Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Non taken. Thank you all very much for putting in your 2 cents. Very helpful and inciteful. Some of the feedback I get from the marketing division is that the chasier at the food store bypass measures like barcodes. Thank you all again so much. You guys ROCK! D No offense, ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259889 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non taken. Thank you all very much for putting in your 2 cents. Very helpful and inciteful. Some of the feedback I get from the marketing division is that the chasier at the food store bypass measures like barcodes. That's absolutely true because they'd rather just bypass it than argue with the customer. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259895 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Well, this solution wouldn't work for extremely smart people, but if you look into CSS you'll see that you have some options for media types. One type is screen and one is print (I think). You could have a div on the page that shows up blank on the screen and has a background image (the coupon) when printed. You could just do a pop-up window, use javascript to call the print() function of the browser and then close the window after the print function completes. I'd think that should work fairly well. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259795 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
On 11/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D why? I could print that coupon 1000 times on my copier. Put a barcode on your coupon and you wouldn't have this issue. -- Casey Dougall Web Applications Developer Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801 ~~ wWw.TerrainAssassin.cOm - Nov1 2006 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259797 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
It seems you put a lot of effort into looking at this, however to throw Something else up to you: Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259798 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
when I get coupons from Quiznos, I'm allowed to visit the coupon page 3 times. They restrict it because the URL they provide me is specific to me.. the coupons actually say Coupon valid for Rick Root Of course, if you launch a print dialog, nothing prevents you from printing 100 copies. Usually what i do is print to flashpaper, convert to PDF, and then email the coupons to my friends =) an activeX control that bypasses the print dialog completely would probably be the most reliable way to prevent printing the coupon more than once.. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259802 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Why not just do the logic on whether the coupon is displayed instead of whether it's printed? !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER It seems you put a lot of effort into looking at this, however to throw Something else up to you: Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259805 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Adkins, Randy wrote: It seems you put a lot of effort into looking at this, however to throw Something else up to you: Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. The only real way to handle this is to do it the way electronic ticketing is handled. Barcode the coupon with a specific barcode, and then you've got to have a barcode reader connected to a database that knows whether or not a coupon has already been used. Certainly worthwhile for event tickets and gift certificates. Probably not worth it for a coupon to save $1 off a box of wheaties. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Great feedback everyone. Yes the goal is for eveyone to print the coupon once. You're right you could make copies of the coupon. We're just trying to limit the ways folks could get more than one copy. As far as the earlier post about using Javascript to call the popup window and print, the user can control the number of copies to print from the print dialog box. Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) How about a reward for anyone that can come up with a solution? Name your price, within reason of course. 8-) D Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259809 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Put a barcode on your coupon and you wouldn't have this issue. Agreed... or at least a unique code. Either one would accomplish 2 things. 1) Validating the coupon as genuine (and looking up any other info on it like date issued, expiration date and actual discount info to make sure those werent monkey'd with) 2) Ensuring that the same code wasnt used again since you could basically render the coupon invalid once it's code has been returned to the system with the swipe of a barcode or a few keystrokes to enter the unique code. There are a few free barcode fonts out there as well as programs to generate them. It should be pretty simple. -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER On 11/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D why? I could print that coupon 1000 times on my copier. Put a barcode on your coupon and you wouldn't have this issue. -- Casey Dougall Web Applications Developer Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801 ~~ wWw.TerrainAssassin.cOm - Nov1 2006 ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259806 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
I totally agree. For your run of the mill Grocery store coupons, Not worth the effort, but something more vital, yes. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER Adkins, Randy wrote: It seems you put a lot of effort into looking at this, however to throw Something else up to you: Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. The only real way to handle this is to do it the way electronic ticketing is handled. Barcode the coupon with a specific barcode, and then you've got to have a barcode reader connected to a database that knows whether or not a coupon has already been used. Certainly worthwhile for event tickets and gift certificates. Probably not worth it for a coupon to save $1 off a box of wheaties. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259810 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) Where is this coupon, and is it a good one? Maybe i'll just make Flashpaper my default printer ;) then when your little activex control pritns it, I'll get to save it as a pdf, even though I don't get the print dialog. Pfththth! Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
I agree under normal circumstances. However, it's for a major retailer and even though the coupons are $1.00 off, the amount of downloads/prints it a cost control issue that has to be as tight as possible. Is there any other technology besides ActiveC controls of Firefox entensions that I'm not thinking of that would allow me to bypass the print dialog box? Thoughts? Great feedback. Thanks. I totally agree. For your run of the mill Grocery store coupons, Not worth the effort, but something more vital, yes. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259814 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
-Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER when I get coupons from Quiznos, I'm allowed to visit the coupon page 3 times. They restrict it because the URL they provide me is specific to me.. the coupons actually say Coupon valid for Rick Root Of course, if you launch a print dialog, nothing prevents you from printing 100 copies. Usually what i do is print to flashpaper, convert to PDF, and then email the coupons to my friends =) an activeX control that bypasses the print dialog completely would probably be the most reliable way to prevent printing the coupon more than once.. Rick Probably still won't work as you can print it to pdf (and even if you print to a default printer, you can set the pdf printer to be default..) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259812 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Perhaps something along the lines of:
Blank page with 'print button' on it.
Clicking on print button triggers javascript that:
{
turns visibility of Div tag with image of coupon. ;
Window.print();
Turns off div with coupon;
Turns on thankyou div with differnet image;
}
Not perfect as you can print multiple copies at the print dialog. But once
they print it is over and no chance to do it again (cookies or something
also involved).
Getting coupons out to people is really that is what a coupon is for
getting people to a place and measuring it. People want to see lots of
coupons used as it means their mailing, message, advertising is working. If
it is really needing to be unique and limited it needs to be a different
mechanism, like a unique code, ID, etc. Or where they fill out a form and
the specially printed coupon is mailed to them, etc.
Joshua Cyr
Savvy Software
866.870.6358
www.besavvy.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Great feedback everyone.
Yes the goal is for eveyone to print the coupon once. You're right you could
make copies of the coupon. We're just trying to limit the ways folks could
get more than one copy.
As far as the earlier post about using Javascript to call the popup window
and print, the user can control the number of copies to print from the print
dialog box.
Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to
the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the
coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just
doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac.
I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-)
How about a reward for anyone that can come up with a solution? Name your
price, within reason of course. 8-)
D
Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct?
What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to
copy it multiple times? Not able to control that.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
All,
We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for
printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog
box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the
back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so
they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE.
Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement
this for Mac, Firefox etc.?
Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash.
We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it.
D
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Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
If it was an FF extension, wouldn't the end user have to download that, or is it possible to embed an FF extension like an Active X control? I guess you could force them to download the extension if they want to use the coupon. As it's a major retailer I'm kinda surprised they wouldn't want to go the barcoding route. That would give them much better control, and wouldn't cost much up front since conceivably they already have all the hardware and some sort of POS software that could probably integrate coupons. -- Josh - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER I agree under normal circumstances. However, it's for a major retailer and even though the coupons are $1.00 off, the amount of downloads/prints it a cost control issue that has to be as tight as possible. Is there any other technology besides ActiveC controls of Firefox entensions that I'm not thinking of that would allow me to bypass the print dialog box? Thoughts? Great feedback. Thanks. I totally agree. For your run of the mill Grocery store coupons, Not worth the effort, but something more vital, yes. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259819 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
No offense, but I think the level of effort and time hours exhausted on this will be More costly that what it is worth. Again coming back to the conclusion that the end User could print it once, and then copy it multiple times. Thus, using it many times Over. So in the end what would have been accomplished? Printing it once? Big Deal. That's why there are copiers. Now going off what some others have suggested, using a bar-coded format and maybe So sort of way of validating the coupon has been used, then you have a way of controlling The cost that would be issued by the coupon. Again, most of your major grocery stores do not care if you use the same type of coupon Over and over, just on different visits. Still buying the product. They do not care if You are the same person or not. Now taking another approach, like Best Buy, I get the Member Rewards coupons and I am Assuming when those are used, the coupon has my information on the barcode and they also Scan my Reward Zone card. I guess this is their way of saying, yes the person is who they Say they are. I would suggest asking whomever the client is or the Project Manager on this task to see If it is really cost effective to put forth the effort in making it only print once based On the fact that it really wouldn't matter much. Just my $.02 -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) Where is this coupon, and is it a good one? Maybe i'll just make Flashpaper my default printer ;) then when your little activex control pritns it, I'll get to save it as a pdf, even though I don't get the print dialog. Pfththth! Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259821 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
Hey All, OK..I missed the whole thread, so maybe a decent solution has been put forward That said I bet there is no bullet-proof solution. So think about it from the other angle.don't limit the number of prints...limit the number of times the coupon can be used. Fo example...Blockbuster gives out coupons via e-mail that are barcoded. They scan the barcode when it's used.more than once and it won't be accepted. This solution of course depends on the client's ability to scan barcodes at the point of coupon redemption, but it's bullet-proof! my 2 cents Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259822 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
You could make people enter their mailing address and physically send them just one :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER Great feedback everyone. Yes the goal is for eveyone to print the coupon once. You're right you could make copies of the coupon. We're just trying to limit the ways folks could get more than one copy. As far as the earlier post about using Javascript to call the popup window and print, the user can control the number of copies to print from the print dialog box. Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) How about a reward for anyone that can come up with a solution? Name your price, within reason of course. 8-) D Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259825 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
I'm not 100% sure but would a Java Applet allow the same sort of functionality, just cross browser? John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER I agree under normal circumstances. However, it's for a major retailer and even though the coupons are $1.00 off, the amount of downloads/prints it a cost control issue that has to be as tight as possible. Is there any other technology besides ActiveC controls of Firefox entensions that I'm not thinking of that would allow me to bypass the print dialog box? Thoughts? Great feedback. Thanks. I totally agree. For your run of the mill Grocery store coupons, Not worth the effort, but something more vital, yes. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259826 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
They could still copy it multiple times. -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER You could make people enter their mailing address and physically send them just one :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER Great feedback everyone. Yes the goal is for eveyone to print the coupon once. You're right you could make copies of the coupon. We're just trying to limit the ways folks could get more than one copy. As far as the earlier post about using Javascript to call the popup window and print, the user can control the number of copies to print from the print dialog box. Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) How about a reward for anyone that can come up with a solution? Name your price, within reason of course. 8-) D Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
D, Is there anything being done at the time of redemption? Could be as simple as a person validating the coupon itself? I think this is one of those cases where the effort also needs to be focused on the physical process in addition to the systemic process. The web is great, but really cant do everything. ;-) My.02 -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER They could still copy it multiple times. -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER You could make people enter their mailing address and physically send them just one :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER Great feedback everyone. Yes the goal is for eveyone to print the coupon once. You're right you could make copies of the coupon. We're just trying to limit the ways folks could get more than one copy. As far as the earlier post about using Javascript to call the popup window and print, the user can control the number of copies to print from the print dialog box. Right now, for IE users, the ScriptX ActiveX control sends the print job to the printer without the print dialog box showing up or disaplaying the coupon image at all. It's as tight as we can get it for IE users, it just doesn't work on other browsers or a Mac. I told you it was a STUMPER. 8-) How about a reward for anyone that can come up with a solution? Name your price, within reason of course. 8-) D Your goal is for the end user only to print the coupon once, correct? What stops the end user from printing it once, then using a copier to copy it multiple times? Not able to control that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER All, We use MeadCo's ScriptX ActiveX control on our Cold Fusion site for printing coupons from a hyperlink without prompting the print dialog box. This restricts the user from printing coupons twice bu using the back button and with a little Javascript they never see the coupon so they can't to a print screen either. However, it only works with IE. Does anyone know of any solutions or have any ideas how to implement this for Mac, Firefox etc.? Whoever creates the firefox entension for this will make some cash. We'd pay at least a few hundred dollars for it. D ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259830 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER
About the only solution I see is to give each coupon a unique ID and track the ID's as they are brought in along with personal identity info to match to the ID. Person comes in a different coupon, you still have their personal identity info (driver's license) that shows they've used a coupon. A pain to administer...gotta have a database or something, but it would work... Rick -Original Message- From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Print coupon one time - STUMPER They could still copy it multiple times. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:259853 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
