Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Les Mizzell
> That's one reason I like TinyMCE, you can customize it to your needs so
> you're not giving people access to completely break everything.

I've got one client with a TON of admin forms with FCK all over them. 
The client does *everything* in Word and then paste, and that's why we 
went with FCK. Let's face it, for every line of text, Word is going to 
paste another 5 lines of unwanted junk.  Even though FCK is handling the 
Word stuff pretty well, we *still* get calls from the client going "IT'S 
BROKE!! WHAT'S WRONG?!?!?"

"Uh, Dude, quite pasting from Word and that will take care of your problem."

But, this is a big legal firm and they aren't going to do it any other 
way. Period.

We've turned a few FCK features off, as we don't want to give them the 
chance to completely screw everything and the CSS Style sheet running 
the pages that display the stuff they input is downright scary since 
we're trying to override stuff from Word that the FCK Editor Wrod 
Cleanup still leaves in there.

So, I *LIKE* the way TinyMCE looks, and it's certainly lighter and 
faster to load. How's it handle pasting from Word? I've haven't gotten 
around to testing that yet.


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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Irvin Gomez
Toolbars can be configured in FCKEditor, too. And the new version works on a 
couple other browsers.

TinyMCE is very nice, but the lack of image upload and preview is enough for me 
to not use it. My experience is that clients need and love this feature. Rick 
Root developed a "plugin" that kind of solves this problem (it lacks image 
preview).

Perhaps TinyMCE has adressed this, in which case it would make sense to give it 
a second look, because it certainly beats FCKEDitor on presentation alone.


>> -Original Message-
>> From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> 
>> I like FCKEditor v1.6.
>
>FCKeditor v1 only works with IE.
>
>> Version 2 is out with additional features (like form 
>> creation, tables, fonts, colors, etc). Some people love them; 
>> I consider them useless and potentially dangerous
>
>That's one reason I like TinyMCE, you can customize it to your needs so
>you're not giving people access to completely break everything.
>
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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Irvin Gomez
Correction: the features I listed as "new" were there in previous versions. New 
features are flash objects, support for Active FoxPro Pages, etc. 


> I like FCKEditor v1.6.
> 
> Version 2 is out with additional features (like form creation, tables, 
> fonts, colors, etc). Some people love them; I consider them useless 
> and potentially dangerous - if given too many options, users will soon 
> destroy the site's look. (it should be pointed out that you can always 
> configure the editor's toolbar to only include those features you deem 
> appropriate, so using v2 is perfectly ok; I don't use it bacause I 
> don't need any of the extra stuff  and I don't feel like working on 
> the extensive customization needed to make everything work smoothly - 
> a perfect example being the hard-coded upload directories).
> 
> There's no right or wrong approach.
> 
> 
> Look here for a minimalist view and implementation of a different 
> editor (by Massimo Foti, a very knowledgeable guy): 
> 
> http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/tag/tmt_xhtmleditorPro/
> 
> 
> Irvin
> 
> 
> 
> >So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to 
> build
> >our own simple CMS?  I keep hearing FCK lately, but until recently 
> never
> >heard of it.  Others I have heard about, seems no one talks about 
> anymore.
> > 
> > 
> >Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III
> >Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
> >Lone Jet Enterprises
> >Glendale, Arizona
> >www.LoneJet.
com

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RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> I like FCKEditor v1.6.

FCKeditor v1 only works with IE.

> Version 2 is out with additional features (like form 
> creation, tables, fonts, colors, etc). Some people love them; 
> I consider them useless and potentially dangerous

That's one reason I like TinyMCE, you can customize it to your needs so
you're not giving people access to completely break everything.

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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Irvin Gomez
I like FCKEditor v1.6.

Version 2 is out with additional features (like form creation, tables, fonts, 
colors, etc). Some people love them; I consider them useless and potentially 
dangerous - if given too many options, users will soon destroy the site's look. 
(it should be pointed out that you can always configure the editor's toolbar to 
only include those features you deem appropriate, so using v2 is perfectly ok; 
I don't use it bacause I don't need any of the extra stuff  and I don't feel 
like working on the extensive customization needed to make everything work 
smoothly - a perfect example being the hard-coded upload directories).

There's no right or wrong approach.


Look here for a minimalist view and implementation of a different editor (by 
Massimo Foti, a very knowledgeable guy): 

http://www.olimpo.ch/tmt/tag/tmt_xhtmleditorPro/


Irvin



>So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
>our own simple CMS?  I keep hearing FCK lately, but until recently never
>heard of it.  Others I have heard about, seems no one talks about anymore.
> 
> 
>Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III
>Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
>Lone Jet Enterprises
>Glendale, Arizona
>www.LoneJet.com

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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-11 Thread Barney Boisvert
With Tiny's plugin authoring capabilities, integrating an existing
spellchecker is literally like 10 lines of code.  We did that for our
main application, and it was a breeze.  Tiny's also got a built-in
plugin for IESpell (which I've never used), and supports the Google
Toolbar's spellchecker (which works very well - much like GMail's).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/10/05, Roger B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
> > our own simple CMS?
> 
> Until TinyMCE gets native Spellerpages support, I'll consider
> FCKeditor the go-to WYSIWYG editor.
> 
> --
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> http://journurl.com/
> http://admin.support.journurl.com/
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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Roger B.
> So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
> our own simple CMS? 

Until TinyMCE gets native Spellerpages support, I'll consider
FCKeditor the go-to WYSIWYG editor.

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RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Jim Curran
I love Xstandard.

http://www.xstandard.com

- j 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

> -Original Message-
> From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to 
> build our own simple CMS?

I still love TinyMCE.

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RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Damien McKenna
> -Original Message-
> From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who 
> need to build our own simple CMS?

I still love TinyMCE.

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RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Russ Michaels
FCKeditor.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 August 2005 18:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
our own simple CMS?  I keep hearing FCK lately, but until recently never
heard of it.  Others I have heard about, seems no one talks about anymore.
 
 
Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III
Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
Lone Jet Enterprises
Glendale, Arizona
www.LoneJet.com
 






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RE: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Joshua Cyr
I like KTML.  It is cross browser, multiple OS.  The only issue for many
developers is that it requires dreamweaver to first install into your site,
but it is easily made into a custom tag after that to use without
dreamweaver at all.  Their support is pretty good.

http://www.interaktonline.com/Products/KTML/Overview/


I would say that FCKeditor has done a lot lately to catch up in the market,
and is compelling for its price (free).  I have yet to use it, but it looks
good.
http://www.fckeditor.com/

A lot of CMS's use ektron's product.
http://www.ektron.com/web-content-editors.aspx


As for some of the others... Ask when the last major update has been, and
when the next one is coming.  That is as important a factor as any other for
me these days as I have gone through 2 that have simply stopped doing
development.

 

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
our own simple CMS?  I keep hearing FCK lately, but until recently never
heard of it.  Others I have heard about, seems no one talks about anymore.
 
 
Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III
Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
Lone Jet Enterprises
Glendale, Arizona
www.LoneJet.com
 






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Re: Best Rich Text Editor (was: RE: Looking for very simple CMS)

2005-08-10 Thread Barney Boisvert
TinyMCE is my favorite.  Very nice interface, both for the user and
the developer, and extension is a snap.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/10/05, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what is the best Rich Text editor today, for those of who need to build
> our own simple CMS?  I keep hearing FCK lately, but until recently never
> heard of it.  Others I have heard about, seems no one talks about anymore.
> 
> 
> Constanty "Connie" DeCinko III
> Web Architect, Webmaster, Web Developer
> Lone Jet Enterprises
> Glendale, Arizona
> www.LoneJet.com
> 

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