Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-07 Thread Michael Grant

Well he posted in another thread the day after he made his declaration. So
he's alive. Whether he's ok is another thing altogether.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Steven Durette  wrote:

>
> Has anyone heard anything? Is he ok?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Steven Durette

Has anyone heard anything? Is he ok?

Sent from my iPhone




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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Greg Luce

No, not since then. Just haven't had any overflow work to send him.
-- 
Greg Luce
Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
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(863) 273-0289


On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Michael Grant  wrote:

>
> Out of curiosity, do you still work with him?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Greg Luce  wrote:
>
> >
> > FWIW I know Mike comes off a little rough around the edges on the lists
> > here, but a year or 2 ago I had him do a couple of small projects and he
> > knocked them out professionally for a fair wage. Just thought I'd throw
> > that
> > in.
> > --
> > Greg Luce
> > Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
> > www.luceconsulting.net
> > (863) 273-0289
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > > Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know. I sent him a message off-list.
> > >
> > > Aaaand, I meant to send that to YOU off-list, but apparently I haven't
> > > mastered the use of email.
> > >
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > > http://training.figleaf.com/
> > >
> > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Grant

Out of curiosity, do you still work with him?



On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Greg Luce  wrote:

>
> FWIW I know Mike comes off a little rough around the edges on the lists
> here, but a year or 2 ago I had him do a couple of small projects and he
> knocked them out professionally for a fair wage. Just thought I'd throw
> that
> in.
> --
> Greg Luce
> Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
> www.luceconsulting.net
> (863) 273-0289
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
> >
> > > > Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?
> > >
> > > I don't know. I sent him a message off-list.
> >
> > Aaaand, I meant to send that to YOU off-list, but apparently I haven't
> > mastered the use of email.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > http://training.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Greg Luce

FWIW I know Mike comes off a little rough around the edges on the lists
here, but a year or 2 ago I had him do a couple of small projects and he
knocked them out professionally for a fair wage. Just thought I'd throw that
in.
-- 
Greg Luce
Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
www.luceconsulting.net
(863) 273-0289


On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > > Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?
> >
> > I don't know. I sent him a message off-list.
>
> Aaaand, I meant to send that to YOU off-list, but apparently I haven't
> mastered the use of email.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Rick Faircloth

Alright, sounds good!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:48 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Rick,
I got all sorts of different ways to solve the problem and am now in the
Develop mode trying all of them and learning. I will let everyone who helped
Know as soon as I am complete, but it might take a bit.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Terry, did you ever get a solution for your image resolution problem?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Boy I hope my post didn't cause him any issues, and I am serious about that.
If any of you know how to get face to face or at least a phone call, I sure
think it
Is him asking for help.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 









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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Terry Troxel

Rick,
I got all sorts of different ways to solve the problem and am now in the
Develop mode trying all of them and learning. I will let everyone who helped
Know as soon as I am complete, but it might take a bit.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Terry, did you ever get a solution for your image resolution problem?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Boy I hope my post didn't cause him any issues, and I am serious about that.
If any of you know how to get face to face or at least a phone call, I sure
think it
Is him asking for help.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 







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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-06 Thread Rick Faircloth

Terry, did you ever get a solution for your image resolution problem?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Boy I hope my post didn't cause him any issues, and I am serious about that.
If any of you know how to get face to face or at least a phone call, I sure
think it
Is him asking for help.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 





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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-05 Thread Rick Faircloth

But some compassion and empathy can usually go a lng way
in helping another weather a storm.  And while
a job (money) is often a major component of many of life's 
crisis moments, it almost never the only factor.

If this place is truly about "community", it has to go
beyond code at times...


-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


first of all, if he does kill himself, it's no ones fault on this or any
other list, don't go blaming yourself.

secondly, if he in fact is looking for attention, then he is sicker than I
thought to begin with.  because, michael, this attention you've gotten now
will certainly not help you get a job.

For his familys sake I hope he hasn't done that most stupid and selfish
thing, but if he has, there was no stopping him anyway.



Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.

On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Bryan Stevenson 
wrote:

> 
> Yes and I asked Mike D about thisno reply as of yet
> 
> On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 16:46 -0600, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
> 
>> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi
>> 
>> 
>> Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Bad timing. Shabot (not sure of the spelling) starts at sundown and I think
Michael is orthodox so I don't think He will answer till tomorrow evening.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

-mark


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Yes and I asked Mike D about thisno reply as of yet

On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 16:46 -0600, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi
> 
> 
> Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Weeg

first of all, if he does kill himself, it's no ones fault on this or any other 
list, don't go blaming yourself.

secondly, if he in fact is looking for attention, then he is sicker than I 
thought to begin with.  because, michael, this attention you've gotten now will 
certainly not help you get a job.

For his familys sake I hope he hasn't done that most stupid and selfish thing, 
but if he has, there was no stopping him anyway.



Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.

On Feb 4, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Bryan Stevenson  
wrote:

> 
> Yes and I asked Mike D about thisno reply as of yet
> 
> On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 16:46 -0600, Mark A. Kruger wrote:
> 
>> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
>> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
>> To: cf-talk
>> Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi
>> 
>> 
>> Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Yes and I asked Mike D about thisno reply as of yet

On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 16:46 -0600, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi
> 
> 
> Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Terry Troxel

Boy I hope my post didn't cause him any issues, and I am serious about that.
If any of you know how to get face to face or at least a phone call, I sure
think it
Is him asking for help.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


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Re: Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread jqdurham

Anybody know him personally to check?


On Feb 4, 2011 5:41pm, Tony Weeg  wrote:


> um. no question. we've literally watched his swan song in front of our  
> faces.



> Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.



> On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:46 PM, "Mark A. Kruger" mkru...@cfwebtools.com>  
> wrote:



> >

> > Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?

> >

> >

> > -Original Message-

> > From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net]

> > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM

> > To: cf-talk

> > Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi

> >

> >

> > Life aint worth living anymore. Peace out and goodbye everyone

> >

> >

> >

> >



> 

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Weeg

um. no question. we've literally watched his swan song in front of our faces.

Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.

On Feb 4, 2011, at 5:46 PM, "Mark A. Kruger"  wrote:

> 
> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi
> 
> 
> Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Dave Watts

> > Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?
>
> I don't know. I sent him a message off-list.

Aaaand, I meant to send that to YOU off-list, but apparently I haven't
mastered the use of email.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Dave Watts

> Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble?

I don't know. I sent him a message off-list.

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Anyone else think Mike might be in trouble? 


-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mftr...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Michael Firth

Life aint worth living anymore.  Peace out and goodbye everyone 

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-04 Thread Justin Hansen

Terry,

Actually, this is just a math problem. We've been printing full color images on 
digital presses for years using efflare to process uploaded images (JPG) to the 
optimal size/resolution/quality for our presses. However, if you are dealing 
with logos w/ text, EPS is the way to go and processing those with CF is not 
really an option. So... the solution is to make big images @ 72dpi and then 
compress them down to the size you want when you create your print file. Does 
that make sense?

For example: A 100px wide @ 300dpi image would actually be a 416px wide 72dpi 
image. It's the same thing. The only trick is making sure whatever tech you're 
using to make print files doesn't "optimize" the image for the web when 
generating the PDF or whatever...

Fun stuff... good times... good luck!
Justin


-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I agree I cannot find dpi either in CFIMAGE, but what about PIXEL SIZE, it
is listed in IMAGEINFO.
Is that related in any way?
I am going to dig into Adobe acrobat and all of the CFPDF tags as Ben Forta
suggested. From reading between the lines
In the replies I could be wrong but this just might be something we all
could benefit from as we all work mainly with
Screen, browser output and there is a whole world out there for print media
and 72 dpi doesn't cut it, and making
Online applications for print media is a real big challenge.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


Pretty sure that DPI is not an accessible via CFIMAGE.



From: "Claude Schnéegans" 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:22 PM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi

>>But all that still leaves us with the question
of how to create a downloadable image file with CF

You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution.







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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Terry Troxel

I agree I cannot find dpi either in CFIMAGE, but what about PIXEL SIZE, it
is listed in IMAGEINFO.
Is that related in any way?
I am going to dig into Adobe acrobat and all of the CFPDF tags as Ben Forta
suggested. From reading between the lines
In the replies I could be wrong but this just might be something we all
could benefit from as we all work mainly with
Screen, browser output and there is a whole world out there for print media
and 72 dpi doesn't cut it, and making
Online applications for print media is a real big challenge.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi


Pretty sure that DPI is not an accessible via CFIMAGE.



From: "Claude Schnéegans" 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:22 PM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi

>>But all that still leaves us with the question
of how to create a downloadable image file with CF

You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution.





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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Jason Fisher

Pretty sure that DPI is not an accessible via CFIMAGE.



From: "Claude Schnéegans" 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:22 PM
To: "cf-talk" 
Subject: Re: CFImage at 300dpi

>>But all that still leaves us with the question
of how to create a downloadable image file with CF

You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution.



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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>But all that still leaves us with the question
of how to create a downloadable image file with CF

You're right. If CFimage does not do it, I have no solution.

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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Rick Faircloth

But all that still leaves us with the question
of how to create a downloadable image file with CF 
that will carry 300dpi metadata with it to
a printer.  Of course, any end user can change
the dpi, ppi, inches, etc., but in Terry's
case, I suspect he wants to avoid that complication
and simply deliver a printable object to end users.


-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Dpi effectively changes the size an image will print at, relative to its
pixel density.

More accurately : dpi is a suggested default setting for the printer that
would eventually print the image so that the image will be printed at the
size specified in the file.
But first, ANY printer will know and be able to set itself its resolution in
order to print an image at a specified size.
Second, it is not the task of the image creator to decide a priori which
size the image should be printed. It is the user's choice.

There are actually 3 things embedded inside a jpeg image:
1. size in inches,
2. size in pixels,
3. pixels / inch
Every database manager will tell you that there is a data redundancy here
and when there is a data redundancy, there is a risk od some contradiction
somewhere.
If you need to specify the size the image should be printed, only the size
in pixels and the size in inches should be necessary.
I know this is a standard, but this standard has been designed by morons.





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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>Dpi effectively changes the size an image will print at, relative to its 
 >>pixel density.

More accurately : dpi is a suggested default setting for the printer that would 
eventually print the image so that the image will be printed at the size 
specified in the file.
But first, ANY printer will know and be able to set itself its resolution in 
order to print an image at a specified size.
Second, it is not the task of the image creator to decide a priori which size 
the image should be printed. It is the user's choice.

There are actually 3 things embedded inside a jpeg image:
1. size in inches,
2. size in pixels,
3. pixels / inch
Every database manager will tell you that there is a data redundancy here and 
when there is a data redundancy, there is a risk od some contradiction 
somewhere.
If you need to specify the size the image should be printed, only the size in 
pixels and the size in inches should be necessary.
I know this is a standard, but this standard has been designed by morons.



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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Jason Fisher

Some thoughts on dpi and what it means to screen vs paper.  Dpi effectively 
changes the size an image will print at, relative to its pixel density.


http://www.scantips.com/no72dpi.html






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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Rick Faircloth

Terry,

In case you do have to use the PDF format for initial
"image" creation, you might need to use a third-party
application and create a batch file to run it to process
your images.

I found a couple that might be used this way (haven't
tried these myself) at this URL:

http://en.kioskea.net/faq/187-converting-your-pdf-file-into-an-image

Let us know if you get something working.
I'd be interested in your solution!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:40 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Ben,
I think I have my work cut out for me today with your suggestion in mind.
Thank you very much. I started this out playing with CFPDF early on but
switched to CFImage.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to
populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem:
I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads
for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps.
A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor
Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing
Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with
CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create
the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image
pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print
ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their
printer's RIP.
That’s why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print
sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT.

Terry  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.











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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Rick Faircloth

Ben,

It's my understanding that while PDF's don't have a dpi,
the embedded images do. If that's true, what's the
default resolution for the images and how can that be
adjusted at runtime?

Also, I noticed on the CF Docs...

http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/help.html?content=Tags_p-q_0
2.html

...that there is an option (under the "Generate thumbnails..." section),
for setting resolution at "high" or "low".  Any idea what "high" and "low"
means in terms of dpi?

It seems that the entire image Terry is wanting to create could be saved
using the resolution setting if the resolution at "high" is sufficient
for printing at high quality.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:34 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to
populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem:
I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads
for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps.
A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor
Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing
Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with
CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create
the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image
pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print
ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their
printer's RIP.
That’s why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print
sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT.

Terry  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.









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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Terry Troxel

Ben,
I think I have my work cut out for me today with your suggestion in mind.
Thank you very much. I started this out playing with CFPDF early on but
switched to CFImage.

Terry

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to
populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem:
I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads
for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps.
A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor
Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing
Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with
CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create
the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image
pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print
ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their
printer's RIP.
That’s why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print
sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT.

Terry  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.









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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Ben Forta

Why not create a PDF form formatted exactly as you need, and then use CF to
populate the form fields? Seems like you'd get more control that way.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem:
I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads
for Doctors sold by Pharmaceutical Reps.
A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor
Client by selecting the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing
Image, add the Practice Information, License information, etc. And with
CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place the existing images, create
the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image
pre-sized at 300dpi at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print
ready High quality image that all the print shop has to do is send to their
printer's RIP.
That’s why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print
sizes as I do not want The user to have to do anything except PRINT.

Terry  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.







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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Terry Troxel

You are exactly right Rick. Here is my problem:
I am writing an online application for a local print shop that does RxPads
for Doctors sold by
Pharmaceutical Reps.
A Pharmaceutical rep will be able to logon to create an Rxpad for his Doctor
Client by selecting 
the Drug Bottle Image, Drug Logo Image, Drug Dosing Image, add the Practice
Information, License 
information, etc. And with CFImage, CFX_ImageCR, CF_Imageflare I will place
the existing images, 
create the textual data into text images and place them all on a blank Image
pre-sized at 300dpi 
at their respective x,y coordinates to create a print ready High quality
image that all the print 
shop has to do is send to their printer's RIP.
That’s why my question on creating, saving images at 300dpi as well as print
sizes as I do not want 
The user to have to do anything except PRINT.

Terry  

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.





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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Rick Faircloth

I checked out a conversation about this from 2009
and it was mentioned that the dpi was not inherent in
the image, but rather a function of an image's metadata.

That seems correct to me, but then the question would be,
"Can we manipulate an image's metadata with cfimage?"

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CFImage at 300dpi


I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.





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RE: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Rick Faircloth

I understand the concerns you have, Claude, but
I would imagine that the concern is over how to
have a "print-ready" image available online.

Yes, the end user can change the dpi before printing,
as well as the dimensions of the image, but, when dealing
with print shops for advertising, I've always had to send
"print-ready", 300dpi images (if using .jpg files) if I didn't
want the printer to make adjustments to the file to change
print dimensions or dpi.

It seems the same would be true if I were putting an image
formatted for "high-quality" printing (300dpi) online for
download and printing without making dimension or resolution adjustments.

I haven't put anything online before to meet this requirement,
but it seems as if delivering the file by email as an attachment
or delivering as a download would be the same.

Thoughts?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only
300 px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final
decision anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are
the inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality
if it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.



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Re: CFImage at 300dpi

2011-02-03 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>Is it possible using CFIMAGE to create images in 300dpi format for print
quality reasons?

If it is for print quality reason, you need only be concerned with the total 
number of pixels.
1. you may very well have an image defined at "300 dpi", but if it is only 300 
px wide, you will only get a one inch "good quality" printed image.
2. the resolution at which the user will print the image is his final decision 
anyway.
3. I know that the concept of so called "dots per inch" is embedded in image 
files, I don't know who the idea comes from, but it just does not make any 
sense : I agree that a virtual image does have dots, but where actually are the 
inches to make "dot/inch"?

I other words, you may have a "75 dpi" image printed at a very good quality if 
it is actually 4000 pix wide,
and a very poor "4000 dpi" printed image if it is only 75 pix wide.

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