Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Andrew, Great explanation! I couldn't have said it better myself. Rey Andrew Scott wrote: So the answer would be this, if you are after a very RIA experience and are not going to go the Flex way then my choice would be extJS 2.02 overall. If you are looking for minimal RIA as a way to enhance a website experience then jQuery/Spry/Mootools might be for you. So it would be best in my opinion to learn as many as you can. Fundamentally they all do the same thing in principle, and if you are good at JS then all are going to be easy to learn. Also if you haven't seen this website before, then I suggest you add this to your RSS feeds as it is a very valuable resource site. www.ajaxian.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301644 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
If accessibility is at all an issue for you, only two libraries implement the ARIA spec right now that I am aware of: Dojo and Google-axsjax are the only ones that I have been able to find. There used to be a plugin for Jquery (JARIA) and while I understand that the plugin will be incorporated into JQUERY at some point, it isn't yet (so far as I can determine). Sandra Clark = http://www.shayna.com Training and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question. Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301652 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
I'm surprised how little love the YUI project is getting. I've used it extensively for production sites and found it to be very good. The BSD license allows you to use it any way you like without worry. For the same reason I don't worry about a MS buyout, I believe the project will continue regardless. YUI also has documentation on using their libraries in an ARIA compliant fashion. http://search.yahoo.com/search?vs=developer.yahoo.comfr=ush-mywebva=aria On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If accessibility is at all an issue for you, only two libraries implement the ARIA spec right now that I am aware of: Dojo and Google-axsjax are the only ones that I have been able to find. There used to be a plugin for Jquery (JARIA) and while I understand that the plugin will be incorporated into JQUERY at some point, it isn't yet (so far as I can determine). Sandra Clark = http://www.shayna.com Training and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question. Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Also, Yahoo! uses the YUI libraries for their own sites. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Sonny Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised how little love the YUI project is getting. I've used it extensively for production sites and found it to be very good. The BSD license allows you to use it any way you like without worry. For the same reason I don't worry about a MS buyout, I believe the project will continue regardless. YUI also has documentation on using their libraries in an ARIA compliant fashion. http://search.yahoo.com/search?vs=developer.yahoo.comfr=ush-mywebva=aria On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If accessibility is at all an issue for you, only two libraries implement the ARIA spec right now that I am aware of: Dojo and Google-axsjax are the only ones that I have been able to find. There used to be a plugin for Jquery (JARIA) and while I understand that the plugin will be incorporated into JQUERY at some point, it isn't yet (so far as I can determine). Sandra Clark = http://www.shayna.com Training and Consulting in CSS and Accessibility Team Fusebox -Original Message- From: Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question. Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301657 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Look at the code. If you can read it easily and understand it, this is fine, because what ever you choose, soon or later, you will have to modify it, correct a bug, add some new feature, customize to fit your specs, anything. Some libraries are pure jewels on an academic point of view, work smoothly, apparently written by skilled programmers,... but are just not readable. Just my 0.02$ -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301662 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Is there any *WYSIWYG* editor for one of these? Or at least easier way to integrate them with current dw website? thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301668 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Is there any *WYSIWYG* editor for one of these? WYSIWYG? For Javascript code? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Sorry I meant GUI. Something like what spry extnesions do in DW. Do we have something like that for JQuery? Thanks Ali On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any *WYSIWYG* editor for one of these? WYSIWYG? For Javascript code? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Something like what spry extnesions do in DW. Personally I never understood the need for this: Just have your browser on the page you're editing, update the file, refresh the browser. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301687 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Sorry I meant GUI. Something like what spry extnesions do in DW. Do we have something like that for JQuery? Thanks Ali On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure exactly what you're looking for here - but I do know that most of your JS libraries have some form of an IDE to work with, mostly within Eclipse. Obviously Aptana has a JS editor that works with a majority of the JS libraries out there. The only problem with Aptana is some are out-of-date; i.e. the Ext library in Aptana is still on 1.1. However, you can read about some other options for Ext on Jack's blog at: http://jackslocum.com/blog/2008/02/07/ides-plugins-and-tools-for-extjs-20/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301689 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
I can't believe that no one has mentioned Prototype and scriptaculous yet - especially since they have the largest market share, and arguably the largest backing by communities such as the RoR community. These libraries are great, there are lots of documentation and tutorials for using them, and tons of additional projects and plugins that work with them. If you are just getting started in the world of JS - start with Prototype and Script.aculo.us - you'll love the power and syntactical sugar =) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301691 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
There *are* WYSIWYG but the are more of the Java based Enterprise variety suits like wavemaker http://www.wavemaker.com/products/ I have not seen any for the libraries you mentioned. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any *WYSIWYG* editor for one of these? WYSIWYG? For Javascript code? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Thanks. That's great. I will try them. Now I am working on SPRY which is Adobe's own library so I thought maybe has better support for CF8. But I will do my best tp learn more JS. Thanks for the reply. Ali On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Brian Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't believe that no one has mentioned Prototype and scriptaculous yet - especially since they have the largest market share, and arguably the largest backing by communities such as the RoR community. These libraries are great, there are lots of documentation and tutorials for using them, and tons of additional projects and plugins that work with them. If you are just getting started in the world of JS - start with Prototype and Script.aculo.us http://script.aculo.us/ - you'll love the power and syntactical sugar =) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301695 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
The only problem with Aptana is some are out-of-date; Yeah, that is a pain. But at the same time these Libraries are maturing rapidly. According to their message center thingy, they are going to updating the libraries with the next release cycle. The Aptana Studio release should contain updates for many of the bundled Ajax Library frameworks, including support for EXT 2.0.2., Yahoo UI 2.5, Adobe Spry 1.6, On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Brian Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I meant GUI. Something like what spry extnesions do in DW. Do we have something like that for JQuery? Thanks Ali On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure exactly what you're looking for here - but I do know that most of your JS libraries have some form of an IDE to work with, mostly within Eclipse. Obviously Aptana has a JS editor that works with a majority of the JS libraries out there. The only problem with Aptana is some are out-of-date; i.e. the Ext library in Aptana is still on 1.1. However, you can read about some other options for Ext on Jack's blog at: http://jackslocum.com/blog/2008/02/07/ides-plugins-and-tools-for-extjs-20/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301696 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
It seems that the only one is *Nitobi Complete UI *for DW/CF. I didn't test it but it is pricy! thanks Ali On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There *are* WYSIWYG but the are more of the Java based Enterprise variety suits like wavemaker http://www.wavemaker.com/products/ I have not seen any for the libraries you mentioned. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any *WYSIWYG* editor for one of these? WYSIWYG? For Javascript code? -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301620 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
I recommend Ext, and would suggest avoiding yahoo's. I havent used that many, but the Ext lib seems complete and configurable. Yahoos has a few bugs and is much harder to customise beyond what they have. Thats not to say you cant, but you will need to dig deep into their scripts for changes. I have had to fix several bugs with their calendar and slider to use them. I think the calendar was beta anyway, though. I am in the middle of implimenting ext in a large project (or atleast overseeing the implementation of) and so far its all good. But it was their js desktop demo that won me over. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301622 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
CF is a server-side language, while JavaScript is a client-side language. As long as you have a data interchange format (JSON, XML, etc.) that both support, you're golden. Some toolkits, like GWT or DWR (not on your list), are centered around a more unified server/client side application and force your hand on both sides of the interchange, but in general, the two halves are pretty distinct from each other. Short answer: pick whatever you want - using CF on the server side is nearly irrelevant. cheers, barneyb On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301623 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
You really are going to open a can of worms here, but I think it is what fits your needs. Each of the frameworks have their own pros/cons to what you wish to achieve, and that is going to be the best question to ask yourself first. I have done some serious extJS, Dojo work and both have been very easy to learn and pickup. But they are not the frameworks I would use if you were not going to develop a heavy UI site/application. jQuery gains a lot of ground for its simpleness, as does mootools. Spry I here good things about, but have never used it myself. So the answer would be this, if you are after a very RIA experience and are not going to go the Flex way then my choice would be extJS 2.02 overall. If you are looking for minimal RIA as a way to enhance a website experience then jQuery/Spry/Mootools might be for you. So it would be best in my opinion to learn as many as you can. Fundamentally they all do the same thing in principle, and if you are good at JS then all are going to be easy to learn. Also if you haven't seen this website before, then I suggest you add this to your RSS feeds as it is a very valuable resource site. www.ajaxian.com Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 March 2008 1:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question. Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301624 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
It depends on what your goals are and what your programming background is, since each library is targeted at a different audience and does different things. If you just want to pick one to get started, I would recommend jQuery since it is light weight, easy to use, has lots of plug-ins, is actively supported, and it very popular. Spry, Ext, Yahoo, and script.aculo.us are also popular in the ColdFusion world. Of those I would be hesitant to use Yahoo, since the controls have a reputation for being slow and there is a good chance that the people that support that library will be axed when Microsoft completes the takeover. If you program Web applications more than Web sites, you might want to take a look at Adobe Flex, since it is more powerful than any Ajax library. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I decided to use a JS library/framework to enhance the UI of my sites. I googled a lot and found out that there are many of them. I make a short list here:(thanks to google and wikipedia) Google Web Toolkit, AJILE, Backbase, CssQuery, Dojo, Toolkit, mootools, Ext, JQuery, MochiKit, Moo.fx, OpenLink AJAX Toolkit, Prototype, Qooxdoo, Rialto Toolkit, Rico, script.aculo.us, SmilScript, Spry framework, Yahoo! UI Library These where what I found. I believe there are some more out there that I couldn't find. My question is: Which one will help me as a beginner in using such libraries/frameworks plus has a future plus has good compatibility with Coldfusion. I know that CF8 has some EXT 1.0 integrations and YUI and I heard a lot about Jquery. But I really appreciate it if you write you opinions about each of the libraies I listed. What I really need is a simple, light and powerful one that gives me better client-side effects and form options(for example validation). Thanks Ali ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301625 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: many JS libraries are out there, which one for CF8 is the question.
+1 to Andrew Scott. Very good summary. Basically, if you are planning to build a whole RIA based on ajax ui and functionality - and Flex is not your cup of tea - go for ExtJS. If you are just looking to add some nice 'ajaxy' features to oyur site - i.e. unobtrusive js popups, content replacement without page refresh, slideshows, etc - then I suggest you look for those specific features you want in several js frameworks and their plugins and decide which one has the best look and functionality for you and go for that one. I personally favour jQuery, mostly for its simplicity. There is nothing wrong with mixing a few frameworks on the same site for different tasks/functionality - it is just may be a bit harder to maintain later... my 0.02c... hth Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Andrew Scott wrote: You really are going to open a can of worms here, but I think it is what fits your needs. Each of the frameworks have their own pros/cons to what you wish to achieve, and that is going to be the best question to ask yourself first. I have done some serious extJS, Dojo work and both have been very easy to learn and pickup. But they are not the frameworks I would use if you were not going to develop a heavy UI site/application. jQuery gains a lot of ground for its simpleness, as does mootools. Spry I here good things about, but have never used it myself. So the answer would be this, if you are after a very RIA experience and are not going to go the Flex way then my choice would be extJS 2.02 overall. If you are looking for minimal RIA as a way to enhance a website experience then jQuery/Spry/Mootools might be for you. So it would be best in my opinion to learn as many as you can. Fundamentally they all do the same thing in principle, and if you are good at JS then all are going to be easy to learn. Also if you haven't seen this website before, then I suggest you add this to your RSS feeds as it is a very valuable resource site. www.ajaxian.com Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:�+613 �9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:301627 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
