Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Sorry for the piggyback off of this thread, but I am thinking of running the free micro instance for a year thing to test out a project I am working on (nothing in production :D). I don't have much experience in running a server like this, so I am wondering if it is even feasible to run CF9, LCDS and mySQL on a micro instance? Or would I need to upgrade to one of the larger ones? Josh Dura On 1/4/2011 4:43 PM, Richard Steele wrote: Ok, great. I've got my Windows Server Instance up and running! Now I'm downloading the CF8 Developer's Edition. Can I install both CF8 and CF9 Developer's Edition? Our current production server is CF8, but would like to test our code in CF9 before upgrading. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Sorry for the piggyback off of this thread, but I am thinking of running the free micro instance for a year thing to test out a project I am working on (nothing in production :D). I don't have much experience in running a server like this, so I am wondering if it is even feasible to run CF9, LCDS and mySQL on a micro instance? Or would I need to upgrade to one of the larger ones? Memory would be a bit tight for all that, but if you're just going to be hitting it yourself it might work. You'll need to limit CF's memory usage. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
I'm running a low traffic MySQL install on a micro instance. Works very well. But I think you are pushing things in terms of memory with LCDS and CF as well. Worth a try though. Or you could use MySQL on a separate instance, but then again MySQL is your smallest issue I think :-) The great thing is you could try it (I hope you're planning on using *nix for this as Windows will eat even more resources) and if it does not work detach the EBS volume and use a small instance. You do not have to decide up front what instance type you want, you can start with one and then upgrade/downgrade. Stefan On 6 Jan 2011, at 19:31, Josh Dura wrote: Sorry for the piggyback off of this thread, but I am thinking of running the free micro instance for a year thing to test out a project I am working on (nothing in production :D). I don't have much experience in running a server like this, so I am wondering if it is even feasible to run CF9, LCDS and mySQL on a micro instance? Or would I need to upgrade to one of the larger ones? Josh Dura ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
In case you didn't know there is a Windows 2008 core edition available these days which has all the GUI stuff removed and is basically like linux in that you use powershell to control everything. Much smaller footprint and resource usage. Russ -Original Message- From: Stefan Richter [mailto:ste...@flashcomguru.com] Sent: 06 January 2011 19:39 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server I'm running a low traffic MySQL install on a micro instance. Works very well. But I think you are pushing things in terms of memory with LCDS and CF as well. Worth a try though. Or you could use MySQL on a separate instance, but then again MySQL is your smallest issue I think :-) The great thing is you could try it (I hope you're planning on using *nix for this as Windows will eat even more resources) and if it does not work detach the EBS volume and use a small instance. You do not have to decide up front what instance type you want, you can start with one and then upgrade/downgrade. Stefan On 6 Jan 2011, at 19:31, Josh Dura wrote: Sorry for the piggyback off of this thread, but I am thinking of running the free micro instance for a year thing to test out a project I am working on (nothing in production :D). I don't have much experience in running a server like this, so I am wondering if it is even feasible to run CF9, LCDS and mySQL on a micro instance? Or would I need to upgrade to one of the larger ones? Josh Dura ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll give it a shot since its free for the first year for the micro instance and hope for the best. Thanks for the detailed responses all :) Josh On 1/6/2011 1:39 PM, Stefan Richter wrote: I'm running a low traffic MySQL install on a micro instance. Works very well. But I think you are pushing things in terms of memory with LCDS and CF as well. Worth a try though. Or you could use MySQL on a separate instance, but then again MySQL is your smallest issue I think :-) The great thing is you could try it (I hope you're planning on using *nix for this as Windows will eat even more resources) and if it does not work detach the EBS volume and use a small instance. You do not have to decide up front what instance type you want, you can start with one and then upgrade/downgrade. Stefan On 6 Jan 2011, at 19:31, Josh Dura wrote: Sorry for the piggyback off of this thread, but I am thinking of running the free micro instance for a year thing to test out a project I am working on (nothing in production :D). I don't have much experience in running a server like this, so I am wondering if it is even feasible to run CF9, LCDS and mySQL on a micro instance? Or would I need to upgrade to one of the larger ones? Josh Dura ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
In case you didn't know there is a Windows 2008 core edition available these days which has all the GUI stuff removed and is basically like linux in that you use powershell to control everything. Much smaller footprint and resource usage. I don't think that's available on EC2. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340539 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Has anybody got the Amazon AWS EC2 API working with CF? I have not been able to get past the authentication part. I tried reworking the authentication bit from this project (http://awsconsole.riaforge.org/) but can I keep getting the error The provided security credentials are not valid. That project uses the older version of amazons API and amazon says: If you are currently using signature version 1: Version 1 is deprecated, and you should move to signature version 2 as soon as possible. For information about the deprecation schedule and the differences between signature version 2 and version 1, go to Making Secure Requests to Amazon Web Services. The docs for creating the signature are here: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSEC2/2010-11-15/DeveloperGuide/index.htm l?using-query-api.html I can't get past this part.. Anyone got this working? Brook -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: January-06-11 11:56 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server In case you didn't know there is a Windows 2008 core edition available these days which has all the GUI stuff removed and is basically like linux in that you use powershell to control everything. Much smaller footprint and resource usage. I don't think that's available on EC2. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Hi, Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with setting up an Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Server? We had a Gogrid Server that just disappeared one day. Gogrid had no clue as to why it happened, nor were they willing to troubleshoot. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340403 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Hi Richard, I am interested in this topic too. Setting it up, no problem. Its not too difficult to get it up and running. I made it that far without any issue. Reliability? Not sure. But from my research it looks like you need to ensure you have some failover, like in a regular setup and it looks like best practice is that you have multiple servers in different availability zones. There have been outages with Ec2 where all servers of a particular type just go offline or disappear. This would never happen with regular hardware so you need to plan for stuff like that. There's also a big question mark about consistent throughput. I have read about people complaining about drive throughput working great and then one day just getting really slow. Probably because of noisy neighbours. I am interested to hear about other peoples experiences aswell. Brook -Original Message- From: Richard Steele [mailto:r...@photoeye.com] Sent: January-04-11 10:55 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server Hi, Does anyone have experience (good or bad) with setting up an Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Server? We had a Gogrid Server that just disappeared one day. Gogrid had no clue as to why it happened, nor were they willing to troubleshoot. Thanks in advance. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Did you find a tutorial on how to set up a Windows 2008 server? There's one online for a non-windows server, but I haven't found one for a Windows 2008 server. Also, I know that Amazon has different levels of guarantee for their s3 storage, but it seems like having it backed up to a different location would be wise. Is that easy to accomplish? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340412 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Amazon provides Windows AMIs so it's very easy to set up a Windows Server, it's a matter of minutes. If you run your server using an EBS backed (which I think is now the default standard for Windows) then you can easily take snapshots in order to backup the entire server in one go. Those snapshots can in turn be used as a new EBS volume so you can essentially clone your server very easily. Should your EC2 instance run into problems (maybe the underlying hardware is having a rough day) you can shut it down, detach the EBS volume and attach it to a new instance. It's a bit like moving a hard drive from box to box except you don't have to actually physically move anything... The whole Amazon stack is very powerful. The concept of having your apps effectively detached from the processing power you need is quite something. You can so very easily boot up new instances of your existing volumes, or increase RAM and CPU capacity in a matter of minutes. I would encourage anyone to have a play using one of the micro instances. They cost next to nothing, and in fact are free up to a limit if you are a new AWS customer. Cheers Stefan On 4 Jan 2011, at 19:46, Richard Steele wrote: Did you find a tutorial on how to set up a Windows 2008 server? There's one online for a non-windows server, but I haven't found one for a Windows 2008 server. Also, I know that Amazon has different levels of guarantee for their s3 storage, but it seems like having it backed up to a different location would be wise. Is that easy to accomplish? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340416 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Also, I know that Amazon has different levels of guarantee for their s3 storage, but it seems like having it backed up to a different location would be wise. Is that easy to accomplish? Elastic Block Storage - EBS. http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/ You can take snap shots of your server. Essentially a full back up. I use EBS volumes to store snap shots of my servers that I have set up using various configurations.( i.e. Railo Apache, ACF on IIS etc.) such that I can fire them up at will for testing. I have been running a win 2003 server and Centos (Centos is used on and off) for about a month now with out any issues. If that means anything. It is just a POC/Dev machine. There are others on this list that are much more experienced with running production instances on EC2. Sean Corfield being one of them. I remember Sean mentioning that he had lost a machine and warning people running instances on EC2 should plan for that contingency. HTH, G! On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Richard Steele r...@photoeye.com wrote: Did you find a tutorial on how to set up a Windows 2008 server? There's one online for a non-windows server, but I haven't found one for a Windows 2008 server. Also, I know that Amazon has different levels of guarantee for their s3 storage, but it seems like having it backed up to a different location would be wise. Is that easy to accomplish? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340418 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Ok, great. I've got my Windows Server Instance up and running! Now I'm downloading the CF8 Developer's Edition. Can I install both CF8 and CF9 Developer's Edition? Our current production server is CF8, but would like to test our code in CF9 before upgrading. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340436 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Amazon EC2 Windows 2008 Coldfusion Server
Can I install both CF8 and CF9 Developer's Edition? Yes, you can. But they're not really designed to be installed concurrently, unless you install CF 9 multiserver, then use the CF 8 installer to create an EAR, then deploy that EAR to a new CF instance. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340450 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
