[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content, what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording "off-line", using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you "don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content", what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Without this turning into another rampant Microsoft vs Adobe topic. I like Microsoft and like their product, but I don't think holding it at Microsoft is appropriate. There is no good reason I can think of that Microsoft would allow this except for the obvious. Try contacting Adobe and see if they have an office you could use. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 8:37 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content, what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
I was more curious that Microsoft would be willing? But I'm curious, why do you think holding it at Microsoft would be a bad idea? How many people on this list use Microsoft SQL Server? How many people on this list use Windows XP ? Microsoft going after the similar markets as Adobe is a bit of a worry, but maybe having it at Microsoft would expose more Microsoft people to the wonders of Adobe? Provided there are no strings attached, its just another venue. Not saying QLD CFUG will ever be held at Microsoft, but who knows? Anyway, I think the current location is great. Cheers Gareth. Dale Fraser wrote: Without this turning into another rampant Microsoft vs Adobe topic. I like Microsoft and like their product, but I dont think holding it at Microsoft is appropriate. There is no good reason I can think of that Microsoft would allow this except for the obvious. Try contacting Adobe and see if they have an office you could use. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 8:37 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording "off-line", using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you "don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content", what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Odd's are someone microsoft employee would ask what features are in the next cf? answer: nothing we aren't allowed to talk about it thats the major issue I have with adobe, they should let us know months in advance what features there products will have, then we can make plans months in advance --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
What strings are you expecting them to attach? Of course Microsoft have an Agenda. But why do we care? We all know that Microsoft want to schmooze developers to maintain their market share - but really, why do we care? Schmooze me! Give me some swag, broadband and beer. Its not going to change my professional assessment of their products. That's going to continue to be based on an active assessment of their products, not the marketing crap. But I'm still perfectly happy to take their freebies as offered. I don't really expect the M$ Gestappo to show up and brand us as Adobe fans and ship us off to ghetto's for .Net lessons. And if they start pressuring presenters over content? We'll move the UG somewhere else. On 3/13/07, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content, what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- Cheers Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Flex Question:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex Question:
Sorry button got clicked!! Stoopid computer...let me try that script
again...
private function CostCal():void{
var a:int = Number(form1.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var b:int = Number(form2.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var c:int = Number(form3.text.replace(/,/g,''));
//Calculation
var i:int = Number(a*(b+c));
var h:int = Number(365);
var g:int = Number(i/h);
form4.text = NumberFormatter.format(g);
}
So what this is basically doing is adding the fields then displaying
in another field. I have used int/number just to make sure its a
numeric value. It doesn't make a difference if I change that. Also I
got it so it adds but when I try to divide or anything else it freaks!
i.e. no calculation.
IS there anywhere that someone can point me to doing calculations in
actionscript...cause what I have found on the internet is limited. I
might have to bail on flex and go back to javascript and HTML...
Any advise would be good.
Thanks.
Jeremy
On Mar 13, 9:42 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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[cfaussie] Re: Flex Question:
Nevermind I got it.
Stoopid CACHE!!!
On Mar 13, 9:49 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry button got clicked!! Stoopid computer...let me try that script
again...
private function CostCal():void{
var a:int = Number(form1.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var b:int = Number(form2.text.replace(/,/g,''));
var c:int = Number(form3.text.replace(/,/g,''));
//Calculation
var i:int = Number(a*(b+c));
var h:int = Number(365);
var g:int = Number(i/h);
form4.text = NumberFormatter.format(g);
}
So what this is basically doing is adding the fields then displaying
in another field. I have used int/number just to make sure its a
numeric value. It doesn't make a difference if I change that. Also I
got it so it adds but when I try to divide or anything else it freaks!
i.e. no calculation.
IS there anywhere that someone can point me to doing calculations in
actionscript...cause what I have found on the internet is limited. I
might have to bail on flex and go back to javascript and HTML...
Any advise would be good.
Thanks.
Jeremy
On Mar 13, 9:42 am, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
I don't have access from work to Yahoo Groups but I do have access to
cfaussie. go figure.
Never the less I'm struggling with Flex and all its pain. So if anyone
out there knows flex and this question I would be much appreciated.
I'm trying to do a simple calculation. So when you put a value in one
field it will calculate in another...and so on. Below is the
actionscript.
private function CostCalc():void{
}- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
We care because of the agenda. If Microsoft want to just help CF community with the agenda to just push SQL and other complimentary products to CF then that would be fine. If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. .NET has some compelling arguments, if half the CF community move to it as a result of MS push then we care Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:27 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. What strings are you expecting them to attach? Of course Microsoft have an Agenda. But why do we care? We all know that Microsoft want to schmooze developers to maintain their market share - but really, why do we care? Schmooze me! Give me some swag, broadband and beer. Its not going to change my professional assessment of their products. That's going to continue to be based on an active assessment of their products, not the marketing crap. But I'm still perfectly happy to take their freebies as offered. I don't really expect the M$ Gestappo to show up and brand us as Adobe fans and ship us off to ghetto's for .Net lessons. And if they start pressuring presenters over content? We'll move the UG somewhere else. On 3/13/07, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content, what do you mean? Do you really mean something about the content? Or the typical presenter's setup? Or the environment? I mean, if you've got a laptop with a mic, and an internet connection, that's all you need. You start the meeting in Connect, and hit record. You don't need to bother with letting others join in, if that's a concern. And you DEFINITELY don't need to worry about a camera for video. All people care about is the presenter's screen and voice. Not trying to be pushy, but that just sounds like a great session, so it would be wonderful to see it recorded. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Doubt it Charlie. We have used Connect in the past to do an online user group presentation. I don't think it is really practical to record our user group meeting's content. Cheers Gareth. Charlie Arehart wrote: Hey, Barry, will you be recording this using the free Acrobat Connect account that Adobe permits user groups to use? If you guys need any help being able to that, just let me know. This sounds like a very compelling presentation. :-) /Charlie -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Wait... They might tell us something we want to hear? They might provide us with useful information? That's not a compelling argument for me to stay away from them. I'm not an Adobe employee or shareholder. I have no commitment to their brand beyond what the strength of their product dictates. I'm on the list and interested in the UG's because hey - I think the product is pretty strong. But I'm certainly not going to put my fingers in my ears and avoid other ideas because they might be compelling. End of the day - I'm going to use the best tool for my requirements and project constraints. 90% of the time for me thats Cold Fusion, in combination with Microsoft Databases or Microsoft Servers, to deliver services to users on Microsoft workstations using Microsoft Browsers. I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of things Microsoft could say to me that would be useful and interesting - that wouldn't require any significant changes in my platform. But if they did have something to say that persuaded half the CF community to shift to .net? That would be a big screaming sign to me that I should go look at this .Net crap a bit more closely. Because nothing I've seen about the platform should be that persuasive. And if they have that kind of persuasion available - where we hold the UG won't matter a bit. On 3/13/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We care because of the agenda. If Microsoft want to just help CF community with the agenda to just push SQL and other complimentary products to CF then that would be fine. If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. .NET has some compelling arguments, if half the CF community move to it as a result of MS push then we care Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Bucklar Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:27 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. What strings are you expecting them to attach? Of course Microsoft have an Agenda. But why do we care? We all know that Microsoft want to schmooze developers to maintain their market share - but really, why do we care? Schmooze me! Give me some swag, broadband and beer. Its not going to change my professional assessment of their products. That's going to continue to be based on an active assessment of their products, not the marketing crap. But I'm still perfectly happy to take their freebies as offered. I don't really expect the M$ Gestappo to show up and brand us as Adobe fans and ship us off to ghetto's for .Net lessons. And if they start pressuring presenters over content? We'll move the UG somewhere else. On 3/13/07, Gareth Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft would commit to holding an Adobe user group at one of there offices? with no strings attached? Brisbane HQ? Is that in the City? Cheers Gareth. Scott Barnes wrote: Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. We did discuss options for recording off-line, using tools such as Camtasia, CamStudio, and so on. He will consider those, but then you're talking about installing s/w on the presenter's laptops, and they have to have time to become familiar to do the recording, plus they would be big (though both the above can compress to SWF when done). Then you have to find a place to host the recordings, and I recommended Google video, which has no time limit like youtube and aol video. We shall see if they can do it. I'll understand if they can't. I'll be writing all this up in a blog entry to offer the suggestions to other CFUG organizers. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:18 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Yeah record it damnz it ... I could offer up office live recordings lol... Barry: You've got the mics, I can go out tommorow and grab a decent web cam? On 3/10/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to give up too easily. :-) When you say you don't think it is really practical
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
*LOL*, That's how Microsoft spend the outrages prices on Vista, outside of the USA:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Monday, 12 March 2007 9:36 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. Well... these meetings could be hosted inside Microsoft's swisho theatres at brisbane hq - broadband, pizza and beer :) I will buy your love hows that :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: RIA Conference announcement , Queenstown NZ
Aw sweet I'm booked for a snow holiday in Qtown during this... I'll be there! On 12/03/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Just to let you all know Straker are running a conference Web on the Piste, which will based on Rich Internet technologies at Queenstown in late August (incidentally the best week for lots of snow on the slopes) for anyone interested. The idea is that it is 6 months between WebDU's and will catch newly released products such as Apollo and CF8 (thinking they might be released by then) and give everyone a chance to network in an awesome location. The aim is to cover Flex, Apollo, AJAX, SPRY and all the various back end systems including CF, .Net, PHP etc. The conference is for designers, developers and anyone looking at utilizing RI technologies in their applications, it has an Adobe base but we will try and cover a wide range of RI and back end solutions. We are bringing down a few guests from the US who have been very active in implementing RI solutions so we can learn from them as well as a number of well known regional speakers. Sessions will be a couple of hours long and attendees will need to bring a laptop to a lot of the sessions as they will be interactive learning sessions so that you can interact and learn from the presenters. It's currently a 2 day conf but may push out to 3 if people are interested in more sessions. The schedule and topics are still in development but should be finalised in the next month or two. If anyone is interested in being a speaker or a sponsor then let me know. Here's the URL www.webonthepiste.com Cheers Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
On 3/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry and I discussed it off-list. They have a common problem, working in a place where they don't have wireless access, and while there's a computer in the room which does have net access, it belongs to the facility and they don't want any software installed, so the presenters instead just plug their laptops into the projector. All that makes recording using tools like Breeze/Connect/LiveMeeting impossible. What's wrong with plugging the internet cable into the presenters laptop? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group m: 0415 469 095 www.flashdev.org.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. Hold on - Adobe don't run the user groups so they are not really in any position to allow or disallow anything. Gruden is an Abobe partner, but I still think that Scott's suggestion *in this case* has merit and should be appreciated. If MS turned this CFUG meeting into a MSathon then I don't think anyone would go back. But if they just provide the facilities - good for them. If they get some good will out of it - so what. In Sydney Red Square, one of our competitors, used to provide the venue for the CFUG - I had nothing but respect for them doing this. Daemon, another competitor ran CFAussie and a number of other lists for years. I imagine they were doing this stuff for two reasons - to promote their businesses and to help foster the community. Good for them - I respect their motives and which that I had more time and energy to do similar. At the end of the day the community won - and that's a good thing. As for the argument that MS might learn something at the meeting and get some unfair commercial advantage - it's a public meeting. Anyone can go no matter where it is held. Despite Barry's gushing words at the start of this thread you're not about to hear Adobe's deepest darkest secrets at this meeting. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Mark Stanton wrote: *snip* If MS turned this CFUG meeting into a MSathon then I don't think anyone would go back. *snip* And we could start a riot! -- Haikal Saadh Applications Programmer ICT Resources, TALSS QUT Kelvin Grove --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
I actually think that it is a reasonably brave move on the part MS. By trying to engage the Adobe community they are showing it a lot of respect (normally when you're ignored it caus nobody cares 'bout ya) which is not something we have seen in the past. Outside of some initial reservations about the gray line around when something becomes a sales pitch or not and the forum for presenting them, I do see some benefits from the MS interactions. For me it means when some people (IT people who argue that its not MS so we wont use it) ask about CF or Flex or Adobe we can at least point them to the fact that MS believe the technology to be really good and have a lot of synergy with .Net etc., so much so they even hold the usergroups meetings might have some value. We hold the NZ usergroup meetings in our offices and if we tried to push our products on anyone attending we wouldn't get too many the next time and I'm sure MS recognise this and would act accordingly. GS On Mar 13, 4:28 pm, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the agenda is to push competing products then I think it's not appropriate and Adobe would be silly to allow this. Hold on - Adobe don't run the user groups so they are not really in any position to allow or disallow anything. Gruden is an Abobe partner, but I still think that Scott's suggestion *in this case* has merit and should be appreciated. If MS turned this CFUG meeting into a MSathon then I don't think anyone would go back. But if they just provide the facilities - good for them. If they get some good will out of it - so what. In Sydney Red Square, one of our competitors, used to provide the venue for the CFUG - I had nothing but respect for them doing this. Daemon, another competitor ran CFAussie and a number of other lists for years. I imagine they were doing this stuff for two reasons - to promote their businesses and to help foster the community. Good for them - I respect their motives and which that I had more time and energy to do similar. At the end of the day the community won - and that's a good thing. As for the argument that MS might learn something at the meeting and get some unfair commercial advantage - it's a public meeting. Anyone can go no matter where it is held. Despite Barry's gushing words at the start of this thread you're not about to hear Adobe's deepest darkest secrets at this meeting. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltdhttp://www.gruden.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
Agreed There is a lot one can learn with the interaction between different applications, and although I can't say too much. I am developing an application now that is written in .Net, but will be leveraged from Coldfusion there is about 40% coldfusion code compared to 60% .Net code, but will make some work easier in the near future when it comes to reports. And with the advent of WPF, there can be some more leverage made there too. Make a sales pitch at me, and you'll have an enemy for life. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Straker Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 2:52 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement. I actually think that it is a reasonably brave move on the part MS. By trying to engage the Adobe community they are showing it a lot of respect (normally when you're ignored it caus nobody cares 'bout ya) which is not something we have seen in the past. Outside of some initial reservations about the gray line around when something becomes a sales pitch or not and the forum for presenting them, I do see some benefits from the MS interactions. For me it means when some people (IT people who argue that its not MS so we wont use it) ask about CF or Flex or Adobe we can at least point them to the fact that MS believe the technology to be really good and have a lot of synergy with .Net etc., so much so they even hold the usergroups meetings might have some value. We hold the NZ usergroup meetings in our offices and if we tried to push our products on anyone attending we wouldn't get too many the next time and I'm sure MS recognise this and would act accordingly. GS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] OT: site downloading
Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: QLD CFUG March meeting announcement.
WOAH! I really gotta stop this whole thread now and clarify some points. firstly, we (the QLD CFUG) are guests at the venue so we respect the fact we're there on their blessing. They are a business that we dare not interfere with. If down the track we can organise a Breezo out of there (recorded or otherwise), great, but the CFUG has officially only had 2 meetings there before so it's still early days to push the envelope, and as it is we've got swapping of laptops etc so it'll always be a bit rock'n'roll to pull off. secondly, we appreciate the efforts of the people who turn up in person and our efforts will always put them first, over any potential nebulous virtual attendees or future viewers. We've run virtual meetings before (thanx again, Mark Mandel and others) but bums on seats shows a commitment we need to support. lastly, the reason the user groups are there is a conscious decision that has nothing to do with branding, Microsoft, Adobe or otherwise. Three user groups use this private multimedia training organisation to host the meetings: QMUG with Richard Turner-Jones CFUG and the new FlashPlatform U.G Out of the people involved with the groups now, it was Richard that started using this venue first and he and I both used to teach there for a number of years a while back. Ever since we've kept in contact with kind and committed people working there (G'day Sarah, Bryn) because we all share a common goal - education. Use the knowledge and pass it on. this is directly related to a long-winded and controversial CFJOBS thread that Darren Tracey (QLD.CFUG manager) started a while ago about training and where the next lot of CF people are coming from (anyone remember the thread? it was a bit of an epic with many joining in with 2c worth). Just as this years CFUG members will be next years managers or Application Architects or consultants, so this years students will be next years junior developers. Without forcing anything down anyone's throat, this is a conscious effort to be available to students if they're interested. We *could* continue the idea and hold the meetings at the university I work for but to be honest, where they're held at present is logistically superior and the dedicated souls on the inside make our job of putting on the meetings a lot easier. I won't be presumptuous and speak for Richard but as a former teacher I feel heartened when students join in and participate, because the next step is ownership and a changing of the guard. That which is unyielding is easily broken. So, hang me from the highest yard-arm if you must, for lining up the ducks to make this happen. I'm not thinking of today with allegiances and branding and marketing. I'm thinking of tomorrow and having something worth passing on - we (the old guard) won't be there forever. over and out barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
FTP? Do you own the sites? On 13/03/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
Probably by far BlackWidow is the best I have used.. http://www.softbytelabs.com/us/bw/index.html :) On 3/13/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant -- Postal: Po Box 3462 Dural, NSW 2158 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: skype:carlos-amigos?call --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
I guess you could always try the Save Offline option in IE. I think that will pull it all down. Just not sure where it saves it. _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Vanderpal Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 5:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading Probably by far BlackWidow is the best I have used.. http://www.softbytelabs.com/us/bw/index.html :) On 3/13/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant -- Postal: Po Box 3462 Dural, NSW 2158 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: skype:carlos-amigos?call --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading
I'd recommend offline explorer enterprise by metaproducts. On 3/13/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you could always try the Save Offline option in IE. I think that will pull it all down. Just not sure where it saves it. From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Vanderpal Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 5:27 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: site downloading Probably by far BlackWidow is the best I have used.. http://www.softbytelabs.com/us/bw/index.html :) On 3/13/07, grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All What tools are you guys using recommend for downloading entire sites from the web? The IE and FF 'save as...' just isn't cutting it. TIA Grant -- Postal: Po Box 3462 Dural, NSW 2158 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: skype:carlos-amigos?call --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
