I use jEdit on Linux for development work... great editor!! I also use Linux on my desktop for development... I guess a reply to your question is why not?? It shouldn't matter what OS you use on your desktop? Whatever you prefer and are comfortable with. I made the switch to Linux about six months ago. I have many reasons for doing it, and I couldn't be happier. I have no need to boot into Windows, mainly because I have another windows machine where I can get to SQL Server, Access and ColdFusion. And I rarely use it for anything else. Linux meets all my needs, I don't have to pay those ridiculous INCREASING licensing fees to MS and more importantly, I like using it. N On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Won Lee wrote: How dare you suggest VI or that pitiful excuse for an editor, PICO. Isn't it obvious that you are looking for EMACS. On a more serious note, may I ask why you are actually using LINUX as your desktop/wokstation computer? I agree that running CFServer on Solaris or LINUX yeilds better performance, but I don't see any benefits of developing in a LINUX IDE. Perhaps you can fill me in. Won -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio alternative for Linux? visual slick edit On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, BILLY CRAVENS wrote: Quanta is decent as well - Original Message - From: Jesse Noller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: RE: Studio alternative for Linux? http://www.jedit.org is nice. VIM for windows has a CFML layer http://lanzarotta.tripod.com/vim/syntax/cf.vim.zip Jesse Noller Linux Fiend Macromedia Server Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give a man a fish, and he'll pester you to keep giving him fish. Teach a man to fish, and he'll pester you for better fishing theory. --Me, 2001 -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Studio alternative for Linux? Well I went ahead and installed Linux (Mandrake) for the first time in 8 years this past weekend. What a difference from the Slackware and floppies... Does anyone have any good reccomendations for a code editor for Linux that has tag insight, ftp, and some of the other nicer features of Studio? ...and if anyone says VI I'm going to scream :) jon ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio alternative for Linux?
Jon, Don't know if you noticed, there's a Quanta Gold just been released!! It's got an integrated ftp client now, and supposedly better integration with CVS. More to the point, on their home page (www.thekcompany.com/products/quanta) they mention that ColdFusion support is planned for the syntax highlighting. This new version is also being charged for though!! Maybe I'll stick with jEdit!! Incidentally, there is also a Windows version of Quanta. N On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, jon wrote: You know -- there is stuff for Linux that costs money... (just wanted to dispell a common myth) I've been experimenting with Quanta for a development platform -- I think it's part of the KDE family of projects. And while you're right, there aren't a lot of office drones using Linux as their day to day OS, there are a ton of us developing on the platform... -- jon -- jon roig epilepsyfoundation.org On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Dave Watts wrote: As much as it pains me (most of you know which OS I use) at this time there are no plans to develop a studio for linux. The reasons are legion, and I pester people about it regularly. That's why I've tried to get you, the developers to show that there is a demand for a Linux version by helping develop a more robust system for say, Jedit, or another like-editor. I'd love to be able to say that yes, studio for linux is a fo'sho thing, but it's not. On the other hand, ColdFusion on Linux rocks! =] /bias As much as it pains me to respond the way I'm doing now, I'm kind of glad there won't be a Linux version of Studio any time soon. Unfortunately, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Porting Studio to Linux would cost MM time and money, which they probably don't have. There's no way in hell they'd be able to recoup their development costs - there simply aren't enough people using Linux as their desktop. I know that you'd be all over it yourself, but I don't think the development costs would be covered by your use - especially since you'd get it for free, working for MM and all. So, MM would have to spread those costs across Studio purchases in general, I think. Second, I suspect that Studio will be changing dramatically in the next release, and if this is true, I'll be happy for a stable Windows version. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio alternative for Linux?
I use jEdit on Linux for development work... great editor!! I also use Linux on my desktop for development... I guess a reply to your question is why not?? It shouldn't matter what OS you use on your desktop? Whatever you prefer and are comfortable with. I made the switch to Linux about six months ago. I have many reasons for doing it, and I couldn't be happier. I have no need to boot into Windows, mainly because I have another windows machine where I can get to SQL Server, Access and ColdFusion. And I rarely use it for anything else. Linux meets all my needs, I don't have to pay those ridiculous INCREASING licensing fees to MS and more importantly, I like using it. N On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Won Lee wrote: How dare you suggest VI or that pitiful excuse for an editor, PICO. Isn't it obvious that you are looking for EMACS. On a more serious note, may I ask why you are actually using LINUX as your desktop/wokstation computer? I agree that running CFServer on Solaris or LINUX yeilds better performance, but I don't see any benefits of developing in a LINUX IDE. Perhaps you can fill me in. Won -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio alternative for Linux? visual slick edit On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, BILLY CRAVENS wrote: Quanta is decent as well - Original Message - From: Jesse Noller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: RE: Studio alternative for Linux? http://www.jedit.org is nice. VIM for windows has a CFML layer http://lanzarotta.tripod.com/vim/syntax/cf.vim.zip Jesse Noller Linux Fiend Macromedia Server Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give a man a fish, and he'll pester you to keep giving him fish. Teach a man to fish, and he'll pester you for better fishing theory. --Me, 2001 -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Studio alternative for Linux? Well I went ahead and installed Linux (Mandrake) for the first time in 8 years this past weekend. What a difference from the Slackware and floppies... Does anyone have any good reccomendations for a code editor for Linux that has tag insight, ftp, and some of the other nicer features of Studio? ...and if anyone says VI I'm going to scream :) jon ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
Look at all the good they have done. And what would that be? You listed all the things that they are already noted before? What good have they done? And please don't say Windows... because that idea just came from somewhere else!!! It was those said 'shady business practices' that got them where they are today... and have put so many other companies out of business, or stopped them being able to compete. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Check out what Gartner is recommending. Drop IIS!
I'll move this over to CF-Community and reply On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 11:35, you wrote: They were responsible for putting the Internet in the homes, which created a large number of jobs. At 07:43 AM 9/26/2001 +1000, you wrote: Look at all the good they have done. And what would that be? You listed all the things that they are already noted before? What good have they done? And please don't say Windows... because that idea just came from somewhere else!!! It was those said 'shady business practices' that got them where they are today... and have put so many other companies out of business, or stopped them being able to compete. ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Developers Desktop.
Hmm, we don't use Win2k, but for what it's worth, this is our setup Our development server is an NT4 server, running CF4.5, IIS and SQL Server etc. However we use jEdit running under Linux on our dev workstations. While this has proved to be more stable, cost effective and reliable for us, it also allows us to test the CF sites under browsers on PC, Mac and Linux. Source control is handled via cvs on the Linux boxes, with the repository on the NT server. We haven't written any C based CFX tags, but we have written Java ones. We use Forte for Java to write these. We don't use MTS. I had a lot of use with it a few years ago, and it nearly sent me bald!! I would imagine they have significantly improved the way it works now though! N on 11/9/01 10:49 AM, Brunt, Michael at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My development strategy on Win2k is CFStudio with a single user version of CFServer locally. Depending on the Win2k version either IIS or Personal Web Server, locally. Then a QA Staging box (or boxes if you're rich) in the same environment as production and as near to production as possible in configuration. Test the hell out of the code on the development boxes and live in the logs before releasing it to QA. I am looking at QUME Content Versioning but haven't used it long enough to make a technically accurate statement. It looks good so far. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 -Original Message- From: Denis Piquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Developers Desktop. Can anyone offer any comments on a standard developers desktop when developing for a MS CF site? In W2K, do you use IIS with CF server loaded locally or on a Network? What type of Source Control do you use? What tool is best when developing cfx_Tags? How about using MTS?? . . . . Thanks, Denis Piquette I.S. Manager 140 Fullarton, Suite 700 London, Ontario 519-672-6703 x212 ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Need your opinion - PLEASE!
For what it's worth Casey, I've been developing with SQL Server, and prior to that Subase, for a number of years now, and I have never heard anyone say that fields should be a space instead of NULL. Personally, I'd leave it as it is!! N on 8/9/01 1:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to your opinions: Currently our database allows nulls on all fields besides primary keys and fields we have specified as wanting a default value. We now have database support outside of ourselves and their opinion is to not allow nulls and have a default value of a blank space. Is there a reason to populate blanks vs. allowing nulls as defaults within any given table. My opinion: If the database has been started with allowing nulls in fields then why change to defaulting blank spaces mid stream and confuse the developers from today moving forward. I need to know if I'm off target here. Your input is greatly valued. Casey Cook ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Newbie Syntax Help
Your syntax should read... CFIF request EQ cat etc N on 9/9/01 4:11 PM, Jeffrey Cohen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help!!! Please!!! OK..I'm new at this, so be kind... I have a pulldown menu, that returns a URL like: marketplace.cfm?request=cat marketplace.cfm?request=twn or marketplace.cfm?request=alpha Then, in marketplace.cfm, I am trying to ORDER BY the variable above, like CFQUERY NAME=GetResults DATASOURCE=Reminder SELECT * FROM customer cfif request = catorder by category/cfif cfif request = twnorder by town/cfif cfif request = alphaorder by busname/cfif /CFQUERY Of course, this blows up! (CAT is Undefined...), even though debugging tell me URL parameters request=cat. How am I supposed to pass a variable from a url to my sql query??? Thanks in advance! Jeffrey ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Off topic posts was (OT?) TomCat vs JRun
And lets face it.. At least this off topic post was still slightly CF related, well, MM related!! I'd actually like to know the answer to the question too.., I looked at Jrun for a while and felt that Allaire had turned it into a bloated product. It was just too complicated to set up, whereas TomCat is supposed to be a lot easier! on 5/9/01 8:22 AM, Shawn Grover at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's clearly marked as OT, why not? Afterall, where else can one find a collective gathering of experts in related fields such as this list provides??? (not claiming to be one of those experts, but they are out there). I find the topics which are marked OT, are related to some aspect of web development, which may or may not help us all out. Just my thoughts. Shawn Grover -Original Message- From: Zac Belado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Off topic posts was (OT?) TomCat vs JRun (OT?) TomCat vs JRun No question at all. Its totally OT. What do people think about the increasing number of off topic posts on this list? Should they be tolerated as long as they are marked as OT? Or should we be actively trying to ensure that the signal to noise ratio on this list stays low by asking that people not post off topic material? ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Problem with Java
Have you added the CFX to the CFX Tags section in the CF Administrator? If you have... Where is your class? For development purposes, and to ensure it's configured properly, I put them in the \cfusion\java\classes folder, then when they are ready to go to live use, I'll put them in the correct folders. on 4/9/01 2:58 PM, David Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All I am trying to use a CFX Java tag and am having problems... I have installed 'Java 2 SDK Standard Edition 1.3.1' and have configured the CF Administrator (within the Java area and the CFX area). Everytime I try to run the page calling the tag I get the following error: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: rapidDiet. Java exception occurred in call to method. I imagine this means the application cannot find the relevant Class, but I am not sure where I am going wrong. When installing the SDK I simply used the standard install without any further modifications. Any ideas out there? Thanks David Lawrence Red 5 Interactive Media FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
HTML Newsletters
I¹m trying to send an HTML newsletter via the CFMAIL tag but am having a few problems. If I simply enter all the HTML code in the tag, it works ok. But I¹d like to use an existing CF page, so that all the Queries run and then send the resulting content. Can this be done, or would I need to embed all the HTML code from the template into the CFMail tag. Should I maybe use CFHTTP to run that newsletter.cfm page to allow all the queries to process, and then send the resulting output?? Thanks for any help/suggestions N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Newsletters
Thanks Tom... I hadn't thought of using CFInclude... Trouble is, I want the included file to process the queries!! And that bit doesn't work. I have a page that when displayed is the newsletter I want to send... I also want to use the same page to send to subscribers... It's the queries that are causing me the problems! :^) on 29/8/01 10:48 AM, tom muck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not a problem. Have you tried it? You can't use a query attribute of CFMAIL tag if you do it that way, but you can use a CFLOOP and send one CFMAIL at a time. It's actually just as fast. I always use a CFINCLUDE to include the coldfusion page as the body. tom Nick Texidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I¹m trying to send an HTML newsletter via the CFMAIL tag but am having a few problems. If I simply enter all the HTML code in the tag, it works ok. But I¹d like to use an existing CF page, so that all the Queries run and then send the resulting content. Can this be done, or would I need to embed all the HTML code from the template into the CFMail tag. Should I maybe use CFHTTP to run that newsletter.cfm page to allow all the queries to process, and then send the resulting output?? Thanks for any help/suggestions N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML Newsletters
Thanks to those that responded. I actually found an easier way than using CFHTTP, Howie. Using Tom's suggestion of using CFINCLUDE in the body of CFMAIL. This meant that I could use that same page, the only thing I did differently was to use CFLOOP as opposed to CFOUTPUT to put the records onto the page that was being included. Thanks again N on 29/8/01 12:36 PM, Howie Hamlin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use CFHTTP to grab the page from your server and then take that content and use it in the newsletter... HTH, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Intelligent Mail Server Join the DevCon community at www.coolfusion.com/devcon - Original Message - From: Nick Texidor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: HTML Newsletters I¹m trying to send an HTML newsletter via the CFMAIL tag but am having a few problems. If I simply enter all the HTML code in the tag, it works ok. But I¹d like to use an existing CF page, so that all the Queries run and then send the resulting content. Can this be done, or would I need to embed all the HTML code from the template into the CFMail tag. Should I maybe use CFHTTP to run that newsletter.cfm page to allow all the queries to process, and then send the resulting output?? Thanks for any help/suggestions N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: webmail
Hi Eric, You could check out www.icewarp.com. They have a POP3 server and a WebMail product. The WebMail should work with any POP3 server though. We bought both and have never had a problem with either. First rate products AND support. I have no affiliation with them, just a VERY satisfied customer! It's about the only part of our setup that I don't have to worry about! Regards Nick on 20/7/01 7:19 AM, Eric J Hoffman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some sort of low-cost/free webmail program that I can toss on our non-profit site...so people can check their email on the web, respond, etc. Thanks! Eric J Hoffman Director of Internet Development Small Dog Design, LLC www.smalldogdesign.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Hi Percy, I've been using Studio and Visual Source Safe together for the last three years (almost), and have never experienced any problems, except the ones that were that were released with CF4.5 when it first came out, where you couldn't see what was checked out and in! I have a two machine network, both running NT4 server. My desktop machine runs Sourcesafe, storing it's repository on a partitioned drive which gets backed up frequently. The files are checked out to the working directories on the 'server' and I work off those. A bit back to front I know, but it's mainly to protect the repository from people attempting to come in from the internet, but also to expose the sites to clients so they can see the development. Works for me!! And I haven't experienced any loss of data or anything similar problems Nick on 17/7/01 12:45 AM, Percy Perez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Access file for Mac users??
VirtualPC is the program, available from Connectix. I've used it quite a bit on my Powerbook, and it works well. You can get VirtualPC with Windows 98/NT or Win2k. on 17/7/01 10:05 AM, Brad Roberts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a program for Mac that will allow you to install Windows software. I've forgoten the name of it, but I work for a publishing company that use Macs. If you still need it, email me off list and I'll ask the guys in my office tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Chuck Hergenroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access file for Mac users?? I emailed a couple friends of mine that are religious MAC guys. They said as far as they know, there is no way to do this. Sorry. Regards, Chuck Hergenroeder -Original Message- From: Jeff Fongemie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Access file for Mac users?? Hello cf-Talk, I have a simple Access database running a small website. Can a Mac user download the access MDB file and open it?? Since Microsoft does not make Access for the MAC, what alternatives do I have to make the actual file available so he can open it? Anyone know of a Mac program that will open a MDB file?? I can convert it to a CSV file, and he can use that, but we'd like to take me out of the loop. Best regards, Jeff Fongemie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Guns For Hire (603) 356-0768 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Access file for Mac users??
Excel 2001 has an option to Get External Data. It also has an ODBC plugin. So I can only assume that if there is an Access ODBC driver available for the Mac you could also do it that way. I only have a SQL Server driver for ODBC on this Mac, so I can't test any further on that idea. on 17/7/01 1:11 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Excel can Get External Data from Access databases in Windows. There *is* Excel for Mac, and this might be an option. That's from the hip, I have no way to test it, but if it works you can package an Excel template that queries the Access database and then redisplays the information. HTH Hatton Humphrey -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access file for Mac users?? There's a program for Mac that will allow you to install Windows software. I've forgoten the name of it, but I work for a publishing company that use Macs. If you still need it, email me off list and I'll ask the guys in my office tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Chuck Hergenroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access file for Mac users?? I emailed a couple friends of mine that are religious MAC guys. They said as far as they know, there is no way to do this. Sorry. Regards, Chuck Hergenroeder -Original Message- From: Jeff Fongemie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Access file for Mac users?? Hello cf-Talk, I have a simple Access database running a small website. Can a Mac user download the access MDB file and open it?? Since Microsoft does not make Access for the MAC, what alternatives do I have to make the actual file available so he can open it? Anyone know of a Mac program that will open a MDB file?? I can convert it to a CSV file, and he can use that, but we'd like to take me out of the loop. Best regards, Jeff Fongemie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet Guns For Hire (603) 356-0768 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Client variable storage - confused person here!
Hey Mike, Sorry for changing the topic slightly, but I noticed you mentioned your hosting problems. I've been having major problems of late with the hosts I use. I used Cyberhost for most of my sites, but when they sold out to iAsiaWroks things started to go a bit awry. Then when OzHosting took over, it all went out the window. I waited nearly six weeks for a site to be setup, and ended up telling them to go jump. The guys that started up Cyberhost have apparently started up another business because a) they heard a lot of complaints from their old clients, and b) they were unhappy with the way it went after selling out. Anyway, the upshot is, they are able to offer CF hosting again. The support I had with them in the past was great, I haven't found many others to be as responsive. And their prices are affordable. I'm not selling anything here... I have just been through all these problems, and I thought I'd mention it to you out of courtesy! All the best, and good luck with your other problems!! Nick on 16/7/01 12:26 PM, Mike Kear at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you guys can help me, because I'm a newbie to multi-server clustered environment and I'm getting more confused every day as I try to wrestle with client variables, only to find every turn I take leads me to a dead end street. I have no access to the administrator, the registry or anything at all central. In fact it takes a week or more to get a response from the system administrator (which is another story that's giving me food for thought about where I host my sites!) I have to implement an authentication system on a site where I have to use client variables, because it's a cluster environment, and I am not allowed to rely on any central variable storage. So that means I have to use cookies, and a table in my SQLServer7 datasource to keep track of all the CFIDs and CFTOKENS. (Is that correct? If not I'm barking up the wrong tree entirely!) Therefore, I have to create a table in my datasource to keep hold of all the sessions. What fields should I have in my table if all I want to do is just identify one user session from another?If I want to hold the levels of access data too, should I keep that in there or go back to the users table every page looking for that info? And how do I maintain this table so it doesn't just get bigger and bigger forever? Cheers, Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP WebWorks ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: checkbox!
With the check box fields, make sure the value is set to 1.
Then when adding the record, you need to do a CFIF test to see if the
checkbox is checked...
INSERT INTO YourTable (accessArray)
VALUES ('CFIF IsDefined(Checkbox1)1CFELSE0/CFIF|CFIF
IsDefined(Checkbox2)1CFELSE0/CFIF|CFIF
IsDefined(Checkbox3)1CFELSE0/CFIF')
Etc etc. Alternately, you may want to name the fields Access_1, Access_2
etc, and then loop over them.
Hope this helps a little
Nick
on 16/7/01 1:47 PM, Melly Masram at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys..i have a problem to insert values 1 and 0 into a
database. I want the insert values to be like below:-
1|0|1|1|0 -this value will be insert to a field
name AccessArray. The value 1 and 0 depends on the
user choice when he/she tick the checkbox value.
Could you guys help me,as soon as possible!
Thanz
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Java Custom Tags and JAR files
Hi, I have a Java Custom Tag that is made up of approximately 12 classes. Does anyone know whether I can JAR these classes to make it easier to deploy, and how to configure CF to pick up the main Java Custom Tag class from a JAR file? TIA Nick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
We also have about 80% of our sites on shared servers, while the other 20% are mainly ColdFusion dedicated servers. It is smaller development companies like ours that could potentially be affected by the changes to the hosting licensing. BUT WAIT... Maybe we won't have to change our plans and investments just yet... A while ago, on this list, someone posted about a product called TagFusion, which has since had to change it's name to TagServlet (www.tagservlet.com), this could be an option for us. I have not tried the product out, but will look further into this. It would mean that we can still use our beloved, rapid, ColdFusion, without having to rush out and learn yet another language. I'd say a lot of the enterprise features of CF won't be found in TagServlet, but then are the smaller web development companies looking for those? If we want them, they are generally going to be used in an enterprise environment in which case a dedicated server will be used, and therefore no crazy hosting licensing! Has anybody tried TagServlet? Can anyone comment on it? N on 4/29/01 9:30 AM, Massimo, Tiziana e Federica at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the enterprise side of things, is anyone using PHP for enterprise-wide applications? If not, why not? Not only because I don't do enterprise-wide applications but also because scalability in PHP is very limited, no support for cluster etc... PHP is a very nice and still young tool, that is getting better, but, again, if you look at it, you can see that, for example, that session variables were added just on PHP 4, less than a year ago, and the way they works doesn't lend itself very well to scalability... As for me, 80% of my job on web applications is about small websites where I use CF and Access and rely on hosting companies for a decent service at 20-30$ a month. A crucial point for me to keep using CF instead of ASP (as the vast majority of my competitors) is that it doesn't add any additional costs for hosting if compared to ASP. The other 20% of my job is about larger apps, with SQL Server and CF, there some additional costs in hosting shouldn't cause me too much troubles, right now I am in the 50-100$ range, and my larger customers can live with it, maybe even with something more, but this is true only for the larger customers, higher costs on ISPs could easily make me move the smaller apps to a Unix/PHP/MySql solution, definitely cheap, not that easy to handle for my junior coworkers but also with some advantages (Unix stability, for most things MySql ways better than Access, great choice on ISPs). Well, I was learning PHP/MySql anyway, I think I will never stop loving CF, but I hope I will not see ISP's dropping support for it or asking too much money, in meantime, I will wait to see how things evolve. I live in a very small region (the italian part of Switzerland) where the vast majority of customers are local, small size companies, but I don't think I am alone in a similar scenario, depending a lot on the kind of hosting services ISPs can offer. Massimo Foti [EMAIL PROTECTED] My own Corner of the web http://www.massimocorner.com Dreamweaver, Ultradev and Fireworks goodies It should be this hole in the ozone layer But I am not the coder I use to be... ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated
Oh man, This is great news. Thanks Jeff! And so good to know that this list probably had an impact on this decision!! As for those few that said they didn't want to get involved in the discussions about the licensing changes, price increases and the future of CF I hope they now appreciate the importance of discussing these things on the list, because if we HAD listed to your advice and kept quiet... Then this turn around WOULDN'T have happened!!! Now put away those PHP/ASP books... We've got some coding to get on with Thanks MM! N on 4/30/01 8:56 AM, Jeff Whatcott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on valued feedback from the community, we have changed our licensing plans for shared server hosting with ColdFusion Server 5. Here's what you need to know: 1.We do not plan to offer a Hosting Service Provider Edition of ColdFusion Server 5 at this time 2.We plan to license the Professional and Enterprise editions of ColdFusion Server 5 in a way that allows you to provide shared server hosting services 3.We plan to introduce the Professional and Enterprise editions of ColdFusion Server 5 with the same pricing as the 4.5 release The broad availability of high quality, affordable ColdFusion hosting services is important to the continued growth and success of the ColdFusion community. We recognize the role of our partners in making this happen, and we encourage partners who offer hosting services to participate our hosting partner programs, including the Hosting Certification Program. Your involvement will help us better meet your needs in the future. One of the most exciting things about the ColdFusion Server 5 release is that it was conceived based on suggestions and feedback from the ColdFusion developer community. We rely on your continued involvement. Keep it coming. If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions regarding the ColdFusion business, including licensing and pricing issues, feel free to email me anytime. And as you start using ColdFusion Server 5 in the months ahead, be sure to send your ideas for new features and functionality to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Don't panic literally this time! Check the latest message to this list from Macromedia... The hosting licensing isn't going to happen... Nor is the price increase! on 4/27/01 9:56 AM, Edward Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. We've got about 50 applications running (load balanced) across about 15 CF servers, and if I have to get 20 new licenses for every harebrained app we put together, we're done with CF. It's been a lot of work justifying our continued use of CF anyway. Some of the new features of 5.0 have help us keep it around, but if licensing changes, well, we're not renewing our subscriptions, and are going to move everything to ATGDynamo. MMAllaire should just go all the way with licensing and implement power units, or a per-user pricing like Broadvision... - Original Message - From: Angél Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License OUCH! I don't care if they lower pricing..but the one thing I like about CF is being able to host multiple apps from one server with no worries about Per use, or Per application. If we have to go through anything further in terms of licensing, or cost, or managing all this stuff then I'm afraid CF will lose a great deal of its attractiveness for me, and it will be time to start looking elsewhere for Rapid web application development. :-\ *sigh* I don't think I like how this merger is turning out. -Gel -Original Message- From: zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Or makes it easier to not use the technology at all. Look at the effect of their price increases on the use of Generator. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Australian Macromedia partner
Yes, I know Firmware VERY well, and it was them that told me that Macromedia didn't have a Partner Program like the Allaire one that we are in. Wrong. They have FirmwareDesign (http://www.firmware.com.au). -Original Message- From: Nick Texidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2001 00:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this was... Macromedia don't even have a partner program of any sort. At least not available here in Australia. So that could indicate that there isn't much of a 'Developer Community' within Macromedia! ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Don't Panic
Another thought that came into my head.. ouch... was that of the current sites written in 4.5 that are hosted on these shared boxes. What happens (if ) when MM goes ahead with these plans, and the shared hosts stop supporting CF4.5? That's going to leave the owners of the sites with a smallish problem, and the developers are going to be stuck with having to redevelop them in an alternate language, or moving them to a CF5 host, at an increased cost to the developer. Ok.. not a particularly nice thought... and could be off track... but something else for our company to consider for the future. So now I have to decide whether to move back to ASP, or continue with Servlets/JSP. At least servlets/jsp is something that will run under CF6 if it's worth going back to it later! Who knows! Ok.. will stop rambling now! Sorry to waste yer time! N Even so it looks bad for shared hosting. If you have a dedicated box fine, just keep on with pro or enterprise. (Having a server all to yourself is better anyway), However, for the shared hosts I see them dropping CF to support PHP, ASP whatever. I fear MM has truly shot it's self in the foot Rick - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Don't Panic Without going into exact details let me say that we, the CF developers who either own a box or rent one (not shared) have nothing to worry about. Put down that PHP book now! Even those on a shared server shouldn't worry overly. The FAQ will be out from A/MM, you'll have your info and things will be peaceful in the world again. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Don't Panic
But there will come a point when they will no longer support CF4.5, because MM will have dropped support for it. I know this is in the distant future.. but still something that we have to consider (we, being our business) when deciding what to do that is best for our future. What happens (if ) when MM goes ahead with these plans, and the shared hosts stop supporting CF4.5? If they already provide CF services then they've already spent the money and have income flowing from it. Hard to see them suddenly dropping CF when they can just choose not to upgrade? Ken ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this was... Macromedia don't even have a partner program of any sort. At least not available here in Australia. So that could indicate that there isn't much of a 'Developer Community' within Macromedia! One of the main strengths of CF has always been its developer community. MANY, MANY improvements came from them. I wonder how MM quantifies Developer Community and Developer Community Good Will in its cost/benefit analysis whose goal is to maximize profits. best, paul At 05:15 PM 4/26/01 -0700, you wrote: i agree with your latter sentiments. we've been developing more and more non-CF (jsp, php, asp) applications for a variety of reasons. and now i'm very, very glad. i also agree this doesn't appear to be headed in a positive direction, but i suppose we need to wait and see what MM comes up with. like you, i hope they consider this very carefully. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Totally agree with your comments on Generator... I looked at early versions of it, then when it came out, couldn't afford to purchase it either. We are a small web development company, who were priced out of Generator, and with Macromedias track record, I can see us being priced out of ColdFusion too. Are Macromedia only interested in targeting the 'large' web development companies out there?? (With the current state of our dollar, 'out there' = the US). Maybe I'll be proved wrong. but I doubt it. On Friday, April 27, 2001, at 07:08 AM, zac wrote: AngÈl Stewart wrote: If we have to go through anything further in terms of licensing, or cost, or managing all this stuff then I'm afraid CF will lose a great deal of its attractiveness for me, and it will be time to start looking elsewhere for Rapid web application development. Which is exactly what happened with Generator. I was playing with the developer edition of it when it came out but then they increased the licence costs through the roof and I had no real choice about using it anymore. You would think that a company that has basically built itself via small-scale individual developers would know better than try to make these immediate, short term gains at the expense of long term usability but it appears that they don't. Pricing products with institutional or corporate users in mind ultimately just kills off the support of smaller developers. (qualified of course with the caveat that I am not totally sure of the exact nature of the pricing changes but that I am just being pessimistic) -- Remember, what we do here might seem like criminal fraud but its not. Its marketing! Scott Adams email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.pixelgeek.com/ ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
And the ironic thing is, that the Allaire brothers always stated they wouldn't loose a ColdFusion sale on the price!!! The price of ColdFusion over the last couple of years has gone through the roof... even more so with our crappy dollar. If this is the case for CF5, then I can see a lot of people down under giving CF the flick. As good and quick as it is, it's not going to go anywhere if people can't afford to use it. On Friday, April 27, 2001, at 04:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a real interesting line from the announcement: The ColdFusion 5 Enterprise and Pro End-User License will no longer permit multiple ColdFusion applications and/or sites to be hosted on a single ColdFusion server. What the heck does this mean? What is the definitiion of multiple CF applications? If I create more than one application on a server then I need to pay more $$$? If that's true, we won't be moving to CF5. Sorry, Macromedia, but that would be a bad, bad licensing ploy on your part. I'm sure we're not unique in hosting about 20 CF sites of our own on one server. Ron Allen Hornbaker President/CTO Humankind Systems, Inc. http://humankindsystems.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..∏_∏.∑¥Ø) http://www.BookCrossing.com ~ Read and Release! (Ø`∑.∏_∏. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
But the small development companies, particularly outside the US where bandwidth is a lot more expensive, cannot afford to host their own machines, and so we rely on virtual hosts like the CFHosting and the Cyberhost etc etc. If we will have to pay extra for our sites to be hosted on these servers, to cover the cost of licensing, then we will have to rethink our 'commitment' to ColdFusion. The majority of our client choose to use virtual servers for obvious reasons, and because they don't have the resources to host or maintain in-house. If these restrictions and costs get imposed on the Host providers, then they are going to be passed on to us, and then our clients, who are simply going to say that XYZ company are going to write in ASP/PHP/JSP and hosting is going to be a fraction of the cost. It already costs more to have a CF site hosted than an ASP site... How much more is this going to make it?? For the individuals on this list, it may not be a worry... For the small development companies, it could well be. And we are talking about Macromedia See the references in other messages to Generator. Priced out of the small-business league. Macromedia are in it for the money, and this is a concern that I've had since the merger. on 4/27/01 1:04 PM, Michael Dinowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should look at the original post again and calm down a bit. Notice how they say Hosting Service Providers? They're not talking about me with my 3 domains on a machine. They're not talking about you with your 2 or whatever domains on your machine. They're talking about CFHosting.com, who are defined as a business that provides hosting. They're talking about businesses, not people. While I could be wrong on this, I don't think I am. Relax. We'll see how it goes, but jumping to conclusions and thinking that we have to do the unimaginable (going to asp or perl) is not needed. ColdFusion will be here for us and I think that A/MM will see us for what we are, an asset to ColdFusion. We've just got to relax. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: encrypt/decrypt
Apparently though, these are not recommended for use as there is no guarantee they will be included in the next versions of CF. on 10/04/01 5:10, Lewis Steven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also use: cfusion_encrypt() and cfusion_decrypt(). cfusion_encrypt() encrypts the text to numbers and it is DB safe. Steve Will Swain wrote: Thanks Zach, I'll have a look at that Cheers Will -Original Message- From: Zachary S. Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 April 2001 19:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: encrypt/decrypt -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The values that the CF Encrypt function creates usually aren't safe to put into a database -- they're binary values if my memory serves correctly. The error you're getting is because Decrypt throws an error if the value it gets isn't a valid value made by the Encrypt functions. Before you put your values into the DB, you need to convert them to text only values. URLEncodedFormat() would work. ToString() would probably work too. Then when you pull the value back out of the DB, you just URLDecode() it. I'm not sure how you turn ToString() back to it's original form. I thought it was ToBinary() or something, but I don't see that in my quickref book To guard against crashes b/c of modified, corrupted values, just surround your Decrypt() function call in a CF Try block handle it accordingly. !--- Encryption: --- Cfset Gibberish = URLEncodedFormat(Encrypt(Secrect, Password) cfquery name="DontTellAnyone" blah INSERT INTO Table (Secret) VALUES( '#Gibberish#' /cfquery !--- Decryption: --- Cfquery name="GetSecret" blah SELECT Secret FROM Table WHERE ... /cfquery Cftry cfset Secret = Decrypt(URLDecode(GetSecret.Secret), Password) cfset DecryptOK = True Cfcatch type="any" cfset DecryptOK = false /cfcatch /cftry cfif DecryptOk CfoutputThe secret word is: #Secret#/cfoutput cfelse cfoutputSomething broke.../cfoutput /cfif Hope that's helpful. Best regards, Zac Bedell -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: encrypt/decrypt Hi guys, Got an interesting one here. I am encrypting some details before entering them in a databse, then decrypting them as the authorised views them. However, I am getting this error on decryption: Error Diagnostic Information An error occurred while evaluating the expression: decryptednumber = decrypt(encryptednumber, numberkey) Error near line 25, column 8. -- -- The value to be decrypted is not valid This is the code I have in that location. Interestingly, decrtypting the name doesn't seem to cuase a problem: cfset numberkey = "eagles" cfset namekey = "selhurst" cfset encryptedname = #getdetails.name# cfset encryptednumber = #getdetails.number# cfset decryptednumber = decrypt(encryptednumber, numberkey) cfset decryptedname = decrypt(encryptedname, namekey) This is the code on another page that encrypts the values: cfset numberkey = "eagles" cfset namekey = "selhurst" cfset encryptednumber = encrypt(value_number, numberkey) cfset encryptedname = encrypt(value_name, namekey) Any ideas on this anyone?? TIA Will Swain ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: MAC problem
Hi Jay, I'm using a G3 Powerbook running Mac OS 9.04, and have checked with IE5, Netscape 4.74 and Opera 5 TP1... It seems to be working fine for me! N on 24/03/01 9:24, Jay Wigginton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am having reports from MAC users that they are unable to access one of my web sites... they say the page never loads, loads partially, and other errors... would anyone on the list that has a MAC test this site for me and replay off the list whether it loaded and what type MAC, O/S, browser type and browser version please? It would be truly appreciated... :) The URL is... http://www.emarketingmag.com thanks Jay ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Newbie question - query by month
You need to specify the database column in the where clause.
So for example, if the database column is called Month, then you need to say
WHERE Month = #Datepart(m, completedate)#
Or
WHERE Month = #Month(completedate)#
HTH
N
on 23/03/01 8:12, Francis, Jennifer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a date field (completedate) stored in my database. I want to be able
to pull out all of the records by a selected month for a month-end report.
Is there an easy way of doing this? I've tried
where datepart('m', completedate)='#month#'
but I keep getting an "invalid column name" error.
Any help would be MUCH appreciated...
Jennifer Francis
ATT Wireless
Training Development Design
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Re: session time out
Yes, check the settings in CF Administrator. I ran into the same problem just the other week!! CF Administrator lets you to set the maximum, and no matter what is in the CFAPPLICATION tag it'll always be over-ridden by what's in the Administrator. HTH N on 22/03/01 7:52, Chang Liu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I tried to use: cfapplication name="the name" sessionmanagement="yes" sessiontimeout=#createtimespan(0,1,0,0)# for one hour time out, but it still keeps 20 mins time out. any ideas and suggestions? thanks in advance! ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Pros and Cons on using MS Visual SourceSafe for managing CF p rojects?
I've been using VSS for years now, back from my VB coding days, and I've been using the integration with CF Studio since I started CF coding. I'm yet to experience any problems. I lie... I had a problem with CF4.5 when it first came out where it wasn't updating the checked out status, but I've certainly never lost any code or corrupted any projects using it. Make sure that you keep all the files in your web folder as well as checking them in, i.e. DON'T select the preference to delete files when you check them back in to VSS. This will ensure that you have a copy of the project in VSS and also on the disk. And I guess the usual advice... Take backups!!! Sorry Russell, but two weeks without a backup? ;^) Man, I'm lucky to go a week without backing up nowadays... I've had too many of those... 'OH F*#K' moments!!! Incidentally, I haven't had a single one since I've been using VSS. N on 21/03/01 7:09, Paul Sizemore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use VSS as standalone, do not integrate into Studio. You will be using Alt-Tab a lot, but your life will be safe and productive. Also you might want to search the archives; a lot has been written about VSS. Paul -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pros and Cons on using MS Visual SourceSafe for managing CF projects? In my opinion, VSS is a good tool for managing source code. However, I would never integrate it with CF Studio projects. I had done this and the result was 5 corrupt projects and the loss of 2 weeks of work. HTH. Russel Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you. -Original Message- From: river [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Pros and Cons on using MS Visual SourceSafe for managing CF projects? It's a bit off topic, but I'd like to get a feedback on the use of Microsoft Visual SourceSafe for managing CF projects. I've been asking people and most of them say they use the software to manage web projects. Now with CF projects what would be the pros and cons of using the software?? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: A newbiw question to the masters
You either need to put QUERY="blahblahblah1" in the CFOUTPUT tag, or you need to qualify the parameters, ie, if #id1# (or preferably, #form.id1#) EQ #blahblahblah1.ID# HTH N on 20/03/01 11:22, Roadrunner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello masters, I'm new to Cold Fusion and have been doing my homework. Here's the scenario and it's very simple. A password and an id is being entered via the form. That info is being compared against a database with two columns one column called ID the other PASSWORD. I only have one record in that database with an id and a password. I want to check the form data against the database data and if they are the say they are and if they are not say they are not. SIMPLE! Well, not for me! Sad but true. I have one cfm page that contains a form like so: html headtitleentrance/title/head body form action="hobnobber.cfm" method="post" enter in your id:input type="text" name="id1"br enter in your password:input type="text" name="password1"br input type="submit" /form /body /html Here's hobnobber.cfm: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" htmlheadtitleTEST COLD FUSION/title/head body bgcolor="Olive" cfquery name="blahblahblah1" datasource="blahblahblah2" dbtype="ODBC" SELECT ID,PASSWORD FROM Table2 /cfquery cfoutput cfif (#id1# is #ID#) AND (#password1# is #PASSWORD#) your id and password are correct CFELSE your id and password are not correct /cfif /cfoutput /body /html Could someone throw me a bone here? :) You can see the error by tryiing this at http://portcityportlandmaine.com/entrance.cfm Thanks, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Date/Time Nightmare
Hi Yvette,
Does this work for you?
form
Date:
SELECT name="date"
cfset startweek_dt = #Now()#
cfloop index="ii" from="0" to="6"
cfset startweek_dt = DateAdd('d',ii, startweek_dt)
CFOUTPUT
OPTION value="#startweek_dt#"#DateFormat(startweek_dt, '
DD,')#/OPTION
/cfoutput
/cfloop
/SELECT
/form
Nick
on 19/03/01 9:46, Yvette Ingram at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John:
Thanks.
This is closer. I tried this and it still only gets me 3/19/01 through
3/24/01. I need 3/18/01 through 3/24/01.
form
Date:
SELECT name="date"
cfset startweek_dt = #Now()#
cfloop index="ii" from="1" to="6"
cfset startweek_dt = DateAdd('d',1, startweek_dt)
CFOUTPUT
OPTION value="#startweek_dt#"#DateFormat(startweek_dt, '
DD,')#/OPTION
/cfoutput
/cfloop
/SELECT
/form
Yvette Ingram
Brainbench Certified ColdFusion 4.5 Programmer
Email: ingramrecruiting@erols or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 21200397
- Original Message -
From: "John Wilker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: Date/Time Nightmare
what about:
CFSELECT
cfloop index="ii" from="1" to="6"
cfset startweek_dt = DateAdd('d',1, startweek_dt)
CFOUTPUTOPTION
value="#startweek_dt#"#startweek_dt#/OPTION/cfoutput
/cfloop
/CFSELECT
then dateformat then to look like you need them to respectively.
J.
John Wilker
Web Applications Consultant
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
Office: 909-943-8428
www.billtracker.org http://www.billtracker.org
-Original Message-
From: Yvette Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 1:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Date/Time Nightmare
hello,
I "REALLY" need help on this.
Here's the problem:
The Code:
cfset startweek_dt = #Now()#
cfloop index="ii" from="1" to="6"
cfset startweek_dt = DateAdd('d',1, startweek_dt)
cfoutput#startweek_dt#/cfoutputbr
/cfloop
Produces this:
{ts '2001-03-19 16:39:43'}
{ts '2001-03-20 16:39:43'}
{ts '2001-03-21 16:39:43'}
{ts '2001-03-22 16:39:43'}
{ts '2001-03-23 16:39:43'}
{ts '2001-03-24 16:39:43'}
I can't get 3/18/01 through 3/24/01 passed correct through the select box.
Can I or how do accomplish this.
Yvette Ingram
Brainbench Certified ColdFusion 4.5 Programmer
Email: ingramrecruiting@erols or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 21200397
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Java Custom Tags (again!)
Hi, I have a Custom Tag written in Java and half a dozen additional classes that the tag uses. I was wondering whether it was possible to put any, or all, of these classes into a JAR file. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Nick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Target form results to a frame
you can add the TARGET="framename" in the FORM tag. From: "Jeff Davis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:25:39 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Target form results to a frame I know this isn't really a CF question, but does anyone know how to target the results of a form submission to a specific frame? Jeff Davis ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Strengths of each
Hi Terry, To answer your first question, yes, CF and ASP can coexist on the server, there are no problems having a mix of ColdFusion and ASP pages within a site, however, I'm pretty certain you can forget sharing Session and Application variables between these environments. But you could pass variables through on URL's. We tend to write CF only sites now, while we used to be mainly ASP developers, however we've never needed to mix the two. Hope this helps a little bit. Feel free to contact me off list if you have any further questions. Nick From: "Terry Troxel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:09:31 -0800 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Strengths of each I am posing a question that has been rattling around in my mind for awhile. My host runs on O'Reilly WebSite Pro, so I have zero exposure to IIS and maybe that is why I m in the dark. I would like to know if CF and ASP can co-exist and possibly trade data like CF does with javascript, WAP, etc. The second part of my question is if this is possible has anyone compiled a list of what types of procedures, functionality is best handled by which. If these questions are true then I have to get onto an IIS host, and start learning ASP to broaden my skills. I assume this is the path alot of you have taken by the frequency of ASP and CF in your signatures. Terry Troxel ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: [End session on browser close]
Thanks for the code Alex
Where does this code go?
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:31:38 CST
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [End session on browser close]
!---Kill Session on Browser Close---
cfif IsDefined("Cookie.CFID") AND IsDefined("Cookie.CFTOKEN")
cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID
cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN
cfcookie name="CFID" value="#cfid_local#"
cfcookie name="CFTOKEN" value="#cftoken_local#"
/cfif
"David Berger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can you kill the session when the browser is closed, or the user leaves
your site?
(In ASP, the session ends when you close the browser)
I've looked at the Allaire developers exchange and a number of people had
the same question, but nobody had responded with an answer.
Thanks,
David J. Berger
Senior Web Developer
Cynergy Consulting
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Re: Referential Integrity
In a performance tips seminar that Ben Forta gave, he said that referential integrity was best left in the database rather than coding it yourself. Then use CF to catch the errors. Having said that, for deletes, I still check to see if children exist!!! From: "Cyrill Vatomsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:48:57 -0800 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Referential Integrity HI, My question is whether it is better to write CF routines to maintain referential integrity of the database (say, hiding a delete button or checkbox if child records exist in another table) or to set up "Preserve Referential Integrity" rules in MS access and try to catch errors? Which leads me to a theoretical question: should I rely more on built-in database functions or on CF? Thanks, Cyrill ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
To ADDTOKEN or not
Hi, Just wondering what the opinions were on the list regarding setting ADDTOKEN to "YES" in a CFLOCATION call? I've experienced problems with ISP's caching pages before, and this has been a fix for it. However, there are also some tags that have been sent to this list about how to stop a page being cached. Which is the better method? Also, if you've developed a site and used ADDTOKEN="YES" in all the CFLOCATION calls, have you also used the CFID and CFTOKEN parameters on all the A HREF links?? Thanks Nick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: advanced list
I second that too. I have no problems using the delete key. And it's been the source of some great help, suggestions and ideas in the past. I'd prefer to see it continue as is. From: Chad Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:16:15 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: advanced list I have to agree. I like the list the way it is. We all have delete keys. Let the list live as is. At 08:36 PM 2/17/01 -0700, you wrote: At 8:27 PM -0500 2/17/01, Michael Dinowitz wrote: OK, I've heard the call for an advanced list and I I'll see what I can do Michael I like the cf-talk list the way it is. I am a member of several moderated lists and they leave a lot to be desire. Sometimes, something appears on the cf-talk list, that is a little unexpected treasure... often it is OT... It more than compensates for the ones that are not of interest (to me)... delete key fixes taht. I wish you success with the new list, I will subscribe. I hope that the heavyweight contributors will still participate in cf-talk! Dick ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Java CFX Tags
Hi, Due to some problems I'm experiencing with CFHTTP, I'm having to look at writing a CFX tag to achieve something I'm trying to do. I'm wondering what the lists experiences are of Java Tags with regards to performance, development etc. tia N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFHTTP
Hi Kevin, A HREF takes you to another page from a link. CFHTTP is used within a CF page to go off and maybe POST information to another page, or get content from a page, and then continue processing back in the same page. From: "Parker, Kevin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:02:39 +1030 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CFHTTP Can't offer a solution but I'm just curious to know how CFHTTP differs from A HREF + Kevin Parker Web Services Manager WorkCover Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.workcover.com p: +61 8 82332548 f: +61 8 82332000 m: 0418 800 287 + -Original Message- From: Martin S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 16 February 2001 8:42:AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFHTTP Hi, I have written a rather complex CFHTTP method POST agent and constantly am receiving the Connection Failure output. My CF file with the cfhttp tag resides on the local host and the page being "POST(ed)" is remote. When display the #CFHTTP.ResponseHeader# the following error is displayed : Error Diagnostic Information Expression result cannot be converted to a string Expressions used inside tags like CFOUTPUT, CFQUERY, CFMAIL, etc. must evaluate to a value that can be converted to a string for output or dynamic text accumulation purposes. Complex objects, such as queries, arrays, and COM/DCOM objects, cannot be represented as strings. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (#CFHTTP.ResponseHeader#), occupying document position (26:1) to (26:23). I then made a simple CFHTTP method = get that requested a blank page on the local computer/local drive and directory. I receive the SAME error. The page being requested just outputs HELLO WORLD..and I still receive the Connection Failure error. I can't figure this out. I have done several other CFHTTP tags before with no problems. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Help setting up ColdFusion JVM
Hi, I'm trying to set up ColdFusion Server 4.5 to run CFX tags written in Java. No matter what I seem to enter in the JVM/Classpath fields in administrator, I seem to always get a 'JVM library cannot be found' error. Can anyone help with how I should set up the server in order to use Java CFX tags?? Thanks N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Check value of form check box for CFMAIL
I think you'll need to check that it's defined (IsDefined("checkbox"))
first... otherwise the if test will fail if it hasn't been checked.
I may be wrong though!! :^)
From: "Kevin Mansel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:48:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: Check value of form check box for CFMAIL
Jeff,
If you want to test if it has been checked you can do it this way...
input type=checkbox value="bannerad" name="checkbox"
cfif #FORM.checkbox# IS "bannerad"
I want banner ads
/cfif
Kevin Mansel
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Re: error?
Hi Jay, I'm not sure this is the code that's causing the error, can you paste in a bit more from the page. Especially the bit just after the CFQUERY. Thanks From: "Jay Patton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:12:30 -0700 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: error? no problem... this works fine localy but not on the web. its reffering to this query. pretty simple. I have a feeling that this is a server error. cfquery name="GetNames" datasource="rodeo" dbtype="ODBC" SELECT * FROM ContestantManager ORDER BY LastName /cfquery Jay Patton Web Pro USA 406.549.3337 ext. 203 1.888.5WEBPRO www.webpro-usa.com - Original Message - From: "Chris Maloney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 5:01 PM Subject: RE: error? Jay, if you could include the code that caused the error it would help out. Chris Maloney -Original Message- From: Jay Patton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 5:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: error? has anyone ever seen this error? if so what does it mean? ive never seen it before... Error: Just in time compilation error unknown parser error The last successfully parsed CFML construct was a CFQUERY tag occupying document position (1:1) to (1:8). Thanks, Jay Patton Web Pro USA 406.549.3337 ext. 203 1.888.5WEBPRO www.webpro-usa.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Not letting me update
What type of field is 'sold'? If it is a character field (nvarchar etc) then you need the single quotes around it.. but if it's any of the Integer fields, or Bit etc, then you don't want the quotes. From: "Joshua Tipton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:45:38 -0500 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not letting me update The id is being passed yet I am reciving the error below. Can anyone tell me why. My database id is set to auto number. Joshua Tipton a href="delete.cfm?id=#id#"Delete/a cfquery name="" datasource="gunlist" dbtype="ODBC" UPDATE guns setsold = '1' WHERE (id = '#id#')/cfquery Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Data type mismatch in criteria expression. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Bizarre disappearing page - help!!!
Also cfloop is the second slowest tag in cf. Get rid of the cfloop query="queryName", and just use cfoutput query="queryname". You will speed that program up quite a bit. hmm, apparently, CFLOOP is faster than CFOUTPUT, especially when you are doing a bit more work than simply outputting fields. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFHTTP
Hi, I'm having some problems with CFHTTP and wondered whether anyone may be able to help out. I am trying to post to a secure URL, passing through 4 form fields, but I keep getting a 'Connection Failure' message. If I remove the HTTPPARAM's, and change the method to GET, I still get a failure message. I have tried getting another secure page, however the GET call works, and the POST still fails. Does anyone have any ideas? I am running CF4.5 on NT4 SP6. Any help would be gratefully appreciated! Thanks N ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
